http://www.latimes.com/sports/ucla/uclanow/la-sp-ucla-josen-rosen-20150826-story.html

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the young man ran a very similar offense in high school and he's a real quick decision maker..

I honestly think he's gonna really utilize our weapons really well..

UCLA has the chance to have a very explosive offense..

our skill position guys stand up against any group in the pac 12 and the country really in terms of depth..

Payton...Massington....Mossi Johnson...devin Fuller...Thomas Duarte...Chris Clark...Nate Ise....

Pac 12 rusher Paul Perkins..... Nate Starts....Soso...Bolu..

man.....

I'm ready for a big season....

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>our skill position guys stand up against any group in the pac
>12 and the country really in terms of depth..
>
>Payton...Massington....Mossi Johnson...devin Fuller...Thomas
>Duarte...Chris Clark...Nate Ise....
>
>Pac 12 rusher Paul Perkins..... Nate Starts....Soso...Bolu..


StarKs hasn't really proven anything yet. Johnson too. Soso is a true frosh, as is Clark. Ise is an FB that had 70 yards receiving.

There's plenty of potential, but... maybe pump the breaks a bit.

but the big thing for us is the fact that guys like Starks, Ise, Mossi, Lasley...got run as young guys...when they step in as contributors..they've already gotten their feet wet...

Starks averged 4.5 ypc last season...now that James is gone..he's the primary change of pace guy behind Perkins....Now Soso and Bolu will get reps as true Freshman and when Perkins leaves, they'll be a triple threat with Starks and will have already gotten experience...

in Eugene Bralon fucking Addison is considered 2nd string.

Allen, Stanford, Carrington, Marshall, Nelson, Freeman... all we are adding to it is Sparq champ Kirk Merritt, and Taj Griffin... Jalen Brown...

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vsVirginia W
@UNLV W
vsBYU L
@Arizona L
vsArizona State L
@Stanford L
vsCalifornia toss up, ill still say L
vsColorado W
@Oregon State W
vs Washington State no idea, fine..W
@Utah L
@USC L


ouch.

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>vsVirginia W
>@UNLV W
>vsBYU L
>@Arizona L
>vsArizona State L
>@Stanford L
>vsCalifornia toss up, ill still say L
>vsColorado W
>@Oregon State W
>vs Washington State no idea, fine..W
>@Utah L
>@USC L
>
>
>ouch.


Based on schedule or Rosen?
I mean they could lose 5 in a row but theyre ranked above every single one of those teams you have them losing to in that stretch. I dont think he goes 7-0 but 2-5 after that stretch?

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you see that road schedule? brutal...and a true freshman qb? good luck. .its possible he could get better towards the middle/end.

good thing the o-line is experienced...mora has recruited well though, and there's always an upset or two but isa's prediction is an optimistic outlook, imo.




>>vsVirginia W
>>@UNLV W
>>vsBYU L
>>@Arizona L
>>vsArizona State L
>>@Stanford L
>>vsCalifornia toss up, ill still say L
>>vsColorado W
>>@Oregon State W
>>vs Washington State no idea, fine..W
>>@Utah L
>>@USC L
>>
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>>ouch.
>
>
>Based on schedule or Rosen?
>I mean they could lose 5 in a row but theyre ranked above
>every single one of those teams you have them losing to in
>that stretch. I dont think he goes 7-0 but 2-5 after that
>stretch?

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>vsCalifornia toss up, ill still say L

UCLA should be roughly as good as last year provided that Rosen is at least DECENT

& cal had the 10th-ranked scoring offense in 2014

they should be even better this year.

the defense was trash but if its going to be a shootout, gimme Cal all day.

easy bet.


>>vsCalifornia toss up, ill still say L
>
>UCLA should be roughly as good as last year provided that
>Rosen is at least DECENT
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wants to talk about what everyone else got...

smh...

UCLA's offensive weapons depth stands up to ANYONE in our conference right today.

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>UCLA's offensive weapons depth stands up to ANYONE in our
>conference right today.

Even as good as ucla was last season and as bad as Cal was on defense last season, Cal still only lost by 2 points (36-34) and Cal was driving for a potential game winning field before Goff throw an interception that was up held even though it appeared the ucla defender bobbled the ball before going out of bonds.

it...

UCLA is gonna lose 1 maybe 2 games this year..

and SC for sure don't want it... we've whupped up on them the last few seasons because of the huge talent level advantage we've had on SC and it's arguably even bigger now...

>it...
>
>UCLA is gonna lose 1 maybe 2 games this year..

LOL

>and SC for sure don't want it... we've whupped up on them the
>last few seasons because of the huge talent level advantage
>we've had on SC and it's arguably even bigger now...

the last few seasons have no bearing on this season, and also im not seeing this huge talent gap that you're speaking about. its pretty even, and this year, the scale tips towards SC

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over the last few years that got their recruiting class ranked high... seen them cats play in person multiple times.... Iman Marshall....Adoree Jackson...Darius Rogers.... I got WRs who were 10th graders last year who torched Marshall on a few plays.... seen guys touch up Adoree pretty solid too..

it's interesting how if a guy is on USC's radar...all of the sudden they a 5 star recruit....

Max Browne was the top QB coming out his year...and again was the reason SC had a top recruiting class... has Max even seen the field in a real game yet?

all those young defensive guys who were under Kiffin over there..some who came out early...highly touted...cats didn't even get drafted some of em.....

meanwhile the Bruins pick up guys that come in and actually ball when given the opportunity.... Barr??? Kendricks??? Now Myles Jack???

come on man...

there's a talent disparity right now and that's why UCLA smacks SC in the mouth when they play them...

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>there's a talent disparity right now and that's why UCLA
>smacks SC in the mouth when they play them...

I'm struggling to see what has changed going into this year. unless Rosen is absolutely dreadful.

but they have a solid, seasoned veteran team. at this point that gives them the edge over a young albeit talented UCLA squad.


>over the last few years that got their recruiting class
>ranked high... seen them cats play in person multiple
>times.... Iman Marshall....Adoree Jackson...Darius Rogers....


>I got WRs who were 10th graders last year who torched Marshall
>on a few plays.... seen guys touch up Adoree pretty solid
>too..
>
>it's interesting how if a guy is on USC's radar...all of the
>sudden they a 5 star recruit....

yea recruiting services are always on that bullshit. s

>Max Browne was the top QB coming out his year...and again was
>the reason SC had a top recruiting class... has Max even seen
>the field in a real game yet?

Cody Kessler is a fine quarterback. WHy would they play Max Browne?



>all those young defensive guys who were under Kiffin over
>there..some who came out early...highly touted...cats didn't
>even get drafted some of em.....

you can still be a good college player and not get drafted.


>meanwhile the Bruins pick up guys that come in and actually
>ball when given the opportunity.... Barr??? Kendricks??? Now
>Myles Jack???
>
>come on man...


theyre fine players, never said otherwise.


>there's a talent disparity right now and that's why UCLA
>smacks SC in the mouth when they play them...
>
>http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_images/2013/12/01/2013-11-3017_37_01.gif


smacked*..past tense. i think usc oregon and asu will contend for the pac 12 this year.

this thread will be fun to up in late november.

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>but they have a solid, seasoned veteran team. at this point
>that gives them the edge over a young albeit talented UCLA
>squad.
>
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>>over the last few years that got their recruiting class
>>ranked high... seen them cats play in person multiple
>>times.... Iman Marshall....Adoree Jackson...Darius Rogers....
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>
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>>I got WRs who were 10th graders last year who torched
>Marshall
>>on a few plays.... seen guys touch up Adoree pretty solid
>>too..
>>
>>it's interesting how if a guy is on USC's radar...all of the
>>sudden they a 5 star recruit....
>
>yea recruiting services are always on that bullshit. s
>
>>Max Browne was the top QB coming out his year...and again
>was
>>the reason SC had a top recruiting class... has Max even
>seen
>>the field in a real game yet?
>
>Cody Kessler is a fine quarterback. WHy would they play Max
>Browne?


my point is that SC gets rated at the top of the recruiting classes because Max was the #1 guy coming out..yet he can't get on the field.... so what does that #1 recruiting class really mean?? nothing.




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>>all those young defensive guys who were under Kiffin over
>>there..some who came out early...highly touted...cats didn't
>>even get drafted some of em.....
>
>you can still be a good college player and not get drafted.
>
>
>>meanwhile the Bruins pick up guys that come in and actually
>>ball when given the opportunity.... Barr??? Kendricks???
>Now
>>Myles Jack???
>>
>>come on man...
>
>
>theyre fine players, never said otherwise.
>
>
>>there's a talent disparity right now and that's why UCLA
>>smacks SC in the mouth when they play them...
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>>http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_images/2013/12/01/2013-11-3017_37_01.gif
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>
>smacked*..past tense. i think usc oregon and asu will contend
>for the pac 12 this year.
>
>this thread will be fun to up in late november.
>

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

UCLA is solid on both sides of the ball....

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Jim Mora continues to kill on the recruiting front...getting guys that actually come in and play well..rather than the overhyped type of flops that end up doing nothing at SC....

and I'm staying the hell away from that line...

Cal will beat UCLA this season. I see UCLA struggling on offense, not living up to the preseason hype, and only winning 7 games this season.

Our OC, for whatever faults he has, breaks in new QBs really quickly, but the Pac-12 schedule is always tough. Read option honestly wasn't a huge part of our run game, as much as Hundley bailed us out with his wheels, at least half those plays came off package plays where we had 5 blocking 4 or designed QB runs, and then the rest off regular ol scrambles and read option. If Rosen is quick enough to get 4 or 5 yards to keep the chains moving he should be alright (think more Brock Osweiler under Mazzone). And Hundley killed us some times by holding the ball FOREVER.

I think whether we live up to expectations or not comes up more to our defense really. We have a bunch of NFL picks on that side of the ball but since Mora has been here we've topped out as above average and not legitimately good, and last year we were average at best. If they get to good or great they can live up to expectations since obviously a freshman QB will take some lumps regardless.

not sure how much of dude you've seen...but to me one of his best attributes is his movement and footwork in the pocket, and outside the pocket...

He's pretty regularly making plays outside the pocket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPV3CBephX4

the kids is a really solid athlete...his not that tall giraffe style QB that has a big arm but seems pretty imbedded in the pocket and can't move..in fact the opposite..he's got solid footwork for a tall guy and can move..

and to me one of the main things that will be an improvement over Hundley I believe is that Rosen's play-fake ability really sells the run....Hundley's play fake was always real nonchalant because he was often looking to take off... Rosen really sells the run and then can get rid of the ball quickly down the field ..he's a much quicker decision maker.

It appears that true freshman Jake Browning has won the starting QB spot at UW.

Unlike Rosen, Browning steps into a complete rebuding job at UW this season. UW is breaking in a lot of new starters at OL, DL, WR, and to a lesser extent LB.

this isn't even the hate speaking, this is just the cold hard truth.

lucky to win 2 conference games

it's not a good look up at U-Dub right now..

>Unlike Rosen, Browning steps into a complete rebuding job at
>UW this season. UW is breaking in a lot of new starters at OL,

he fits the profile for what Peterson wants in a starting QB more than my guy Troy Williams did...

Troy will likely get his chance for revenge though because Utah is really hot after him right now...so after he plays this year at Santa Monica JC...he would have 2 years left of eligibility and Utah is going to need a starter after this season..

smh.

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again

it's a scathing indictment on the lack of physical play in the PAC

>it's a scathing indictment on the lack of physical play in the
>PAC

but not physical enough for a mid tier B1G team...lmao

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selling really makes him the perfect QB for Mazonne's offense...

every pass thrown so far has been perfect

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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

I mean, we'll see what he does on the road and when he gets pressured, but as far as arm talent? Good fucking lord... the touch while having that arm strength is ridiculous. And he gets it out of there quick!

for better and for worse


His pedigree- middle upper class upbringing, dads a doctor, slightly cocky.
White media will LOVE him.

He's gonna be easy to hate

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which gives him a real good chance not to be unanimously despised

And hopefully not a Manziel-level partier, so hopefully he just makes it to Aaron Rodgers/Andrew Luck level annoying.

But yea no Jesus freak...

But that nose, that face, 4.0+ GPA

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/phenom/201408/josh-rosen-quarterback-jewish-catholic-ucla-st-john-bosco-football

Former tennis star
The Wharton (Penn) and Lipincott (publishing) Bloodline...

I guess they call him Chosen Rosen for a reason


The Rosens vacation at the Whartons' Jamestown, Va., home every summer.

Joseph Wharton's daughter, Joanna, married Philadelphia publisher J. Bertram Lippincott in 1887 and named their oldest son Joseph Wharton Lippincott.

Liz's father was the last family CEO of noted publishing house J.B. Lippincott & Co, which was later acquired by Harper & Row, and Josh -- whose full name is Josh Ballinger Lippincott Rosen -- is named after the publisher's founder.

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The Whartons are Quakers. His mom is a Quaker, his dad is Jewish. He just went to an all Catholic school. He doesn't sound very religious but the name and the face are enough to rep the Tribe. Plus dude is a super student, I bet he finishes his NCAA career with a BA and an MA.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

you didn't know if he'd win the starting job Soon or for a good few seasons given the guys who were in at qb at the time

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year into the playoffs... He had more weapons as a Junior than he had as a Senior.... and he kept it going... That was the main thing I needed to see..that he just wasn't a guy who was throwing to wide open receivers that were much better than the guys trying to guard him....

then really...the thing I noticed about him...particularly comparing him to Hundley..was how he sold the play action or hand offs... he really made an effort in that regard..which was always something I didn't like about Hundley in our offense was that he was a little nonchalant with that...

there was more competition at QB when Rosen committed than there ended up being...Asaanti Woulard didn't step up and ended up transferring.... Aaron Sharpe moved to WR.... it came down to just Rosen and Neu really...and Rosen has proved he's got the goods...

it's gonna be a fun season...

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honestly we have the perfect QB for this offense...our Defense is super stout...we're young...we got weapons...

this is gonna be fun

The expectations in this season just jumped up a few notches.

Still early,but damn maybe the most impressive thing about Rosen today was his poise.

hurt celebrating Kenny Clark's TD..

not cool...

I haven't been this interested in a UCLA player's success in a long time if ever. I did fuck with MJD pretty hard.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

im usually super skeptical of all these private schoolboy qbs but he looked the part


if ucla gets thru UA, ASU and Stanford unscathed...i may have to revise my prediction.

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No shots fired-o

Things have changed a bit in recent years since we started recruiting more athletes, but in my time it was very much a working class parochial school that cost somewhere between 4-8k a year. Wasnt a 25-30k a year elite private school like you have here on the east coast or even like Mater Dei is/was

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Just saying

They won and everyone will forget the fuckups. That pass to Payton was a beauty in a big moment, that will go on the highlight tape and the rest will fuck off.

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was how solid the defense looked. Even though they were on the field for long stretches of time, they were able to overcome those turnovers and hold on for the win. This is after Vanderdoes is gone for the season too.

I actually thought that was going to do us in.... w/o Walker adding to Vanderdoss and Ish Adams..... that's a lot of really good defensive players to be without playing a ranked team....

Hollins really stepped up and Goforth had a great game..

Savaiinea really stepped in and had a monster game too. Speaks to the depth of the defense that we're not really missing a beat despite big name losses

Those three picks he threw in the 1st half were absolute high school level mistakes.

He calmed down after halftime though and didn't lose the game for us and the TD pass showed composure.

I'm actually sorta glad he had this type of game at this point of the season to slow the hype train down and teach him a learning lesson. Rather have that against a BYU team that they could survive those mistakes against than against Stanford or something.

beat a ranked team...

he is a true freshman...but we got enough weapons to win even when he isn't spectacular..

Knee injury in practice, no other details yet.

Vanderdoes, Moreau and now Jack... we got some depth, but this is brutal.

he's the best player in the Pac-12 and best linebacker in the country.

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I don't care what nobody says...

the fact that we have lost by injury so many good players...plus had 2 of the better recruits in the country leave the football program as freshman...

and the fact that Mora has been steadily kicking ass on the recruiting trail since he got to UCLA leaves us with such solid depth...that we are still rollin...

our defense is going to have to answer the bell now with out 4 of our best players.....but we now have a D-Coordinator that has experience..and we have enough talent to make it work..

vsVirginia W
@UNLV W
vsBYU L
@Arizona L
vsArizona State L
@Stanford L
vsCalifornia toss up, ill still say L
vsColorado W
@Oregon State W
vs Washington State no idea, fine..W
@Utah L
@USC L

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>vsVirginia W
>@UNLV W
>vsBYU L
>@Arizona L
>vsArizona State L
>@Stanford L
>vsCalifornia toss up, ill still say L
>vsColorado W
>@Oregon State W
>vs Washington State no idea, fine..W
>@Utah L
>@USC L
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Looks like they have depth and a solid system but in the meaty parts of the schedule you need impact guys. Losing Myles in particular is a big blow.

The offense I think is going to keep getting better, developing depth and chemistry alike. I don't think they will have any trouble putting up points against even the better teams like Stanford.

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With them they are just pac 12 contenders.
Probably looking at 2-3 losses

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Kenny Clark moves to the middle..he was the next in line for our elite LBs anyway..now he gets a bit of a head start..

Kenny Clark is an NFL DT...one of the best DTs in the country..

Deon Hollins has stepped up in a major way...

Ishmael Adams came right in and didn't miss a beat...

Jaleel Wadood and Marcos Rios are real solid in the secondary...

and the youngsters we have fillin in on the D-line are solid too..

we've lost 3 of our best players on defense for the season...we can't afford anymore major injuries on Defense..

but right today...we are still solid on that side of the ball

>vsVirginia W
>@UNLV W
>vsBYU L
>@Arizona L
>vsArizona State L
>@Stanford L
>vsCalifornia toss up, ill still say L
>vsColorado W
>@Oregon State W
>vs Washington State no idea, fine..W
>@Utah L
>@USC L
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I can tell you this for a fact....I've seen Jack Jones, Brandon Burton, and Wole Betiku play up close over the last month.... In fact Betiku played so well against us...beating us in overtime..I made a point after the game to tell the kid how he's one hell of a ball player..

UCLA is on the verge of some big things...

withstand losing Vanderdoss and Jack.... ASU got us going right up the gut...

tough loss..

but we fought back ..

lots of football to play

Even without losing all the guys on defense I expected to drop at least a game or two having a freshman QB... we managed to survive that against BYU but it's hard to ask him to fully carry the team back on a day the defense struggles like Saturday. I mean he almost did it... that's the most encouraging to me but we'll have to play pretty perfect in all phases of the game to stay in contention to help Rosen out too.