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211161, Yup. Posted that Vox piece in the 1st thread. I have some very strong
Posted by kfine, Tue Mar-24-20 02:17 PM

thoughts on wet markets now after watching these. I think there should be a global ban and deproliferation response asap.

There was another piece too, from 60 min AU, that was pretty informative. I'm glad at least one other okp has taken interest in this aspect of it lol. Let me share again:


https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=18&topic_id=210457#211071

"Some interesting vids about coronavirus origins/zoonotic jumps:"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpoJGYlW54 (Vox piece, 9m watch)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7nZ4mw4mXw (60 Min AU piece, 28m watch)

My takeaways:

It's striking that ground zero of BOTH the SARS coronavirus pandemic of the early 2000s and the current COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic were found to be this particular type of market (tho different suspected animal hosts in each case).

Also some sobering layers to it all, for folks that look for such intersections, with respect to:

-environmentalism (eg. the totally UNNATURAL intermingling in these markets of animals from such different geographies, ecosystems, and trophic levels with not only each other but with humans, dramatically facilitating zoonotic jumps and also the range of diseases that can 'jump' in the first place)

-capitalism (eg. apparently, there is a very small consumer base for the animal products sold in these markets. the entire industry exists to serve a tiny but powerful elite class who 1-are the only ones who can even afford to buy/prepare/eat this stuff; 2-use their influence to lobby against tighter/permanent regulations; 3-keep demand up regardless of regulatory climate and thus facilitate illicit trade of these products by organized crime syndicates bc they'll pay whatever which makes it a lucrative underground business)

After watching these vids, I think prevention may be bigger than what any one country can tackle alone (as it shows in one video, even with these markets now banned for the time being in China there are still some operating in other countries (eg. Thailand) or even continents). I think the global response may have to expand past WHO and there should be multilateral prohibition of this type of market across the board. Like, using policy instruments as binding as the Geneva Conventions. These pandemics are as deadly as any military conflict and have global reach. I think the argument could be made that these markets constitute biological weapons that (in most cases) simply haven't detonated yet, and should be banned entirely. Like, from Earth.



>I am not saying become a vegan. I am not vegan. But it is of
>concern how these pathogens jump from animal to man.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se9yqWNIG8A
>
>If you are able to sit through it, this talk by Dr. Michael
>Greger was given in 2008 and he pretty much nails what is
>currently happening.
>
>and then there is this:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpoJGYlW54
>
>Talks about how wildlife trade is linked to coronavirus. Vox
>currently has episodes on Netflix (Pandemic) that I am
>checking out as well. If there is any truth, I hope behaviors
>are changed in the future.