https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnmaN6S9B_8

smh

the tank hypothesis came together long after the tank field data had materialized


also was waiting for lakeshow to miss that top5(bottom5), but its all good either way

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Say they finish fourth but two teams outside the top five move up in the lotto, bang, they are done-zo. That would be glorious. More likely they get No. 1 overall though.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

crazy that philly potentially had 4 firsts this yr (LAL top 5 protected, MIA top 10, OKC top 18) but will most likely end up w/ just 1

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

And then I got sad for about three seconds at how hard I laughed. I wonder how much fire and brimstone will fall on Phil if the plan to tank this year doesn't pan out.

And i don't know how much of a 'plan' it was as opposed to an obvious strategy at that point in time.

In any event, having nothing positive to show for Chandler, Shump, JR and Amare is very disappointing no matter what happens from here on out.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

Then again, I have no clue what the current plan is in terms of either building through the draft strictly or trying to snag free agents, so looking for some relative short term success maybe unrealistic.

>I have no clue what the current plan is in terms of either building through the draft strictly or trying to snag free agents

they trying to be competitive next year.

This isn't a long term rebuild they got going on.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

The $60 million buys Phil some degree of job security. I'd think he has three more years left assuming the absolute worse, so he could view the current job in a long term prism for improvement.

the future. The knicks have to make the playoffs next year. I don't think they even have next year's first.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

old farts couldn't WAIT to get some downtime

you get the point...

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If we can scoop 2 big ones like monroe and ???? I'm cool wit letting pryzingis chill and develop.

And at least we got something for timmay smh

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For all the bullshit about ZOMG EURO BUSTS IN NY! Gallo was a decent pick and so was Nene.

I think they *potentially* were the big winners today. They got one guy with a very high ceiling and a slight below average floor and another guy with a fairly high ceiling and a high floor.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

>If we can scoop 2 big ones like monroe and ???? I'm cool wit
>letting pryzingis chill and develop.
>
>And at least we got something for timmay smh

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I just can't even lie to myself about Porzingis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FImENJLn6A

Waiting for a young thin euro player in New York. I can't even think of a promising angle here. And his "highlights" are underwhelming.

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Dude's workout for the Knicks was impressive

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like , y'all niggas should really take a look at your behavior. it's disgusting. that's two non-zeke GMs making bullshit moves and y'all niggas like "i guess we gotta go with it"

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We were on board with Crawford, steph, Curry(even though it cost a top 3 pick), zach etc

Lol @ you wanting us to be so mad at phil

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

zeke was catching bricks the moment he traded for marbury.

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why are you making stuff up lol

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

i hope he takes another one next year.

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>i hope he takes another one next year.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

because when it was zeke, i'd get some snark like "actually, we don't have a first next year. Isiah made sure of that"

so, gimme some of that good stuff.

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long after...not sure what you want?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

you bamma really don't care when it's not isiah, do you?

like i said...it's disgusting.

y'all been tracking aldridge and noah for 10 years, whining all the damn time, but something just 3 years ago and we don't remember?

maaaaaaaaaan....i swear i'm coookin y'all this year. every damn game night thread. this is sickening.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

that pick(whichever one Denver doesn't take) to Toronto in the bargnani trade.

REally dude, there's no reason to make stuff up lol.


Besides, everyone knows that Dolan hijacked the MElo trade anyway

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

>Besides, everyone knows that Dolan hijacked the MElo trade
>anyway

yeah, he hijacked zeke not tanking for dwight howard too. and larry brown hijacked that francis deal.

the game is the game. you keep playing dumb and so will I

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

coming to me with this nonsense lol

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

2. you was pressed.

3. mind your business next time.

4. y'all sorry

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

about relevant stuff and then you brought up irrelevant stuff.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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That pick basically was Feel's way of saying, "Hey, Melo...we not trying to win anytime soon...."

Przinga has the basic tools to be a good player...But that's maybe 3 or 4 years from now....Melo is 31....U already know he's looking at the front door....lol

And this was always the gamble. Melo took the money (which was a sound business decision) and got the head fake from Feel on some "WE TRYING TO WIN NOW!!!" shit....

Melo will be asking for a trade this upcoming season, bank it. The problem with that? Who is going to trade for that huge ass contract? Let me correct that...There will be some teams lining up for Melo, but they will be lottery teams desperate for a star player. And again Melo will find himself on a team that has little hope of winning a championship....

Feel has shown everybody his cards. He's going to build from the ground up.

Bottom line: Melo made a fateful decision to take the money and not go to a contending team (Again, Bulls would have been ideal for him). It will haunt him forever.....And nobody put a gun to his head. He got his money...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

>
>That pick basically was Feel's way of saying, "Hey, Melo...we
>not trying to win anytime soon...."
>
>Przinga has the basic tools to be a good player...But that's
>maybe 3 or 4 years from now....Melo is 31....U already know
>he's looking at the front door....lol
>
>And this was always the gamble. Melo took the money (which was
>a sound business decision) and got the head fake from Feel on
>some "WE TRYING TO WIN NOW!!!" shit....
>
>Melo will be asking for a trade this upcoming season, bank it.
>The problem with that? Who is going to trade for that huge ass
>contract? Let me correct that...There will be some teams
>lining up for Melo, but they will be lottery teams desperate
>for a star player. And again Melo will find himself on a team
>that has little hope of winning a championship....
>
>Melo made that fateful decision to take the money and not go
>to a contending team (Again, Bulls would have been ideal for
>him). It will haunt him forever.....But he got his money...

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I've always dug Melo as a player. I think he gets shitted on unfairly by silly, agenda driven folks...

But I don't feel sorry for him. AT ALL...He took the financial security. It was always going to be a gamble no matter what Feel was selling. Melo had a win now situation staring him in the face (Bulls), but LaLa wasn't having it....

Whenever Melo finds himself crying in his sleep after missing the playoffs yet again he will be able to look at his bank account and smile....I guess.....

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They can improve the team this season and still give porzingas time to develop. Most of the top picks are going to need a year to 2 to be contributing on a winning team anyway except for maybe Russel. Porzingas will hopefully be there in 3 and has the potential to be the best player in the class.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

>They can improve the team this season and still give
>porzingas time to develop. Most of the top picks are going to
>need a year to 2 to be contributing on a winning team anyway
>except for maybe Russel. Porzingas will hopefully be there in
>3 and has the potential to be the best player in the class.


There were players that would at least contribute RIGHT NOW (Mudiay and Winslow come to mind)...DAT Zinga doesn't fit that bill for a plug in and play. If the Knicks r looking to truly rebuild getting that kid was the move to make. Because I think he will be good. Just not in the next 2-3 years....

But with Melo there, this was a win now situation....Do you actually think free agents like Durant will want to come to Knicks with another losing season under their belt?....lol....Of course u will get players like Greg Monroe signing up to play in New York, but that won't equate to playoff success, something Feel was brought on to achieve for the Knicks RIGHT NOW....

It's simple. Feel is officially rebuilding...Now the Knicks have to trade Melo...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

but lets say for arguments sake the knicks land 2 of the below (which I think is realistic)

Monroe
Monta
Millsap

If Melo is as good as we think he is (top 10 at worst) that plus other smaller pieces could make the knicks as competitive as any team in the East not named Cle.

Sure, there are guys that could have had some impact this year, but are those guuys going to put the knicks over the top (especially not knowing for sure what we're going to do in fagency)

From the reports, Porzingas has the potential to be the best player out of those available in 3 years. I have no problem at all with the knicks making a move for the future, when they have mortgaged the future so many times for quick fix moves that failed and set us back.

If someone simply doesn't think that Porzingas is going to pan out and be that guy in 3 years, then sure hate the pick...that's completely understandable.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

>but lets say for arguments sake the knicks land 2 of the
>below (which I think is realistic)
>
>Monroe
>Monta
>Millsap
>
>If Melo is as good as we think he is (top 10 at worst) that
>plus other smaller pieces could make the knicks as competitive
>as any team in the East not named Cle.
Phil HAS to do something in FA to salvage this. The saving grace for the Knicks is that we're in the East, and one decent player with Melo can literally jump us into a playoff spot. I doubt if the home run FA's for this year or next year were gonna come anyway (LMA, Durant next year), but getting base hits like Wes Matthews, Millsap, D.West (who I hear wants to come), does sound like a decent plan.

>Sure, there are guys that could have had some impact this
>year, but are those guuys going to put the knicks over the top
>(especially not knowing for sure what we're going to do in
>fagency)
>
>From the reports, Porzingas has the potential to be the best
>player out of those available in 3 years. I have no problem at
>all with the knicks making a move for the future, when they
>have mortgaged the future so many times for quick fix moves
>that failed and set us back.
I don't either...just don't think Zingas is that guy. Fuck the reports, they all sound like Fran Frashilla wrote them. All the reports I've seen and read rave about Zingas, give him glowing reviews, and at the very end in small letters say some shit like, He does have big bust potential.

>
>If someone simply doesn't think that Porzingas is going to pan
>out and be that guy in 3 years, then sure hate the
>pick...that's completely understandable.
I ABSOLUTELY hate the pick. I've heard this song and dance so many times from a Euro (and it's hypocritical because once Philly took Jah (fuck them too), I wanted Mudiay).

I actually didn't log in last night after the pick was made because I was literally mad (saw this morning O_E wanted to fight heads...I did too...lol). I have a problem wasting the prime of a top 10 player. I think Melo got lied to by Phil.

He could've picked a player that can play now, and STILL improved later. From all accounts, Zingas ain't that...from what I've seen, he's another Bargnani.

that was the case no matter who they took.

I also wanted mudiay and would have been thrilled with that pick(what fan wants to be patient) but I'm not crying bc they made a move for the future either...*shrug*

And i think it is safe to say that Melo's prime is over. I think he's still top 10 but i don't think he's in his prime anymore.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

>i agree that phil has to do something this offseason
>that was the case no matter who they took.
Agree with that...but I guess my thing is why get a project versus getting a player who can contribute now AND later, and will only get better.

>I also wanted mudiay and would have been thrilled with that
>pick(what fan wants to be patient) but I'm not crying bc they
>made a move for the future either...*shrug*
We'll have to disagree on this one. Only because I'm not sold on Zingas at all. He BETTER be like Dirk or Pau, because I'm done with the Macjei Lampes. If he's like Gallo I'll be pissed too

>And i think it is safe to say that Melo's prime is over. I
>think he's still top 10 but i don't think he's in his prime
>anymore.
Don't know yet. His #'s have been steady, 25ppg with 7 rebs. I can only say a guy is past his prime when the #'s drop dramatically (outside of the player not having to do so much anymore). Because of his game, I'll give him 3 good prime years left. Since he doesn't depend on athleticism, he can still be a top 10 player in his prime

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>Agree with that...but I guess my thing is why get a project
>versus getting a player who can contribute now AND later, and
>will only get better.

Bc the belief is prozingas will be better than everybody else in 3 years.
>

>We'll have to disagree on this one. Only because I'm not sold
>on Zingas at all. He BETTER be like Dirk or Pau, because I'm
>done with the Macjei Lampes. If he's like Gallo I'll be pissed
>too

Oh i will be too lol. But *I* def don't have enough info to say who he's gonna wind up like. Only time will tell.


>Don't know yet. His #'s have been steady, 25ppg with 7 rebs. I
>can only say a guy is past his prime when the #'s drop
>dramatically (outside of the player not having to do so much
>anymore). Because of his game, I'll give him 3 good prime
>years left. Since he doesn't depend on athleticism, he can
>still be a top 10 player in his prime

Ok, I guess my point is that the days of him playing 80 games, 38 mins and avg 28 a night are probably over and that's assuming he comes back with his knee 100%

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

>but lets say for arguments sake the knicks land 2 of the
>below (which I think is realistic)
>
>Monroe
>Monta
>Millsap
>
>If Melo is as good as we think he is (top 10 at worst) that
>plus other smaller pieces could make the knicks as competitive
>as any team in the East not named Cle.


Good luck with that, homie....I mean, who is going to play defense?....lol

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

You'd still have those questions of who would play defense no matter what the knicks did last night.

As long as the knicks are in the playoffs with at least 44 wins this season and still have flexibility to improve next offseason i'm fine with that. I think Melo, Monroe, Monta plus others can get us there.

Anyone expecting the knicks to be contending and/or land something major this offseaon isn't being realistic. All the big name guys (Kahwi, Butler, Gasol) are probably staying home, i'm not overly excited about love, wade, deandre, and theirs a ton of suitors for LMA who may wind up in Por after all.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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I'm honestly not mad at Porzingis (I get it), but why we use our number 4 pick on him? in doing so we skip over getting a PG only to trade for a PG at the 19th pick. there was like 3 other PG's not named Russell available at the 4th pick. seems like we should have gotten a PG and then maybe traded for Porzingis later if we really wanted him so bad. seems backwards.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

I feel like they could have made it work regardless.

Perhaps moreso than any other player in the draft

So all that other shit is unnecessary

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I just have 2 points


1. The Knicks are TERRIBLE at developing players. I don't know what makes yall think they will develop Kristaps Porzingis in 3-5 years to be an all-star. They have ALWAYS failed at upgrading small attributes of players. ALWAYS. THJ = FAIL. SHUMP = FAIL. Novak = FAIL. Landry Field = FAIL. The list goes on and on. Also let me add, KNICKS FANS are terrible at being patient which is necessary for young players to grow. Kristaps first experience in NY was being boo'd, he will get used to that. Phil needed to pick an NBA ready player. That's the only player that can thrive in this city. Oh and lets even get into New York Knicks medical staff.

2. I don't like how this Knicks organization is so inconsistent in method of operations. Is it about Melo or is it about the triangle? Is it win now or are we rebuilding? Are we playing small or are we playing big? Phil just keep making moves that are radically inconsistent with each other. I believe Phil makes his decisions from just throwing darts on board.

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For them to be successful anyway. Whether that is mudiay, Kristaps or anyone else. I don't want management making a decision based on fans being impatient. That's been the problem since ewing left it hasn't really worked.

As for your 2nd point, it's obvious that the knicks aren't going to get any of the top free agents that would have possibly pushed the knicks toward contending to a chip, so instead of getting the best player now, they got who they think will be the best player down the line. Feel is gonna be going after 2nd tier fagents this offseason bc most of the studs gonna wind up staying home.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

>I just have 2 points
>
>
>1. The Knicks are TERRIBLE at developing players. I don't know
>what makes yall think they will develop Kristaps Porzingis in
>3-5 years to be an all-star. They have ALWAYS failed at
>upgrading small attributes of players. ALWAYS. THJ = FAIL.
>SHUMP = FAIL. Novak = FAIL. Landry Field = FAIL. The list goes
>on and on. Also let me add, KNICKS FANS are terrible at being
>patient which is necessary for young players to grow. Kristaps
>first experience in NY was being boo'd, he will get used to
>that. Phil needed to pick an NBA ready player. That's the only
>player that can thrive in this city. Oh and lets even get into
>New York Knicks medical staff.

i been told y'all this. shrug. that's why he's got 60m. either he stops the cycle or someone else ran jimmy's pockets and left the franchise fucked up. oh well.

save for okafor who has a high-caliber skillset anyone the knicks picked was going to need development. its not as if I trust fish to develop a mudiay either.

>
>2. I don't like how this Knicks organization is so
>inconsistent in method of operations. Is it about Melo or is
>it about the triangle? Is it win now or are we rebuilding? Are
>we playing small or are we playing big? Phil just keep making
>moves that are radically inconsistent with each other. I
>believe Phil makes his decisions from just throwing darts on
>board.

maybe with zingis and grant phil's thinking longer than his deal and future of the knicks. maybe he's putting melo in as tough a spot possible to see what he's made of as a leader (phil's agenda not mine)

truth is, nothing was going to make the knicks incredible on draft night. im kinda meh on the whole thing. i'd like the moves to work, but if they dont....so. it'll be like every other season.

>I just have 2 points
>
>
>1. The Knicks are TERRIBLE at developing players. I don't know
>what makes yall think they will develop Kristaps Porzingis in
>3-5 years to be an all-star. They have ALWAYS failed at
>upgrading small attributes of players. ALWAYS. THJ = FAIL.
>SHUMP = FAIL. Novak = FAIL. Landry Field = FAIL. The list goes
>on and on. Also let me add, KNICKS FANS are terrible at being
>patient which is necessary for young players to grow. Kristaps
>first experience in NY was being boo'd, he will get used to
>that. Phil needed to pick an NBA ready player. That's the only
>player that can thrive in this city. Oh and lets even get into
>New York Knicks medical staff.
>


Things were solid under Kenny Atkinson's watch




>2. I don't like how this Knicks organization is so
>inconsistent in method of operations. Is it about Melo or is
>it about the triangle? Is it win now or are we rebuilding? Are
>we playing small or are we playing big? Phil just keep making
>moves that are radically inconsistent with each other. I
>believe Phil makes his decisions from just throwing darts on
>board.
>
>

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I'd say Shumpert has actually developed into what was about the best case hope for him.

The problem is their roster usually has major holes in it where scrubs like Fields and Hardaway and Tony Douglas can actually come right in and get minutes and when they show any spark at all the fans overrate them and actually think they're promising young prospects.

Moves.

1 year, contract season....just gotta eat the luxury tax

Not sure how they get him tho.

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