Histo-reeee (c) that Dilla track

Picked near the end of the draft #249

Gets a chance to play for that Mizzou crowd

ole fruit smoothy ass nigga kissing some white boy in the mouth. Niggas grandma's finna faint and shit.


I quit watching.


BTW how many cut-a-ways did they do to the other 7th rounders who got drafted?????

oh wait.

THEY ALWAYS DO THAT

Who else did they show.

It is historic. Come off it

Well players equally as talented didn't get a segment for them. I'm sure they would have loved to be shown kissing their loved ones as well.

People aren't interested in the other 6th and 7th rounders

levels of cameras at his crib
STILL

https://twitter.com/neetzan/status/465266113883148288/photo/1

just the quick peck on the lips after he got the call

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saying all the right things

embracing the historic nature of the moment

said "it's not a distraction. people want to make it a distraction"

saying he's confident his players will accept Sam. "it's a league of diversity"

when asked how he'll react if a player disproves of Sam being on the team
he said he'll address it like "any other act of discrimination"

they view Sam as a designated pass rusher and it sounds like they
expect him to make the team. they don't view it as just a gamble

>they view Sam as a designated pass rusher and it sounds like
>they
>expect him to make the team. they don't view it as just a
>gamble

I don't believe him.

a select few might make the practice squad
st louis drafted him cause he a local kid
this is monumnetal and all
but dude still sux balls
and not just his boyfriends

like Jason Collins
i been waiting to see what this dude is twerking with but his sorry ass aint played a SINGLE SECOND in this entire playoffs
not a a SINGLE time has he been asked to disrobe

he's the gay that sat by the door
they got him ironing warmups like they had freeman sharpening pencils

He's the first openly gay player drafted, but he probably won't be the first openly gay player to suit up for an NFL game.

U in 3rd round and u in danger
If u didnt show enough to get drafted in first two rounds
Your chances of being signed is hella slim
And if u do get signed u will be week to week
Or get shopped from practice squad to practice squad
Nfl just dont have that much depth
I got relatives that did NUMBERS in D1 programs and them niggas is either ridin pine in NFL now
Or have been cast to the Argonauts

Sam is an affirmative action pick
NFL aint the place where u wanna be affirmative actioned
What if he had went to Dolphins pre-Incognito
NFL locker rooms aint girl scout troupe meetings
But this dude will continually get a pass for fear of PC retribution

>But this dude will continually get a pass for fear of PC
>retribution

7th round pick is a garbage ass pick
I mean,
Yeah it is progress
But what REALLLY would have made a statement is if they woulda blew their FIRST ROUND selection on the SEC Defensive Player Of the Year
He got picked
But will he get tick
Shit, squads have picked up players like that dude that got accused of rape that was set to go to usc.
He got a shot from Atlanta.
Played in a preseason game
And they was like nah
But i think they woulda actually fucked with dude if he didnt make a few errors in that game
I was rootin for him soooo hard

They can draft dude and not spend a single penny on him, yet, sell a shitload of his nalia becuz he on the draft squad
Instantly publicity for their shitty ass team
Same team that tried to copy warren buffets march madness bracket idea but only offer like a million and make the chances of winning a million times harder

i mean seriously.
and how is this any different than folks that said
gays can't be out in the military because
"soldiers weren't ready for that?"


>What if he had went to Dolphins pre-Incognito
>NFL locker rooms aint girl scout troupe meetings

then he would have to deal with that.
maybe one on one with his teammates. maybe with HR. maybe by grinning and bearing it. or maybe by quitting his job.
but if that happened, he'd have to deal with it.

just like you have to deal with bullshit at work sometimes.
but what can he do besides try to play?
the dude is gay and he wants to play football.
and he SHOULD be able to play football if he's good enough to make the team.
that's the end of the story.

i mean what was the alternative?
i can't think of anything he could have done to make it any different.
and he wants to play and he didn't want to deal with being closeted
so here we are.

oh wow, thanks for clearing that up for us!

https://twitter.com/gregaiello/status/465479778154205185

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Big day for rookies not drafted. 31 percent of active NFL players last year were not drafted as rookies. Also15 members of #ProFootballHOF.

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cause right now this looks like a goodwill effort from his hometown squad

all but 2 went in the 1st round

>cause right now this looks like a goodwill effort from his
>hometown squad

consensus is that plenty of teams had him ranked higher than the 7th round

even if he went undrafted, word is he would've had several teams go after him
as an undrafted rookie. after seeing Jeff Fisher handle his press
conference so well. I gotta believe most teams were scared.
I can't imagine many coaches accepting the spotlight that comes with this

Maybe cuz Mizzou didnt get as much tv time as other SEC squads but Khalil Mack name got thrust to #1 overall contentender cause he beasted.

Watch the tape man
It's cool dude is gay and all
But can he ball?
Jason Collins is gay and he sits in the fuckin tunnel he so far from Kidd.
Like litteraly the asst coach's intern is pushin this dude off the bench he so far down the line

Babysteps i guess
But i would like to see a gay Heisman trophy or naismith winner.
Fuckin Finals MVP.
When Jackie did it, it was no denying he was creme de la creme
These dudes gettin in off affirmative action only

I wish clowney was gay
That way, without a DOUBT they could not deny that man a spot

Im rootin for the gays
But not on no sissyfied backdoor shit
Come thru knockin heads off and EARN yours

But please, continue your loud and wrong hitting streak.

You don't become SEC defensive player of the year by playing one good game. The SEC is recognized as the best conference, he was going up against plenty of dudes who will be playing on Sundays. He would have been a 3rd/4th round pick if the gay stuff didn't exist.

I mean, your boy Jackson Jeffcoat was Big 12 DPOY and didn't even get drafted

my point isn't to shit on jeffcoat, just saying that college accolades don't always equate to draft status.

If khalil mack wasnt said to be #1 pick i woulda never reviewed his stats or footage

So i look at Sam and I see he has the 9th most tackles on Mizzou this year
Somebody got DOUBLE the number of tackles he got
Maybe they scared of Sam and run away from him



He doin good because he got 48 tackles and 11 of them are sacks

Ehhhh i dont wannna be a box score betty and i dont feel like watchin all their games last year.
But pure stats, dude was not the best in SEC this year.
He wasnt even best on his team in stats.

Why u so vested?
Im saying dude is sorry like Id say any other dude is sorry.
Fuckin AJ McCarron got drafted way late.
Shit, teddyB almost dropped to 2nd round
Gotdamn Johnny Cash went 22nd

Ball dont lie
Let the man rise or fall on his own laurels

You're lying about his chances. Yes, its not easy to make an NFL roster, but there are plenty of late picks and udfas that stick. Let the dude have his day and get to work.

Fuck his sexuality.
His game just aint sexy.
Clowney is sexy as FUCK.
Niggas name ring bells.
That one hit heard round the world put and kept him on the map.
Clowney and Sam play in same conference and same position
But yet Sam was CO-dpoy.

I aint seen jason collins play a single second yet.
Ive sat and painstakingly watched these old ass bum ass nets to see what collins is working with, but he gets no burn.
Not even GARBAGE minutes.

Jackie Robinson came into the league bussin heads
He was already TOP notch
Sam scrapin the BOTTOM at beast

lol, so pressed you're comparing him to one overall

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SQBLzotAn3M

Just hours after sports history was made, you are typing up Colin Powell-ass passages about why no one should care. Well guess what? We do care. It's all over the news. And soon enough, all up in the NFL locker rooms. Get over it.

In OKS we call these agendas and folks go on for years about the most trivial players.

We can revisit this on Labor Day

>In OKS we call these agendas and folks go on for years about
>the most trivial players.

Sounds like quite the timesuck.

>We can revisit this on Labor Day

Sure, for fun. But history's already been made. Just like it was made when Jason Collins joined the Nets. It would be nice if he becomes a top player, but at this point it's not necessary.

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and now I get the "wedding reception" reply

thought it was all about that quick peck




but hopefully, that clip is a sign that he won't be all uptight like he was at the combine

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damn Sam...dont just take the ass liek that on national tv


does it really matter?

but on the opposite hand, if he were doing it to a lady, there'd be nothing to mention.

... it's impossible to imagine the weight on his shoulders. This was a great next step toward his dream and his happiness.

From what I recall all of his teammates at mizzou knew he was gay and rode for him. He got to play, got named dpoy, annoinced he was gay b4 the draft, got endorsement deals, and got drafted where he was rated.

Yeah he got some snide remarks but so did every other high profile prospect.

>From what I recall all of his teammates at mizzou knew he was
>gay and rode for him. He got to play, got named dpoy,
>annoinced he was gay b4 the draft, got endorsement deals, and
>got drafted where he was rated.
>
>Yeah he got some snide remarks but so did every other high
>profile prospect.

You know how hard it is to play football while being Gay? You didn't know Gay makes you slow and weak? Just walking around while gay is like being in that gravity chamber on Dragon Ball Z. its makes everything like 5 times harder to physically do.

Respect ole boy chump.

two dead brothers and a sister, two more brothers in jail, ostracized from his family (he lived with another family in high school).

And has nothing to do with his sexuality.

brilliant.

yall niggas man.

There's no comparison of the percentages of nasty remarks.

Not to mention the awful family stuff that Will pointed out, including being cast out by members of his own family specifically because he's gay. That's heartbreaking stuff, and all too common.

No endorsement deal or amount of positive press will change the amount of personal hardship he has gone through and will continue to go through for being a gay athlete. You could see the weight of it in his tears last night-- that was more sobbing than the other prospects, with good reason.

It seems like thats his big problem.

Dude is being given the opportunity to follow his dream at the highest level while kissing his boyfriend in the mouth on tv. Sorry but I just don't feel sorry for him.

his siblings are dead,
he was kicked out of his home by his family,
and a bunch of people have a problem with him because he' gay.

the question was... "what has he gone through?"
the answer is... his sibling are dead, his family disowned him, and people are talking a lot of shit about him because he's gay.


i didn't hear anybody say you should feel sorry for him if you don't.
i think ppl were answering the question that asked
what has he had to overcome.



>Sorry but I just don't feel sorry for him.

>the question was... "what has he gone through?"
>the answer is... his sibling are dead, his family disowned
>him, and people are talking a lot of shit about him because
>he's gay.

And if folks don't feel sorry for him, or at least a twinge of respect that he has made it this far despite all of this, then I feel sorry for those folks.

I don't respect shit about this nigga until he starts getting to the quarterback.

Its hundreds of dudes in the league with fucked up backgrounds. This one aint special because he also happens to fuck dudes.

And in my opinion, true equality is that I just don't give a fuck.

I'm not about to sit here and act like this nigga crossed the Edmund Pettus Bridge. Ain't nobody tried to stop him from doing shit.

and although it doesn't matter to YOU
that an openly gay dude got drafted, it matters to some ppl.
it's never happened before.

that's why ppl care.
you don't care-- which is fine.
i was just answering your question.

>and although it doesn't matter to YOU
>that an openly gay dude got drafted, it matters to some ppl.
>it's never happened before.
>
>that's why ppl care.
>you don't care-- which is fine.
>i was just answering your question.


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We answered. Very clearly.

I don't know about Joe Corn Mo, but I watch football religiously. I also have gay friends. So I very acutely realize what this means to the gay community, whether he ever sacks a quarterback or not. And I don't think it's hard to figure out why it's important to them if you give it an ounce of effort.

basically how is a parent supposed to explain dudes kissing to kids
who have no knowledge of homosexuality
because im sure that was the first time a lot of ppl in the mainstream have ever seen two dudes kiss
i thought abt that too...if i was watching with a child who understood affection
between a man and a woman..how would i begin to explain to them how two dudes could kiss...
what do you tell em?

>basically how is a parent supposed to explain dudes kissing
>to kids
>who have no knowledge of homosexuality
>because im sure that was the first time a lot of ppl in the
>mainstream have ever seen two dudes kiss
>i thought abt that too...if i was watching with a child who
>understood affection
>between a man and a woman..how would i begin to explain to
>them how two dudes could kiss...
>what do you tell em?

they kissed each other because they were a couple.
kids have seen adults kiss before-- in movies and tv shows and in real life.

of course, if you are prudish, you also have the right to explain
to your child that you may think that public displays of affection are gross, shameful and wrong.

and if you feel ____ about gay ppl, in particular...
you also have the right to explain to your children that you think
that having or expressing romantintic affection for members of the same sex
goes against your familly's religious beliefs or whatever.

in other words, you can tell your kids whatever you want.
that's your right.

but i think you are making this harder on yourself than you need to.
i don't know what there is to explain about two adults kissing.





>basically how is a parent supposed to explain dudes kissing
>to kids
>who have no knowledge of homosexuality
>because im sure that was the first time a lot of ppl in the
>mainstream have ever seen two dudes kiss
>i thought abt that too...if i was watching with a child who
>understood affection
>between a man and a woman..how would i begin to explain to
>them how two dudes could kiss...
>what do you tell em?

Even if you super conservative and tell them it ain't cool, how hard is it to explain niggas kissing to kids?

Lil niggas be watching Ben 10 and talking rainbow horses and shit. Niggas liking other niggas ain't no kinda weighty concept.

especially if a child has only seen hetero affection?
did u really refer to a cartoon? lol
and this is moreso about me trying to explain it in childlike terms
cuz most niggas dont understand homo shit period
myself included
i know okp is the bastion of progressiveness
and all that
but my 50+ yr old auntie was dry heaving as they showed the kiss on tv
ppl have varying reactions
is it really that easy?

"daddy, why were those two men kissing?"
"because they are gay. in our family, we believe gay ppl ______ *insert whatever
you think your kid should know about gay ppl*"


like i said, i was always clear on how my mother and father
felt about queers.

because they told me.
which was their right.
because they were my parents.

obviously, my parents and i don't see eye to eye on this
now that i am an adult. but it wasn't confusing to me as a kid.
i knew where they stood on sex, love, marriage, all of that.

...ain't no good come from hiding it or making it bigger than it is. Bout the only thing hard for kids to handle is tragedy.

My parents straight up told me: Some men like other men, but it's wrong. And I was like: A'ight. Then went back to watching Hong Kong Phooey.

You ain't gotta get into the sexual details. They don't need to hear alla that.

>especially if a child has only seen hetero affection?


if a child has only ever seen a cat, and then they see a dog, how are you going to alleviate their confusion? you gonna make a post about that?

if they've only ever seen cheese pizza, then a pepperoni one gets put in front of them, how the hell are you going to explain that?

in other words, kids see and experience new shit every damn day...

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ruining society, and probably singlehandedly causing all currently living human beings to ultimately enter a fiery pit of hell.

what will be difficult to explain to your child?

is it hard to explain why they were kissing?
is it hard to explain that not all men are attracted to women?

if you feel ____ about gay ppl,
you can share those feelings with your child.
you can have a conversation about it.

i knew how my parents felt about gay people
because they told me.
it came up in conversation.

what's complicated?
just talk to them.

is about the same as talking to your kids about the grapefruit video.

i really don't get it.

"they kissed because they love each other. sometimes a boy and a boy or a girl and a girl love each other and kiss."

"oh, okay. can we have peanut butter on pizza for dinner tonight?"

that's it. that's the whole conversation with a toddler.

if the kid had questions about two men kissing,
he could pull out the Holy Bible and say, "a man kissing another man is a sin.
so you remember the conversations we had about sin?
those two men just sinned."

and if he thinks the child is ready, he could even
have the talk about hell, and how gays are going there.



that's not the conversation that i, joe corn mo, would have with my kid.
but people that feel ____ about gay ppl have every right to have that conversation with their kid. as i said, i was always crystal clear on how my parents felt about queers.

because we talked about it.

it was just never a topic of discussion
and
thats why it was a discusion yesterday
some parents may feel they are forced to broach
a topic most of them have no clue about...or are hesitant to teach their kids about
much like sex or drugs
basically i heard a lot of "they could have showed that late at night"
i dont have kids
but i do feel where they comin from

Ain't nobody talking about gay people like that, especially to children. Outside of overhearing grown folks say such and such was gay or calling my aunt a bull dagger, the topic was hardly ever brought up.

if they are deeply concerned about the images their kids are seeing on tv,
just don't let them watch it.

like seriously, just don't put a tv in the house.


if i have a kid, i might not let them watch
television until they are at least in middle school.
because i don't know that the images that the media
shows are in the best interest of my child.


but if my kid sees something on tv that i would have them
rather not have seen... that would be my fault.
period.


and even if the kid DID see something i didn't want them to see,
i don't see how hard it would be to have a conversation about it.
that's my job, as a parent.

so i don't get this problem at all.


>Ain't nobody talking about gay people like that, especially
>to children. Outside of overhearing grown folks say such and
>such was gay or calling my aunt a bull dagger, the topic was
>hardly ever brought up.

I think most people assume their kids are straight.

but the point remains...

if you have a problem with your children seeing the stuff they show on tv...
there is a simple solution.

don't let your kids watch tv.
if i have kids, i probably won't let them watch tv
until they get to middle school.

because i don't think the images shown on tv are healthy,
and i wouldn't want them exposed to that at an early age.


it doesn't seem like a hard thing to do.
and if you can't do it... yeah, that's lazy parenting.



>I think most people assume their kids are straight.

parents want the media to do their job
and just not show anything they don't want their kids exposed to.

if parents are THAT concerned about their kids are seeing,
then the parents shouldn't have a tv in the house.
or they shouldn't let their kids watch movies that haven't seen first.
they should home school them and make sure that the curriculum they provide
is in line with the values they want to instill in their children as a parent.


but it is ridiculous to censor programming to account
for these lazy parents.

because other ppl watch tv too.
if you don't want your kid exposed to ____ ,
then pay attention to your kid and don't let them watch it.


if it's really that deep.



> it was just never a topic of discussion
>and
>thats why it was a discusion yesterday
> some parents may feel they are forced to broach
>a topic most of them have no clue about...or are hesitant to
>teach their kids about
>much like sex or drugs
>basically i heard a lot of "they could have showed that late
>at night"
>i dont have kids
>but i do feel where they comin from

to me anyway
i actually do think some of it is on espn
its not hbo or showtime
a lot of kids watch espn all day
so to tell them to get rid of the tv is kinda weird
im sure some of espn employees werent ok with showing it as well

who gets to decide whats ok to expose to kids and whats not?

>who gets to decide whats ok to expose to kids and whats not?

parents have no control over that
are we saying its ok for espn or any entity to decide for them?

if i have a kid, i don't know that i would let them watch tv.
at least not until they got to middles school.
i don't think it would be hard to keep kids from seeing it, either.

we won't have one in the house,
and when other kids come over to play, there won't be one there for
them to watch, either.

so if kids are seeing something on tv
the parents don't think should be seen...
it's pretty easy.

turn. off. the television.

i refuse to believe a parent can't outsmart a kid
and figure out a way to not have them see the idiot box.


>parents have no control over that
>are we saying its ok for espn or any entity to decide for
>them?
>

its really not that simple to just turn off the tv
especially in todays age?
these lil LITTLE ass kids know how to dl an app on a smartphone
i just dont think its that simple
i could be wrong

>its really not that simple to just turn off the tv
>especially in todays age?
>these lil LITTLE ass kids know how to dl an app on a
>smartphone


where is the kid getting a smartphone if i didn't buy it?
where is the kid going to see tv if it's not in the house?

if there is no television in the house,
the kids won't watch tv.

now you may say, what about other kids? they have TV's in their houses. your kid will see television there.
okay, fine. depending on how deep i want to go with my no tv rule,
i could set a policy that all my kid's playmates have to come to visit
at our house-- where there is no tv.

problem solved.
then they only see tv when we are waiting in line at the bank...
which i can deal with.


bottom line, if the tv isn't in the house, the kid won't watch it.
it's that simple. it won't be hard. i don't even watch tv anyway, for the most part. so this is not a stretch for me.
i went through years during law school without owning a television.



then there is the issue of the kid getting exposed to things at school.
and if it's that deep, there are still options for parents
to shield them from things they don't want their kids exposed to.
they can home school their kids.
or they can send them to a private school that will reinforce
the values they want to instill in their child.



if a kid is seeing something on tv
that the parent thinks the kid shouldn't see,
the question i have for the parent is... why was your child watching tv?


>i just dont think its that simple
>i could be wrong

how much they care.
kids don't have awkward conversations. adults do.

ours, years ago, went like this:

her: why are the boys kissing?
me: they love each other.
some boys like girls and some boys like boys.
some girls like boys and some girls like girls.
her: ok
*goes back to playing*

one of my biggest peeves with some parents is that they don't really TALK to their kids, they talk at them.
so when stuff like this happens they get mad cause they don't know how to have a conversation with their own kids.

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kids watch on TV.

2. The 7th round of the NFL draft is hardly a "national TV event."

3. During the 7th round the talk about whether or not Sam would get drafted was nearly non-stop so if you were paying any attention and worried that your children might see a happy homosexual express affection, there was some warning.

4. I find it a little concerning that you have no apparent issue with children seeing Taylor Lewan being drafted, and hearing analysts mention that he threatened to rape a woman if she pressed rape charges against a teammate, but two guys kissing is a problem.

5. As I understand it, ESPN and NFL Network are cable/satellite entities and not offered as over the air programming and thus not subject to FCC content regulations, so the networks make their own decisions on "what kids get to see."

They talked about this shit for the last two days, talking about it now and showed him kissing like a thousand trillion times.

Yall niggas be moving goal post like a motherfucker.

like i said, i don't think i'd let my kid watch tv until
they got to middle school.

because i don't like what is being shown on tv.

so get rid of the television in your house if you don't want
your kid to see what's on tv. problem solved.

in other words, quit being a lazy parent and do your job.

>Taylor Lewan...he threatened to rape a woman if
>she pressed rape charges against a teammate

but i was halfway joking about that part.

but as for the not having a tv, i was serious.
if i had a kid, i doubt i would let them watch tv until they
at least got to middle school.

because there are too many images and messages on tv
that i don't think it's appropriate for children to be exposed to.
so if i had a kid, i don't think it would be hard to not
let my kid see television.

and if they DID see tv,
and they saw something they had questions about...
i refuse to believe i couldn't explain it to them and have a
conversation about it.


that's my job.


>to me anyway
>i actually do think some of it is on espn
>its not hbo or showtime
>a lot of kids watch espn all day
>so to tell them to get rid of the tv is kinda weird
>im sure some of espn employees werent ok with showing it as
>well
>
>who gets to decide whats ok to expose to kids and whats not?

and how the "Great Satan" is trying to destroy the Black male.

that is my point.
he should tell the kid whatever he wants.

it's his kid.

i dunno why he's making it complicated.
my parents had 0 problems telling me how they felt about queers.
we talked about it frequently.

'i dunno it's your shitty kid you tell em.'

how do you explain ray rice dragging that girl out of the elevator?

ya know?

kids are stupid that way.
so i don't understand what is so hard to explain to a kid.

pull out the bible.
show them a religious program.
make something up.

like... you can tell your kid anything.
and they will accept it.

because they're kids.

(c) bill burr.

you can literally tell them whatever the fuck you want.
and they'll just believe you.

>'i dunno it's your shitty kid you tell em.'
>
>how do you explain ray rice dragging that girl out of the
>elevator?

I'm sure that's much easier to explain than the sexual assaults, rape, and drug/alcohol related charges that NFL athletes receive press for any given year. How did parents explain Aaron Hernandez or Ray Rice?

I think love is a far easier concept for a kid to grasp than sexual assault or murder.

You don't think Black parents are talking to kids about murder and rape, etc..before some homosexuality BS.

Hell I can guarantee you White folks down here ain't talking to their children bout gays.

I'm talking about a child's capacity to grasp and understand concepts.

For the record, I grew up in Jacksonville in a conservative Christian home and went to a conservative Christian school until sixth grade. I'm not some snooty Yank Liberal commie whatever.

It's plenty easy for a Christian dad of any race to say to his kid, "They love each other and are happy." The dad can then explain why he doesn't like homosexuality, because he believes the Bible clearly states homosexuality is a sin.

But the actual act of explaining a kiss is incredibly easy to explain and comprehend. It's probably far easier to explain that than to explain the concept of religious sin. But that's the father's choice, if he wants to teach his kid that.

Plus, for kids now, it's not going to be like it was when we were kids. Young kids and teenagers are more liable to be open with their homosexuality earlier. Kids are going to be exposed to open homosexuality at school or in public, whether a parent likes it or not. It's a conversation that every parents who doesn't care for homosexuality should prepare to have.

its sad but i know more kids that can grasp murder and drugs better than
they can two men kissing

As I said above, as someone who was raised in a conservative Christian house in the South, I can't imagine how my parents would have explained drugs or murder to me if I had asked. I'm sure I did ask, but I don't recall how they answered (maybe I'll ask). I don't even know how I would explain murder to a fellow adult-- it's just such a complex topic.

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kids are not as stupid as grown-ups tend to think they are.

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A lot of yall would rather us live in the shadows and in closets and in misery, just so yall don't have to explain our existence to your children. Well, your children gon' learn today lol. All of the work that black families put into keeping shit silent and unseen is toxic. It contributes to shame. And fuck that; neither Michael Sam nor the many LGBT children that your kids will soon meet at school, in the neighborhood, and on football teams have anything to be ashamed of.

I know it's comfortable to keep doing the things that your family has done for generations (which, in this case, is nothing). But it's time to let it go.

"sometimes when a nigga loves another nigga they be kissing each other"

"because they're gay" what's gay? "when two men be kissing"

"they don't like to kiss women" how come? "look it up on wikipedia"

*REALLY EXAGGERATED KANYE SHRUG*

etc
and
so on

tell em to take their ass outside & go play, somethings theyll understand better as adults

we got the game fucked up, kids be interrogating the parents, wtf. wish i would have fixed my face to ask my mama why or what for more than once back in the 80s


does it really matter?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I

Michael Sam is a good football player. I hope he makes the final cut this coming preseason and ball out.

lotta fake ass Mel Kipers who never saw him play were poppin off.

hints:
-he doesnt care about gay issues
-thinks he doesnt troll "gay themed" posts
-sadly miserable

Don't you have some flowers to pick or dresses to try on.

that retort would have killed in a middle school lunch room bro.

*Shrugs*

fuck no you wouldn't. your knees would buckle.

you went that route. Well no I wouldn't say in to his face, without being armed, dude would beat the shit out of me. But most niggas ain't Michael Sam is it?

it's just too brazen and 1984'ish to be for real.

I don't have an issue with gay dudes, but that nigga BB stay acting like a nancy boy.

I aint mean those comments toward all gay cats., just him.

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He is simply not that good at his position to play in the NFL - point blank period. And please don't confuse stats in NCAA Football as a direct guarantee for NFL Caliber ability. There have been plenty of NCAA Football All American and even Heisman Trophy winners that failed miserably in the NFL. Sam is just another media wreck waiting to happen.



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until you heard about him coming out. Fuck outta here. Dude is an outstanding situational pass rusher and he is certainly gonna get better and develop. He already improved his numbers from the combine to his pro day.

And the FACTS are stacked against him. So while people want the dude to succeed, he's no different than any other LATE 6th round draft pick trying to make an NFL team. The ODDS are against him.

honestly? Oh and I see you moving them goal posts. You just went from "he will get cut by the season opener" to the odds being stacked against him. Was your line name "Kaptain Obvious"? Of course the odds are stacked against a 7th rounder.

>honestly? Oh and I see you moving them goal posts. You just
>went from "he will get cut by the season opener" to the odds
>being stacked against him. Was your line name "Kaptain
>Obvious"? Of course the odds are stacked against a 7th
>rounder.


This is the fact, he's not going to make it two the NFL opening day. That's all that you need to know. And my point in this post is that he's below average as an NFL prospect. So, what's your gripe?

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Dwight Clark 249th
Donald Driver 213th
Richard Dent 203rd
Shannon Sharpe 192nd
Warren Moon undrafted
Kurt Warner undrafted
John Randle undrafted
Priest Holmes undrafted
Tony Romo undrafted
Nate Newton undrafted
Jeff Saturday undrafted
Arian Foster undrafted
Wes Welker undrafted
Rod Smith undrafted
Antonio Gates undrafted

There are plenty of examples of guys that are drafted 200th or later who became great NFL players, and even all-time great players.

There is nothing resembling a guarantee that Sam won't make a roster.

You want to talk about how the "odds" say he won't make it, okay fine, but the "odds" have been stacked against this kid from the jump.

Hell the "odds" in his own family say he should be dead or in jail.

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Sam is below avenge, but you an rock on that boat until you are sea sick. I know you want to see the underdog succeed, we all do. Hell, look at sorry Tbow and how everyone was fighting for him, but the truth was inevitable. He SUCKED as a QB and Sam is NOY good at his position. Deal with that fact.

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before he was even drafted.

And other people are moving the goalposts?

ever.

But yeah I'm the one moving goal post.

thank you for illustrating the point.

>Sam is NOY good at his position. Deal with that fact.

And you apparently don't know what a fact is.

Sam is undersized for an NFL defensive end. That's a fact.

You could make valid criticisms of his play (and scores of people have,) but you don't, you just throw out invective, because a) you don't know nearly as much as you think you do about football and b) you're a bitter bigot.

No, I can't predict the future. Stranger things have happened. But He's not gonna make it and I stand by that total ASSUMPTION.



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And you concede he has a shot to make it.

If you were that confident you'd take my money.

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of value on your opinion, which you stated as fact, with 100% certainty.

So yeah. It worked.

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I mean, there's a 7th round for a reason.

If nobody ever made it they wouldn't even bother with it

they are just that Good and were overlooked. Sam was not overlook. He was highly analyzed by the NFL. But hey, if he makes it to Final Roster I'll give him props.


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And if you knew anything about Football, you would know that fact.

I will hand you a box of tissue when he gets cut and then you and Sam can share some cake together.

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cut as a guarantee, I'd imagine you'd want to bet this at any odds, but all I want is 8-1.

My $20 against your $160, payable via Paypal when the St. Louis Rams finalize their season roster.

Nobody has said the odds aren't against him, but you want to beat your chest and guarantee he won't make a roster.

The odds are against everybody trying to make the NFL. If some kid from your church was drafted in the 7th round you'd be talking about what a great opportunity it is and how you hope he can make it, not talking about how it's a guarantee he gets cut.

put your money where your bigoted mouth is.

This aint bodog.

Case says it is a 100% FACT that Sam won't make the Rams roster.

He should be happy with 1-8. With his confidence in the event occurring he should be thrilled with 1-20.

I don't even bet and I know better.


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That should be pretty clear by now.

All of that rah rah you spitting. I said the dude is not an NFL talent at his position. He could make Special Teams. IDK. but at his position.. NO

I still be believe that he'll get cut.



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If you had any faith in your position you'd want to profit from it, but you don't.

I guarantee you he hasn't seen a quarter worth of Michael Sam snaps. I saw EVERY game, including two in person. The dude can play football, flat out. And the "he's too small" narrative is played, too. He's the same size as Elvis Dumervil...and I'm not even trying to say he's that good. Jeff Fisher can definitely find a place for Sam to fit in with all the defensive line talent they already have.

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There is a reason the last pick is called "Mr. Irrelevant"; there's only 4 players drafted last that even made the team they were drafted for.

This list is actually kinda short, considering tens of 1000s of players have been drafted since Warren Moon. I;m not saying he doesn't deserve a shot or he's not good, but it doesn't look good for him that he was drafted that low.

>Dwight Clark 249th
>Donald Driver 213th
>Richard Dent 203rd
>Shannon Sharpe 192nd
>Warren Moon undrafted
>Kurt Warner undrafted
>John Randle undrafted
>Priest Holmes undrafted
>Tony Romo undrafted
>Nate Newton undrafted
>Jeff Saturday undrafted
>Arian Foster undrafted
>Wes Welker undrafted
>Rod Smith undrafted
>Antonio Gates undrafted

that isn't close to exhaustive an exhaustive list. And those are legitimately GREAT players drafted around or below 200.

A list of 7th round or later players who became serviceable special teams players or better would be very long.

The odds are definitely against him, but it's foolish to act like it's impossible for him to make a roster, as Case is.

And if so why?

Regardless of what happens he still made history and y'all can't change that

A lot of sports heads hate seeing an average talent get superstar treatment.

If dude is a bust we will hear "its cause hes gay, bias, bigots, etc...

You want him to be treated equally yet you want him to get the love and fame of a first rounder.

Most of us are actually warning you not to get your hopes up. No different than Jason Collins.

I get why YOU guys are invested but wouldnt you like to have a good player as your pioneer? Shit seems a little odd...

I cant imagine Jackie Robinson looking like Michael Jordan struggling to hit a curve ball... yet being happy this was the first one to make it.

Still feels like a set up IMO... its feels forced.

Just last year, let's see what he actually does in the nfl, none of us has seen this yet.

He coulda went late in the draft for a lotta reasons, one of them being a team not wanting to deal with media circus

And he's getting a lot of media attention becuz this is a historic event, point blank

If he was that good, he would not have been taking in the 7TH ROUND!

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Had zero to do with his talent, like I literally just wrote that, ur dense as fuck

And that's why you're mad.


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please.

since suddenly you're Todd McShay when it involves someone gay.

In every post, this ain't a surprise lol but please don't let the fact that I don't post in ok sports fool u

The Fact is he's a 7th Round pick getting mad attention because he's a homosexual and that's the only reason you are all up on his name.

The facts is that you don't know crap about this matter and you are on the band wagon for this cat like he's a serious 1st Round pick with limitless potential.

So don't let the facts get in out way and your emotions stay in a bunch, but Sam is a NOT that good and he's NOT getting attention for his skill as a player and you know this.

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Players win college awards all the time. Tebow won the Hesiman and cant get on a team.

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>He coulda went late in the draft for a lotta reasons, one of
>them being a team not wanting to deal with media circus

if clowney woulda announced he was gay, texans wouldve still chose him
johnny manziel didn't get picked sooner because of his size and folks are scared his playing style won't jive well with NFL formations

mantei teo didn't get chosen early on because he got exposed in natl champship game
not because some catfishing and gay rumours
and to this day his ass is getting exposed in that 3-4 chargers setup


in college football only award that means ANYTHING is the HEISMAN
there are like two dozen other football awards nobody can tell u WTF they for


in college hoops there aint a single award anybody cares about
supposedly naismith is equivalent to heisman but nobody dont care about no damn naismith
it's all about final four and natl champ
that's it
too many one and dones in college hoops
shit lebron, kobe and KG aint even play college ball


i'm cool with dude being drafted
but it wasn't his skills that landed him the job
just like jason collins didn't get signed by brooklyn for his bball skills
collins aint played a single SECOND in the playoffs
mofos got INJURED and collins still aint get in the game

shameful

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Big day for rookies not drafted. 31 percent of active NFL players last year were not drafted as rookies. Also15 members of #ProFootballHOF.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRWcPoxmZos

is probably the deepest position on the Rams...

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/sam-could-fill-role-but-faces-tough-competition/article_87a9d13a-ff77-5750-ab12-e76176ea528d.html

http://www.nfl.com/videos/st-louis-rams/0ap2000000349459/Fisher-and-Snead-explain-why-they-drafted-Sam

White folks wouldn't have allowed no white boy to come out and out their men like that.

everyone coming out Black for some reason. but yall don't hear me.

shit's a plot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_Rogers

he came out in February 2013 and played his first game after coming out in May
you didn't hear about it because you (and most people in the US for that matter) don't give a shit about soccer

PROGRESS!!!

like well at least he aint the girl
i know thats wrong but
u cant be black, gay, in the league and bendin over for the white man
some shit cant just cant fly lol
no dis to the gay folk yall know what im sayin

Because I can't call it.

I bet further several dudes in the NFL - big, burly, 200 lb dudes, have gotten ram-rodded by melanin-deficient fellows.

At least, that's the conversation happening on my FB feed, which is dominated by educated Black people. No one is worried about the image of two men kissing -- the latest concern, fair or not, is that Michael Sam continues a long trend of famous Black men choosing white partners, and that Black gay athletes and musicians prefer to date men outside of their race.

so this doesn't really fit into the narrative
that you're trying to fit it in. He was with
that little white man in Missouri before anyone
know who he was.


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at the school level, the perception is that Black athletes
disproportionately mess with Beckies

b/w

there were several IR couples shown during the draft

whether coincidence or evidence of something else, I noticed

>so this doesn't really fit into the narrative
>that you're trying to fit it in.

You don't know what narrative I believe -- I said that the interracial thing is what some people are concerned about, not that I am one of them. However, I do find the discussion interesting.

>He was with that little white man in Missouri before anyone
>know who he was.

Considering he was SEC Defensive Player of the Year, I'm pretty sure people at Missouri knew who he was long before he entered the national spotlight. He was a popular athlete and therefore a hot commodity. Perhaps you wrote this before you saw me add the last part of my final sentence.

NFL prospects start early
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until now.

I only saw the "famous black men" - and while
Sam was an exceptional college talent, he wasn't
"famous" until a few months ago.

But I would definitely refer to you and others
who are in the know about the tendency of gay black
athletes to date outside of their race, as I really
have no experiential data on that. Would be interesting
to contrast the dynamics intra-sexual orientation to
see what the similarities/differences were there regarding
straight black men v. gay black men....I'm assuming your
data has yielded that regardless of orientation, black men
(whom are famous and/or prominent athletes) are dating outside
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>But I would definitely refer to you and others
>who are in the know about the tendency of gay black
>athletes to date outside of their race, as I really
>have no experiential data on that. Would be interesting
>to contrast the dynamics intra-sexual orientation to
>see what the similarities/differences were there regarding
>straight black men v. gay black men....I'm assuming your
>data has yielded that regardless of orientation, black men
>(whom are famous and/or prominent athletes) are dating
>outside
>of their race?

After the Michael Sam kiss, some of my black gay friends complained that "the more things change, the more things stay the same." I think they're right in that, with money and increased social capital often comes a desire to sexually cement the rise in status -- and black men seek that upgrade from both non-black women and non-black men. I've seen this play out with hetero black men, ranging from the rags-to-riches men in my family to the sports agent in my building who says he prefers his girls to be "anything but black."

I don't know that this is also true with Michael Sam. But I do know that there is a lack of visible intra-racial love among many of today's famous black queer men, and it makes some people wish there were more of a balance:

Michael Sam
Jason Collins (was with a white woman for several years)
Derrick Gordon (the D-1 bball player who recently came out)
Frank Ocean
Don Lemon
Jonathan Capehart
Shawn T

I am sure there are many prominent black gay men boo'ed up within their race.I just can't think of any off the top of my head lol :-/

I'm much less disturbed by Sam's relationship (considering I'm not disturbed by it at all) than I am by the conversations it sparked about the emotional and romantic capacity of those within our community. In a large Facebook group comprised of black gay men, so many of them have been rooting for Sam's relationship under the premise that the pool of decent gay black men who feel comfortable with their sexuality is small, making interracial dating necessary. Others claimed to date white folks because they "don't see race." There is still this myth that Black men are more homophobic and less eligible than their white counterparts, and that whiteness provides a safer landing for gay people of all races.

However, it's worth noting that most of the higher status black gay men I know personally -- scientists, bankers, consultants, academics -- mostly date black guys. So there seem to be different mating patterns between the black gay professionals found throughout Bed-Stuy, Harlem, and other urban areas and the black gay men who achieve popularity through sports or TV.

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that there was no Black ppl around him in that ROOM at all, like that was sad to me. congrats to him tho, hope he does well and proves a lot of ppl wrong

>that there was no Black ppl around him in that ROOM at all,
>like that was sad to me.

over my Boys.

I don't know if Sam plays DE or OLB but he gives them good depth and a situation pass rusher, especially if they flip to a hybrid 3-4 during the game.

he's too slow for Special Teams and that's where guys like him find a spot on the roster.

completely.

ya'll in here arguing over whether he'll make the squad or not, but there's no way to tell. instead of constantly projecting why not just say good luck. watch and see what happens cause you don't know, and you can't possibly predict at this point.
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not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pre

right after the draft? cmon fam... lol.

sexual innuendos go.

and his name rhymes with Ram so i'm sure he might as well get ready for those jokes. and not just from straight dudes trying to belittle him. i could see a gay comedian making all sorts of jokes about it.
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not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pre

they don't care if he plays in Canada or not, they just want the jersey sales.

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not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pre

ESPN od'd with that clip, they're showing it over and over and over and over again. Can't help but feel an agenda going on.

But anyway, we know how you're liberal and accepting, but what about your fam and close friends?

I think even those who are accepting of gays have a problem with that cake kiss because they dont know how to explain it to young children. Plus maybe they dont like that kind of PDA.

They love each other and they were happy, so they kissed.

Are people still afraid that seeing gay people will turn them gay in 2014? Is that still a thing? Cuz if so, the whole world will be gay by 2017.

You must not have a Child. Because your would not have let that come out your mouth.


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But yes, love is one of the easiest things for a child to grasp. The parent can then, if they choose, explain that they think homosexuality is a sin... but the motivation for two men to kiss is one that is incredibly easily explained.

And it's much much easier to explain than many other things children see and hear their NFL heroes doing, such as murder, sexual assault, and driving while drunk. Yet rarely do people pose those questions.

Since it's so easy to explain, tell he how you've explained it you your child?


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I'm too young and too unmarried to be having kids right now.

But I've worked with kids my whole life, from 5 year olds to college students. I've had to answer endless strings of questions from young children looking to me as their teacher for answers. So, yes, I have some idea of what concepts children can grasp.

If you don't want your kid exposed to gay people in 2014, then you need to keep all television, newspapers, magazines, books, and radios away from them until adulthood. I'm not trying to be funny, I'm being very very serious.

>I'm too young and too unmarried to be having kids right now.
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>But I've worked with kids my whole life, from 5 year olds to
>college students. I've had to answer endless strings of
>questions from young children looking to me as their teacher
>for answers. So, yes, I have some idea of what concepts
>children can grasp.

I used to think like you. I've been "raising kids" since I was ten years old. So for 25 years. That experience is NOTHING compared to have your OWN kids. I mean seeing them come out of the vaginal canal. Going through all those months of pregnancy (even as a father). And when they get here, the worry that your decisions that you make for them are PERMANENT. And you have "worked with" kids meaning you send them back to their parents for all that HARD shit. It's just different man. WAAAAAY different. And I've gotten in FIST FIGHTS with my sister(s) about how they raise my neice/nephews and would let their words of "these are MY kids" roll right over my head.

I now understand.

I don't give a fuck what NOBODY say, I raise my daughter the way I see best. Me alone. Me.




>If you don't want your kid exposed to gay people in 2014, then
>you need to keep all television, newspapers, magazines, books,
>and radios away from them until adulthood. I'm not trying to
>be funny, I'm being very very serious.

What makes gayness any more right or wrong than worshiping the devil or any other lifestyle that is shunned by society?
Why can't people say FUCK GAY PEOPLE without retribution?

Uh because it's a new day and we not havin it, that's why. Wtf kind of question is that?

I don't feel sorry for any parents who are angry about having to explain two men kissing to their children. People should stop raising shitty, homophobic kids. I actually think the kiss will turn out to be the best parental lesson ever.

acting like explaining gay love is simple is kind of disingenuous
it's obviously a tough discussion, especially if your kid has never been exposed to it and/or you don't agree with it

i'd never let my kids watch tv.
i don't think it's healthy. i think the images shown are inappropriate for children.


so if you don't want your kids to exposed to what's on tv,
do your job as a parent and throw away the fucking television.

how hard is that?



>it's obviously a tough discussion, especially if your kid has
>never been exposed to it and/or you don't agree with it

the whole "but the kids!" thing is just an easy position for ppl who oppose it to take
no one i know is even talking about this
was it shown on GMA or something?
how many kids are in the house on a spring Saturday watching day 3 of the NFL draft?
it's a tough discussion to have but i'm kinda doubting this how argument about it being damaging to kids simply because i'm doubting a large number of kids know about this

Once after seeing 3 guys in a Target dressed, walking, and talking like females, my son had the crazy look on his face Like WTF was that?! He was about 6 and it took a while to explain that mess to him. HIS NATURAL LOGIC couldn't be broken he was the on who said "Daddy that's not right."



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your kid is well on his way to adopting your world view.
tell me, do you let your children watch television?

if so, why?


>Once after seeing 3 guys in a Target dressed, walking, and
>talking like females, my son had the crazy look on his face
>Like WTF was that?! He was about 6 and it took a while to
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couldn't have anything to do with his being raised and conditioned in a heteronormative culture for his entire life.

reminds me of a little white girl i once saw at a restaurant point to a young black girl and call her "chocolate pudding baby."

Her natural logic couldn't be broken (whatever the fuck that means) to realize that something was wrong with the other child's skin.

Besides, it's not going to be the same for today's children as it was for anyone old enough to post here-- gay culture is far more widespread into the mainstream, and children are more likely to be out of the closet in school nowadays than ever before. Kids are going to find out what "gay" is far sooner, and they're far less likely to have consensus among their friends that it's weird and/or gross and/or immoral.

I'm not being ironic at all when I say parents who want their kid to not have to be exposed to gayness need to home school their kids and cut off anything that could deliver modern pop culture to the home. That's the only way a kid won't find out what gay is.

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and why are you letting your kids watch tv, anyway?
i don't think the images on television are appropriate for children,
so if i had a kid, i probably wouldn't have a tv in the house.

that's my decision as a parent.
you have the same ability.

it is your job, and nobody else's, to instill the values
you think are appropriate in your child.

Talking too much and being so wrong.

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keep up.

anyway... my point stands.
if you think the images on tv are unhealthy for a kid,
don't let them watch tv.

i don't think the images on tv are appropriate for children.
so if i had a kid, they wouldn't watch tv.

how is this hard to understand.
it's your job to raise your kid. not the media's.


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That mess came on ESPN without warning! What do you mean don't let your kids watch it.




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i don't think the images are appropriate for children.
if parents have a problem with what is being shown on tv,
they should be responsible parents and not let their children watch the idiot box.

it's simple as that.


>That mess came on ESPN without warning! What do you mean
>don't let your kids watch it.
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There is no more reason to even try in this conversation.

i don't think children should see it before a certain age.
my stance may change on this,
but i don't think it's healthy for little kids to watch it.

you may disagree, which is fine.
but if i were a parent, and i didn't want my child to see the stuff on tv,
i don't think it would be hard to prevent them for seeing it.

i went years without a tv in my house.
it's not THAT hard.


>There is no more reason to even try in this conversation.

>i don't think children should see it before a certain age.
>my stance may change on this,
>but i don't think it's healthy for little kids to watch it.
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>you may disagree, which is fine.
>but if i were a parent, and i didn't want my child to see the
>stuff on tv,
>i don't think it would be hard to prevent them for seeing it.
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>i went years without a tv in my house.
>it's not THAT hard.




you got a lot of "ifs" there buddy
until you become a parent
cant say shit
you may say "i will read to my child in english, spanish AND portuguese every night"
fuck around and see what happens when you put in 13hrs at the office
stuck in 2hrs traffic home
then nothing in the kitchen to cook for dinner

please tell me i misunderstood what you said.
a child can entertain themselves with a cardboard box for hours.

are you seriously telling me the kid would go crazy
if there wasnt a television in the house?
how could they miss it if they didn't get in the habit of watching it?

the fact that you conpared a kid going without tv
to a kid going without food is precisely why i don't think it's healthy
for kids to watch tv before they learn to think critically.

i mean...

wow.

just, wow.




>until you become a parent
>cant say shit
>you may say "i will read to my child in english, spanish AND
>portuguese every night"
>fuck around and see what happens when you put in 13hrs at the
>office
>stuck in 2hrs traffic home
>then nothing in the kitchen to cook for dinner
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even tho i thought i would prevent my child(ren) from watching tv or playing with iPods when they are young
kids as young as kindergarden are getting homework assignments due on computer and the internet

i used to watch tv.
and maybe i will soften my stance a bit over time.
(i don't necessarily want my kids to not see soul train and
MJ videos lol)

but for real-- if a parent is THAT concerned about having their kids exposed to
gay ppl before a certain age...
that parent needs to seriously consider not letting their kid watch tv...
and may even need to home school their child before a certain age.

because just like images that show white supremacy and mysogony
aren't going away, neither are images that show that gay ppl exist.
and if you don't want to have these conversations with your children,
it's on you-- as a parent-- to make sure your kids don't see these things.

not television programming directors.


>even tho i thought i would prevent my child(ren) from
>watching tv or playing with iPods when they are young
>kids as young as kindergarden are getting homework assignments
>due on computer and the internet

ain't normal..

and it ain't a teachable moment... or should I say it shouldn't be the moment where you have to explain 2 dudes being in love.

as i said, i wouldn't want my children to see television.
because i don't think the images on television are appropriate for children.

if you, as a parent, are too lazy or stupid to keep your kids
from seeing images that you feel children shouldn't see...
that's on you.

how hard is it to just not have tv in the house?
how hard is it to not allow your children visit the homes of ppl with televisions?
"no, you can't go and play at such and such's house. ask if they want to visit you here (were there is no television).

it's not the ESPN's program director's job to raise your fucking kid.

Nothing wrong with a peck or 2 but they were doing too much with the cake.

you can keep the tv in your bedroom,
and only watch it when the kids are not around.

you can hire a sitter, and go someplace else to watch tv.

there are any number of things you could have done to
prevent you child from seeing television if you don't feel
the images being broadcast are appropriate for children.

you really don't even HAVE to have a tv in your house.
but you let your kids watch tv. so that's what you get.

personally, i wouldn't let my children to see television.
because i don't think tv is appropriate for children.
that would be my decision as a parent.

you have the same right.
it's your job to be a responsible parent and monitor what your kids see.
if you refuse to do that because you wanna watch the draft-- that's on you.


> Nothing wrong with a peck or 2 but they were doing too much
>with the cake.
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i think watching tv before a certain age
can fuck up a kids development.

they'd be better off playing with some blocks
or making noise on a drum set
than sitting in front of a tv.

and besides that, i think the way black ppl,
women, and other minorities are portrayed on television
would be detrimental to a black child's psyche.

i wouldn't want them watch tv until they were old enough
to start thinking critically about the things they were seeing.

and it wouldn't be hard to outsmart a kid
and keep them from seeing television.


so tell me why it's wack to think
that parents that don't want to explain gay ppl to children
should take responsibility and keep tv away from their kids.

this reminds me of the moral arbiters wanting to censor eminem.
they always said, "but think of the children!"

and they never had a good explanation for
why their children were listening to eminem.

if you think your 9 yr old is incapable of understanding
that eminem records are not pure acts of advocacy,
if your 9 yr old can't understand that marshal mathers--the person, is not the same as eminem-- the artist, is not the same as slim shady--the persona,
if your 9 yr old is not sophisticated enough to understand
irony, rabble rousing, and the mythilogical archetype of the trickster...

then maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't let your kid listen to eminem albums.
"don't blame me if little Eric throws himself over the terrace. apparently, you ain't parents."



if your kid can't understand what gay is,
and you don't want to explain it...
don't let them watch tv.

nobody-- not you, not case one, nobody,
has explained why it's reasonable to expect a television to
parent their children in accordance with their values.

No one is saying a TV should parent a child...

seriously.
"what do i tell my children?"

it's your kid.
You let then watch tv.

you figure it out.

>No one is saying a TV should parent a child...
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>They love each other and they were happy, so they kissed.

That is why they kissed, yes?

>That is why they kissed, yes?


So you are not telling Kids that when people kiss that mean that they are in love? You know how to explain love to a child too? Do you know that kids can't think in abstracts?

DO you know how crazy you sound?




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Yes, when I was a kid, if two people kissed, they loved each other. That's how my conservative Christian parents raised me. It's oversimplified, the same way nearly every original lesson is that a kid is taught in school or at home.

It doesn't matter if it's true, it's a good lesson for kids to learn. Kissing is an expression of love, not meant to be done with just anybody. It's not true, but it's a nice direction to point a kid in-- at least, that's why I assume my conservative Christian parents taught me that.

This ain't about faith. I have been trained and schooled on teaching children and I'm a parent. What you said is so basic and off, that I had to address it. You cannot assume that telling kids that when people kiss they love each other and think that lazy explanation will work.

Kids only think in structure. black and white, good and bad. Not abstract.

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But I'm gonna bow out of this post as we don't see eye to eye on this.

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but some of this bullshit just isn't worth it.

like people thinking two men kissing is hard to explain to kids or is an awful thing to see on tv.

No point in trying to explain the wonders of the illiad to the illiterate.

then they shouldn't let their kids watch tv.
problem solved.




>>They love each other and they were happy, so they kissed.
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Seriously. I respect you very much on a lot of things, because I think you are very intelligent. Real Talk. Even if I've never said it.

But on this matter and with you solution, you need to stop.


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when i think about the way tv impacted me,
i wonder if it was healthy.

i wouldn't want my kid watching tv until they had at least started to develop
their own critical thinking skills.

i don't like the way black ppl are typically portrayed on tv.
i don't like the way women are typically portrayed on tv.
i don't like the way new chanel's and talk shows frame matters of national and local interest.

i don't like the portrayal of cops, the military, foreign countries,
or minorities on tv.

i don't like most of the music i hear, or most of the videos i see.
and i think that putting a black child (especially a black girl)
plopping a black child front of a TV set would lower their self esteem,
give them an ideal standard of beauty that doesn't look like them,
and encourage them to accept assumptions about themselves and the world
that i don't think black children should accept.

maybe i'd let them watch soul train and michael jackson videos lol.

but seriously, i don't think it would be difficult to keep a television
away from my child. one of the first steps would be to not have a tv in the house (which i didn't have for many years.)


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you doing dos muchos with this tv shit
and yes, parents do want a fucking break from nonstop parenting
yes, we realise we chose to have these kids
but sometimes, all you need is FIVE MINUTES to regroup
because you have literally been up FIVE DAYS around the clock with said child

again, until you have kid(s) and go through it
u shouldn't speak on the shit
kinda like folks that never been married trying to speak on marriages

these are two things u REALLY dont know until you've experienced them

i don't want to have kids because being a parent is hard work,
and i don't know if i'm up for the job.

so this part, i understand.
it's a large part of the reason i don't want kids.

>and yes, parents do want a fucking break from nonstop
>parenting
>yes, we realise we chose to have these kids
>but sometimes, all you need is FIVE MINUTES to regroup
>because you have literally been up FIVE DAYS around the clock
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still...
reply #272 and #269.


if you feel it is THAT important for your child
to not know that gay people exist before a certain age...
that's on you.

not the program director of whatever show you put in
front of your kid.

Toilets dont. Clothes dont. Jobs dont. Sharing. Reading. Cleaning up. That's why they're little children...they need to learn and grow. And sometimes adults gotta help by explaining shit.

People are at their shittiest when they hit those plateaus where they think they got it all figured out (two, teens, most adults). It's a gift to live in a world where you're still learning that other people are different and find joy in different things. Its a gift to keep having questions to ask.

Even if you disagree with Sam's kiss, if you can't explain it to a kid....then the kid's exposing where you need to learn and grow.

>Even if you disagree with Sam's kiss, if you can't explain it to a kid....then the kid's exposing
>where you need to learn and grow.

Like kids are born with an innate belief that only men and women kiss or some shit.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12442237&mesg_id=12442237&page=2#12444123

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YA FINGERS TOO!

Cause you know it's coming

The whole Football world was talking about Sam. He's an undersized 7th round pick that fell to the 7th round for reason. Stop acting like non of that matters.


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On every topic, from game of thrones to soul food, how many 300 plus post are u involved back and froths in, that's just u and ur stupidity

Dude you love Drama. It's in your nature if you tell us right.


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"But what do I tell my kids" is such a fucking cop-out. Shifting the lack of understanding onto them like it's their problem.

Here's the thing about kids: they don't know shit about shit. They ask questions about EVERYTHING.

Kids look in the sky and ask about stars, but you're not Neil DeGrasse Tyson. You answer in terms they can understand and move on. You don't go yelling "Oh nooo, how do I explain astrophysics to my 5 year old!!" It's not a big deal.

You assuming that telling them that gay people exist will shatter their minds is your problem, not theirs.

And lets be honest, you just don't want to tell your kids about gay people because you're scared they'll see it as an option and it will "turn" them gay. Stop pretending it's a child's comprehension issue, when it's an ignorant adult one.

then that's your problem, not theirs, not Michael Sam's, and not gay peoples'. It's YOU.

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>And lets be honest, you just don't want to tell your kids
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>option and it will "turn" them gay. Stop pretending it's a
>child's comprehension issue, when it's an ignorant adult one.

Preach!

changed about in regards to his performance in the preseason?

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2361369&mesg_id=2361369&page=2

but somebody will pick him up this season. He is NFL ready. I'm rooting for him.

i think he CAN make a team in the NFL
just not THIS team
why?
they have too many *better* players than him at his position
he need to go to the cowboys or bengals or jaguars
stay away from the texans and cowboys and chiefs

He wasn't the first cut so we know he's not a bum... yet.

He's NFL slow but is now regarded as third down pass rush specialist project. Wherever he ends up is a good look for him. Take this year and follow the Mike Herzlich plan. In other words, use this season to get better, study, and learn. If all goes well he could move up the depth chart assuming a needy time doesn't sign him and push him into the starting lineup quickly.

Then sign him ti practice squad.

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Mike simply lost the numbers game to a guy who was way more versatile and had a ton more upside.

>Mike simply lost the numbers game to a guy who was way more
>versatile and had a ton more upside.

They only kept 9 defensive linemen. What don't you understand about that?

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there are what 45 men that suit up each sunday?
and 8 that wear track suits
he couldnt even earn a track suit
just say he wasnt good enough and that we was right and move on

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he never attempted to play ST. Wasn't even a thing, ever. He did not play ONE SINGLE SNAP on ST. NOT ONE. That wasn't even on the table.

Most Rookies Play ST anyway.

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no one gets drafted as "Special Teams" position
what happens is
if your skills at your designated position are iffy
but the team still likes you and wants to keep you around
you'll get stuck on practice squad
then for some reason they need to call you up to the 45-man roster
in order to earn your check
they will put you on ST until you MIGHT be able to get in for garbarge time

some dudes only see kickoff action
some dudes only do extra points

i think the rams knew the outcome of this before they even drafted ddue and punked him
the rams used Sam and he dont e.n.o. it

>no one gets drafted as "Special Teams" position

Really?

Kickers? Punters?

They're not considered ST?

>>no one gets drafted as "Special Teams" position
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Who gets drafted as PLACE KICK HOLDER???

Who gets drafted as LONG SNAPPER?

Who gets drafted as RANDOM ASS GUY DURING KICKOFF?

>>>no one gets drafted as "Special Teams" position
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Did I really make you that "mad"? You stated, "no one gets drafted as "Special Teams" position". That is not true. I pointed it out as being false. Kickers and punters are *Specifically* drafted as Special Teams. Never once did I mention place kick holder, long snapper, or random ass guy during kickoff. Yes, those specific positions are held by players that are backups for other positions, e.g., offensive line, cornerback, etc. I am not saying you are wrong there. But, what you stated "no one gets drafted as "Special Teams" position", is factually wrong.

because REAL football folk know what the fuck i was talkin about about not splitting hairs you dipshit
on the kickoff, name the position of the other 10 players on the kicking team besides the PK?

nobody gets drafted SPECIFICALLY for those other ten slots, dumbass
who gets drafted as "field goal kick holder"?
usually it is a 2nd/3rd string QB that does that

just stop man.
stop being obtuse.

>Did I really make you that "mad"? You stated, "no one gets
>drafted as "Special Teams" position". That is not true. I
>pointed it out as being false. Kickers and punters are
>*Specifically* drafted as Special Teams. Never once did I
>mention place kick holder, long snapper, or random ass guy
>during kickoff. Yes, those specific positions are held by
>players that are backups for other positions, e.g., offensive
>line, cornerback, etc. I am not saying you are wrong there.
>But, what you stated "no one gets drafted as "Special Teams"
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>because REAL football folk know what the fuck i was talkin
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>on the kickoff, name the position of the other 10 players on
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>nobody gets drafted SPECIFICALLY for those other ten slots,
>dumbass
>who gets drafted as "field goal kick holder"?
>usually it is a 2nd/3rd string QB that does that
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>stop being obtuse.
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>>Did I really make you that "mad"? You stated, "no one gets
>>drafted as "Special Teams" position". That is not true. I
>>pointed it out as being false. Kickers and punters are
>>*Specifically* drafted as Special Teams. Never once did I
>>mention place kick holder, long snapper, or random ass guy
>>during kickoff. Yes, those specific positions are held by
>>players that are backups for other positions, e.g.,
>offensive
>>line, cornerback, etc. I am not saying you are wrong there.
>>But, what you stated "no one gets drafted as "Special Teams"
>>position", is factually wrong.


The Chicago Bears selected Patrick Mannelly in the sixth round (189th overall) of the 1998 draft. Mannelly played four years as a long snapper and two years on offensive line while at Duke. The Bears drafted him (that's right, you guessed it) *Specifically* as a Long Snapper (Special Teams). A 16 year veteran that consisted of 245 games (only missed 11), Mannelly's 2,282 career snaps were solely as a Long Snapper (Special Teams). Mannelly never played a single snap in his 16 year career on either offense or defense.

http://voices.suntimes.com/sports/the-end-of-an-era-patrick-mannellys-top-five-plays-as-the-bears-long-snapper/

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-06-21/sports/ct-patrick-mannelly-biggs-bears-spt-0622-20140622_1_pat-mannelly-patrick-mannelly-steve-mcmichael


I must have missed the meeting that all the REAL football folk (whatever that is seriously supposed to mean) attended, that discussed the definitions of what is or isn't *Special Teams*. I guess I need to brush up on my football knowledge now that I know Kickers and Punters are not a part of *Special Teams* going by your REAL football smarts "no one gets drafted as "Special Teams" position".

You think I am being obtuse. That was not my intention. That does not stop the fact that what you wrote was incorrect. You made a statement that I found to be inaccurate and only wanted to point it out.

you realise FULLBACKS would make up damn near HALF of the draft picks in them years, right?
in the last three years how many fullbacks been drafted?

just stop trying to be right.
how bout this, we agree that NEITHER of us are right, OK?

nygga goes back two decades, pre Y2K bug, when the WTC was still standing to try and prove some shit

I would say Patrick Mannelly is a pretty recent case study. 16 years in the NFL and not one snap played on offense or defense. <====Address this point please since you said "no one gets drafted as "Special Teams" position". Mannelly just retired this summer. It's ok to admit you are wrong, the sky will not fall, the world will not end.

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but jerry's conservative old ass won't have him
he is actually good enough for cowboys
but jerry wont allow that

I remember that Cowboys dynasty had everything that makes conservatives cringe.

Josh Brent killed a teammate and still has the support of some of his teammates.

If Jerry is serious about winning then he should give Mike Sam a look.

>If Jerry is serious about winning then he should give Mike Sam
>a look.


Mike aint a fuckin winner
He aint even a factor to contributing to a win
If he was, NINE other men wouldn't have beat him out for a roster spot

Every successful NFL team has them. Mike warrants another look IS ALL I'M SAYING. He's a co-SEC defensive player of the year so of course Jerruh should sign him if he's serious about winning.

cmon man i think for myself

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2361369&mesg_id=2361369&listing_type=search#2361431

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>but jerry's conservative old ass won't have him
>he is actually good enough for cowboys
>but jerry wont allow that

that Dallas should draft him because "their defense sucks balls"

then I realized that it could be read as something other than "The Dallas Cowboys defense is exceptionally horrible and they let go of their aging, but still best pass rusher"

but yeah.

Dallas.

If Jerruh didn't eat da poo poo it would have been done

the gay agenda had the media in its back pocket
to make it impossible to cut Michael Sam.

except they did cut Michael Sam.
so so much for that theory.



What else?

oh yeah.

some ppl don't know what to tell their children about
Michael Sam existing in the NFL draft and being gay at the same time.
Any initial reports on how many children turned into fags
having seen Michael Sam kiss a human being that wasn't a different gender than him?


And finally, we learned that since some ppl in the league may not have been ready
for a fag in the locker room, we learned that Michael Sam should have either
continued to be closeted or should have...

i dunno.

not tried out for the team?
waited until christians figured out what to tell their kids about faggots?


hmmm.
i don't know what we were supposed to learn from that.
but anyway, i suppose it doesn't matter.

he got cut anyway LOL.

and nobody in this post cares that he's gay.
nope. not in the least bit.

we learned that too.

And that Sam was not as good as y'all wanted him to be and the system proved that fact.

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i actively don't give a damn about professional sports.
i was in this multi-platinum post reacting to idiots
losing their shit because 2 dudes kissed on television.

and also, i reacted to ppl saying "the shield isn't ready,"
as if there is anything michael sam could or should do about that.
all of that talk reminded me of folks that said gays shouldn't be out in the military
because a bunch of phobes in the hypermasculine environment
weren't ready to deal.

i will let ppl that know sports the way i know music talk about whether Sam
is good enough to play in the NFL, or whether
he'd be an asset to another NFL team.





>And that Sam was not as good as y'all wanted him to be and
>the system proved that fact.
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>i actively don't give a damn about professional sports.
>i was in this multi-platinum post reacting to idiots
>losing their shit because 2 dudes kissed on television.
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>and also, i reacted to ppl saying "the shield isn't ready,"
>as if there is anything michael sam could or should do about
>that.
>all of that talk reminded me of folks that said gays shouldn't
>be out in the military
>because a bunch of phobes in the hypermasculine environment
>weren't ready to deal.
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>i will let ppl that know sports the way i know music talk
>about whether Sam
>is good enough to play in the NFL, or whether
>he'd be an asset to another NFL team.
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>>And that Sam was not as good as y'all wanted him to be and
>>the system proved that fact.
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i talked about idiot parents that were clutching their pearls
because two dudes kissed on tv.

if i was a parent that had those concerns,
I'd be far less reckless about letting my kid watch tv.


and i know a dumb argument when i see it.
nothing was said here that wasnt said about queers in a warzone.

and I've done that. That's how i know it was stupid.


>and go listen to your Kool Moe Dee Records
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btw, it's well known i don't really like rap music.
keep up.

>>i actively don't give a damn about professional sports.
>>i was in this multi-platinum post reacting to idiots
>>losing their shit because 2 dudes kissed on television.
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>>and also, i reacted to ppl saying "the shield isn't ready,"
>>as if there is anything michael sam could or should do about
>>that.
>>all of that talk reminded me of folks that said gays
>shouldn't
>>be out in the military
>>because a bunch of phobes in the hypermasculine environment
>>weren't ready to deal.
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>>i will let ppl that know sports the way i know music talk
>>about whether Sam
>>is good enough to play in the NFL, or whether
>>he'd be an asset to another NFL team.
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>>>And that Sam was not as good as y'all wanted him to be and
>>>the system proved that fact.
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>i talked about idiot parents that were clutching their pearls
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>because two dudes kissed on tv.
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>if i was a parent that had those concerns,
>I'd be far less reckless about letting my kid watch tv.
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>and i know a dumb argument when i see it.
>nothing was said here that wasnt said about queers in a
>warzone.
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>and I've done that. That's how i know it was stupid.
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>>and go listen to your Kool Moe Dee Records
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>btw, it's well known i don't really like rap music.
>keep up.
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>>>i actively don't give a damn about professional sports.
>>>i was in this multi-platinum post reacting to idiots
>>>losing their shit because 2 dudes kissed on television.
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>>>and also, i reacted to ppl saying "the shield isn't ready,"
>>>as if there is anything michael sam could or should do
>about
>>>that.
>>>all of that talk reminded me of folks that said gays
>>shouldn't
>>>be out in the military
>>>because a bunch of phobes in the hypermasculine environment
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>>>weren't ready to deal.
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>>>i will let ppl that know sports the way i know music talk
>>>about whether Sam
>>>is good enough to play in the NFL, or whether
>>>he'd be an asset to another NFL team.
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>>>>the system proved that fact.
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do my opinions even matter?
does anything even matter?

on a message board?

chill.

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don't mind me.

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who knows why.

Who won't put his money where is dumb ass mouth is.

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http://cinesport.philly.com/philadelphia-sports/st-louis-rams-cut-michael-sam/

He may not have made the Rams team, but that doesn't mean he will not make any other NFL team. I reallywanted him to make the team and glad he was given the opportunity to compete for a roster spot. My guess is that the Rams will sign him to their practice squad, provided he isn't picked up in waivers by someone else. I wouldn't mind if he went up north and played in the CFL, honed his skills and came back to the NFL a couple of years from now. He will be alright...

Some guys get cut 3 or 4 years before finding a spot on a team.

Sam's biggest problem is not playing ST's... every late rounder or UDFA plays ST's.

Its a long season and guys get injured. If he makes the practice squad and a DL goes down he may see the field. All it takes is one sack or forced fumble in crunch time to make a name for himself as a legit player.

And it takes more (or less) than a single sack or TD to be kept on a roster.
You can be sorry as sand and have a working relationship with a coach and be kept on.
Or you can do very well in preseason but not mesh well and be cut (ie Desean Jackson)

I put my money on it that he will be on a payroll before Halloween.

No need to address the rest of your post because you can't read

desean was a VERIFIED performer
he was cut because of his bad additude

do you even watch sports?
who the fuck cuts a top 5 WR in the NFL because of $12M
what jimmy graham contract lookin like?

http://articles.philly.com/2014-04-30/sports/49497080_1_desean-jackson-vincent-jackson-howie-roseman

but soon as you leave
imma be talkin again

>but soon as you leave
>imma be talkin again

lol

...of sticking around on a roster. The Rams is stacked at that position & Sam could be a much needed depth addition for a squad that needs a pass rusher.
He stays on his hustle he'll earn a permanent spot somewhere.

Rams knew they already had who they wanted on the squad
and drafted an even BETTER prospect than Sam in the same draft
so it's whatevs.


>...of sticking around on a roster. The Rams is stacked at
>that position & Sam could be a much needed depth addition for
>a squad that needs a pass rusher.

what new DL guys did the rams invite to training camp that beat Mike out?
Donald was a 1st round pick
damn near Top 10 pick
Westbrooks got the invite.
Who else?

it came down to Sam or Westbrooks. Westbrooks is tons more versatile and as more upside. The other 8 D-linemen...Mike had ZERO chance of supplanting. Long, Quinn, Brockers, Donald, Sims, Carrington, Langford and Hayes...they were making the team. Period.

There were only 9 DL slots to begin with
I'm sure STL knew how many they were keeping BEFORE THE DRAFT even happened
So they went into the draft and picked up Donald at #13
then grabbed Sam with the very last pick
all the while, inviting Westbrooks to camp
Now, that Westbrooks move was disingenuous because they prolly figured he'd beat Sam out anyway.
But, they still gave it a go.
And Sam lost.
So, it's not that Sam lost 1 of 9 slots.
There was only ONE slot left
that slot was left for Sam and Westbrooks to dook it out for
Westbrooks one
#13 pick overall was a SHOE-IN for his spot

all this shit is gonna come down to now is how good of an agent Sam has
every GM has seen what he can do at the NFL level now
so it is up to the agent to convince a GM to at least pick the man up on practice squad

at this point,
Sam will bounce around from team to team on 5 day contracts Wednesday to Monday.


>it came down to Sam or Westbrooks. Westbrooks is tons more
>versatile and as more upside. The other 8 D-linemen...Mike
>had ZERO chance of supplanting. Long, Quinn, Brockers,
>Donald, Sims, Carrington, Langford and Hayes...they were
>making the team. Period.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/michael-sam-appears-to-be-unclaimed--could-sign-with-rams--practice-squad-163456481.html

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fucking moron

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i am, at least in part, a product of the public education system.
i've not found that ppl with a private education are any smarter than me.

but i have found that CERTAIN people dislike public education,
and think that only SOME of us are entitled to get an education,
and are doing everything in their power to starve the public education system
so that it doesn't work at all.

and here you go,
taking pop shots at public education just for LOLs.
smh.


yes, this has nothing to do with the OP.
but this post can't get any stupider so why not.
go HAM.

>http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/michael-sam-appears-to-be-unclaimed--could-sign-with-rams--practice-squad-163456481.html

Dude got cut and it seems like everyone is celebrating it. His play during the season warrants a further look from some team at some point during his time in the NFL. I can admit I was wrong about dude when I called him NFL slow because at the combine he was NFL slow. However, his performance during the preseason changed my mind. He can flourish if he's in the right environment. There's always Canada.

I'm not sure what position he will play in the league. However, his tape looks aight.

Either way, y'all gloating a little bit too much. I'm talking about Case and the rest of y'all out-the-woodwork-ass niggas. I see y'all "thug element" dudes in here. Speaking of thug element, I'm waiting for the breakdown because we know dude is coming with something that will make our heads explode.

First off, I do believe EYE had to check your punkass when u said he was "sorry"
You was shitting on Sam extra hard but I came to rescue him from you.
Do ya googles nigga!

I don't know what them other cats is on but I'm on this whole glorification of dude. He got cut.
So what.
So be it.
My relative been getting cut from practices squads for two seasons now.
It don't be 400 post discussions about him nor the hundreds of other folk that don't make rosters.
Again, if Sam was as good as Clowney or Manziel, we would not be having this discussion.

Remember, preseason moves at 3/4 or 5/6 the real NFL season.
As it is mostly 2nd and 3rd string dudes out there.
And he was "meh" during pre-season so during the season going up against prime grade players he will be TOAST


It sucks that we're even having these lengthy ass discussions about a very late 7th round pick that was iffily marginal at best before the pre-season started and he showed and proved his iffyness during pre-season.

you sound like you dont even watch football.
just 3 weeks ago you was shittin on Sam something fierce, now you wanna be his Gloria Allred

>First off, I do believe EYE had to check your punkass when u
>said he was "sorry"
>You was shitting on Sam extra hard but I came to rescue him
>from you.
>Do ya googles nigga!

He was (technically is sorry due to not making a roster) sorry. He's NFL slow. YES, I FUCKING SAID IT. I'm right about that fuckouttahere. Check out a book at a library. He's a situational pass rusher AT BEST in his current defensive scheme. His talent might be better suited towards linebacker in another scheme.
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>I don't know what them other cats is on but I'm on this whole
>glorification of dude. He got cut.
>So what.
>So be it.
>My relative been getting cut from practices squads for two
>seasons now.
>It don't be 400 post discussions about him nor the hundreds of
>other folk that don't make rosters.
>Again, if Sam was as good as Clowney or Manziel, we would not
>be having this discussion.

Now, you are talking some sense. I was wondering what that first shit was about. At the same time you were the dude that compared Sam to Warren Moon so don't act like you didn't join the hype train. YOU SAID IT BRUH. Do your googles nigga. You came through with that Kanye hyperbole round this bitch.

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>Remember, preseason moves at 3/4 or 5/6 the real NFL season.
>As it is mostly 2nd and 3rd string dudes out there.
>And he was "meh" during pre-season so during the season going
>up against prime grade players he will be TOAST
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>It sucks that we're even having these lengthy ass discussions
>about a very late 7th round pick that was iffily marginal at
>best before the pre-season started and he showed and proved
>his iffyness during pre-season.
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>you sound like you dont even watch football.
>just 3 weeks ago you was shittin on Sam something fierce, now
>you wanna be his Gloria Allred

I'm shitting on the dudes GLOATING ABOUT THIS. I watch far, far, far, far, more football than you. Do you watch film of FBS football games looking for QBs, wide receivers, and offensive lineman prospects? YOU NOT QUESTIONING MY FOOTBALL CRED BRUH.

Once again, I'm shitting on the dudes that are GLOATING over this situation. I was on record as saying Sam is meh at best. However, I'M NOT FUCKING GLOATING over him getting cut and no one picking him up.

>Now, you are talking some sense. I was wondering what that
>first shit was about. At the same time you were the dude that
>compared Sam to Warren Moon so don't act like you didn't join
>the hype train. YOU SAID IT BRUH. Do your googles nigga. You
>came through with that Kanye hyperbole round this bitch.


i said he need to be like moon and mike jones "first they didn't want me, know they all up on me".
if the NFL don't want Sam, he needs to take his talents to Canada
that's all
i got a relative that flamed out in the NFL after 3 seasons
he been in canada the last 6 seasons...BEASTING
CFL is not NFL, but that shit is a faaaaar cry from the Sioux Falls Storm

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>It sucks that we're even having these lengthy ass discussions
>about a very late 7th round pick that was iffily marginal at
>best before the pre-season started and he showed and proved
>his iffyness during pre-season.
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you may want to ask it to some of the people that blew this post up.
like the guy that didn't know how tell his children that a gay dude
got drafted.

or the dude that didn't understand why some people were
happy that an openly gay dude had been drafted for the first time in the
history of the NFL.

or the dude that didn't understand why Michael Sam's story is a bit of a tear jerker,
after knowing that his siblings are dead and his family disowned him
but he somehow made good instead of becoming a statistic.

because when i scroll up, that's the stuff that blew up this post.


you may want to ask the people that said those dumb things
why they were so focused on this one draft pick.

because if you remove the reponses to those dumb comments from this thread,
and keep it strictly about football, stats, and stuff that most regular ppl
can't even have a conversation about...

this post doesn't even go plat in GD.


so that's a good question you asked.
it'd be good to hear some answers to it, but i doubt anybody
will be willing to articulate one, though.

First Take was saying that the Cowboys have the worst DL in the league and should have signed Sam
but they hearing from inside sources that NOBODY in the league wants to be part of the ESPN spectacle that has been created..
too much hoopla.
NOBODY.
who wants to answer questions about who is showering with whom int he locker room?

don't most players soak in the hot tub with each other after practices and games?
i KNOW groups of them go chase skirts together in their off time.
So, how is Sam able to join in on these "bonding" moments?
He is alienating himself from the rest of the crew.

Waiting to take a shower after everyone else has taken one?
Hmmmm, self-created second class citizen bullshit.
He shoulda let his nuts hang, got them 8 inches ROCK HARD then paraded all up in the showers and dropped the soap!

Canada's seasons has already been going for about a month.
Maybe Mike's agent can weasel him a spot up there then he can retool and try the NFL again next year?

That gay shit is out the window.
Right now, that nigga just "sorry".
Yes he is better than everybody on OKP
but as far as his roided up peers in the NFL
he sorry

And I'm sorry, but not all sacks are created equal just as not all interceptions are created equal.

time for brunch.

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Since when is the PS an accomplishment for and All Star SEC player that was Drafted?


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that's a contributing factor, i think.
ppl might pay less attention if you ppl would
shut the fuck up about what a big deal it's not.

>that's a contributing factor, i think.
>ppl might pay less attention if you ppl would
>shut the fuck up about what a big deal it's not.

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>He brought the attention on himself.
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you ppl have not been able to focus on
anything else since he said it.

no matter how much he tries to steer the conversation away from that,
you ppl refuse to focus on anything else.

so much so that ESPN actually did a segment
about how and where and when the dude takes a shower.

i swear, you ppl talk about gay ppl more than
gay ppl do.

it's fucking weird.

it is one of the strangest thing on earth to me.
i can't understand it at all.

And all that kissing and cake mess when he was drafted in the late 7th round. Man please. This dude played into and played up all the Hype.

Practice SQUAD!


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how many ppl would have batted an eye if he had kissed a woman like this?
would ppl have wondered what to tell their children?

but he kissed a guy.
so now some christians are upset they have to explain to their kids that faggots exist.

you ppl make shit matter that shouldn't,
and then you can't understand why some ppl were rooting for him to make it.

and then you LOL when he doesn't,
because that's exactly what jesus would do in this situation.


well done, fellow christian soldier.

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Playa, here is the facts. Sam made his sexuality the focal point. No one else did that. He did.


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why are you still posting about a dude on the practice squad.

>Playa, here is the facts. Sam made his sexuality the focal
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I've seen men cry
I've seen siblings flash gang signs (little somoan chick)
I've seen dudes fishing with family...

but I aint never seen a cake smash while slobbing their woman down.

but ppl forgot about it moments later, because it's not a big deal.

>I've seen men cry
>I've seen siblings flash gang signs (little somoan chick)
>I've seen dudes fishing with family...
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>but I aint never seen a cake smash while slobbing their woman
>down.

I seriously doubt that shit.

i didn't even see THIS draft.
i saw a post where ppl were worried about what to tell their precious children
about the fag they saw kissing on tv.

i have seen straight couples do that cake smashing thing in real life though.
i think it's corny, but i wouldn't be in a state of confusion about what to
tell my kids, though.

because i'm not an idiot, and i would assume my kids wouldn't be either.

2 people kissed.
it's not complicated, or even noteworthy.

yet, we have this post.

I know you love the attention but this topic is about Gay Sam playing in the NFL.

i never once claimed to be a genius football analyst.
never once have i talked about a stat, sam's chances, or any of that.

but i have seen some very dumb things written in this post.

about the children seeing a gay.
about not getting why anybody cares about his life.
i could go on.


i don't have to know football in depth
to call bullshit on that stuff.

it's clearly dumb.

that should have been irrelevant to him coming out to his friends (i think his family disowned him)
now that it's coming out that dude isn't that good it undermines the whole thing and makes it look like he mostly benefited off the exposure

>that should have been irrelevant to him coming out to his
>friends (i think his family disowned him)
>now that it's coming out that dude isn't that good it
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>that should have been irrelevant to him coming out to his
>friends (i think his family disowned him)
>now that it's coming out that dude isn't that good it
>undermines the whole thing and makes it look like he mostly
>benefited off the exposure
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if it's so awesome, why aren't straight ppl doing it for attention?

does it ever occur to you ppl that ppl come out because they are sick
of dodging every question about whether they are seeing somebody
and redacting excerts from even the most mundane aspects of their weekend
or worrying about who sees them walking into a gay club
or trying to guess at who knows and who suspects

and maybe, just maybe, it's easier to just come out and tell ppl
rather than deal with you ppl's prying eyes... constantly trying to guess
at who's suspect, and who's on the DL, and who
is not as straight as they appear?





and besides, the idea that he needed to be a perfect player
was always beside the point.

equality isn't when exceptional minorities get to get to be in the NFL.
equality is when average players can be in it too.

i know there is progress in terms of the number of black quarterbacks
because there are enough black quarterbacks for some of them to suck.

that's equal.

he held a press conference, had a weeks worth of interviews, and had a reality tv show crew on deck
if he wasn't at least *good* there was going to be backlash and questions surrounding the amount of attention he garnered
sorry :(
happened to straight tim tebow
happened to jeremy bloom when he played for the eagles
happened to mike sam

>he held a press conference, had a weeks worth of interviews,
>and had a reality tv show crew on deck
>if he wasn't at least *good* there was going to be backlash
>and questions surrounding the amount of attention he garnered

why did he garner attention?
whether a person is gay or not is an inherently boring conversation.

there's just nothing interesting about that.
some ppl are, most ppl aren't.

but it can't just be matter of fact with you ppl.
you ppl always have an endless amount of questions.

if you answer them, you are "putting it in ppl's face."
if you are dismissive, you are a "condescending asshole."
if you hide it, ppl wonder about your personal life and you are "suspect."

so eventually you learn the only way to answer these questions is "fuck you, too."

but back to your point, him saying he was gay
was only a big deal because you ppl can't focus on
anything else once those words are said.

i swear, you ppl think about gay topics more than me.
nobody has ever explained why.

can you?






>sorry :(
>happened to straight tim tebow
>happened to jeremy bloom when he played for the eagles
>happened to mike sam
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i want michael sam and johnny manziel to fail for similar reasons
yall position every argument on here to the lowest common denominator

scroll up.

it's there, i promise.

>i want michael sam and johnny manziel to fail for similar
>reasons
>yall position every argument on here to the lowest common
>denominator

Same shit happened with Tebow.

why, again?
what is wrong with you ppl?

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read my response to him.

lol


Say dat then.
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i know this is a gay agenda advocacy forum
but some of yall gotta learn
when to fish
and when to cut bait.

first they say the gay mafia made it impossible to cut him.
then they unironically point out how obvious it was that he'd get cut.

then they talk about how nobody should be talking about this guy
that they keep talking about... wringing their hands about
what to tell their children about the existence of Michael Sam,
and going on about a kiss that happened months ago.

all while saying that nobody cares that he's gay,
so it was never a big deal that he came out.


it's amazing.


>i know this is a gay agenda advocacy forum
>but some of yall gotta learn
>when to fish
>and when to cut bait.

well done.

that much, we've established.

Say dat then.
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so perfect

you have next to no room to black check me about anything.

yall self hating n words are pitiful

do better brother

>do better brother

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muthafuggahhhhh

>first they say the gay mafia made it impossible to cut him.
>then they unironically point out how obvious it was that he'd
>get cut.
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>then they talk about how nobody should be talking about this
>guy
>that they keep talking about... wringing their hands about
>what to tell their children about the existence of Michael
>Sam,
>and going on about a kiss that happened months ago.
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>all while saying that nobody cares that he's gay,
>so it was never a big deal that he came out.
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>>i know this is a gay agenda advocacy forum
>>but some of yall gotta learn
>>when to fish
>>and when to cut bait.



This^^^made me laugh because it's absurd and so dead on....lol

Name the last person that was lauded for making the practice squad?


Only way he gets to play is if three ppl get SEVERELY injured.

Will the team be able to haze him like they do other rooks?
Making him pay the tab?
Dunking him in ice baths like they did Prince Akeem?


And practice squad is only weekly contracts,
Shit, some be daily (#toma).

I know my relly would LOVE to be in Sam's shoes right now but he straight as a arrow but he does play TIGHT END!

nobody answered, though.

what u thought niggas weren't going come back to laugh if dude got cut?

i'm not surprised at all.


>what u thought niggas weren't going come back to laugh if
>dude got cut?
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like what part of the game is that?

...we shouldn't even be talking about this dude.
he was a late round pick and i don't even know why
anybody was paying attention to him...

...the gays are the ones that even made this an issue. if he wouldn't have put
his sexuality "in everybody's face" then we wouldn't be clowning him like this.


oh. and something about how their children seeing him
kiss a guy is ruining this great christian nation.


that about sums it up.




>like what part of the game is that?

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>Name the last person that was lauded for making the practice
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I think the practice squad would still make him the most accomplished openly gay player in the big 4 American sports.

He ain't Jackie Robinson, but it's still notable because alot of people said it wouldn't happen anytime soon.

It really shouldn't matter but both sides of argument make it matter.

>I think the practice squad would still make him the most
>accomplished openly gay player in the big 4 American sports.


collins played 1 yr openly gay. bench warmer >>>>>>>>>> practice squad

Coming out really didn't pay off for him.

I doubt he would have been resigned last year without the announcement.

being gay has nothing but perks!
it's all a big con.

come out to get some attention,
and the benefits just start pouring in!

>I doubt he would have been resigned last year without the
>announcement.

i told my landlord and he lowered my rent.

free electricity for the entire month!


>i told my landlord and he lowered my rent.
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Jason Collins had a girlfriend and his twin brother claimed to have no idea he was gay. Nigga might be lying... ionno.

It worked tho...

A 34 yr old bench warmer we didn't even know existed became a star over night.

That's all he was the 3 years before he came out and that's all he is now. That's enough to warm a seat in the NBA.

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not come out of the closet?
not try to make a team?
give up?


what should the ppl cheering for him have done?

wish that he'd fail?
be sad an openly gay dude got drafted?
tell him he should have stayed closeted?

what?

what's your end game?
do you have one?

We gonna deal with the now. He put himself out here. He could have come out to his family and friends, but he tried to leverage his sexuality before the NFL Combine.


He should have just went with the process like normal and like people expected him to - an aspiring NFL football player. Not a GAY Aspiring NFL Football Player, to which is why he's being scrutinized because he made the matter of his sexuality the FOCAL POINT!

No if you are going to keep arguing after this, then you just like punching at the wind for no reason.





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>We gonna deal with the now. He put himself out here. He
>could have come out to his family and friends,

fine.
you think he should have stayed closeted, or partially closeted.

i don't think you are a completely horrible person,
so i will give you the benefit of the doubt here.

i am going to assume that you think being closeted (or partially closeted)
is easy. i mean, why wouldn't you think that? you've never had to do it.

but i have.
i did the whole closeted dude in the military thing.
i told my friends, but i tried to keep my superior from suspecting anything.
that was not easy, being so evasive all the time.

b/c of that experience, i wouldn't expect anybody to stay closeted any longer than they felt they had to,
beause it's a pretty sucky life to lead.

i am going to assume that you have never considered that being closeted is painful,
and that's why you think he only came out so he could
get put on every television across america.

i get it now.

you say these things because you've never been closeted or
partially closeted, so you lack empathy.






but he tried to
>leverage his sexuality before the NFL Combine.
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>He should have just went with the process like normal and like
>people expected him to - an aspiring NFL football player. Not
>a GAY Aspiring NFL Football Player, to which is why he's being
>scrutinized because he made the matter of his sexuality the
>FOCAL POINT!
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>No if you are going to keep arguing after this, then you just
>like punching at the wind for no reason.
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Dude he used his sexuality as a means to try and advance his career. So stop acting like you did see it too.

If he was all about football and and being gay he would have come out before the end of his college career. The move was intentional and calculated. To act like you can't understand that fact is nonsense.


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i understand that you can't relate to the pain of
being disowned by his family for being gay.

you think it would be easy to come out at an early age.
you can't relate to a gay guy that sees that no openly gay people are in the NFL,
and that may make a gay guy not want to come out.


and you certainly can't relate to deciding to be closeted,
only to find out that it is difficult o stay closeted, because
you can't even answer regular questions honestly.
(so how is your girlfriend? what are you doing for valentines day?
what club did you go to last night).


which means you can't relate to the breaking point you
reach when you just say fuck it and say the words "i'm gay."


i understand that you can't understand those things.
i wouldn't expect you to have empathy for that situation.
i don't expect any of you ppl to have empathy for that situation.

it's hard for ppl that haven't been there to understand.



>Dude he used his sexuality as a means to try and advance his
>career. So stop acting like you did see it too.
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>If he was all about football and and being gay he would have
>come out before the end of his college career. The move was
>intentional and calculated. To act like you can't understand
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i get it.
they don't get it.

if they don't believe that homophobia is a thing by now,
they never will.

that doesn't mean i won't ridicule them and watch
them do mental gymnastics to try to explain why shit
they said that doesn't make sense does make sense.

who knows, maybe somebody that's reading this and lurking
might learn that they don't have to think about themselves
the way these ppl think about them.

that would be nice, if it happened.

Lets keep this about FOOTBALLL
If we did that
We wouldnt be talkin bout this scrub
His sorry ass

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12517414&mesg_id=12517414&listing_type=search

>Lets keep this about FOOTBALLL

10K a week while you get to learn the teams system and use their facilities.

PS is where you stash players you think have potential. It's waaaay better than not making the practice squad.

I bet you wold be hype if your son made the practice squad as a late rounder.

And he barely made it to the PS. Hey. for some it's still living the dream, but you and I know this. These other band wagon fans are just here because Sam is gay. BTW he made his sexuality the focus of his NFL career, not his play on the field.


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>BTW he made his
>sexuality the focus of his NFL career, not his play on the
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he could have told his boyfriend to stay at home,
or keep his distance from him at the draft party.

be could have maybe even brought a female friend along
to peck on the cheek after it was announced he was drafted.

but he didn't do that.

he just said that he was gay and kissed his boyfriend
and then a bunch of idiots kept talking about that for several months
as if all the children that saw the kiss are now scarred for life.

lots of people focused on his sexuality
as if it was more important than anything else about him.
most of those same people also said they didn't care whether he was gay.






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Who brought up Michael Sam's Sexuality?

Don;t hurt yourself. He Did. End of story.





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i get that.

you think it's easy to not bring up your sexuality.
you've not considered how often ppl ask you innocuous questions about
whether or not you are seeing anybody that would cause you to
have to lie or be evasive if you want to avoid
telling ppl that you are gay.

and you also don't notice that straight ppl kiss
their SO's all the time, even in public...
and that that is just as much an example of "bringing up
your sexuality" as Michael Sam just stating that he's gay.


since you've never considered these things,
you don't understand why it wouldn't be easy for Sam to just
stay closeted until whenever.

i understand why you can't empathize.
you've never had to do it.

>Who brought up Michael Sam's Sexuality?
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Say dat then.
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i asked you that the other day, you didn't respond.

Say dat then.
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there's no other explanation for your obsession.

i'm actually gonna pray that you find peace with yourself.

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I think is rather sad.

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and you'd very much appreciate it if others who felt the same would just decide not to partake, or keep it to themselves- like you have.

LOL you think i call ppl gay as an insult?
LMAO
LOLOLOL

first off, to say Michael Sam "makes a big deal" of his sexuality by simply stating it - you the same niggas that eye roll at white people for saying "black people make a big deal out of racism" just because it exists.

Sam HAD to come out (he felt) because going into the NFL Draft process he wanted to be free and clear of any hiding he would have to do. You guys say if your play is good on the field/court/etc then "we" (as Americans) don't care and will let you cook.

Name one time this has happened.

It hasn't.

THAT is why Sam was going to have a reality show. Sure, to monetize his story, but also because there was/is an historic thing happening before our eyes. When they had to send tanks to Arkansas for Blacks to go to their desegregated school, where the students bringing attention to themselves by making it about race? Does their right or opportunity to that school demand that they be A+ students?

How is it that Sam is under such ridicule for doing what he does? He's gay in a straight oriented country. People in the same post are saying he's not good enough to play, but if he is he shouldn't go to Dallas because Texans are conservatives......so you are legitimizing the prejudice he would face simply because of his lifestyle.

Had Sam not announced he was gay, and gotten drafted in the 4th round because he was SEC player of the year, and gotten cut or not made the practice squad, would that be big news? Would yall be saying "he didn't get a fair shake"? Would yall be saying he was fighting for one open position on the Rams and didn't make it because of slim pickings?

Sam got drafted, kissed his boyfriend, smeared cake, etc. Plenty of people/athletes/students/newlyweds/engaged have done it a million times over. But the reason you're mad isn't his fault. It's on tv because it's history. It's history because this country still sees homosexuals as less than, in citizenship with law and humanity in religion.

Maybe Sam felt he could have gotten a fairer shake if he hadn't come out, but he has to deal with himself. He would NOT be the first person to be drafted, earn millions of dollars, and not live up to his NFL expectations. For every person who says "he benefited at Missouri by playing opposite a more talented player" - where are you to make the case that then he'd be a productive for the Rams because they are deep with talented pass rushers. All you're saying is he shouldn't make $100 million dollars, not that he can't play.

Niggas seriously need to get over themselves. You aint make such a big deal out of people just existing, then they wouldn't have to "come out" in the first damn place.

his fans called people anti-christian when they were critical of his game.

The issue is all the attention he gets for his off the field antics instead of his on field performance.

Most people said PS or cut and all the gays came in screaming hate.

Lets be real... ESPN pushed this story so this is why we are talking about it. It's not like people on here hacked his email and outed him.

This is nothing more than a debate about a gay football player getting shine for everything but his game.

EVERYONE on OKP, even Case, said... "let's see if he got game"

as far as being happy he got cut/PS... nah every year football heads project who will break out or bust. Sam is getting the same shit Manzeil is getting...

HATE for off field antics that have nothing to do with his game.

But TIMMY was a BALLER
Swear to god he didnt take over a few games and produce WINS!!!
Timmy had an unorthodox playing style but his ass got BUSY

Tebow was getting shine as the 3rd QB... fielding interviews and shit.

As far as balling out in college. True, he had game but so dod every QB at Hawaii and Nebraska (back in the day).

Tebow is a straight white dude with heavy Christian convictions.

that affords him a lot of privilege that even he can't throw himself out of.

But Sam saying his "off the field" matters has more to do with how this country isn't over this subject yet.

the BEST business move for Sam was getting drafted, THEN getting caught and admitting he was gay. He could secured his bank and been on a team and that would have been the nice social experiment.

but he didn't. he wanted to be out in the open with everything on the table.

Dungy came out and said he wouldn't draft him, PURELY on the spectacle, same notion that keeps Tebow out.

the conversation has changed from whether he could play or not.

same with Tebow. Maybe he could be successful in a read option offense (like he started to be in Denver).

ultimately, we'll see. I want to see him succeed. but I wanted to see Jacory Harris succeed too when he came out of Miami. Doesn't mean that if he had said he was gay when he did that it would have locked up any success for him, nor a roster spot.

>first off, to say Michael Sam "makes a big deal" of his
>sexuality by simply stating it - you the same niggas that eye
>roll at white people for saying "black people make a big deal
>out of racism" just because it exists.
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>Sam HAD to come out (he felt) because going into the NFL Draft
>process he wanted to be free and clear of any hiding he would
>have to do. You guys say if your play is good on the
>field/court/etc then "we" (as Americans) don't care and will
>let you cook.
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>Name one time this has happened.
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>It hasn't.

Leonard Little is one player that comes to mind. Mike Vick is another player that comes to mind. Josh Brent killed a teammate and is on his way back to the league. Google paul tagliabue before you respond to this post.

>THAT is why Sam was going to have a reality show. Sure, to
>monetize his story, but also because there was/is an historic
>thing happening before our eyes. When they had to send tanks
>to Arkansas for Blacks to go to their desegregated school,
>where the students bringing attention to themselves by making
>it about race? Does their right or opportunity to that school
>demand that they be A+ students?

WAT.... The hyperbolic statements are more insulting that the actual issue itself. In other words, his sexual preference is wholesale irrelevant as far as football. The hyperbolic statements bring an entirely different element to the conversation that is unwarranted.

In hindisight, a reality show could've derailed his career. It's not about sexuality so much as the fact that he's not worthy of making the St. Louis Rams. The organization said it themselves. Imagine the outrage at a guy who couldn't make the team. The media circus is even bigger. That was a smart move on his part.
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>How is it that Sam is under such ridicule for doing what he
>does? He's gay in a straight oriented country. People in the
>same post are saying he's not good enough to play, but if he
>is he shouldn't go to Dallas because Texans are
>conservatives......so you are legitimizing the prejudice he
>would face simply because of his lifestyle.
>
>Had Sam not announced he was gay, and gotten drafted in the
>4th round because he was SEC player of the year, and gotten
>cut or not made the practice squad, would that be big news?
>Would yall be saying "he didn't get a fair shake"? Would yall
>be saying he was fighting for one open position on the Rams
>and didn't make it because of slim pickings?
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>Sam got drafted, kissed his boyfriend, smeared cake, etc.
>Plenty of people/athletes/students/newlyweds/engaged have done
>it a million times over. But the reason you're mad isn't his
>fault. It's on tv because it's history. It's history because
>this country still sees homosexuals as less than, in
>citizenship with law and humanity in religion.
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>Maybe Sam felt he could have gotten a fairer shake if he
>hadn't come out, but he has to deal with himself. He would NOT
>be the first person to be drafted, earn millions of dollars,
>and not live up to his NFL expectations. For every person who
>says "he benefited at Missouri by playing opposite a more
>talented player" - where are you to make the case that then
>he'd be a productive for the Rams because they are deep with
>talented pass rushers. All you're saying is he shouldn't make
>$100 million dollars, not that he can't play.
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>Niggas seriously need to get over themselves. You aint make
>such a big deal out of people just existing, then they
>wouldn't have to "come out" in the first damn place.
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THIS IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SITUATION. LOL at straight privilege. NFL draft picks don't smear cake and kiss their girlfriends. If it's so easy to find an example of it happening then you can provide an example...

With that said, let's not derail from the facts. Sam DID come out to his family and friends in college first. This wasn't a story during his season last year. It only came out because NFL GMs would find out anyway. In other words, he had to say something. It's impossible to come out to family and friends but not reveal it to NFL GMs. Let's say he used that logic. Some NFL team leaks his sexual preference and then draft experts use his lack of complete honesty to downgrade him.

Michael Sam is cut even if he was straight. Who gets cut to make room for Michael Sam on the Rams? I'm talking about football. NFL gms determined that Mike Sam is a developmental prospect this season.

Russell Wilson got drafted in the 3rd his year and cameras were in his home. They did a shot of him getting the call, a few celebratory stock shots, and then follow interview.

he was sitting beside his then white wife.

lets say this were a time when being in an interracial relationship was frowned upon.

lets say he goes to Seattle and is trying to win a spot against Tavaris Jackson and newly brought in Matt Flynn on a big contract. But that the media is all in his house cause he's going to be the first open-interracially-married player in the NFL or whatever. Cameras would come the same they did, but they let the camera roll longer.

maybe he kisses his white wife on live television, and maybe niggas are repulsed.

maybe the narrative is "he got cut from NC State, they didn't even want him" or "he was only fast cause they played in the Big 10" and "he aint Drew Brees, that height is something he's not going to be able to get over"

all those things circulating at the same time could lead one to believe that a certain outcome - positive or negative - would happen.

but play on the field would dead all that. he makes plays and scores touchdowns then it deads all that talk.

Sam performed on the field, and well enough to at least get a shot with a team.

but to make it like it is so easy to just come out, or that he did it to "make it on an NFL team" - yeah.

he had a ton to lose by coming out, but I think he felt that he wanted to control his narrative.

it's hard to relate to Black shit because we don't come out as "Black" but when society sees what you are as a certain way then you can fight or fly. He fought, and he's still fighting.

I remember when Warren Sapp was playing on a Monday night against the Jags, and he was getting stopped, straight up beat, with no double teams. He was done. The field decided.

Not a poor combine, not a rookie drafted in his position, not salary cap hit. He just aint have it.

Can you truly right now say that Sam can't make it in the NFL? you have no basis to make that assertion. If you don't like that/how he came out, then you have a gripe against society, not him. Let that nigga cook and if he sorry we will know soon enough.

niggas was saying before he was even drafted that they may not do it JUST because of the distraction it would bring. What distraction is there to be had if we are over it? We aint over shit, we aint even over racism, and you think homophobia isn't a thing? stay woke man.

>Russell Wilson got drafted in the 3rd his year and cameras
>were in his home. They did a shot of him getting the call, a
>few celebratory stock shots, and then follow interview.
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>he was sitting beside his then white wife.
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>lets say this were a time when being in an interracial
>relationship was frowned upon.
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>lets say he goes to Seattle and is trying to win a spot
>against Tavaris Jackson and newly brought in Matt Flynn on a
>big contract. But that the media is all in his house cause
>he's going to be the first open-interracially-married player
>in the NFL or whatever. Cameras would come the same they did,
>but they let the camera roll longer.
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>maybe he kisses his white wife on live television, and maybe
>niggas are repulsed.
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>maybe the narrative is "he got cut from NC State, they didn't
>even want him" or "he was only fast cause they played in the
>Big 10" and "he aint Drew Brees, that height is something he's
>not going to be able to get over"
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>all those things circulating at the same time could lead one
>to believe that a certain outcome - positive or negative -
>would happen.

This is a completely false scenario and not plausible. Russell Wilson is the J. Cole of NFL QBs so the interracial angle wouldn't work. He's exactly what you'd make in a lab if you created an NFL QB. He started and balled at NC State and Wisconsin. In other words, this was a bad choice.
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>but play on the field would dead all that. he makes plays and
>scores touchdowns then it deads all that talk.
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>Sam performed on the field, and well enough to at least get a
>shot with a team.
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>did it to "make it on an NFL team" - yeah.

I never said so go to war with those dudes. Extra attention for players that don't deserve hurts team chemistry in the NFL word to Tebow.
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>he had a ton to lose by coming out, but I think he felt that
>he wanted to control his narrative.
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>it's hard to relate to Black shit because we don't come out as
>"Black" but when society sees what you are as a certain way
>then you can fight or fly. He fought, and he's still
>fighting.

^^^ THIS IS THE SHIT that pisses people off. In a general sense, your analogy fails. If you want to talk about Mike Sam's courage then say that. However, equating the revelation of one's sexual preference to race, yet alone nigga privileges is LAUGHABLE.

Here's why:

No one has to know anyone's sexual preference. The social climate is completely different. Most people support and honor members of the LGBT community. Transgender people have it very rough so I'll revise my initial statement to the LGB community.

I won't talk about the obvious point about nigga privileges at the moment because you know you fucked up.
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>against the Jags, and he was getting stopped, straight up
>beat, with no double teams. He was done. The field decided.
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>Not a poor combine, not a rookie drafted in his position, not
>salary cap hit. He just aint have it.
>
>Can you truly right now say that Sam can't make it in the NFL?
>you have no basis to make that assertion. If you don't like
>that/how he came out, then you have a gripe against society,
>not him. Let that nigga cook and if he sorry we will know soon
>enough.

I'm on record as changing my mind as far as Sam's place in the NFL. He's a developmental player at the moment. However, the team drafted him didn't want him. They gave him plenty of time to earn a spot on the team. There was a stretch no team picked him up. In other words, none of our opinions on whether Sam belongs in the league matter. GMs and coaches opinion matter. HE'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO WARREN SAPP.
>
>niggas was saying before he was even drafted that they may not
>do it JUST because of the distraction it would bring. What
>distraction is there to be had if we are over it? We aint over
>shit, we aint even over racism, and you think homophobia isn't
>a thing? stay woke man.
>
>

I apologize for my tone earlier but the hyperbolic statements rubbed me the wrong way. Homophobia is a thing but the obvious discrepancy in its implementation negates a comparison to racism. No one has to know someone's sexual preference. It is a personal choice to reveal sexuality. In other words, someone could skirt any social effect by not revealing it. An out individual is safe for the most part.

is the evidence.

what does that even mean?

you are a player in the SEC, about to get ready for the NFL Draft.

you held this secret from your teammates from the better part of your career and felt you had to say something to then.

and now you are a DPOY for the SEC. Whether you are good or not, how many cameras do you think are coming to chronicle your draft process?

how many NFL Network, ESPN, etc producers are thinking of "maybe" including his journey to the NFL?

so you are sitting here, with a boyfriend, with this opportunity of a lifetime, one shot deal in most cases to get to the league, and you want him to keep this is a secret?????

with teammates also going through the draft process? with coaches also knowing? with any person who could spill the beans about his life? and with all his shit about to be put on blast???

how would he keep it to himself?

but beyond that, if he is an average kid in America anywhere, and is gay, why should he keep it a secret? when senior prom comes should he just be like "naw I aint gotta date" and miss out? it definitely matters man. You can struggle unprovoked just by the way society is set up, but it is unrealistic to think that he could have just kept his mouth shut inevitably for the sake of not injuring our fragile American psyche.

Why? Because there are many players who may be more talented who are not on any NFL roster, practice squad or not. He has the potential to get coached up, become a more versatile athlete and eventually make it to an active roster and even play down the line.

The guy had the heart and courage to come out, share his orientation and face lots of scrutiny, criticism, homophobic backlash, etc. He is resilient which is commendable. Lastly, Dallas is really in no position to be super picky. Their defense suck and did not get too much better before signing Michael Sam. So, having Mike Sam on the practice squad could not hurt. I hope dude gets better and beasts in the league one day. We shall see..

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What is wrong with being on a practice squad? I remember when Cameron Wake was in the Canadian league before getting a shot with the Miami Dolphins. He did not start off in the league, but look at him now? Point is that every athlete has a journey. It may not be the most ideal journey, but as long as said journey gets them to the same place, then who are we to judge? We know that dude has a lot of work to do. He has limitations. But, you can not teach heart. This is something he has. Him being gay is a separate matter and has nothing to do with his athletic prowess. I root for him and hope he win in the end.

>What is wrong with being on a practice squad? I remember when
>Cameron Wake was in the Canadian league before getting a shot
>with the Miami Dolphins. He did not start off in the league,
>but look at him now? Point is that every athlete has a



And I'd call any other Scurb player a SCRUB. But people are acting like dude is being done wrong. I don't care if he's a GAY player in the NFL, but people are acting like just because he's gay that his SCRUB status should be overlooked. NAH.

And as for being a PS player, ain't no body ever been celebrated fro making the PS. So why are people celebrating Sam being on the PS?

Why? Please tell me why is his PS status even in the news? Is it perhaps because he's GAY?

Come'on yo. On one hand people are like why does his sexuality matter and then on the other hand his sexuality is celebrated because he's open about it as a player in the NFL..

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>>What is wrong with being on a practice squad? I remember
>when
>>Cameron Wake was in the Canadian league before getting a
>shot
>>with the Miami Dolphins. He did not start off in the league,
>>but look at him now? Point is that every athlete has a
>
>
>
>And I'd call any other Scurb player a SCRUB. But people are
>acting like dude is being done wrong. I don't care if he's a
>GAY player in the NFL, but people are acting like just because
>he's gay that his SCRUB status should be overlooked. NAH.
>
>And as for being a PS player, ain't no body ever been
>celebrated fro making the PS. So why are people celebrating
>Sam being on the PS?
>
>Why? Please tell me why is his PS status even in the news? Is
>it perhaps because he's GAY?
>
>Come'on yo. On one hand people are like why does his sexuality
>matter and then on the other hand his sexuality is celebrated
>because he's open about it as a player in the NFL..
>
>GOHWT...
>
>
>
>
I am sure you know that it is very difficult to make an NFL team. Very difficult! How many people get to even try out for a team? How many people get to make it through 3 preseason games?

Next, I do not think the Rams did him wrong. He was given a chance and did not make the cut. But, they really did not need him, to boot, due to them(Rams)being extremely deep at his position.

I do believe that some fans are doing him wrong. I also think that it is a big deal for a man to come out and share to the world that he is gay. I understand why that would be a huge deal to a gay person when they do not get a chance to see an openly gay man play at the NFL level. I would understand if a Pacific Islander would be happy to see one of their own make it on a team or someone who practices a certain religion, etc.

The world is changing, man. Gay folks are tired of being silent and being underrepresented. They demand to be recognized and respected. I can dig it.

Lastly, him making a practice squad is news because he is an openly gay man playing in an overwhelmingly hetero male sport. He is trailblazing. Mike is a hero to many people, gay and straight. He is breaking down stereotypes and helping people become more tolerant. In a few years, hearing about gay men playing in the league will not be big news. But, until that happens, him even having a chance to be on a team without being subjected to disrespect and abuse is a huge step in the right direction.

Oh, dude is not a scrub. What he lacks is some things that he can't help. But, there are some things he lacks that can be coached. Give dude a chance and see what happens. If he can't make it past the PS, then he can say that he was given a chance which is something I doubt he would have had, say 20 years ago.

>>>What is wrong with being on a practice squad? I remember
>>when
>>>Cameron Wake was in the Canadian league before getting a
>>shot
>>>with the Miami Dolphins. He did not start off in the
>league,
>>>but look at him now? Point is that every athlete has a
>>
>>
>>
>>And I'd call any other Scurb player a SCRUB. But people are
>>acting like dude is being done wrong. I don't care if he's a
>>GAY player in the NFL, but people are acting like just
>because
>>he's gay that his SCRUB status should be overlooked. NAH.
>>
>>And as for being a PS player, ain't no body ever been
>>celebrated fro making the PS. So why are people celebrating
>>Sam being on the PS?
>>
>>Why? Please tell me why is his PS status even in the news?
>Is
>>it perhaps because he's GAY?
>>
>>Come'on yo. On one hand people are like why does his
>sexuality
>>matter and then on the other hand his sexuality is
>celebrated
>>because he's open about it as a player in the NFL..
>>
>>GOHWT...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>I am sure you know that it is very difficult to make an NFL
>team. Very difficult! How many people get to even try out for
>a team? How many people get to make it through 3 preseason
>games?
>
>Next, I do not think the Rams did him wrong. He was given a
>chance and did not make the cut. But, they really did not need
>him, to boot, due to them(Rams)being extremely deep at his
>position.
>
>I do believe that some fans are doing him wrong. I also think
>that it is a big deal for a man to come out and share to the
>world that he is gay. I understand why that would be a huge
>deal to a gay person when they do not get a chance to see an
>openly gay man play at the NFL level. I would understand if a
>Pacific Islander would be happy to see one of their own make
>it on a team or someone who practices a certain religion,
>etc.
>
>The world is changing, man. Gay folks are tired of being
>silent and being underrepresented. They demand to be
>recognized and respected. I can dig it.
>
>Lastly, him making a practice squad is news because he is an
>openly gay man playing in an overwhelmingly hetero male sport.
>He is trailblazing. Mike is a hero to many people, gay and
>straight. He is breaking down stereotypes and helping people
>become more tolerant. In a few years, hearing about gay men
>playing in the league will not be big news. But, until that
>happens, him even having a chance to be on a team without
>being subjected to disrespect and abuse is a huge step in the
>right direction.
>
>Oh, dude is not a scrub. What he lacks is some things that he
>can't help. But, there are some things he lacks that can be
>coached. Give dude a chance and see what happens. If he can't
>make it past the PS, then he can say that he was given a
>chance which is something I doubt he would have had, say 20
>years ago.
>
>
>
>

So, being on a practice squad makes a man a scrub, huh? Hmmm

No it doesn't make him a scrub because he has a chance to make to an active roster down the line. How do you know he will not get called to fill in for a starting player this season? You do not know because you are not on the Cowboys coaching staff.

Btw, Plenty of players play on the practice squad, then work their way up. Plenty of players play in the CFL and make it to an active NFL roster. Plenty of players play semi pro ball and make it to an active NFL roster. Plenty of players get cut from an active NFL roster and end up out of the league altogether. I am not going to accept YOUR version of what a scrub is when I know how difficult it is to be on a team, in any capacity. Scrubs to me are people who can't even make it on a team or people who don't play pro sports, but like to talk big shit about those who are on a pro team(hint, hint).

>So, being on a practice squad makes a man a scrub, huh? Hmmm

OMG im gonna stop talkin sports in GD
yall just some dumbfucks
arguing that practice squad dont mean you a scrub
well why the fuck you on the practice squad then???

that's like saying niggas in remedial reading classes their senior year in high school actually ARE good readers
no muthafucka, if yo ass could read you wouldnt be reading cat n the hat at 17.
while the rest of your classmates is reading Don Quixote in AP English class

look here how it goes
practice squad = remedial reading
roster = regular classes
pro bowl = AP classes
hall of fame = poli sci 101 at local comm college while in high school

do you understand those levels?
shit man
nobody aint tryna fuck ol boy over
he had his chance and he didnt show and fucking prove
he just did "ok"
but the NFL aint for "ok" players
they want BEASTS

yall just tryna protect this gay man is making it worse for him
if yall think that nigga on the dolphins got hazed last year
and he EARNED his spot on the roster
imagine what Sam's gay ass will go thru for only getting his spot because folks wanna parade his token ass around

so he's a scrub......unless DeMarcus Lawrence gets hurt, and then maybe he's called up to the 53 man roster = he's that nigga now?

he would not be the first person to go from practice squad to legit.

shit James Harrison spent 2 years on the Steelers' practice squad and was released 3 times! Future defensive player of the year.

if he's gonna fail, then let him, but why yall rooting so hard against him?

damn.

jesus fucking christ
give him a chance???
the nigga had for LIVE GAMES already
so yall want some type of gay ass affirmative action?
why no other candidate is getting all these type of chances?
some folk was let go after the FIRST rams game
Sam got held onto for the full four games

is that not enough?
dude, we saw what he got
he wasnt even going up against PRO-BOWL caliber players

jesus man
nobody aint rooting for him to fail
HE ALREADY FAILED
or else he woulda beat out westbrooks who was a WALKON

we not talkin about Mo'Ne Davis tryna throw in the majors (which I think she could do in ten years)
or britnnay grinder playing in the NBA now (which with her height she MIGHT be able to do)
we talkin bout sam whose skills didn't let him BEAST in his first four games

move on

he's a scrub

know what the NFL's D league is? College Football.

he did his thing.

11 players had more sacks in the preseason than Sam. 10 are on active rosters and one is on a practice squad. Sam is now also on a practice squad.

Now you can make stats say whatever you want. The plays that don't show in the stats could be qb hurries, double teams, getting pancaked, etc.

but to call him a scrub because he's on a practice squad is some dumb shit.

I do not get it. Why shit on another man's dreams? People act like just anyone can make it on a 10 man practice squad. So, 319 players around the league are also scrubs? Shit, if that is the case then I guess dudes who are on active rosters, but do not start or get to only play garbage time and let's add those who are on the squad only to play special teams are scrubs too.

I don't think anyone is saying Mike Sam has HOF potential, but I think it is fair to say that he does have some talent, even if it is limited to being a situational pass rusher. Who is to say he will not gain a lil more speed, power as well as learn how to drop back in coverage, play inside or even play special teams?

i bet yall sorry asses got cut from the JV football squad
ya moms came home found you sulking and crying in your pillow
she asks what happened
you tell her
she jumps on the horn
calls coach and cusses him out
next day you go to school
you got a jersey on your locker
you on the roster the entire season
but your sorry ass never plays a single fucking snap
ya mom dont even have to wash your stirrups cause you never break a sweat
you prolly didn't even have ya teeth formed in ya mouthpiece cause you never used it
no licks on your helmet
not even from practice
just sad
sad sad sad
and YES, we took sports SERIOUSLY

i went to The Hive that produced
Marcus Allen
Terrell Davis
Akili Smith
amongst other NFL, NBA and MLB players

yall making excuses
if the nigga was at least GOOD his playing would speak for itself and nobody would be saying shit except for ooooooooooo!!!! after he smash somebody like Clowney smashed that michigan nigga



>I don't think anyone is saying Mike Sam has HOF potential, but
>I think it is fair to say that he does have some talent, even
>if it is limited to being a situational pass rusher. Who is to
>say he will not gain a lil more speed, power as well as learn
>how to drop back in coverage, play inside or even play special
>teams?

How is me rooting for him hurting him? Ask Jerry Jones if his pocketbook is taking a dive from signing Mike Sam? I bet Jerry Jones makes bank off of Sam. Jersey sales will skyrocket. Yeah, I want the gay dude to succeed because the gay dude has a chance to play a sport that he loves.

As for you coming from a school who produced those guys, well good for you. I came from a city(LBC) that produced a shit load of famous athletes as well. But, none of that shit matters. This is about a dude who wanted to be free. He did not want to have to hide his sexuality. He wants to be accepted for who he is as a person. Once again, I never said dude has MVP caliber skills. I recognize that he has some limitations. However, I do think he has the skill to sack QBs.

Btw, you trying to bag on a niggy is funny to me. I do not take the shit personally because we don't know each other enough for that shit to sting. Just make sure you do not say shit should "gay dude" prove you wrong. I hope he win and make dudes like you eat crow.

yall want a person to be awarded a position not because of their SKILLS or ABILITY pertinent to the job
but for some other shit that has ZERO to do with them being the best performer at their job

worst case of AA ever!

Jackie Robinson was Top 5 player in ALL OF BASEBALL when they were trying to exclude him.
He got a shot because he was THE BEST
not just because they wanted black ppl in the league

just as the Nets sold more jerseys because they signed Jayson Collins,
he played not a SINGLE SECOND out of alllll them playoff games they played.
thats so fucking horrible and a sham of an existence
dead fucking weight they carried around
just to say they had a gay on the squad
just stupid
and honestly
no nba fan really cared or even paid attn he was there
it was "oh, the nets suck but kidd is doing a decent job with kg&paul pierce old ass"

and it is the affinity rule
since you was sorry at sports
you have a space in your heart for other sorry niggras
so you want them all to get a chance
i could give a fuck and recognize SUPERIOR athletes and think they alone should shine
no time for egalitarian bullshit in the olympics
i wanna see the best and fastest out there no matter what
no roids tho
keep it clean folks

oh and my rellys go back to the 1950s running shit in LBC athletics
olympics, nfl, nba, track and field
niggas is decent


>How is me rooting for him hurting him? Ask Jerry Jones if his
> pocketbook is taking a dive from signing Mike Sam? I bet
>Jerry Jones makes bank off of Sam. Jersey sales will
>skyrocket. Yeah, I want the gay dude to succeed because the
>gay dude has a chance to play a sport that he loves.
>
>As for you coming from a school who produced those guys, well
>good for you. I came from a city(LBC) that produced a shit
>load of famous athletes as well. But, none of that shit
>matters. This is about a dude who wanted to be free. He did
>not want to have to hide his sexuality. He wants to be
>accepted for who he is as a person. Once again, I never said
>dude has MVP caliber skills. I recognize that he has some
>limitations. However, I do think he has the skill to sack QBs.
>
>
>Btw, you trying to bag on a niggy is funny to me. I do not
>take the shit personally because we don't know each other
>enough for that shit to sting. Just make sure you do not say
>shit should "gay dude" prove you wrong. I hope he win and make
>dudes like you eat crow.

It's best if u stay away from all Michael Sam topics....That kid is not making u look too good right now....

Just some advice, brother Case....

yeah.. sure.....

>yeah.. sure.....


lol....

he came right out and said that
Michael Sam should have remained closeted.
that's the most direct i've seen him be on this subject.

my guess is that he's working under the assumption
that being closeted is easy.

he then countered by saying that if coming out wasnt a "publicity stunt,"
the he would have come out earlier,
which indicates to me that he thinks coming out is an easy thing to do.



that means that in his own sick, limited, twisted way...
case_one is a slightly better human being than i previously thought he was.
he's not just trolling for LOL's (DJ Boram, diamond legs)
nor is he just tossing jabs trying to get a rise out of ppl (SeV).

i think he genuinely lacks the capacity to empathize
with ppl.

i think that's what's going on here.

What I do not understand is why some people equate Mike Sam's sexual orientation to his athletic prowess? As if him being gay is the reason why he lacks talent. But, the thing is that Mike Sam does have talent. You do not win co MVP of a top notch college conference lacking talent. Not everyone gets invited to the combine, let alone get drafted and they certainly do not get released right at the 53 man mark. To even experience any of those feats is an accomplishment in itself.

I know that Mike may not be as talented as some NFL players at his position. I know he has limitations as far as what he can do from an athletic stand point, but to his favor, he has the heart and a decent level of talent to work on his craft and improve. Mike is going through what a lot of players go through every year. Some make it to the next level while most do not.

Maybe so called fans need to check their level of expectation of football players and stop acting like someone is a failure because they did not make an active roster as a rookie. It is extremely difficult to make it to the NFL. Those who know football know this.

i don't know enough about combines to even understand
why they do it without pads on.

i only know enough about sports to make small talk with
ppl that watch ESPN.

which is to say, i don't know much about sports.


so i didn't post about any of these things on this post.
i posted about ppl's (predictably) ridiculous reaction to Michael Sam coming out
and kissing his boyfriend.

>i don't know enough about combines to even understand
>why they do it without pads on.
>
>i only know enough about sports to make small talk with
>ppl that watch ESPN.
>
>which is to say, i don't know much about sports.
>
>
>so i didn't post about any of these things on this post.
>i posted about ppl's (predictably) ridiculous reaction to
>Michael Sam coming out
>and kissing his boyfriend.
>
>
I may have caught a game or two, but most of my knowledge of him came via highlights as well as media coverage of him coming out. But, I seen him at the combine. Teams use the combine to gather data about a player in order to determine his skill level and draft placement. The combine can't measure intangibles and those who do well at the combine do not automatically do well in a game nor does a guy who does not do well at a combine do horrible in a game. There are other factors that come into play.

On the NFL network, they have been covering Mike Sam and something he said resonated with me when he was interviewed. He said something to the effect that people question his speed, but he finds a way to sack the quarterback. That is something that is intangible. I heard Marshall Faulk say that you can't teach that(even though you can teach technique). Mike has intangibles. But, he lacks versatility and some super athletic skill which is why he is where he is. If he decides to play special teams and play different positions on the DL, then the Cowboys may come up with a steal. Only time will tell what happens.

LASTLY, I do not have to tell you that many people still have issues with homosexuality. We as a society has become more tolerant, but many people within our society do not accept them as being equal to heterosexuals. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is. At least some progress is being made and Mike is helping to bring tolerance to the gridiron.

this whole post you done bammed up talkin bout boolshit none of us sports/football watchers was talkin bout
Mike Sam's sorry ass skills
The nigga sorry!

SEE ALSO: reply 56, reply 36, and reply #3.



>this whole post you done bammed up talkin bout boolshit none
>of us sports/football watchers was talkin bout
>Mike Sam's sorry ass skills
>The nigga sorry!

WPOTGIT???
he
is
fucking
sorry
sad
by nfl standards
maybe not in college
but that nigga graduated and is in THE BIG LEAGUES now
so he sorry
sorry boo.

if you had, you'd know the difference between being "sorry" and not making a roster.

he didn't make the Rams roster. The task was already a reach in the beginning because they had such depth at that position. Same way Teddy Bridgewater isn't "sorry" for falling to the last pick of the first round simply because teams didn't have that need when they were on the clock.

Same way Kurt Warner wasn't "sorry" just because he was behind Brett Farve, Ty Detmer, and Mark Brunell. He was an undrafted rookie, and didn't make the cut. Coaches said they saw potential, but he wasn't ready yet.

Rams just lost Sam Bradford. They have greater needs than backup DEs on their roster spots AND practice squads.

If he were "sorry" another team wouldn't have picked him up to at least give him some smell where he can develop more. I think he will be a situation player, and maybe can develop into an impact rusher you have to account for.

he aint Demarcus Ware, right now at least.

but he definitely aint "sorry".

>if you had, you'd know the difference between being "sorry"
>and not making a roster.

where i'm from
if you tried out and didn't make the roster
YOU WAS SORRY
aint no way around it
dont come to tryouts and not be on that final list on coaches door the next morning

i aint even read all that other shit, jack
did i tell you my fucking FAMILY is in the league right now?
like, search my name and you will read my posts about them LAST YEAR
one of them niggas is marginal in NFL but was a beast in SEC
the other nigga wasn't shit in college but he still bouncing around gettin them weekly practice squad stipends and food vouchers.

stop making excuses for this dude.
if he was that good he would be 3rd string and rocking a jersey on sundays
instead he will be in jorts and a logo t-shirt smelling like Issey Miyake

similar build, "tweener". Undrafted.

Practice squad for Steelers for 2 years.

released 3 times.

"scrub"?

future DPOY.

will that be Sam's future? who knows. let's let it play out.

but to say he's a scrub cause he didn't make the active roster on the NFL, but a team wants him in their back pocket cause he showed flashes doesn't make you a scrub.

I played for a powerhouse in High School, and we had "scrubs" on the team, cause in High School, you don't have to "flash" in practice to make a high school team. You can be on and participate.

even in college, you could make a team, but not be a "scholarship player" but still be worth a damn and not be a scrub.

if he can't play then let's find out. on the field, but the whole point of the NFL is to settle it on the field. how mad you gonna be if he actually lines up on it one day?

actually
i didnt even try out
no interest
but even if i would have
wouldnt have made it
why?
didnt prepare
and them niggas was GOOOODDDDD
i would watch them hit BP and do lil fungo drills in the old gym
nah
i couldnt hang
them niggas had TALENT
so i hit the books and finished my degree in 3.5 years

how many made NFL teams?

how many first rounders.

none? some? practice squad?

so by your standards, you were in fact intimidated by playing with scrubs, and thought you couldn't match up.

Ricardo Allen, 2014 Rookie. Fifth Round pick, Atlanta Falcons. 2nd Team All Big Ten out of Purdue.

practice squad player.

don't know if you saw him on Hard Knocks, but he had flashes on film.

Left some interceptions on the field, got burnt a couple times, had some luck plays made on him. But he got invited back because they see potential.

scrubs don't make practice squads. Practice squad isn't the guy who holds the dummy, or the JV player they bring over as a punching bag for the varsity. In the NFL it is 10 extra roster spots to 1. develop players, 2. hold reserves who can come in and play in case of injury.

if the practice squad was full of scrubs, then why would the NFL even have them? you don't practice with and against scrubs, you always look for talent.

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not at all.

I said he made his sexuality the focus. He didn't have to have to make his coming out a media event. But did it a calculated move right be for he NFL Combine. If he was so admit about coming out and not making this an issued, he could have came out during his college career. He used this subject as a launching pad for personal gain.

NOW For the Record, I don't care if he's a gay NFL football player, but don't use that fact as means to gain celebrity and then cry foul when skill is lacking.




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>I said he made his sexuality the focus. He didn't have to
>have to make his coming out a media event.


and WHY was it a media event?
if somebody told me they were gay, it would be a non-story.
b/c it's not a big deal.

if a gay person kissed their SO in front of me, it would be a non-story.
b/c it's not a big deal.


yet, when Michael Sam said the words "i'm gay" and kissed his boyfriend
people are STILL talking about it months later.
they want to know when and how he showers.
they can't figure out what to tell their children.

now who's fault is that?
who's making it a media event?

if you ppl would let it go then most regular ppl wouldn't be talking
about a dude on the practice squad for the Dallas Cowboys.

but you can't or won't do that.
so here we are.


>But did it a
>calculated move right be for he NFL Combine. If he was so
>admit about coming out and not making this an issued, he could
>have came out during his college career. He used this subject
>as a launching pad for personal gain.


right. i get that you think it's easy to be closeted.
i get that you think it's easy to come out.

you can't relate to these experiences so you assume he MUST have done it for the publicity. i understand that you cannot empathize with Michael Sam.
nor would i expect you to be able to.



>
>NOW For the Record, I don't care if he's a gay NFL football
>player,

obviously.


but don't use that fact as means to gain celebrity and
>then cry foul when skill is lacking.
>


did i say he shouldn't have been cut?
did anybody in this post say he shouldn't have been cut?

ESPN and CNN are practically identical.

.

or shaving foam
whatever they can get their hands on quickly

look at Tahj Boyd
and other muthafuckas that could flat out BALL
but got cut for a variety of reasons
fuck "giving a nigga a chance"
if he can ball
the nigga had 4 games to prove himself
and the rams was like
"hayttit it!"

the nigga got four GOOD runs with PLENTY of snaps against NFL NIGGAS
and his weaknesses were proved

dumb ass yoda talkin about let him prove himself in practice squad
big dummy practice squad only gets to see PRACTICES
he's already elevated past that level and played in LIVE GAMES against other teams that tried to HURT and MAIM his ass

gosh how dumb can yall be
grow a pair!