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las raises
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"The American (Corbijn)"


  

          

anyone gonna go check this out? comes out today, i will try to see it tomorrow or this weekend. no movies from focus have disappointed me so far.

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RE: The American (Corbijn)
Sep 01st 2010
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I'm surprised there was no post
Sep 02nd 2010
2
      clooney is ghost
Sep 02nd 2010
3
           I'll see Clooney in anything
Sep 02nd 2010
4
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING
Sep 02nd 2010
5
RE: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING
Sep 11th 2010
20
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgI2ZQVyrBo
Sep 13th 2010
27
I'm looking forward to it.
Sep 02nd 2010
6
meh.....one big meh
Sep 02nd 2010
7
you said it all right here ...
Sep 03rd 2010
8
it was a throw back
Sep 03rd 2010
9
From what I'm reading...
Sep 04th 2010
11
One the worst movies I have ever seen. Ever.
Sep 04th 2010
10
RE: One the worst movies I have ever seen. Ever.
Sep 05th 2010
14
I liked it a lot.
Sep 04th 2010
12
RE: I liked it a lot.
Sep 05th 2010
13
      although
Sep 05th 2010
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           RE: although
Sep 11th 2010
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Sep 07th 2010
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Why (Most) Of These Cliches Make This Movie Okay
Sep 09th 2010
18
Violante Placido is worth the price of admission
Sep 07th 2010
17
i dug the movie, but i applaud this response!
Sep 11th 2010
21
      yeah the setting was beautiful
Sep 11th 2010
23
I thought it was a good hommage to Antonioni
Sep 11th 2010
22
Very quiet. Very good.
Sep 12th 2010
24
my wife said this movie should be called "Titties Titties Titties!"
Sep 12th 2010
25
I thought it was excellent but...
Sep 13th 2010
26
saw it today. violante placido's nipples FTW
Sep 29th 2010
28
Very good movie.
Sep 29th 2010
29
I don't think Clooney's perf here has been mentioned enough
Feb 20th 2011
30
i didn't care for it much
Feb 20th 2011
31
note to sofia coppola: this is how you use long takes and silence
Feb 21st 2011
32
Just saw this no cable
Oct 30th 2011
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1. "RE: The American (Corbijn)"
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>anyone gonna go check this out?


Mos def

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2. "I'm surprised there was no post "
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At least not that I saw

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3. "clooney is ghost"
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'round these parts?

. . .
psn: sirius_fruits

but that shit's stupid though.

  

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4. "I'll see Clooney in anything"
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He's earned my trust/$$$s.

  

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5. "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING"
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There's only one reason to see this movie.

Violante Placido

You've been warned.

  

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20. "RE: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING"
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>There's only one reason to see this movie.
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>Violante Placido
>
>You've been warned.

is any other reason necessary? lol.


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27. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgI2ZQVyrBo"
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>>There's only one reason to see this movie.
>>
>>Violante Placido
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>>You've been warned.
>
>is any other reason necessary? lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgI2ZQVyrBo

  

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6. "I'm looking forward to it."
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7. "meh.....one big meh"
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I understand what they were going for with the torn, character driven story and the very minimalistic style.....but it was just too slow and I had no emotional resonance with clooney's character.

I loved the camera work and the settings were amaazing.....but it was far too slow and didn't do enough to make you actually care.

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8. "you said it all right here ..."
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>I loved the camera work and the settings were amaazing.....but
>it was far too slow and didn't do enough to make you actually
>care.


I'm not even sure wtf I just watched lol

  

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9. "it was a throw back"
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to foreign cinema and sergio leone

imma need some experts to fill me in on the rest


i don't know what i was expecting but that wasn't it
i blame the previews

took me a minute to figure it out and once i did
i settled in and was fine

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11. "From what I'm reading..."
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sounds like Corbijn is going for existentialism, while, like you said, throwing back to the kind of flicks Jean-Pierre Melville made so well.

Looking forward to check it out.

  

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10. "One the worst movies I have ever seen. Ever."
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Incredibly slow. Pathetic attempt at an "artsy" movie. Tons of completely unnecessary nudity.

It was just awful. I would much rather have watched paint dry.

It *was* beautifully shot, though.

  

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14. "RE: One the worst movies I have ever seen. Ever."
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>Incredibly slow. Pathetic attempt at an "artsy" movie. Tons
>of completely unnecessary nudity.

quite sad that anyone could find seeing violante nude completely unnecessary. but i have a thing for that woman anyway. lol.

>
>It was just awful. I would much rather have watched paint
>dry.
>
>It *was* beautifully shot, though.


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12. "I liked it a lot."
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Since I read a little about it before viewing, I was able to adjust my expectations and I'm sure that helped. The trailers were definitely misleading, but I guess they gotta make a buck.

It was definitely going for the Le Samourai vibe w/ its hero... the veteran assassin who we know next to nothing about that's always paranoid as hell. But I thought Clooney did a great job with it.

I thought the scene w/ Once Upon a Time in the West was cheesy and unnecessary, and I don't like when filmmakers do that sort of thing *coughtarantinocough*.

Some of the scenes were extremely tense. Really well done, and I think they would hold up with repeated viewings.

All that said, pretty much everyone walking out the theater said they hated it or fell asleep.

  

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13. "RE: I liked it a lot."
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>Since I read a little about it before viewing, I was able to
>adjust my expectations and I'm sure that helped. The trailers
>were definitely misleading, but I guess they gotta make a
>buck.
>
>It was definitely going for the Le Samourai vibe w/ its
>hero... the veteran assassin who we know next to nothing about
>that's always paranoid as hell. But I thought Clooney did a
>great job with it.
>
>I thought the scene w/ Once Upon a Time in the West was cheesy
>and unnecessary, and I don't like when filmmakers do that sort
>of thing *coughtarantinocough*.
>
>Some of the scenes were extremely tense. Really well done,
>and I think they would hold up with repeated viewings.
>
>All that said, pretty much everyone walking out the theater
>said they hated it or fell asleep.

i agree. i thought clooney did a great job. the solitary life of the character was portrayed very well. he was emotionally distant, not completely devoid of emotion. the tension was evident where it was necessary and one could see the distrust the character had for others around him. well played, imo.




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15. "although"
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>i agree. i thought clooney did a great job. the solitary life
>of the character was portrayed very well. he was emotionally
>distant, not completely devoid of emotion. the tension was
>evident where it was necessary and one could see the distrust
>the character had for others around him. well played, imo.


even i looked at padre like
um...you askin alooot of questions duke

and again with the questions


and more
i'm like padre is tryna die
f'real



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19. "RE: although"
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yeah, it was looking pretty grim for padre for a minute. he was pushing it.
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16. ""
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-hitman on his last job before getting out for good
-said hitman trying to make an honest women out of a hooker
-is hooker on his side or not?
-mysterious femme fatale spy (is she on his side or not?)
-evil boss who's assigning the hitman's final job (is he on his side or not?)
-rustic European setting, filled with small-town stereotype villagers
-wise priest who befriends hitman for no reason other than to pass on valuable life lessons
-butterfly/bird used as metaphor for life-death cycle

  

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18. "Why (Most) Of These Cliches Make This Movie Okay"
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by Duval Spit.

I have seen a few "last job" films in my time. I will not list my resume for you, but they're mostly older because I am an unreasonable curmudgeon.
I don't like guys who are trying to get out of this thing alive. "Live by the sword, die by the sword;" I want my hero to know he or she is going to die.
I like cold men and desperate women, be they pianists, typists, or hookers. No problems for me thus far, and yes I would like some nudity with that, thank you.
I like consistency of character, even when I disagree with it. I like a film that does not care whether or not I am surprised by its story so long as I am interested by it.

I, too, do not like the butterfly, mainly because of the aforementioned consistency of character.

I can ignore the butterfly.

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17. "Violante Placido is worth the price of admission"
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holy sh*t.

damn, that broad was fine.

we've got bush! (c) booger

lol

movie was kinda boring. no plot, but

again,

Violante Placido

we've got bush! (c) booger

  

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21. "i dug the movie, but i applaud this response!"
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the movie held my interest.

i've also traveled a great deal of italy, and i enjoyed the way this film was shot.

my girlfriend's family is actually from that region. i've never been to castel del monte though.

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23. "yeah the setting was beautiful"
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Definitely made me want to go back to Italy.

But...the nudity was funny. I mean Violante Placido was no joke, but it was like the nudity was thrown in there as an apology for all the guys that came to the theater not knowing what movie they were in for. Like, 'sorry guys I know you didn't expect all the subtitles and brooding silence and slow, atmospheric pacing but HEY NOW LOOK HERE WE GOT TITTIES FO YA BLAAA-DOW!

In fact I picture one or more of the producers refusing to back this movie until he was guaranteed several scenes of breastesses and at least one shot of full frontal.

  

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22. "I thought it was a good hommage to Antonioni"
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It played out like one of his movies, very much so in parts. Yeah it was full of cliches and the ending wasn't much of a surprise. But the tone was perfect, Clooney was good in it...I'm surprised it had a big opening weekend though. As many of the posts here imply, I would have assumed that the largest reaction would've been "BORING!!!" I mean, my wife and I liked it, but the friends that saw it with us either thought it was waay too boring, or fell asleep during it. I thought it would be an art house hit, but a box office flop.

  

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24. "Very quiet. Very good. "
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25. "my wife said this movie should be called "Titties Titties Titties!""
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I actually dozed off for a second.
but i blame it on the beer and sushi fest beforehand.

I think it could have been a lot more exciting.
but i did like it.
great use of tension.
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26. "I thought it was excellent but..."
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I was also laughing when I saw the people filing into the multiplex knowing they were expecting George Clooney in "The Bourne Supremacy" and not an Antonioni-esque, European film noir. There were alot of salty people in the audience where I was (Orlando, FL) = overheard quote "Well it got good reviews..."

I thought this was a very thoughtful, beautiful and well-planned film. Yes, the butterfly stuff should have been cut. Yes, he's dealing with a storyline we're all familiar with (the "good" hit man who just has one last job). But I thought Clooney sold the character and my interest was held throughout. I enjoyed the film quite a bit. The two gorgeous co-stars (esp. the Italian woman) didn't hurt its chances of success either.

  

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28. "saw it today. violante placido's nipples FTW"
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actually, i can't remember seeing a hotter collection of euro MILFey dimes in a non-porn film.

  

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30. "I don't think Clooney's perf here has been mentioned enough"
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as one of the notable performances of 2010 movies. Now, not exactly top 5 great but 6-10 slot worthy. (And, sure, he's better in Michael Clayton, Out of Sight, etc.) The tired and rightly paranoid qualities impressively expressed through his eyes and face. I'm not discounting the possibility that my attraction towards minimalist roles and performances is clouding my evaluation. Along with listening, watching another actor is more difficult than it looks, and Jack/Edward watching hot-ass Mathilde and supernova-hot-ass Clara in trying to get a read on them was a joy to watch.

  

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31. "i didn't care for it much"
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titties were nice

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32. "note to sofia coppola: this is how you use long takes and silence"
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really, really liked this film. borderline love. i can see how the slow pace would be boring to some, but i thought it was brilliant. compare and contrast this to coppola's somewhere, which used long takes and silence to purposely bore the audience, making us live the same mundane existence as the main character. in the american, it's used to build tension and convey information.

for example, it's not enough to tell us that jack builds guns. we have to watch the painstaking way he goes about it, we have to watch his eyes come alive in the mechanic shop as he hunts down the parts he needs, we have to watch him filing down bullets and building the silencer piece by piece. and, man, does it pay off in the end when mathilde goes to pull the trigger. a surprise that could have been overly convenient in other films, but in this one is perfect.

i also thought the scene in the woods where they're testing the gun was brilliant. mathilde's long walk up the hill to set the target, the sunlight silhouetting her legs, jack watching with the rifle in his hand, probably thinking about what happened to the last girl he got too cozy with, the long walk back down. and then her testing the gun, first one shot, a glance over as she adjusts as if to say "that one was on you, watch this," then a quick burst of perfectly placed gunfire. fantastic tension. fantastic use of silence.

it's not perfect though. the philosophical walk and talks with the priest don't go much of anywhere, and we've certainly seen the "make a stripper fall in love" story play out before (violante placido though... whew!), but none of it was enough to derail the thing.

some of the most beautiful camera work of the year. it almost looks like they're living in paintings. the final pan up... yes. one of my favorite movies this year.

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33. "Just saw this no cable"
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Like "Drive" with actual characters and minus the winking bullshit. And, yes, the girl playing the prostitute was head-explodingly hot.

  

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