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hip bopper
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"Is The Koln Concert the most beautiful jazz record ever?"
Thu Nov-09-17 07:22 PM by hip bopper

          

Keith’s improvisation was second to none on that record. There are some beautiful pieces in the realm of jazz, but this one is the most beautiful album in jazz.

Bare in mind that I’m not saying that this is the best jazz record ever even though a case can be made for it.

Feel free to say what you think is the most beautiful record.

  

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I don't know what kind of shit he was on when he recorded that album
Nov 09th 2017
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I think it takes more than that to make a quality jazz record.
Nov 09th 2017
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      you'd be surprised
Nov 10th 2017
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           Would that be the same with other labels though?
Nov 11th 2017
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                yes, it's more of the norm
Nov 11th 2017
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                     I can possibly see this if they have rehearsed prior to recording
Nov 11th 2017
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                          oh yes there's always variables, no question
Nov 11th 2017
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Bills Evans - Symbiosis
Nov 10th 2017
3
RE: Bills Evans - Symbiosis
Nov 10th 2017
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This was good
Nov 11th 2017
12
Bill Evans, the albums he recorded at the Village Vanguard
Nov 11th 2017
10
I am going to have to give more of a listen to Bill...
Nov 11th 2017
11
No n/m
Nov 12th 2017
13
Okay what is then?
Nov 12th 2017
14

Garhart Poppwell
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Thu Nov-09-17 07:38 PM

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1. "I don't know what kind of shit he was on when he recorded that album"
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but IT WAS SOME SHIT. Jazz is one of those genres where it's easy to record a quality album in a day or two, so you have tons of albums you could qualify so I won't go there in regards to beauty. But I like his playing on this more than anything else he did.

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hip bopper
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Thu Nov-09-17 08:51 PM

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2. "I think it takes more than that to make a quality jazz record."
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Looking a some of the documentary about Miles and what he put into his music. Also Mingus who would fuck you up if you weren’t playing right... but yeah he was on some shit when he did this.

  

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Garhart Poppwell
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5. "you'd be surprised"
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a lot of those Blue Note albums were cut in a single afternoon, or over the course of a few days. Jazz isn't like other forms of music that rely on recording technology to get its point across, it's more about how the band synchronizes and understands one another moreso than studio dynamics.

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hip bopper
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6. "Would that be the same with other labels though?"
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Garhart Poppwell
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7. "yes, it's more of the norm"
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remember jazz is based on spontanaeity and improvisation.

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hip bopper
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8. "I can possibly see this if they have rehearsed prior to recording"
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Yes if they are doing something spontaneous then absolutely.

This is my thought behind this... if you have more individuals recording with you i.e. an octet or orchestra vs. a quartet, duo, or solo venture then that would vary in recording time?

Also could this be varied between artists. I remember an interview with Kamasi talking about how the recording of The Epic took awhile... mainly because there were other project being done as the same time.

  

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Garhart Poppwell
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9. "oh yes there's always variables, no question"
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but if you look up some of these albums you'll find they were recorded over a weekend. Thelonious Monk was known for having to be forced to do multiple takes of his songs, but he always picked the first take more often than not.

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Madvillain 626
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3. "Bills Evans - Symbiosis"
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Esp that 2nd Movement. Breh gets a lil wet in the eyes when I listen to it.

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hip bopper
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4. "RE: Bills Evans - Symbiosis"
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I don’t listen to much of his stuff, but I will definitely check this out.

  

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hip bopper
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12. "This was good"
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I can see why you it appeals to you like it does.

  

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Kosa12
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Sat Nov-11-17 12:31 PM

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10. "Bill Evans, the albums he recorded at the Village Vanguard"
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Sunday At the Village Vanguard
Waltz for Debbie

those definitely get my votes.

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hip bopper
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11. "I am going to have to give more of a listen to Bill..."
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I’ve never gotten into him all that much. A record here and there. I’ve always listened to Keith, Herbie, Gil, Lonnie and Matthew for a majority of my listening on jazz piano as far a leaders go.

  

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14. "Okay what is then?"
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