"Examples of the official version being worse than the demo/original?"
I downloaded the latest Snoop Dogg mixtape, That's My Work 3, because I generally dig Snoop's music.
The last track on there is listed as "Gangstas Don't Live That Long" featuring Mr. Porter, and I immediately recognized that as being a song previously called "Long Gone". It was originally featured on a Snoop project called Snoop Dogg Presents Unreleased Heatrocks, released through Myspace in 2006.
I say all this to say that they completely ruined the song on the latest mixtape by removing all the funky keyboard work.
82. "RE: Whereas I like the early "Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe" with her...." In response to Reply # 63
nah Gaga oversang for the vibe of the track. That and when she switched up the lyrics was super corny. Anna Wise fit the track's vibe perfectly, stayed in pocket and kept it chill.
7. "It did lack a lot of energy in comparison" In response to Reply # 3
but it also had a nice 3rd verse. I would've put the live version as a bonus track or something, but then again it did blend in nicely with Real People...
31. "but there's only one version......" In response to Reply # 9
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19. "What's the background?" In response to Reply # 11 Thu Mar-06-14 06:36 AM by Remedial
>I feel bad for saying this, knowing the background, but >Quicksand Millenium. > >(I hope ?uest doesn't see this!)
Also, never knew that it got an official release...
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39. "It was on the compilation, Homegrown" In response to Reply # 19
(I think that's what it was called...)
If my memory is correct, a lot of people here (Lesson) were wanting that joint to see some kind of release so ? tried to make it happen... I recall some post from him where he describes finding the Quicksand tape JUST in time to get it on the release. But once it dropped most of us felt like the original demo was better. I think the Homegrown version had the instrumentation redone. I also recall something about Thought not liking how he started his verse on the original.
maybe someone can find that post where ? was talking about it
72. "Yeah, YOU'RE RIGHT!" In response to Reply # 39
>(I think that's what it was called...) > >If my memory is correct, a lot of people here (Lesson) were >wanting that joint to see some kind of release so ? tried to >make it happen... I recall some post from him where he >describes finding the Quicksand tape JUST in time to get it on >the release. But once it dropped most of us felt like the >original demo was better. I think the Homegrown version had >the instrumentation redone. I also recall something about >Thought not liking how he started his verse on the original. > >maybe someone can find that post where ? was talking about it
Totally forgot about those releases...
Thanks for the reminder.
It's a shame that, as music fans in the digital age, it's SO EASY to accumulate so much music that you even forget what you've heard.
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25. "I loved "What You Do" before Neyo gave it to Chrissette Michelle" In response to Reply # 13
He did say "baby Boy" in the hook because it was a reference track but I edited it out by reversing those words. I also hate the way they mixed the snare in Chrisette's version
37. "The revampled "Boom" chorus just makes me so angry" In response to Reply # 16
>Hated all those extra sound effects they added. > >J. Cole "Lights Please" I liked the OG more
When the video came out I actually began to hate him. I hated that stupid video, I hated his stupid outfits (smh at those stupid shades), I wished ill on that stupid girl on the chorus, hated the stupid movie that they were showing stupid clips from. I also hated the fact that I'd heard stupid other songs from dude and they weren't nearly as good.
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60. "That video was what made me realize that your boy Royce is a bamma" In response to Reply # 43
Dude is really talented but for a long time it just seemed like he was trying too hard to be cool & street. It always seemed to catch up with him too. I remember a few years back where you said you saw him performing and somebody in his crew had a portable tv on their belt. Something else about the show was funny but I forgot what it was. Still lmao _________________________________________
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61. "Haha, I remember that post" In response to Reply # 60
I think was put it over the top was that not only did the dude have a belt-buckle that had a TV on it, but that the TV was playing a porno. Like, for what?
71. "Yes! So ridiculous. " In response to Reply # 61
>I think was put it over the top was that not only did the >dude have a belt-buckle that had a TV on it, but that the TV >was playing a porno. Like, for what?
Is it acceptable to stare at your boy's crotch to watch a porno?
They replaced all the nice keyboard work with a guitar lick which pales in comparison.
Also, the drum roll on the original track sounds like it was live while the one on the 2014 version sounds like a programmed sample.
I also liked the Summer Madness riff in the original track, which is now missing.
But, I think this is just another example of the dumbing down of hip hop production, although the final track isn't as bare as most of the emo-trap sounding tracks you hear nowadays.
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22. "Good example. There's a lot of Snoop/Death Row ones." In response to Reply # 0
I ain't got time to youtube all of them but I recommend trying to find the ones I speak of below. First one though is Kanye's "Family Business" which I thought was better with the stripped down, traditional piano rather than the glittered up one.
Snoop and Dre - Tha Next Episode (there's a version that was released years ago that I heard that was 100% different, that was supposed to be on Doggystyle but didn't make it cause of sample clearance issues. 100x better than the one from 1999, which was good but just didn't hit like the first)
Snoop - County Blues (for the "Dead Man Walking" album they dressed this one up, when it didn't need it. It sounded perfect the way it used to be. I'm not even sure you could find the original anymore but I had the original version on an old computer from the late 90s which was posted up with some other rare gems on www.snoopsdogghouse.com)
Tha Dogg Pound - Every Single Day (there's a radio version of this song that was released years back that I'm sure a lot of you heard...it was stripped down to just the guitar lick and drums and sounded way better. The version that ended up on another one of those Suge Knight "I wish I still mattered" Death Row albums added this strange distortion sound that was mixed wayyyy too loud, was unnecessary, and took away from the heart of the beat. Song was still dope but that sound was too much)
26. "Sporty Thievz/King Kirk - F^ck I Look Like" In response to Reply # 0 Thu Mar-06-14 12:49 PM by micMajestic
It went from the 1999 original by King Kirk of Sporty Thievz which was great. He was always the best rapper of the three anyway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4pnZILvOZo
28. "A few I can recall off the top of my head" In response to Reply # 0
Keri Hilson's "Return The Favor" was never a great song but it got significantly worse when they changed the hook and cut out most of its words.
Joe's "More and More" is not as good as R. Kelly's "More and More."
Jay-Z's "Ignorant Shit" with Don Demarco yelling all over it was better than the album version.
The 2004 version of Michael Jackson's "The Way You Love Me" was better than its posthumous release.
Some of the original versions of Marvin Gaye's "In Our Lifetime?" songs were better than the Motown album release and some of the demos from the "Love Man" sessions are better than either of the "In Our Lifetime?" versions.
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>>Jay-Z's "Ignorant Shit" with Don Demarco yelling all over >it >>was better than the album version. > >ahhh this is a good one.
With the extra verses and stuff.
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32. "alot of the time its because of a sample clearance issue" In response to Reply # 0
tribe's ORIGINAL mix of "Let's Start" bodies the album version. dilla's mix had more horns in it.
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93. "RE: tick, tick bang as well" In response to Reply # 42 Thu Mar-20-14 11:05 AM by Strangeways
I disagree with you completely because if the album version isnt cool at all then why did beyonce use and sample the beat for one of her songs. that beat of tick,tick bang on the graffiti bridge record is rad and i have even heard some artists in hip hop try to copy and sample that beat. that beat is hip hop and you should listen again.
59. "Talib Kweli- Black Girl Pain...." In response to Reply # 0
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The differences are subtle. Same song rerecorded and mixed differently.. . I think I just enjoy King San's Voice and delivery on the first. Less echo.. More grit and bass.
79. "Ghostface - Gorrilla Hood" In response to Reply # 0
The album version is mixed much better but I really like Solomon Childs chorus from the original, Ghost's hook is trash. The one thing that I did find funny is that CH Martin went out of business somewhere between the time of the demo and official version.
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83. "Pharcyde "My Soul" VS. "Devil Music"" In response to Reply # 0
I like the original version of this joint (My Soul) when it sounded much rawer and had the scratches up front & the vocals got a bit of echo to them but on the album version (Devil Music) the scratches are in the background and the vocals sound re-recorded.
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86. "OG version of Outkast "So Fresh So Clean"" In response to Reply # 0
I wouldn't say the official version is "worse" per se, as it isn't bad at all and definitely sounds more polished than the demo
But there are certain parts of the original version that I prefer, namely the drums hit a little harder (probably cause it was unmixed) and Andre's "do do-doo-do do doooo do" during the bridge
87. "Kanye had a bunch of them on his first few albums" In response to Reply # 0
A lot of those songs ad already been out on his mixtapes, and then he polished them up or was forced to change them up, and put them on the albums.
Hey Mama, Family Business, All Falls Down(with the Lauryn sample), the original Through The Wire where he really was rapping through the wire and wrongly said "same hospital where BIG and 2Pac died", the original Jesus Walks was a little different, etc.
89. "OG version of ghostface's "ghost deini"" In response to Reply # 0
the one with the beat used on that "ruthless bastards" song. he always performs that version at his shows. i guess it's "official" to a certain extent cuz it was on the canadian pressing. but the OFFICIAL pfficial version is that keyboard one we've all heard.
91. "i like that one too" In response to Reply # 90
i thought i read that cage didn't like the looped sample version--not that that's why they went with the album version, though. one of my favorite verses from him, btw.
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