I got the album, haven't heard it yet so I appreciate the snippets they played on CJ but I felt (and I can't believe I'm about to type this) that Juan Ep was the better interview
why? Rosenberg actually let these dudes TALK which is something that apparently CJ has a problem with and then of course, the "what happened here" questions to Primo about his classics
Another thing, as much of a douchebag that Dallas was, he balanced out the show Pete is cool, but he just pretty much co-signs and chea! nowadays
Primo got his shot in to Cipha, calling out his "i'm too cool for school" anti-hip hop schtick
But, let's see what happens when 15 goes on CJ cuz his Juan Ep with Chris Rock is a classic
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Thu Dec-18-14 05:31 PM
1. "I feel the opposite." In response to Reply # 0
At least with the 15 and Rock episode. It was kinda garbage to me. Quest went in there with the TOP 5 idea for the episode and the Rosenberg and Ciph couldn't keep the show on track.
Got into too much other stuff, not enough hiphop for me. And that's what Juan Ep is supposed to be.
The PRhyme episode was real dope though. So was this episode of the Combat Jack show.
2. "That last stretch of Dallas Penn was pretty bad. All he did was sidetra..." In response to Reply # 0
the conversations. I loved the old days when it was just Dallas and Combat going back and forth, but once the team grew it just seemed like Dallas wanted to keep winging it, and there wasn't much space for that anymore. When he came in to that first "Rap Genius" episode (he had been dissing them) without any actual points to make, that was the beginning of the end for me.
I'm a much bigger fan of Combat Jack than Juan Ep, but I don't see how his Questlove episode will be able to top Questlove & Chris on Juan Ep. Cipha & Rosenberg's opinions are part of the show, which allows them to sometimes break off into an interesting mini-debate. That's what made Chris & Quest on Juan Ep so good.
6. "RE: PRhyme on Juan Ep & Combat Jack" In response to Reply # 0
We all know Primo is a Legend but most of that show was about him and not the group and they could have engaged Royce some more (pause)
There were a few beats I wanted to know about..
Come Clean, Kick in the Door which is probably my favorite primo beat of all times..
and
The Crooklyn beat he did with them bells....
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13. "Damn even Adrian Younge couldn't tell where Primo got the samples " In response to Reply # 0 Sun Dec-21-14 09:29 AM by Garhart Poppwell
from to chop, and he hade the music. That's quite a testament to Primo's ear and technical skill. Of course you won't hear a peep about that part of the interview, as it doesn't fit the OKP narrative about his skill level, but it was pretty fascinating to hear how Younge thought it brought his inspiration to create music full circle.
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15. "The Juan EP/Combat Jack thing is mostly racial/cultural" In response to Reply # 0
Real black men tend to ID with Combat because artists can be themselves, and the conversations sound like actual black men talking to each other, outside of the limelight...sometimes that means less music details, less material covered, but it always means its more genuine
For example; I have read and heard dozens of Russell Simmons interviews and the MOST GENUINE one EVER was the one on Combat...by far.
Juan Ep is 100% music nerdom...the artists are not nearly as comfortable, but the interviews can be good because they are focused and nerdy (which there is NOTHING wrong with...sometimes hearing about that shit is good)
I tend to lean Combat, because I'm a strong African American man, and prefer to hear people be themselves at the expense of the details
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16. "Cocaine and pussy! (c) Russell Simmons in Amsterdam" In response to Reply # 15
I definitely preferred CJ's handling of PRhyme over Juan Ep. Cpmbat actually involved all 3 parties discussing the project, where Pete and Cyph nerded out over old Primo tracks. Not that there's anything wrong with that per se, but there was little discussion on the current project they are promoting. When Juan Ep does their Premier only interview, I'll tune in, but for PRhyme, Combat and co. did a better job
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17. "To borrow a nickname from Star of Star and Buckwild" In response to Reply # 15 Sun Dec-21-14 04:15 PM by Numba_33
the issue between Chuck D and Rosenslob is still in the back of my mind in terms of my preference between Combat Jack and Juan Epstein. Call it holding onto a grudge, but I can't get that out of my head when even I think about wanting to listen to that podcast. The fact a radio DJ in NYC would disrespect a NY hip hop legend is bad enough, muchless the racial politics of it bother me too much to let that go.
That aside, I don't like listening to the Juan Epstein podcasts in general because fuckface Rosenberg tends to make the interviews about himself a bit too much, and I just don't care enough about him to want to hear him interrupt guests so he can give his six cents on what the guest is speaking on. At least I've heard that from the few episodes I tried to make it through from Juan Epstein. The Chris Rock/?uestlove episode is about the only podcast I was able to stomach in full mainly because Chris Rock was able to speak long enough to give good insight on the questions asked. While Combat Jack does interrupt guests at times, I get the feeling he cares what the guests have to say given the depth of the questions he asks the guests.
18. "Rosenslob will never not be funny" In response to Reply # 17
>the issue between Chuck D and Rosenslob is still in the back >of my mind in terms of my preference between Combat Jack and >Juan Epstein. Call it holding onto a grudge, but I can't get >that out of my head when even I think about wanting to listen >to that podcast. The fact a radio DJ in NYC would disrespect a >NY hip hop legend is bad enough, muchless the racial politics >of it bother me too much to let that go. >
I can understand this stance, from both sides. I pretty much look at it like a kid talking to a man out of turn with flagrance, and that seems to be how Chuck takes it too.
>That aside, I don't like listening to the Juan Epstein >podcasts in general because fuckface Rosenberg tends to make >the interviews about himself a bit too much, and I just don't >care enough about him to want to hear him interrupt guests so >he can give his six cents on what the guest is speaking on. At >least I've heard that from the few episodes I tried to make it >through from Juan Epstein. The Chris Rock/?uestlove episode is >about the only podcast I was able to stomach in full mainly >because Chris Rock was able to speak long enough to give good >insight on the questions asked. While Combat Jack does >interrupt guests at times, I get the feeling he cares what the >guests have to say given the depth of the questions he asks >the guests.
Osse really seems excited about his guests, and that's why he cuts them off constantly. Talking over people because of excitement is something that happens a lot on that show, and even though it's annoying it doesn't seem to be malicious.
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