>i knew there was a reason i appreciated ur presence in here


Anyway, if you look in the Archives, I'm pretty sure I've talked about this kind of thing before....

Hold on, I'll look myself...


Ah, here we are: http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=17&topic_id=1&mesg_id=1&listing_type=search

and for bonus:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=17&topic_id=1745&mesg_id=1745&listing_type=search

there's a few other interesting discussions we've had on these issues in the past but I gotta try to remember which posts they were in...