1. "Johnny Football's going to be on a roster meanwhile......" In response to Reply # 0
....
We are all pulling for Michael Sam to make the team. It's one thing for Brian Okrapo or a seasoned vet on that Washington team to mock Manziel. It's another thing for a dude who might be cut before the next game to do it..
4. "Doesn't Sam have 3 sacks now in the preseason? How can you cut him?" In response to Reply # 0
Unless he's been fucking up majorly on other plays. You draft a guy to be a pass rusher, he gets a bunch of sacks, and you cut him? That wouldn't make any sense regardless of depth. This dude can clearly play, bad combine be damned. Some people can just play football and others are workout warriors that suck at the game.
6. "If you're a pass rushing DE/OLB and you actually get sacks" In response to Reply # 5
You'd have to be super fucking up on your non sack plays to not be doing your job. Has he been horrible on a bunch of plays(asking seriously because I only saw the Rams/Packers game)? Sacks are usually drive killers so you really have to fuck up big time in other aspects of the game to devalue your sacks.
12. "he's a specialist...and he's doing well at what he does..." In response to Reply # 6
getting after the QB. Is he good in coverage...nah, but he could get better. Is he a great open field tackler...meh. Can he get after the QB? Fucking A!!! I watched every game of his college career and no, he wasn't the best defensive player. Koni is vastly superior in every way and is gonna be special with Carolina...but the bottom line is Mike is a football playing motherfucker...that, IMO, is why he's gonna make the team.
13. "U just saying thay cause he gay" In response to Reply # 12
No other 2nd thru 6th round draftee (besides teddy B) is getting this kinda analysis, critique and leeway cut for them.
I dont think he should make the rams cause they are already deep in that position and another guy is already beasting Mike in the same position this pre-season. I *do* think he should make another teams practice squad because he is at least that good. He has a skillset that can be fine tuned into someones system
14. "the fuck does him being gay have to do with it..." In response to Reply # 13
yall dudes stay jumping to conclusions. I bet none of yall watched more than a full game of Sam during college. Shit isn't that complicated. He can play football. Rushing the passer is not something everyone can do. Not sure where you saw ANY excuses at. I clearly said he's a specialist. He's not an all-around player at this point. But what he does...he does. He's not getting beasted, either. How many Rams pre-season games have you honestly seen? It's just like Warren said...dude has better NFL size than Sam and will be a more complete defensive player.
Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86672 posts
Sun Aug-24-14 12:34 PM
15. "lmao, I love how angry he makes people." In response to Reply # 14
"No one should talk about the gay player unless he does well on the field!"
*after he does well on the field*
"Y'all are analyzing how he did on the field too much! You just like him cuz he's gay!"
People are bending over backwards to justify NOT giving credit to a late round pick who is making a splash in the preseason. If getting to the QB was that easy, everyone would do it. And he got multiple preseason sacks.
No one is saying dude should start. All they're saying is he's earned a spot with his play on the field. Which is EXACTLY what everyone who didn't like him said he needed to do. Now that he's done it? Let's move the goalposts once again.
16. "He dont make me angry. His groupies do." In response to Reply # 15
But yall sayin cuz he got three sax in preseaz he should be on they roster. Dont automatically work like that. Do he mesh well with others in the lockerroom? How many of us in offices work with BRILLIANT minds and GREAT workers but they are a drag on office atmosphere and folks cant wait for them to quit, get fired or die?
Ppl wanting Sam to succeed just cuz he going against the norm by being gay, not because he a badass footballer.
I like for Mo'Ne to succeed in baseball because she is better than 98percent of all other ppl on the field, not simply because she is a girl. If Mo'Ne was to be drafted in NFL, her skills would put her at a CLOWNEY or MANZIEL level. Like she absolutely shuts shit down! Fuck her gender, she is RAZZING them dudes with her 70mph heat. Sam dont be beasting like that.
22. "we ain't saying shit besides he's playing well in the pre-season..." In response to Reply # 16
all the other shit, I'm sure Jeff Fisher has a handle on. Funny thing is you're the only one bringing up his preference in here. I been a Mizzou fan and a Sam fan BEFORE he came out. So I don't want him to make shit cuz he's gay...I want him to make it because I think he's a good football player and I like him. If Jeremy Maclin came out tomorrow, he'd still be my favorite player ever from Mizzou...not cuz he's fuckin gay, but because he's a good player and dude and I've been following him since high school. All that Mo'ne shit is rambling and has nothing to do with what we are talking about.
36. "the muthafucka is not *good* he better than most ppl on OKS" In response to Reply # 27
but a group of his NFL peers, he scraping the bottom of the barrel how many times in this very post have ppl said he is "meh" "meh" only gets you on a roster in pro sports if you're "connected" like tony gwynn jr securing spots and he steadily flounders or how bout half of the bobcats squad was doo-doo but somehow was linked to the execs of the team
58. "Question. How many rookies are at the top of the heap?" In response to Reply # 39
This is a veteran's league. You have to start somewhere and it appears he is having a pretty good start. Commendable given all the scrutiny he is under.
43. "nobody that loves football cares dude is gay. get over it." In response to Reply # 42
what we care about is all the hoopla around it and him being propped up because of it let the chips fall where the may why would st louis draft this dude if they were already overcrowded at his position?
thats not a moce GM generally make thats like the broncos of 49ers drafting a D3 QB for what exactly?
again, if he was on the cowboys or jags roster or even bills then maybe he would make it but i cant see st louis keeping him unless out of pure pity
he just dont fit for THAT team nobody aint saying he aint fit for ANY team just not the RAMS
unfortunately he wouldnt make the Texans either
and i dont recall him being on special teams so...
45. "man, you're all over the place with this..." In response to Reply # 43
stop it with the whole "overcrowded" shit. Yes, defense is an area of strength...but you can never have too many people who can legit rush a QB. Plus, if you know anything about Jeff Fisher...this is what he does. He stockpiles defensive pieces. In addition, INJURIES happen. Sam Bradford, lost for the season last night. Trumaine Johnson...arguably the Rams' best corner, sprained his MCL last night...out for 6 weeks. That could have easily been Robert Quinn, or Chris Long.
49. "exactly. the energy. the anger. the shifts. the logical flailing." In response to Reply # 45
never mind san francisco keeps drafting an rb every year cause DUDES GET HURT.
never mind if STL cuts him (and by all means, ain't no one on oks going to disagree if he gets cut for football reasons with their depth) fans of a team like the cowboys are going to be clamoring for him to get a roster spot.
fuck out of here with common sense. let's keep making posts and talking about michael sam cause it's really annoying when people talk about michael sam. dude's trolling himself.
we're going to go from homosexuality being a mental illness to feeling sorry for people being afflicted with homophobia within a couple generations. it's amazing.
Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86672 posts
Sun Aug-24-14 10:24 PM
51. "This is the most baffling part." In response to Reply # 49
>. let's keep making posts >and talking about michael sam cause it's really annoying when >people talk about michael sam. dude's trolling himself.
People always say, "why are we talking about this guy? he doesn't deserve to be talked about!"
Then... don't talk about him.
There are plenty of posts all around OKP that I simply ignore because they aren't worth talking about. If dude honestly felt Sam isn't worth talking about, he'd leave the post and never look back.
18. "How many Rams pre-season games have you honestly seen? TWO!!!" In response to Reply # 14
>yall dudes stay jumping to conclusions. I bet none of yall >watched more than a full game of Sam during college. Shit >isn't that complicated. He can play football. Rushing the >passer is not something everyone can do. Not sure where you >saw ANY excuses at. I clearly said he's a specialist. He's >not an all-around player at this point. But what he does...he >does. He's not getting beasted, either. How many Rams >pre-season games have you honestly seen? It's just like >Warren said...dude has better NFL size than Sam and will be a >more complete defensive player.
21. "3....including one in person..." In response to Reply # 18
the whole point is pre-season is ALL he has to go on. That's how mofos make teams. They show what they can do in the PRE-SEASON!!! He can't go into the future and get regular season sacks.
65. "whats so funny here?" In response to Reply # 59
he watched one more game than me cause i chose to go hang out at bars with my hoodrat friends and do hoodrat things.
and watching NFL in-person aint as good (for analytical reasons) as watching it at home no instant replay and just generally miss a lotta shit that goes on
25. "I disagree with that, .too..." In response to Reply # 24
but I was more responding to the smh of Bradford...as if he did something wrong to get hurt. Maybe I misunderstood. But no...I'm not actually a Ram's fan...I just pay a lot of attention to them. I like a few of the players and am a HUGE Bradford fan. They are not close, IMO. O-line is not great...no real #1 WR and secondary super questionable. I really cant see them doing better than 8-8 and that was WITH Bradford. In the Shaun Hill era...who knows.
23. "it's pretty much being called a done deal by..." In response to Reply # 17
all the "in the know" folks here right now. Fisher is addressing the media at 5:30, but apparently he re-tore it. I'm honestly sick to my stomach. I don't think anyone here rode harder for Sam than me. He was looking nice so far, too.
37. "As someone who saw a lot of him, Shaun Hill is the best QB2 around" In response to Reply # 26
I honestly haven't seen enough from Bradford to say that this is a no-question step down. However good ya'll were GONNA be, I think you're still on pace. Hang in there. It blows though, he's a good kid who never got the chance to show out.
62. "that would require SF and/or SEA underperforming" In response to Reply # 33 Mon Aug-25-14 02:31 PM by Flash80
if anyone, arizona and that defense stand to gain the most. i mean, carson palmer had 25 turnovers and they won 10 games. (he threw 4 picks at seattle and they still won)
57. "did you watch the E WA game where the scored with 35 secs left" In response to Reply # 46
in the game and they were already up 42-28 they coulda taken the knee and walked off the field instead they quick snapped the next two plays punching it in from 35 yards out totally surprised EEVERYbody totally classless and not needed
i say that to say, that TD was a "garbage time" TD
60. "if mike sam is going stick in the nfl i want him to go full villain " In response to Reply # 0
manziel is an easy target so this isn't really interesting to me sam needs to pull out that ravishing rick rude hip swivel sack celebration the madder the better
71. "NFL would never allow it." In response to Reply # 61 Tue Aug-26-14 02:48 PM by Dr Claw
they don't like Black people flaunting that "Black" swag because it offends the sensibilities of crusty old dudes who think they're "cooning"
now if you think a dude is gonna go out there and flaunt black AND gay swag up there in the face of that colonialist regime and not get some kind of "rule" made up for him afterward? sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit.
I would laugh my ass off though if he even entertained dat 'mophobia though
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