2. "Thats a killers row of casting across the board" In response to Reply # 0
I can’t think of a group of more inspired casting in a film across the board. Like even a throwaway role like asshole boyfriend #3 they got Jon Bernthal channeling in his Walking Dead Shane from that quick clip, lol. And im amped to see Kaluuya and Tyree Henry play bad guy muscle.
What’s crazy is the weakest link here is McQueen; while he’s one of the best directors working so far his pacing has been either beautifully filmed and slow meticulously paced to beautifully filmed and even slower meticulously paced. Going to be interesting here to see him push pedal to the medal in something that’s gonna be more akin to an action movie (then again, could be the trailer editing and this might end up being more of a thriller)
On another note, I'm glad McQueen is doing a less serious movie than 12 Years.
Granted there's no other place he could have gone, outside of The Middle Passage, that could be more harrowing. He's earned the opportunity to get some mainstream Hollywood love. Hopefully this is successful so he can get the opportunity to make his types of films.
9. "gets a bit lost along the way but crescendos superbly to the end" In response to Reply # 0
definitely McQueen’s most mainstream movie, even though the mix of themes (crime, politics, family, inequality) gives it enough weight to avoid being “just” a crime Oscar movie. Of course with Viola Davis playing this fierce and harsh, and well surrounded by a note-perfect cast, there was no way this movie could end up soupy and boring. Sumptuously filmed, with camera movements I’d follow till the end of the earth. The script loves itself maybe a tad much but I may need to watch it again because there’s a lot going on. Oh and praise be to Daniel Kaluuya who is bone-chillingly perfect. Someone give him a big starring role soon pls
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10. "A lot more of a Gillian Flynn pulpy thriller than I expected." In response to Reply # 0
This isn't "an Oscar movie" in the same way that Gone Girl isn't really designed to be an Oscar movie. It's full of terrific actors chewing the scenery, social commentary delivered with a sledgehammer, over-the-top dramatic Zimmer score, and plenty of intentional goofiness/B-movie scenes and lines. It might get Oscar noms regardless, but it's not a "serious" movie the way the Oscar label (or the name Steve McQueen in the credits) may lead you to expect.
I expected McQueen to dive further into serious character development, the way most of his previous work has done, but he seems to enjoy here the fact that he's mostly deploying rote characters with snappy zingers. A few characters get just enough backstory (usually delivered in a monologue) to keep them complex, but even the ones that aren't are still a lot of fun.
Daniel Kaluuya and Robert Duvall are both fantastic playing the types of pure evil characters that wouldn't feel out of place in a Tyler Perry movie, but here, y'know, the acting is good and the dialogue is good and the cinematography is good etc. This is the benefit of brilliant casting. He tosses Garrett Dillahunt and Kevin O'Connor both into roles that could've easily been cardboard cut-outs, but strong character actors and strong production value elevates it.
Plus, y'know, there's just the thrill of the fact that we don't see some of these things onscreen. As Viola Davis has pointed out in the press junkets, we open with a dark-skinned middle-aged female hero engaged in sexual open-mouth kissing. How often do we see that on screen in a mainstream studio movie? How often do we see a complex depiction of the escort lifestyle?
Finally, while some of the social commentary stuff clunks a bit imo, the depiction of politicians is absolutely dynamite, because its two main characters get the most complexity-- maybe even more than the widows do. Farrell is trying to win, not because he's pure evil, but because he can't imagine losing his position in life. He genuinely thinks his programs help people, but he also genuinely likes how much money it puts in his pocket. Meanwhile, Henry is from the neighborhood and wants the rich white outsiders not to control his neighborhood, but he also admits to running for office because it's a means for upward mobility. He's not a noble savior of the common man-- he just is tired of being a thug on a street level and aspires to the legal thuggery of politics. The fact that neither of these guys is a desirable candidate really resonates. (It also allows for a lot of fun monologuing from two actors that can *really* chew scenery.)
Overall a lot to enjoy here. It probably lags a bit here and there, some sequences drag compared to others, etc, but it's an elevated pulp bomb the likes of which we rarely get to see. So I enjoyed it.
18. "good stuff...." In response to Reply # 0 Mon Dec-03-18 11:09 AM by Voodoochilde
took our ma (67) to see it. Theater had all types of folks in there, which was nice to see (young/old/black/white).
We really dug it. Personally I dug the performances the most. EVERYone was good and seemed to be enjoying themselves. Some specific standouts for me were Daniel Kaluuya, Robert Duvall, Brian Tyree Henry (love everything I've seen from this guy so far), Elizabeth Debicki, Cynthia Erivo. Ma dug it too, and so did the 2 70+ ladies sitting next to us who we chatted with for a bit after the show.
so yep, I'd say this one gets a thumbs up. I know we enjoyed ourselves....
(I dug how it ended too, I thought that last scene was a nice touch...)