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13069946, So we not talking about the whole Fallon/Trump thing?
Posted by SeV, Fri Sep-16-16 04:39 AM
Or is the mods deleting shyt?

Yea uhh

I'm not going to shyt on Questlove

Cause I get it

It's his job

Most of us have had to put up with bullshyt on the job to keep that check coming in

But I will shyt on Fallon for putting The Roots in that position

Ish was bad optics all together

Black band having to smile and play their music for Trump

It almost was like Fallon was stunting to white America on some look at how trained I got my Blacks

I'll be honest i ain't watch the whole interview

I ain't want to see my nyggas like that

But I ain't trippin

Everybody got a price










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13069947, RE: So we not talking about the whole Fallon/Trump thing?
Posted by RobOne4, Fri Sep-16-16 04:47 AM
like okay when you were doing the Late Show you had to put take whatever guests NBC wanted you to book. But now you are running The Tonight Show. Stop booking these vile ass politicians and letting them show their "human" side on your show. Fucking hee heeing with Ted Christie, Jeb Bush, and Donald Trump. Shit he marched that whole Republican ticket on stage . Even fucking Hillary. FUCK ALL OF THEM. He does this shit all the time. Once Trump started spewing his hate speech he could have done like Letterman and said fuck him he aint coming on my show. But nope he probably thinks its fine because they dont talk politics.
13069982, Ted Christie?
Posted by exactopposite, Fri Sep-16-16 08:38 AM
13070239, chris
Posted by RobOne4, Fri Sep-16-16 12:17 PM
i typed that late as hell
13069994, Yea I'm on some fuck Fallon shyt now
Posted by SeV, Fri Sep-16-16 08:47 AM
All his supporters r on twitter on some 'look how funny and relatable he is! Libtards scared!'

Dude can't be that out of touch

I don't mind him having other politicians u mentioned on

Their supporters aren't white supremist



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13069949, roots mighta shoulda took a knee on that one.
Posted by Kwesi, Fri Sep-16-16 05:39 AM
13069997, LOL!
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-16-16 08:50 AM
Would have been tight if they played the Empire theme from Star Wars
13069955, hmm... ionno, seems like these tyors of shows have both politicans on
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 07:09 AM
and its a job so they have to roll with it.

Does Fallen really have the pull at NBC to deny Trump or Hillary?

i doubt it.
13069995, types*
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 08:47 AM
13070015, This that bullshit. They are not the same. One is openly racist
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-16-16 09:15 AM
and has facist tendencies.

I never complained about McCain, Romney or even Palin appearing on these shows, but this dude is beyond the pale. not in the same ball park.

That black people don't see this is scary.





>and its a job so they have to roll with it.
>
>Does Fallen really have the pull at NBC to deny Trump or
>Hillary?
>
>i doubt it.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13070022, RE: This that bullshit. They are not the same. One is openly racist
Posted by murph71, Fri Sep-16-16 09:28 AM
>and has facist tendencies.
>
>I never complained about McCain, Romney or even Palin
>appearing on these shows, but this dude is beyond the pale.
>not in the same ball park.
>
>That black people don't see this is scary.

Indeed....
13070024, Doesn't matter.. he is the GOP nominee
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 09:29 AM
it has nothing to do with what we know and understand about his racist views.

He is still going to get TV time and rightfully so...

you can't stop a candidate from doing the TV rounds because they say dumb racist shit if they win the GOP nomination
13070035, RE: Doesn't matter.. he is the GOP nominee
Posted by murph71, Fri Sep-16-16 09:38 AM
>it has nothing to do with what we know and understand about
>his racist views.
>
>He is still going to get TV time and rightfully so...
>
>you can't stop a candidate from doing the TV rounds because
>they say dumb racist shit if they win the GOP nomination


Trump can say whatever he wants...And he deserves whatever platform he is given as the GOP nominee...

That doesn't mean he should be treated like a regular "politician 101" candidate. Because he's not.....

Fallon should stick with the light shit and let Kimmel or Colbert handle such an interview if he's just going to kiss Trump's ass....
13070051, or not. Maybe Fallon is a fan?
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 09:52 AM
13070088, RE: or not. Maybe Fallon is a fan?
Posted by murph71, Fri Sep-16-16 10:21 AM


Nah...Fallon is Fallon.....

13070020, RE: hmm... ionno, seems like these tyors of shows have both politicans on
Posted by murph71, Fri Sep-16-16 09:27 AM


Trump asked the first black President to show him his papers....He's not in the same realm as other politicians....

And that's the problem we have at the moment. Trump is being made to look 'NORMAL"....PAR-FOR-THE-COURSE....

He's none of those things....He's dangerous as hell....
13070027, and? wtf does that have to do with him going on NBC?
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 09:30 AM
13070040, RE: and? wtf does that have to do with him going on NBC?
Posted by murph71, Fri Sep-16-16 09:40 AM

As I stated, I have no issue with him going on the Tonight Show. As the GOP candidate he should get that platform if his opponent is also getting the same look...

My beef is with any media host conducting ANY interview with Trump as if he's normal.....

Letterman wouldn't have done that...Kimmel wouldn't have done that....Add Ellen, Colbert, and Conan to that list...

Jimmy Fallon is going to Jimmy Fallon, though....
13070057, lmao.. so you are mad Fallon didn't act like Ellen
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 09:56 AM
or Lettreman?

I mean...

different shows

different hosts

different interview styles

shrugs.

13070096, RE: lmao.. so you are mad Fallon didn't act like Ellen
Posted by murph71, Fri Sep-16-16 10:30 AM


Nah...I'm frightened that Fallon conducted an interview without at least pointing out the absurdity of dude running for President....Or the crazy, racist shit he continues to trot out...

Ellen comes from the same EVERYBODY-LOVE-EVERYBODY bag as Fallon...That same sweet goofiness....She wouldn't have skipped over any of that shit just to rub his hair...

There's a way to get at a Trump without being an asshole...

But I guess I'm asking too much from Fallon....
13070122, so you are mad Fallon acted like Fallon?
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 10:56 AM
13070029, thats the thing...FDT is an easy story for the lazy media
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Sep-16-16 09:32 AM
can you imagine the digging they would have to be doin if kasich was the candidate...the race seem to be tightening just bcz of the mdia..this shit should be a blowout....i still think it will be tho


>
>
>Trump asked the first black President to show him his
>papers....He's not in the same realm as other politicians....
>
>And that's the problem we have at the moment. Trump is being
>made to look 'NORMAL"....PAR-FOR-THE-COURSE....
>
>He's none of those things....He's dangerous as hell....
13070042, RE: thats the thing...FDT is an easy story for the lazy media
Posted by murph71, Fri Sep-16-16 09:43 AM
>can you imagine the digging they would have to be doin if
>kasich was the candidate...the race seem to be tightening just
>bcz of the mdia..this shit should be a blowout....i still
>think it will be tho


That's the only reason it is tightening....lol

They r making Trump into the new normal....Shit is scary....
13069992, damn
Posted by kingjerm78, Fri Sep-16-16 08:46 AM
13070002, regarding the Roots' role
Posted by Numba_33, Fri Sep-16-16 08:59 AM
that whole Michelle Bachmann scenario with The Roots trying to be subversive with her puts a whole other dynamic into play. I sure they had to walk that tight rope in terms of just playing their role to earn their paychecks.
13070017, Just doing my job is the poor excuse used to excused a lot of bad shit.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-16-16 09:17 AM
Would they back David Duke? Is it much different to back David Dukes candidate?

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13070092, What should The Roots have done in your opinion?
Posted by Numba_33, Fri Sep-16-16 10:27 AM
13070019, tight rope? Their job is to play music
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 09:23 AM
and Fallon is a TV host. Not sure what his opinion is on politics but his job is to host guest and ask questions.

I could see if he was on some left wing hardcore show steez but I really don't understand the anger over this.

They all work for NBC.
13070025, And stepin fetchit's job was to step and fetch it.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-16-16 09:29 AM

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13070030, and Kunti got his foot cut off and said his name was Toby
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 09:33 AM


what the fuck is your point?
13070547, my job is to sell cancer drugs but i have a MORAL OBLIGATION
Posted by deejboram, Sat Sep-17-16 06:39 AM
to not do shit that will intentionally or unintentionally not have the patient's best interest at heart

i can't sit back and allow a drug company run the cost of a drug up "just because" or "only charge blacks more than other groups"

MORALS

they could have taken a Kaepernick Knee
13070098, I made that point
Posted by Numba_33, Fri Sep-16-16 10:31 AM
because if The Roots were bold enough to do what they did against Michelle Bachmann, who is a lot tamer than Donald Trump in terms of outlandish comments in my opinion, I have to imagine The Roots performed their roles in regarding to Donald Trump with gritted teeth.
13070016, I'm sure they have plenty of experience with deplorable people
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-16-16 09:17 AM
The music industry is pretty much run by them
13070021, The law says NBC (and all networks regulated by FCC) has to give the candidates equal time.
Posted by SoWhat, Fri Sep-16-16 09:27 AM
So if Hillary is on Tonight then Trump has to be on. Ditto SNL and all other NBC shows. That's why you see Trump on these shows not necessarily bc the hosts or producers want him.
13070032, RE: The law says NBC (and all networks regulated by FCC) has to give the candidates equal time.
Posted by murph71, Fri Sep-16-16 09:33 AM
>So if Hillary is on Tonight then Trump has to be on. Ditto
>SNL and all other NBC shows. That's why you see Trump on these
>shows not necessarily bc the hosts or producers want him.


This^^^^is all true....

My beef is not with having a Presidential candidate on the Tonight Show.....It's allowing an open racist, misogynistic, con man to come on such a platform and be treated like he's a normal politician...

I would have loved to have seen Jimmy Kimmel instead of Fallon do that interview with Trump....He would have exposed his blatant bullshit with sly, side-eye humor...

Shit, Letterman would have lit that ass up....
13070037, That's not Fallon's style. He is safe
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Fri Sep-16-16 09:39 AM
It's all fake laughs and goofiness on his show.
It'd be so weird to see Fallon throwing snark darts at a guest.

>
>
>My beef is not with having a Presidential candidate on the
>Tonight Show.....It's allowing an open racist, misogynistic,
>con man to come on such a platform and be treated like he's a
>normal politician...
>
>I would have loved to have seen Jimmy Kimmel instead of Fallon
>do that interview with Trump....He would have exposed his
>blatant bullshit with sly, side-eye humor...
>
>Shit, Letterman would have lit that ass up....
13070043, RE: That's not Fallon's style. He is safe
Posted by murph71, Fri Sep-16-16 09:46 AM


U can't afford to be safe around a candidate like Trump....

Dude is that much of a danger.....

I dig Fallon....That, however, was a major fuck up.....

Ellen is just as fucking sweet as Fallon....But do you actually think she would have allowed Trump to come on her show like he's an every day politician just trying to get votes? lol...Hell naw....
13070060, As sweet as Ellen is, she is 10 times more aggressive than Fallon
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Fri Sep-16-16 09:58 AM
Fallon would be yucking it up with Jeffrey Dahmer
13070044, that is not how that works at all
Posted by KosherSam, Fri Sep-16-16 09:46 AM
the equal time rule refers to advertising. If Hillary pays NBC for ads, and they accept the money and run the ads, they can't refuse to run Trump ads, and they have to offer equal time to Trump and other candidates at the same price that they charged hillary. They either have to run all political ads or none of them.

Talk shows are exempt from the equal time rule, as are documentaries, news interviews, and breaking news.

There used to be a thing called "the fairness doctrine" regarding equal time on TV, but that wasn't just limited to politics. It said that if you had someone on your show with a viewpoint on a topic, you had to have someone with the opposite view on at the same time. That's why 80s talk shows were so lit, because if Geraldo had a skinhead on the show, he'd have to have someone who was anti-racism on too, and they'd fight.

The fairness doctrine has long since been repealed though.

This is one of the few times that my communications degree comes in handy.
13070055, I am pretty sure equal time applies to more than just advertising.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-16-16 09:56 AM

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13070071, talk shows are exempt.
Posted by SoWhat, Fri Sep-16-16 10:08 AM
Tonight Show is NOT a talk show. It's variety like SNL.
13070127, other programs that have been labelled as "news programs" by the FCC
Posted by KosherSam, Fri Sep-16-16 11:00 AM
include Good Morning America, Entertainment Tonight, and Phil Donahue. Additionally, The Tonight Show has previously been categorized by the FCC as a news program.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/14/media/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-saturday-night-live-equal-time/

"The FCC has expanded the four exemptions to the rule so that most free appearances are not covered because they are treated as 'bona fide news interviews,'" Schwartzman said. "Significantly, the FCC has ruled that The Tonight Show and the other late-night shows are 'bona fide news interview shows.'"
13070191, good to know.
Posted by SoWhat, Fri Sep-16-16 11:37 AM
so i guess this was more about ratings than any FCC requirement.
13070228, yup, definitely about the ratings
Posted by KosherSam, Fri Sep-16-16 12:02 PM
13070054, #Actually, the Equal Time Laws aren't that clear on this
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-16-16 09:54 AM
I'd be surprised if that was the motivating factor.

http://www.techpolicydaily.com/communications/retire-equal-time-rules/


But I could be wrong.


At any rate I don't know if Equal Time requires you to be nice.




>So if Hillary is on Tonight then Trump has to be on. Ditto
>SNL and all other NBC shows. That's why you see Trump on these
>shows not necessarily bc the hosts or producers want him.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13070074, Fallon don't gotta be nice. True.
Posted by SoWhat, Fri Sep-16-16 10:09 AM
13070059, Is that how it works though?
Posted by Hitokiri, Fri Sep-16-16 09:57 AM
My understanding is that it's not tit-for-tat Hillary's on the show so Trump has to be on the show. But more-so this network has given Hillary 300 hours so they have to give Trump 300 hours. In reality, I'm sure that NBC (and every other network) has given Trump far more airtime than Hillary.

I could be wrong though.
13070076, Handling it this way is probably cleaner.
Posted by SoWhat, Fri Sep-16-16 10:12 AM
Like if NBC gave Hillary 30 hours in prime time it would be shady to give Trump 30 hours overnight. This way neither campaign can bitch and whine - they were on the same shows for the same amount of time. If that's what NBC is on, I mean. I dunno - it just makes sense when I think of it this way.
13070077, Hilldawg opening pickle jars and shit
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 10:13 AM


13070101, RE: Hilldawg opening pickle jars and shit
Posted by murph71, Fri Sep-16-16 10:32 AM

To mock the SHE HAD CANCER, Alex Jones/Trump conspiracy theories.....

Kimmel ain't about that bullshit.....
13070128, I just don't think it's THAT technical or legal of a consideration.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-16-16 11:01 AM
I think they say, well if we had Hillary on we HAVE to have Trump on but I don't think they are counting hours or minutes or driven by some legal interpretation of rarely invoked laws.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13070129, it's time and timeslot related
Posted by KosherSam, Fri Sep-16-16 11:04 AM
it doesn't have to be the same program, but if she gets 5 minutes in prime time, they can't give him 5 minutes at 3 AM
13070246, Trump is a regular on his show though not Hillary
Posted by RobOne4, Fri Sep-16-16 12:23 PM
Trump has been a regular guest since The Late Show. Between the apprentice and the Miss America pageant he has given him a reason to make the rounds on the talk show circuit. But we all saw Letterman take a stand after his ridiculous comments. Trump was a regular on his show as well. But he had a back bone and refused to bring him back when he went rogue.
13070440, Great point on Letterman
Posted by Stadiq, Fri Sep-16-16 04:32 PM

Fallon is a straight bafoon. I don't see how anyone could stand to watch him, let alone sign up to be his house band. smh
13070033, If you're mad over any of this...you are a complete idiot
Posted by Anonymous, Fri Sep-16-16 09:34 AM
There's no way you should be so ignorant to the way shit works that this not only has you upset with Fallon but upset with The Roots...the fucking band!

People love to find shit to bitch and moan about.

No surprise this is coming from a soft ass Drake stan.
13070050, RE: If you're mad over any of this...you are a complete idiot
Posted by murph71, Fri Sep-16-16 09:52 AM

>No surprise this is coming from a soft ass Drake stan.

Drake fan, Kendrick fan, Future fan...Rihanna fan....Whatever, dog....

Anyone with sense should be sickened with Trump being co-signed as if he's the new normal....
13070114, Where did I say I was comfortable with it?
Posted by Anonymous, Fri Sep-16-16 10:48 AM
I fucking hate Trump.

But I'm not dumb enough to believe he isn't going to make the rounds on late night.
13070304, RE: Where did I say I was comfortable with it?
Posted by murph71, Fri Sep-16-16 01:06 PM
>I fucking hate Trump.
>
>But I'm not dumb enough to believe he isn't going to make the
>rounds on late night.


He can make the rounds all he wants to...I just want people to treat his bullshit accordingly.....
13070058, Nice explanation as to why we shouldn't be mad about it.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-16-16 09:57 AM
Saying that's just how things work isn't saying shit bruh.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13070115, I don't feel I need to explain it...
Posted by Anonymous, Fri Sep-16-16 10:49 AM
If you don't get it then you don't get it.

This is nothing to be mad about.
13070125, I *can't* explain it...
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-16-16 10:58 AM
Fixed that for ya. Ya Welcomed.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13070147, you should be more concerned with why you need it explained
Posted by Anonymous, Fri Sep-16-16 11:15 AM
Lol @ thinking a major network's late night television show isn't going to invite the Republican nominee on.
13070156, Nah, I am not going to do your work for you. But I do know why
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-16-16 11:22 AM
a late night talk show shouldn't give a platform to a person who regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.*


*Quoting the Huffington Posts Editorial Note for all stories about Trump. Just to point out how you can discuss Trump or even talk to Trump, if you remember to make this point.



You are doing that normalizing Trump thing that everyone is talking about

http://www.salon.com/2016/05/25/stop_normalizing_trump_hes_conditioned_reporters_to_treat_crazy_nonsense_as_routine/







**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13070197, Lol @ thinking it's my job to educate you...
Posted by Anonymous, Fri Sep-16-16 11:43 AM
Keep fighting the good fight homie.

There is simply one thing you will never beat...and that's money.

As long as having Trump on TV is bringing money to the network, it is in-fucking-sane to expect the network not to invite him on.

And it's equally in-fucking-sane to expect Fallon of The Roots to lose their jobs over having Trump on. Only thing that will happen is that they'll both be replaced so you're essentially telling Fallon and The Roots not to feed their families because YOU want them to make YOUR point. Why don't you go ahead and quite your job as well and stand with them.

Nowhere did I say it was right or wrong...I'm just telling you what the reality of the situation is.

Not to mention the legal issues of the situation as already explained in this post.
13070323, they literally work for a network that took trump off the air
Posted by rob, Fri Sep-16-16 01:22 PM
and that's just after his first week of crazy in this campaign.

they wouldn't lose their jobs over it.
13070208, bruh
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 11:49 AM
13070079, Look at honky being all honkish
Posted by SeV, Fri Sep-16-16 10:15 AM
1) I clearly stated I wasn't mad at the roots. I said I didn't like seeing them having to laugh and play music for someone I know they despise. I mean Quest ain't even mention Trump in the fallon guest post in the lesson. Y do u think thats the case?

2) I can bump Taylor Swift and still be more realer than ur cracka ass. My music has no impact on the amount of respect I get but im sure if the few black real life friends u do have caught u listening to anything but the strictest of 90s Hiphop you'd look like a complete herb.





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13070116, You're assumptions perfectly align with your dumb ass
Posted by Anonymous, Fri Sep-16-16 10:50 AM
13070121, Stick to the lesson bruh
Posted by SeV, Fri Sep-16-16 10:55 AM
This ain't a good look for u right now
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13070149, SeV...I'm being completely honest here
Posted by Anonymous, Fri Sep-16-16 11:17 AM
You are the absolute dumbest person on this site.

In every forum.

Everything you have ever typed on this site is complete and utter bullshit.

13070165, Yet only one of us was able to articulate their point
Posted by SeV, Fri Sep-16-16 11:27 AM
Without becoming unhinged

But white rage-out bro


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13070190, It's all love...that's why I'm being honest with you...
Posted by Anonymous, Fri Sep-16-16 11:37 AM
I care about your mental state.

I feel like you need to get some help.

Once you get better you can come back and thank me.
13070200, The dude 9yrs deep in a online grudge over a Drake troll
Posted by SeV, Fri Sep-16-16 11:45 AM
Is worried about my mental state?


ok bro


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13070206, Just in case you didn't know...
Posted by Anonymous, Fri Sep-16-16 11:48 AM
The joke is on you...not Drake.

13070213, right.
Posted by SeV, Fri Sep-16-16 11:54 AM
Joke

Lol

Dude really tryin to walk back the crazy

U can try

Don't think anybody going to believe it

But carry on
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13070436, Imagine Drake performing the soundtrack for a Trump interview
Posted by Stadiq, Fri Sep-16-16 04:29 PM

This board would (rightfully) F R Y him.

And this ain't about Drake, I f*cking hate Drake myself.


But the double standards for anything Roots related (specifically 15) is kinda nutty.
13070537, Not true.
Posted by squeeg, Sat Sep-17-16 03:03 AM
>I mean Quest ain't even mention
>Trump in the fallon guest post in the lesson. Y do u think
>thats the case?

He put (tba) in the subject line, but said "i feel like it's Trump tho" in the message. People made walk-on music suggestions.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2972941&mesg_id=2972941&page=#2972945

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13070435, Ummm....no. Some folks are being straight hypocrits
Posted by Stadiq, Fri Sep-16-16 04:26 PM

First, "the way things work" hasn't applied to Trump in any way shape or form. From the racist things he's said, to the media letting him get away with it, to him not releasing his taxes, etc.


You can't use "the way things work" to defend someone treating Tump like a normal candidate, when he himself has been un-apologetically not normal.

There are PLENTY of things that could have been handled differently.

NBC could have not booked him, Fallon could have not jerked him off on stage, etc.

Hell they could have even pre-recorded the interview so the Roots wouldn't have to make a tough decision, and maybe Fallon wouldn't have been his usual nervous school girl self.

And then there's the Roots themselves.

Look, the Roots are my hands down favorite hip-hop group of all time but they didn't think this Fallon gig through, apparently.

You can't be a dynamic HIP HOP group that tries to make important statement albums like say Game Theory

AND be the cross-dressing house band for a bafoon.

You just can't.

And by "can't" I mean- you can't expect to not be called on your apparent hypocrisy.

When ?uesto walked back the Bachman thing in such an embarrassing way, I knew things would never be the same.

At first I thought he used his platform to call some sh!t out. More people caught it than he thought, and he WALKED IT BACK.

I mean, cmon.

A group of HIP HOP artists now have nightly boss(es).

This isn't the label just saying "you can't release this"

This is a major network demanding....well, I won't even say it.

And they willfully signed up for it!!

I know, I know "don't hate them getting paid"

FOH

You can't be both. You can't be the group dropping heavy, message albums and be the backup band why a cartoon character runs his fingers through the hair of a RACIST who WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT.


***And lets be real, this post would have went triple plat had the involved artist been anyone from Ye to Drake to even an old board favorite like Common. The involved artist would have been F R I E D.

But, because everyone is under the impression 15 lurks...its a$$ kiss central on here.

And again, I'm not just spewing pure hatred because I LOVE (ED?) the Roots.

But Donald Trump is f*cking evil , dogg. And he is being validated.

I mean, its bad enough he is being validated (or worse- treated softly) by white media from Lauer to Fallon

But to have my favorite Rap Group up there playing some song about a wall so that maybe, just maybe someone on Okayplayer can use it as proof they "stood up"??

Nah dog, they all should have called off sick. F*ck it.

And don't give me that "it's their job"

PLENTY of people throughout history have used their famous jobs as a platform to send a message.

Hell some are doing it RIGHT NOW.


So again, "the way things work" is some bullsh!t. Rules have changed.






13070481, The FUCK are you talking about son?
Posted by Anonymous, Fri Sep-16-16 06:40 PM
The only thing I've said in this post is that Trump = ratings so networks WILL book him.

I'm not saying that they should, I'm not saying that they shouldn't.

But let's not act surprised that he's on the show.

Fallon may have the pull to book someone but he damn sure doesn't have the pull to NOT book someone if the network wants.

As far as the way Fallon acted...that's a different story and I agree, he should've used his platform to roast him.

But he didn't.

This entire situation however is nothing to be mad over. I can't believe some of y'all are acting surprised that Trump was on the show.

Everyone wants to talk tough from their computer screen when y'all ain't doing shit about anything.

I can 100% guarantee that if you are in Fallon's or the Roots' position, y'all would not risk your job because you didn't want Trump on.

Fuck all this, stop treating him like a normal candidate bullshit. Of course he isn't a normal candidate. But the one thing that remains...if you bring ratings and money, networks don't give a fuck about how normal you are.

I wish y'all would be more upset with the way networks have these reality show portraying people.
13070519, You are very easily angered
Posted by Stadiq, Fri Sep-16-16 10:48 PM
I legit think Sev is right, which is a sentence I
never thought I'd type.

You should stick to making fantasy OC
tracklists and sh!t. At least in those posts,
you false sense of superiority will have a little
merit.

I don't know who is in charge of late night
Shows but I imagine Falon has a say.

Falon could have said f$ck the ratings.

Falon could have said, "nah I'll do it off stage
and not put my house band through this"

Roots could have said "nah we aren't playing
for this RACIST- we aren't going to pretend
It's ok"



Etc.

In other words, everyone involved could have
taken this as an opportunity to be stand up.

And you don't know me, but yes I have left money
on the table for my values.

My point is maybe the house band should have
done the same.

Or at least thought twice about becoming a house
Band in the first place.

You're over here talking about reality TV- ok,
make a post about that SON.

But this is about the racist running for prez,
and various groups playing their part in
normalizing and even validating this
horse sh!t.

Falon and everyone involved deserves to be
uncomfortable for that public hand job.

And this place should hold the roots to
The same standard as every other artist.

Imagine if lupe had tap danced? Shiiiit.

FOH



13070544, Lol @ thinking cussing = angry...where do y'all come from?
Posted by Anonymous, Sat Sep-17-16 06:26 AM
>I legit think Sev is right, which is a sentence I
>never thought I'd type.
>

SeV has never been right about anything in his entire life.

>You should stick to making fantasy OC
>tracklists and sh!t. At least in those posts,
>you false sense of superiority will have a little
>merit.
>

Not really sure what you're talking about.

>I don't know who is in charge of late night
>Shows but I imagine Falon has a say.
>
>Falon could have said f$ck the ratings.
>

Like I said...Fallon most likely has say on pushing for a booking but not on refusing a booking if the network tells him Trump is coming like it or not.

>Falon could have said, "nah I'll do it off stage
>and not put my house band through this"
>

Yeah...he could've said fuck my job too and left.

>Roots could have said "nah we aren't playing
>for this RACIST- we aren't going to pretend
>It's ok"
>
>
>
>Etc.
>

Yeah they could've but then they could've risked their job as well. And do you really think Trump is the only racist they've played for?

>In other words, everyone involved could have
>taken this as an opportunity to be stand up.
>
>And you don't know me, but yes I have left money
>on the table for my values.
>

Pretty sure you haven't left millions on the table bro.

>My point is maybe the house band should have
>done the same.
>

You or anyone else doesn't get to say shot about another man leaving money on the table. That's the problem. How are you going to come in here and tell about 10 grown men to leave their money on the table. That shit is ridiculous. You going to feed them when they do?

>Or at least thought twice about becoming a house
>Band in the first place.
>

This is a different discussion and maybe one worth having.

>You're over here talking about reality TV- ok,
>make a post about that SON.
>

>But this is about the racist running for prez,
>and various groups playing their part in
>normalizing and even validating this
>horse sh!t.
>
>Falon and everyone involved deserves to be
>uncomfortable for that public hand job.
>

Why do you keep spelling Fallon with one L? Maybe it shouldn't but it makes me question your intelligence a little to make such a dumb mistake. You're over here mad about nothing.

>And this place should hold the roots to
>The same standard as every other artist.
>
>Imagine if lupe had tap danced? Shiiiit.
>
>FOH
>
>

What standard? All they do is play music.

FOH with you calling me mad...you and others are up in arms about some shit that has been going on for a year like you're surprised...LOL

You know Trump has been on the show before right?
13070083, I was hoping they werent on stage
Posted by atruhead, Fri Sep-16-16 10:17 AM
I saw a brief clip without them in it

it is what it is at this point, their next release is a Hamilton themed mixtape
13070126, hamilton themed mixtape? you serious?
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 10:59 AM
the fuck man...

is Tina Fey their manager now?
13070136, RE: hamilton themed mixtape? you serious?
Posted by atruhead, Fri Sep-16-16 11:09 AM
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2016/03/questlove-lin-manuel-miranda-the-hamilton-mixtape
13070153, ugh
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 11:20 AM
13070139, If I see another OkayPost about "bad optics" I might fucking scream.
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Sep-16-16 11:12 AM
.
13070152, It's ok...SeV's intelligence limits him to trending phrases only
Posted by Anonymous, Fri Sep-16-16 11:20 AM
13070179, *mentions drake w/ every post in GD*
Posted by SeV, Fri Sep-16-16 11:32 AM

____________

Dallas Cavericks LETS GO!!
13070199, ^^^falls for it every time...
Posted by Anonymous, Fri Sep-16-16 11:44 AM
Keep showing us how smart you are bro
13070207, Fall for u looking like an obsessive lunatic?
Posted by SeV, Fri Sep-16-16 11:49 AM
If thats ur goal ok.

Got no problem helping u out there
____________

Dallas Cavericks LETS GO!!
13070330, I'm the same with "we not talking about/no post about?"
Posted by magilla vanilla, Fri Sep-16-16 01:29 PM
Do the search. if you don't see it, post the title.
13070448, those posts are generally made in jest anyway...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Sep-16-16 04:51 PM
>Do the search. if you don't see it, post the title.
13070499, haha
Posted by rawsouthpaw, Fri Sep-16-16 07:53 PM
13070170, he's already had them dress in drag with wigs on so. .....
Posted by deejboram, Fri Sep-16-16 11:29 AM
.
13070245, Wasn't the apprentice on NBC? Why be outraged now
Posted by bentagain, Fri Sep-16-16 12:21 PM
that is, Trump being a racist POS isn't new news

if that's your beef

why weren't you mad when they joined the tonight show/NBC to begin with?
13070315, cause they feel it slippin away?
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 01:17 PM
ionno... this whole "making Trump appear normal again" argument is weird.

13070320, He has the support of over 40% of the voting public. Trump is normal
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Fri Sep-16-16 01:21 PM
13070337, Ur continous horrible takes on anything political is what's weird
Posted by SeV, Fri Sep-16-16 01:36 PM
Hell ur takes on most topics period

It's like u trolling but it actually appears that ur a complete idiot at times

I can't call it
____________

Dallas Cavericks LETS GO!!
13070344, quyt cryin sev
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 01:40 PM
13070346, Oh shyt that's nyver been doyn byfore
Posted by SeV, Fri Sep-16-16 01:43 PM

____________

Dallas Cavericks LETS GO!!
13070332, Let's act like the past 2yrs didn't happen
Posted by SeV, Fri Sep-16-16 01:31 PM
Ok.
____________

Dallas Cavericks LETS GO!!
13070369, That birther $hit was 2011, Central Park 5 in 89, DOJ suit in 73, etc...
Posted by bentagain, Fri Sep-16-16 02:05 PM
you really want to get on your soapbox

that jawn was built and ready for you to stand on before you were even born.

were you picketing NBC during the airing of the apprentice?
13070326, At Least The Roots Stood Up to Donald Trump on Fallon Last Night
Posted by Government Name, Fri Sep-16-16 01:25 PM
http://www.gq.com/story/the-roots-fallon-donald-trump
13070342, yeah...no
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 01:39 PM
if thats standing up... sit down

13070343, /post. lock this shit.
Posted by double negative, Fri Sep-16-16 01:40 PM
13070345, you think they made a powerful statement with that intro?
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 01:43 PM
cause to ke it sounds like it played well with the whole Fallon jokey joke theme of the show.

her comes the guy building the wall... (and we know damn well he aint building shit)
13070438, LULZ
Posted by Stadiq, Fri Sep-16-16 04:30 PM
13070349, You need better things to be "outraged" about. This is silly
Posted by Binladen, Fri Sep-16-16 01:45 PM
13070362, should've made post about a black porn star
Posted by SeV, Fri Sep-16-16 01:59 PM
Posing with the confederate flag


____________

Dallas Cavericks LETS GO!!
13070422, Too late
Posted by Binladen, Fri Sep-16-16 04:17 PM
already did it
13070453, What could The Roots have done?
Posted by handle, Fri Sep-16-16 05:11 PM
Quit?
1: All call in sick for the day?
2: Refuse to play any music?
3: Play a powerful anti-Trump song that would clearly expose him as a fraud and force him to drop out of the race?


#1,#2, and #3 would ONLY hurt The Roots and no one else.

#4 isn't possible because there are no rules for Trump. The Daily Show, John Oliver, Jim Jefferies, Stephen Colbert, Seth Myers, Kieth Olberman, the anti-defamation league , EVERYONE has done it.

Now not doing 1-4 doesn't mean these things are true:

The Roots sold out.
The Roots are cowards.
The Roots support Trump.

If The Roots were in a sketch with him - or let him sit in and play music I'd be more concerned.

But what happen is that The Tonight Shows producers value "buzz" over integrity.

If The Roots did quit (or were fired) then what? You think we'd would somehow be better off? Because they pretty much got fired for Bachman.



13070484, even if they did a sketch with him it wouldnt change my view of them
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-16-16 06:44 PM
its their job
13070486, A lot of "when keeping it real goes wrong" mafuckas in this post
Posted by Anonymous, Fri Sep-16-16 06:47 PM
Who probably wouldn't do half the shit they talking about they damn selves.

13070500, Many times poeple who use this phrase don't actually know the job
Posted by handle, Fri Sep-16-16 08:03 PM
>its their job

I'm not sure what's in their contract (and neither are you.)

If they're not required to do it contractually they could refuse. Kaepernick anyone?

Or the writers and producers could have some fucking human decency - that's in the realm of possibility.

The good news here is that everyone knows Trump is a piece of shit - even if they agree with him.

The real disappointment - especially NBC banned Trump from the network, is that he was invited back on this show. And then Jimmy was all "Hey, Mr. Hitler, can I play with your mustache???"

But Dr Evil produces the show and he LOVES this shit. Ford's press secretary was the first in the long line - with Palin being the one that sold more extra commercials than anyone else.

But I'm glad The Roots are on TV a lot - and they aren't actually doing anything to help Trump.

They're just "doing their job."

13070531, .
Posted by squeeg, Sat Sep-17-16 02:17 AM
 
13070471, *LINK* about the Roots intro song for trump
Posted by exactopposite, Fri Sep-16-16 05:48 PM
http://www.gq.com/story/the-roots-fallon-donald-trump
13070501, really making something out of nothing here.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Sep-16-16 08:12 PM
13070526, The Roots used a Badu song & weren't pictured with Trump
Posted by rawsouthpaw, Sat Sep-17-16 01:15 AM
https://www.gq.com/story/the-roots-fallon-donald-trump?mbid=social_twitter

At Least The Roots Stood Up to Donald Trump on Fallon Last Night

Photo of Jack Moore
BY JACK MOORE
14 hours ago
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(PHOTO BY: MARK SELIGER/NBC/NBCU PHOTO BANK VIA GETTY IMAGES)
Somebody had to.

You've probably seen by now that Donald Trump was on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon last night. It was an embarrassing, fawning "interview" from Fallon. It felt like watching a dictator be "fun" on state-run TV. The whole thing was very "Look at Kim Jong-Un not kill that man for touching his hair!" and Fallon seemed more than happy to be a part of it. Now, I know you're no journalist, Jimmy, but is it asking too much for you to not lend your platform to enabling and normalizing a racist demagogue? Thankfully, not everyone involved with The Tonight Show was ready to fellate the melting candle that conned his way to a major party nomination.
When Trump came out, The Roots, who were conspicuously never shown during any of the Trump segments (neither while playing him on nor while playing the show off to commercial) made an inspired choice for his intro song, which you can see at the beginning of this video:

If you can't tell what it is, they're playing Erykah Badu's "20 Feet Tall." The specific lyrics of the section they played:
"Then you, you built a wall
A 20 foot wall, so I couldn't see
But if I get off my knees..."



Huh, that seems like a conspicuously incomplete phrase to me. I wonder how it finishes:
"Then you, you built a wall
A 20 foot wall, so I couldn't see
But if I get off my knees
I might recall I'm 20 feet tall."
Look, could I be reading too much into this? Sure. But one, we know The Roots have used these intro songs to make statements before. And two, on a night where Donald Trump got the most kid gloves treatment imaginable, it doesn't feel like an accident for The Roots to play a song that subtly reminds people both that this is a maniac who wants to build a wall on our southern border, and that if we want to we can overcome his bullshit. All we have to do is stand up.
13070533, For everyone talking about normalizing…
Posted by squeeg, Sat Sep-17-16 02:31 AM
Donald Trump is the Republican presidential nominee in a reportedly close race. Victory aside, how can his behavior be more normalized than it already is? A non-offensive late-night talk show appearance is a symptom, not a cause, of the normalizing that's already occurred.



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13070548, These people read a few headlines with the word "normalizing"
Posted by Anonymous, Sat Sep-17-16 06:48 AM
That's the only reason they're outraged and using that term.
13070560, unfortunately Trump is normal to a large chunk of America
Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Sep-17-16 08:22 AM
we didnt want to belive it and we thought this Trump shit was a joke but its real.

He is going to get face time, some people arent going to press him or hit him with hard questions.

I think the frustration needs to be reserved for real journalist and not comedians who spend 99% of their time telling corny jokes and having corny skits.