This team is now as big of a laughingstock as the Bobcats.
This trade will rank up there with the Barkley trade as one of the worst of all time.
Hinkie is a retard. How in the hell do you trade your best player and keep Evan Turner???
This team is fucked for the next decade at least. I'm seriously considering bailing on this team. This has got to be one of the worst trades ever already. Fuck this team.
3. "Jrue isn't good enough to be remotely comparable to a Barkley trade" In response to Reply # 0
>This team is now as big of a laughingstock as the Bobcats. > >This trade will rank up there with the Barkley trade >as one of the worst of all time. > >Hinkie is a retard. How in the hell do you trade your >best player and keep Evan Turner??? > >This team is fucked for the next decade at least. I'm >seriously considering bailing on this team. This has got >to be one of the worst trades ever already. Fuck this team.
17. "LOL, this is a GREAT trade, we got Noel & a likely lotto '14 pick" In response to Reply # 12
so basically the consensus #1 for most of the year & probably a lottery pick (I'm sure N.O. protected Top 3 but they'll be somewhere mid-lotto) for Jrue & a second-rounder?
Where do I sign?!?!
Only issue is we didn't think Portland would take McCollum with Lillard already in tow so we land another Cuse chump.
32. "If we hit next yr in with the lotto picks it will have been worth it" In response to Reply # 17
If we pull Wiggins from it and another stud we'll be good. Hopefully we can flip Evan with whatever inflated numbers he'll be putting up and have a nice young lineup to build on. It'll be the best draft since 03, so there is plenty of potential. And contrary to your beliefs, I think MCW will work out well, especially if he gets paired with good picks next year.
13. "Too early to shit on it....." In response to Reply # 6
They're gonna suck next year so we have a legit shot at Wiggins. Plus, Nerlens could turn into something (although I'm not that high on him). Either way, the NBA is a superstars league. No sense in continuing to be a middle of the back squad that we've been since 04. I'd rather get real shitty, especially during 2014 which could end up being one of the best draft classes since 03.
MCW will be fine. The Sixers will lack scoring power something serious but that will work to their advantage this year. MCW is going to work out well for them, especially if they hit in the lotto next yr
25. "Yeah it was first reported as Jrue and a 1 for Noel" In response to Reply # 20
> >Jrue is good, but you can't even say Barkley's name there.
It makes sense now that its Noel and a 1 for Jrue. I can be at peace with that. MCW taking his spot helps. 2014 will follow 84, 96, and 03 as the next great draft so if we hit there it will be worth it.
49. "I was going off the original erroneus report that was Jrue & a 1st" In response to Reply # 44
straight up for Noel. In which case I would have been right on what I said.
The trade as is makes sense, banking on a great draft and FA class with some young pieces to build with. Still taking a big risk, but not crazy like it would have been otherwise.
24. "another big w hot knees. smh" In response to Reply # 0
For the best asset we had? We BETTER be terrible next season. The pelicans won't be. Watch us fuck around and be stuck with the 7th and 12th pick next season.
I can ignore that season ticket letter now though. Lol
54. "He was the consensus until that knee went." In response to Reply # 26
>for next year which will be in the lottery plus the guy who >was gonna be consensus #1 in this one. > >Again, the only real issue was they announced it too early, >Portland took McCollum & we got another Orange BadDreamsicle.
He wasn't the #1 pick because @ 19 he has an acl and plate growth something in his medical history. This is the biggest deal since the last time we traded for a 7fter with knee drama. As for next year's hopes and wishes. That's all it is. We could blow up the roster and end up with the 4th and 11th pick next year. No wiggins or parker. Then what?
BTW...I think McCollum vs Carter Williams is a wash.
The positive is I can save my cash and wait for the master plan to be activated in 2016? 17?
77. "RE: He was the consensus until that knee went." In response to Reply # 54
>>for next year which will be in the lottery plus the guy who >>was gonna be consensus #1 in this one. >> >>Again, the only real issue was they announced it too early, >>Portland took McCollum & we got another Orange >BadDreamsicle. > >He wasn't the #1 pick because @ 19 he has an acl and plate >growth something in his medical history. the plate stuff was already discounted & had nothing to do with the knee.
Unless you're Derrick Rose, ACL's are become more & more common to return from.
This is the biggest >deal since the last time we traded for a 7fter with knee >drama. AB was just drama, period, his injury history was way longer & his attitude was always shitty.
once he had a setback, he mailed it in because he never wanted to be here in the first place anyway.
Nerlens isn't a lazy baby, nor are we paying him 16 million dollars.
We're taking the guy with the most upside, plus another lotto pick, for our solid PG on a good contract who would be do a bigger one by the time we got good.
I'd rather bottom out now that the Bynum thing busted.
As for next year's hopes and wishes. That's all it is. >We could blow up the roster and end up with the 4th and 11th >pick next year. No wiggins or parker. Then what? > Then we still will suck, still have nobody committed to any real money & still have flexibility to do other things while maybe getting another pick again next year.
>BTW...I think McCollum vs Carter Williams is a wash. > One went to Syracuse & is historically considered athletic but inconsistent.
I hope to be wrong but on its face gimme CJ all day.
>The positive is I can save my cash and wait for the master >plan to be activated in 2016? 17? > If they get good young players, they become fun to watch for me even if they're not good. I loved every year of the early Iverson era including the first two because we were watching something develop.
I remember watching Stack & AI & Tim Thomas beat the Lakers in '97 at home and feeling like we won a damn championship because it'd been so long (seven, eight years) since we even had *anything* to look foward to.
Two of those three guys wouldn't really end up being part of the rising up process but it still felt cool figuring it out.
I won't miss really anybody on this team really that much, I still don't even miss Iggy, I would have loved to keep Jrue rather than Duck Sauce but unfortunately Jrue is our only piece of any value.
80. "agreed on all points...." In response to Reply # 77
Didn't realize but that trade freed up cap money going forward. Traded jrue on his old deal and got a pick back.
There was something local about a Thad to the kings trade. I didn't think they'd blow it up. Mucho cajones.
But great or be terrible. And you're right we have cap space and picks. And a gm who can wheel and deal. I'm interested, but I'm holding on to my season ticket money for a bit. ---------------------------- Same as it ever was!
34. "dog, this was never......ever......ever gonna happen" In response to Reply # 30
> >laugh at me if you want, but i truly believe jrue will be a >top 3 pg in the league. > buck up, little camper......this team was depressing with Jrue too.
at least now we're fully scrapping it & starting over right.
57. "Most efficient player in the league! Sike" In response to Reply # 55
He's got no offensive game beyond finishing around the rim off put backs or when set up. Probably would've gotten double figures just off size and athletic ability if he went to college....like Nerlens did. Who knows though.
Point one...comparing college stats to pro stats doesn't really work.
Point two...Noel doesn't have much offensive game at this point, but he's young and athletic and gifted, so maybe he'll get there.
59. "RE: Most efficient player in the league! Sike" In response to Reply # 57
>He's got no offensive game beyond finishing around the rim >off put backs or when set up. Probably would've gotten double >figures just off size and athletic ability if he went to >college....like Nerlens did. Who knows though. > >Point one...comparing college stats to pro stats doesn't >really work. > >Point two...Noel doesn't have much offensive game at this >point, but he's young and athletic and gifted, so maybe he'll >get there. > > he's got more than Chandler right now, that's not saying anything but that's my only point. I've seen him finish with his left hand more in 10 games at UK than Chandler in a decade.
60. "I think he should end up a better offensive player" In response to Reply # 59
I don't think he'll have the physical strength or experience to get himself in position to score 10-12 a game like Chandler for a bit though, but yeah I'd agree he's got more offensive potential.
Philly is going to have a tough time putting points up next year. I hope that fanbase will realize what's going on and be patient.
71. "RE: I think he should end up a better offensive player" In response to Reply # 60
>I don't think he'll have the physical strength or experience >to get himself in position to score 10-12 a game like Chandler >for a bit though, but yeah I'd agree he's got more offensive >potential. > >Philly is going to have a tough time putting points up next >year. I hope that fanbase will realize what's going on and be >patient.
the Sixers are like an invisible entity right now, they really have become such a futile & faceless organization to the general public in Philly that nothing that happens will get anyone too upset.
So it'll be fine for the tank part of the plan, the problem will be who is going to be the face of this thing for the rebound part?
58. "Looks like we have a head coach (swipe)" In response to Reply # 0
Don't know anything about him. You'd think he must be good, being on Pop's staff, but he wasn't even the lead assistant on that staff because that guy is now the coach in Atlanta.
Report: 76ers to hire Brown as head coach By The Sports Xchange | The SportsXchange – 27 minutes ago
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The Philadelphia 76ers will hire San Antonio Spurs assistant coach Brett Brown as their new head coach, the New York Daily News reported Thursday.
The 76ers have not confirmed the report.
Brown has worked as a Spurs assistant under Gregg Popovich for seven years. He had been the Spurs player development coach prior to that.
Before joining the Spurs, Brown was a head coach for nine years in the Australasia National Basketball League. Brown was the head coach of the Australian national team and led the Aussies to a seventh-place finish in the 2012 London Olympic Games.
64. "trade works for both parties imo" In response to Reply # 0 Fri Jun-28-13 07:15 AM by southphillyman
and now i don't have a reason to torture myself watching even a second of them playing next yr jrue gets to leave a shit franchise that had no direction the last few yrs and whose new direction is tank and hope the lotto balls fall the right way for a team with cap space and at least some since of direction right now davis, rivers, and ewok will be better wit jrue and now grevis can be a potential trade chip with his attractive salary the sixers get to spin trading a 23 yr old AS for 3 lotto picks to the 5000 ppl who will be in the arena next yr as they continue their perpetual rebuilding process and hold the crown as the most hated/ignored franchise in the city for the next 5 yrs most likely they should let MCW learn on the job next year under the tutelage of evan turner and stash theo ratliff jr for a yr while he heals his 200lb frame there's a small haitian thug community in the franklinville section of the city for his entourage to hang with should be interesting
79. "Stop with the All Star bullshit" In response to Reply # 64
It took like 3 injuries for that to happen. The same amount of injuries it took to get the Sixers out of the first round under Jrue and the shit team we are saying bye to.
"hey, make this right mayne stop at the light mayne, my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "
82. "Tallest midget in the circus.... so what" In response to Reply # 81
Is he now or will he ever be a top 5 player in the entire league? Winning a chip with a motley crew is very rare. Teams where 5 people need to score to win is really a team with a bunch of inconsistent scorers.
Also, why look at Jrue in the bubble of the Sixers? Shouldn't he be judged vs the league? Where he is at best 3rd tier.
He is not even a natural point guard. He makes very poor decisions and sucks in the pick and roll. You can tell he spent most of his developmental time at the 2.
"hey, make this right mayne stop at the light mayne, my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "
70. "OK, so Sixers DID NOT hire a new head coach (swipe)" In response to Reply # 0
Maybe its a good thing. Like I said previously, this guy wasn't even the lead assistant on Pop's staff, not that his staff wouldn't be good, but either way we'll have to wait a little longer and see.
Is the Sixers’ long search for a new head coach finished?
No, says new general manager Sam Hinkie.
According to a report in the New York Daily News, the Sixers are set to name Spurs assistant coach Brett Brown as the new head man.
“Not true,” Hinkie said.
Brown spent the last seven seasons as an assistant under Gregg Popovich. Before that, Brown was a player development coach for five years with the Spurs. He has also been linked to the head coaching opening with Boston.
As far as Brown’s imminent hiring in Philadelphia, though, Hinkie says it’s not close to happening.
“There was nothing of that substance that happened tonight,” Hinkie said. “There were a lot of things going on and that was not something that happened in the past few hours.”
Instead, after the draft Hinkie was busy putting together the Sixers’ summer league team, which will be coached by Michael Curry, Aaron McKie and Jeff Capel, holdovers from Doug Collins’ staff.
72. "I'm just going to hyperventilate and hope for the best" In response to Reply # 0
I have been saying they should scrap everything and start from zero for a long time. They are doing it now.
I am disappointed Jrue is gone, he was coming into his own and he was a guy that I liked from day one. That said, they got good return for him and a clear direction for the team. Now we've got two lottos this year, likely two more next year and everybody is on the same page age-wise.
The question here is obviously Noel's knees and MCW's development, but there is some upside to go with the doubts. Because of the potential pitfalls, these guys did slip a bit. If MCW were more consistent, he'd have been top 5, not No. 11. Had Noel's knee been fine, he'd likely have gone No. 1.
So I am just going to let this simmer. No need to have a doom and gloom reaction, but also no grounds to assume literally anything will work out here.
Like I said, this is a 100% fresh start. New coach, new GM, new ownership, new core, new direction. I have a small medallion of excitement with a heaping side of dread
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
That's the motto for this year as we give the young rooks a while to develop, as for that hashtag... maybe we should also consider adding #Pause to it as well :\
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