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really, they are out there. i promise. $120 for a dvd set? you don't want to pay that? oh. hey, you also don't have to shell out $8 bucks for the new one. in fact, you don't have to see it at all! so this doesn't affect you in the least! isn't it great to know that you don't have to be upset about it?
>All the Turner networks broadcast poorly done versions
>retraced into color.
you mean, one the majority of people actually remember watching? the versions that like 80% of the popeye-remembering public DO enjoy?
The mostly bullshit ones that were made
>in Technicolor (save for the three Color Specials from the
>1930s) generally weren't worth the airtime they took up. It
>wasn't until I saw the black and white originals as a
>pre-teen/teenager that I even became interested in Popeye
>cartoons. The black and white versions aren't even shown on TV
>anymore (Cartoon Network used to have a "Late Night Black and
>White" show on Saturday nights, back when they showed cartoons
>worth broadcasting).
you just sound like on of those people who like everything old and hate everything new. hey, FUCK THE DARK KNIGHT!!!! it's all about those WWII era batman serials, back when batman was worth watching!!! lol. give me a break.
>Unless you wanna pay $120 for three DVD sets, the originals
>_aren't_ readily available for other people.
so... they aren't THAT much of a fan if they don't want to obtain the dvd's, right? like, life is complete without popeye cartoons, so no need to run out to best buy, right? not to mention you can easily download the ones from the 30's. so, yes, they are easily obtainable. sorry to burst that bubble.
>It's not about "what I liked as a child". It's about what I
>liked now.
if what you like now is the o.g popeye cartoons, you can download them. you can buy them. a new version still does nothing at all to the ones that you like, they are still there, they are still just the way they were/are. promise. of course, i am fairly certain that it's just not the same to you watching it on your new HD 42 Inch Flat screen, and you're probably pissed because an old, rickety, 12 inch black and white tv is the only way to really enjoy an episode or serial of popeye proper!
They can fuck up "Smurfs" all they want to, and I
>won't really care. The Smurfs show was bullshit from fade in
>to fade out. The Popeye comic strips of the 1920s, 1930s, and
>1940s are iconic (in case you weren't aware, Popeye originated
>in comic strips, not cartoons), and the cartoons - at least
>those made between 1933 and about 1948 - are classic works of
>American animation.
yes, they are classic works, but lol@smurfs not also being a classic work. it is very fondly remembered, just not the pure americana of popeye that goes back almost a century.
>And while obviously it has no negative effect on the old shit
>itself, it can have an effect on the success of the property.
>See also franchise-killing flops such as "Batman & Robin",
yes, the batman franchise was dead... for... what? 6 years? and it only ended that particular series of movies. seems they have done pretty well with the two films made since.
>"Superman Returns",
....and a new one is being made as we speak. what's funny is the nail in the coffin of those films was the quest for peace; the hammer was the pryor film, well, prior. so no, superman returns didn't kill the franchise.
the comics for both batman and superman are alive and well to this day. the cartoons were great and it seems every incarnation of them are cult classics. so how these two examples "killed the franchise" still needs to be explained.
>failures of the new products can negatively affect plans for
>new distribution/broadcast opportunities for other versions of
>the property, and can put ice water on any plans to try again
>and do something worthwhile with the property.
well, you seem to not want there to be any new incrnations of popeye, so this would seem to be in line with what you want. you assume it's gonna suck, but later on you say it will probably make the money it's intended to make, which pretty much guarantees further projects will be developed. so none of what you are saying makes any sense because you contradict yourself badly.
the other thing is, it's POPEYE. lets not act like the future of that property will be made or broken based off one 3D feature. it's an enduring franchise, an iconic one at that; i know it suits your purpose to have something to rail against, but a 3D film simply will not kill it. it will be just fine.
>Plus, in general it looks bad from an artistic standpoint to
>take a creator's work and throw out everything that made it
>unique in favor of making a quick buck. That's what happened
>with the Alvin movies,
the alvin franchise that's owned by the creators son? the movies that are making a shitload of money with a third one on it's way? the ones that have been a smashing success? how, exactly, was a franchise made about singing, talking chipmunks who take the human world by storm get cheapened with a string of feature films? what was unique about the show that was destroyed by the movie? nothing, acually.
>the Movie and Tom & Jerry the Movie,
pretty fondly remembered, actually. this is funny because i have had two conversations in the last week with people about this, one of whom is an old head who would just as soon live in a log cabin and hates anything BUT all the old school shit... loved the T&J movie. my girlfriend loves the T&J movie.
what's likely to happen
>with the Marvin the Martin and Speedy Gonzalez movies, and
>barring a small miracle, that's what will happen with Popeye.
what, exactly, will a big screen adaptation do to "cheapen" these characters? again, the originals are out there. and even if they weren't, a new version doesn't change that either, and all you would still have would be your memories of them.... which are also not cheapened by films you don't have to watch.
>Maybe if I explain it to you in other terms: suppose the Jonas
>Brothers re-recorded "Innervisions" - the entire album, all
>eight tracks - rearranging the songs to make them "catchier"
>for a modern audience. And suppose they fuck it up. Royally.
my copy of the original still works fine. not sure what the issue is, if they made a shit version that i have no plans on listening to even if it were decent. it doesn't affect me one bit.
>I mean, it doesn't ruin or cheapen the original, right? No one
>will ever remember "that horrible Jonas Brothers remake" if
>you bring up Stevie Wonder or "Innervisions" in casual
>conversation, right?
i dunno, i wouldn't, because i have no interest in it i wouldn't listen to it. of course you would probably listen just so you could have yet another pointless thing to bitch about that doesn't affect your life in the least bit. people remembering the god-awful jonas brothers remake of innervisions wouldn't do a damn thing to the original work. stevies version would still play just fine, and you wouldn't have to hear the other one.
>But I have a right to hold
>my opinion that the idea of making this film is some bullshit,
>if I feel like it's some bullshit,
you can feel however you want, your still wrong. being wrong doesn't preclude you're right to react however you want about something.
and if i feel like the work
>of the people responsible for making the original comic strips
>and cartoons could be trampled upon.
you can feel this way all day. you're still wrong, but it's ok to feel how you feel. you're just wrong.
And nothing you say is
>going to make me feel like I _shouldn't_ feel that way.
that's fine. but you're still wrong. this doesn't affect your life in the least. you don't have to watch the new one. you don't have to have anything to do with it. it's hilarious to watch you shake your fist as if this somehow erases the popeye YOU know and love though... just get a rapidshare account if you don't want to drop the bill to get the dvd's, and you have your fix.
i get that you'd rather bitch and piss and moan though, so carry on. sorry if i ruined your harumph session. -Sig-
“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"
-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.
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