like, Kendrick is getting love and sales for an album that ppl feel is genuine, rooted in a real street level experience, which, in hip-hop, means something

Drake is cool, but folks see him as a manufactured pop star who can rap good, but whose story of child-star rise to rap fame (in Canada no less) weakens his cred in an artform born in the streets

Canada... isnt jus lyke Compton?

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but can I just point out two things about the whole Drake-Kendrick situation?

1. Drake is kinda like 50 in a way...like how 50 would always talk about how irrelevant the rappers that he surpassed in popularity were when he was on top, then next thing you know, he became the embodiment of many of the things he ridiculed...I got nothing against him, but 2010s' 50 is a failure by '03-'07 50's own standards that he established while on top.

Drake is passive-aggressive though. He constantly talks about how he's just doin' him, and is successful at it, but doesn't understand why all these other rappers are so jealous--it's only indirectly Drake's fault that they're not winning. Drake acts like jealousy is the only reason a male rapper or rap listener could dislike him. Now, whether he is or not, he sounds jealous and up to his eyeballs in mad whenever Kendrick's name comes up.

2. Remember...2010, was it? Common made "Sweet", likely inspired by Drake and others, not necessarily about Drake in my view, but, as it seems to me, feeding off the things that Drake represents in order to make a certain aggressive sound. Common tried to express something like that, and people called him cowardly and accused him of sneak-dissing and, of course, jealousy. Drake was one of them, and he was vocal about it.

Fastforward to Kendrick and "Control"-mania...Drake drops "The Language", which...you can't tell me it ain't inspired by Kendrick in much the same way that Drake inspired "Sweet". And Drake "pulls a Common" in that whole situation. I wonder if he sees the irony.

Even though everyone who rules hip hop seems like he's king FOR.E.VER while he's hot, it's always funny in retrospect how quick rap karma moves.

>like, Kendrick is getting love and sales for an album that
>ppl feel is genuine, rooted in a real street level experience,
>which, in hip-hop, means something
>
>Drake is cool, but folks see him as a manufactured pop star
>who can rap good, but whose story of child-star rise to rap
>fame (in Canada no less) weakens his cred in an artform born
>in the streets
>
>Canada... isnt jus lyke Compton?

Where is the evidence of Drake's envy of Kendrick? What does he have to be envious about? He's more successful commercially and just as acclaimed critically. He is well respected in the eyes of the public, critic and his peers.

I think GKMC is better than NWTS or any of Drake's albums, but Drake has a solid body of work as well. Drake's commercial success makes it easier for an artist like Kendrick (also very cerebral and self aware) to pop commercially. Not to mention Drake being on one of Kendrick's highest topping singles...

Drake came up acting, as we all know, but he has paid his dues. He came up in the Houston rap scene and is tied to one of rap's longest tenured crews. And in 2014, is rap even still street anymore? Regardless, what does he have to be envious about?

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>>like, Kendrick is getting love and sales for an album that
>>ppl feel is genuine, rooted in a real street level
>experience,
>>which, in hip-hop, means something
>>
>>Drake is cool, but folks see him as a manufactured pop star
>>who can rap good, but whose story of child-star rise to rap
>>fame (in Canada no less) weakens his cred in an artform born
>>in the streets
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>>Canada... isnt jus lyke Compton?
>
>Where is the evidence of Drake's envy of Kendrick?


There are a few instances, but two standout.....

His weird passive aggressive quotes following Lamar's "Control" verse being one of them...Every other rapper that got name checked (besides Papoose who took it to a very idiotic place...) either went in the studio to answer Kendrick Lamar or they praised the records' spirit....

But Drake pulled the whole, "No one has even memorized that song" comment.....It was a moment of bitch-madeness....(new word!)

Oh yeah...A colleague of mines who recently interviewed him for a magazine (that shall remain nameless) mentioned how Drake became VERY defensive and agitated when Kendrick's name was brought up...

Obviously, the Macklemore quote is less proof....But once u start to see those cracks it's easy to fish....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

He's probably sick of being asked about Kendrick when his stuff is still poppin.

Eh, Kendrick "allegedly" had an indirect response to Drake's "alleged" indirect response, so it kinda goes both ways.

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>He's probably sick of being asked about Kendrick when his
>stuff is still poppin.
>
>Eh, Kendrick "allegedly" had an indirect response to Drake's
>"alleged" indirect response, so it kinda goes both ways.


Nah...he's just sick of being pitted as the ultra-commercial dude that's soft and appeals to chicks...

Oh yeah...I got it wrong...My boy didn't even ask him about Kendrick...Drake brought him up (and not even by name) on some subliminal shit...lol

Drake is in a weird place...Commercially he is the biggest rapper on the planet in 2014....But he is in the same place LL was in 1988-89 (who could forget when Cool J got booed at the Stop The Violence rally)....He is immensely successful but a lot of people have no use for him and think he's a sensitive dick...

Drake finds it hard to take that in when he's on top of the world...And then Kendrick comes along...

When you start shitting on dead actors taking away your cover it's easy to see what's happening....

I'm looking forward to see dude make his Mama Said Knock You Out....It's going to be interesting...

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I get the comparison...super popular rapper with a large female and non Hip Hop following but LL still had a lot more respect as an MC than Drake does. The whole booing at the Stop The Violence rally was more about him being seen as a "relic" MC who had no type of socially conscious material in his music (imagine that happening today).

>Drake is in a weird place...Commercially he is the biggest
>rapper on the planet in 2014....But he is in the same place LL
>was in 1988-89 (who could forget when Cool J got booed at the
>Stop The Violence rally)....He is immensely successful but a
>lot of people have no use for him and think he's a sensitive
>dick...

>
>Drake finds it hard to take that in when he's on top of the
>world...And then Kendrick comes along...

That's another big difference between Drake & LL. LL seemed much more comfortable with who he was than Drake does. He didn't roll with a crew, he didn't jump on guest features for credibility. He was a stand alone MC that not only was the cornerstone of building Def Jam while having that crossover appeal.

>When you start shitting on dead actors taking away your cover
>it's easy to see what's happening....
>
>I'm looking forward to see dude make his Mama Said Knock You
>Out....It's going to be interesting...

He doesn't have a Mama Said Knock You Out in him. He's more Kwame than LL. He can have a hugely popular album or single but he'll never make an album as important to Hip Hop as Radio, Bad or Mama.

>I get the comparison...super popular rapper with a large
>female and non Hip Hop following but LL still had a lot more
>respect as an MC than Drake does. The whole booing at the Stop
>The Violence rally was more about him being seen as a "relic"
>MC who had no type of socially conscious material in his music
>(imagine that happening today).

No...the booing was about LL being perceived as too arrogant and out of touch to appear on the "Self Destruction" record...There were a few other folks at that event that were not making socially conscious songs...But they didn't get booed....The irony? LL went around Russell Simmons' stupid ass cock block of Def Jam acts/Rush acts (beyond PE) and sat in a corner with MC Lyte to co-write her part for "Self Destruction"...

But the public had little little knowledge of this...They just saw LL as the biggest mainstream rapper on the planet who was seen as an arrogant asshole...LL was going to get shitted on regardless...

And again...I never said LL and Drake were the same...I said that in their respective era, the criticism and hate that was thrown at them share some similarities....





>>Drake finds it hard to take that in when he's on top of the
>>world...And then Kendrick comes along...






>He doesn't have a Mama Said Knock You Out in him. He's more
>Kwame than LL. He can have a hugely popular album or single
>but he'll never make an album as important to Hip Hop as
>Radio, Bad or Mama.

Nah...Let's be clear here...Drake made a very important album...A landmark album...The So Far Gone mixtape is indeed that album that basically signaled hip-hop's change...To the youngins Drake is their Jay-Z...He is the Leader of the New School literally...That album changed A LOT of things for better and for worse...

That's why Drake is so sensitive...Because he craves the respect of his peers and critics and the industry...

And most of the time he doesn't receive the peer/critical/industry love that say Kendrick receives....

If you were the biggest selling hip-hop act in the world, could sell out arenas coast to coast and also happened to be overtly sensitive, it's not hard to see how you would react...lol

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

But I'm just saying LL started from a much more respected place than Drake did.

>No...the booing was about LL being perceived as too arrogant
>and out of touch to appear on the "Self Destruction"
>record...There were a few other folks at that event that were
>not making socially conscious songs...But they didn't get
>booed....The irony? LL went around Russell Simmons' stupid ass
>cock block of Def Jam acts/Rush acts (beyond PE) and sat in a
>corner with MC Lyte to co-write her part for "Self
>Destruction"...

That's what I mean about being out of touch. The other folks weren't the biggest rappers in the world at that time. That always makes you a target.
>
>But the public had little little knowledge of this...They just
>saw LL as the biggest mainstream rapper on the planet who was
>seen as an arrogant asshole...LL was going to get shitted on
>regardless...

Agreed
>
>And again...I never said LL and Drake were the same...I said
>that in their respective era, the criticism and hate that was
>thrown at them share some similarities....

I said I can understand why you would make the comparison I just wanted to point out that the similarities are slight and that LL was much more respected than Drake is.
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>>>Drake finds it hard to take that in when he's on top of the
>>>world...And then Kendrick comes along...
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>>He doesn't have a Mama Said Knock You Out in him. He's more
>>Kwame than LL. He can have a hugely popular album or single
>>but he'll never make an album as important to Hip Hop as
>>Radio, Bad or Mama.
>
>Nah...Let's be clear here...Drake made a very important
>album...A landmark album...The So Far Gone mixtape is indeed
>that album that basically signaled hip-hop's change...To the
>youngins Drake is their Jay-Z...He is the Leader of the New
>School literally...That album changed A LOT of things for
>better and for worse...

But the difference is that change isn't universally celebrated in Hip Hop. Even the harshest LL critic knew that "Radio" was great and he really wasn't seen as the outsider that Drake is and his rep as catering to the ladies wasn't until later on. Drake came out of the box as the Canadian kid actor who made chick records.
>
>That's why Drake is so sensitive...Because he craves the
>respect of his peers and critics and the industry...
>
>And most of the time he doesn't receive the
>peer/critical/industry love that say Kendrick receives....
>
>If you were the biggest selling hip-hop act in the world,
>could sell out arenas coast to coast and also happened to be
>overtly sensitive, it's not hard to see how you would
>react...lol

Can't argue with that at all.

then of his "street roots"

Bandcamp/IG/FB/Twitter: @hecticzeniths

the critical acclaim is partially bc Kendrick's music is perceived to have a hip-hop legitimacy that Coffee Cake's doesnt

Drake sells & gets props

kendrick sells, gets props AND has street/hiphop legitimacy

thats important to Drake it seems

he's soft & an outsider & it's eating him up

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making what sounds much closer to a classic rap album existing in the 2010s, vs. Drake making music that sounds *too* influenced by 'swag rap'. GKMC sounds influenced by Outkast and Nas etc., Nothing Was The Same has the little nods to Wu-Tang and what not, but definitely sounds further removed from being a 'classic rap album'

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hell they bump Beyonce too from according what I heard those few weeks when that album was everywhere with Drunk In Love/Partition bass rattlers. "Started From the Bottom" was a huge street hit.

But, Drake being Drake, he reads the Rollingstones, the Pitchforks, etc. Dude won't have pop rap sewn up in a year where Eminem drops a new record in addition to the rise of Macklemore, and he won't have the critical acclaim when Kendrick drops such a well curated and planned concept album.

With Take Care he had the best of those worlds, with this record, neither. Most people wouldn't care, but...

Kendrick don't have many club hits or shit you play at a party

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

Kendrick is still from Compton & Drake is still from Toronto

even w/ Drake as the soundtrack i feel like K could walk streets that Drake would need a bodyguard for

these are the perceptions anyway & i think those perceptions make Drake a little green

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cause nobody would know who the fuk he is

Drake is a very recognizable superstar

but even with that said thats still a dumbass statement to make

you think Lil Wayne can walk the streets of Magnolia without security nowadays?

you think Jayz is kicking it around Marcy with no security?

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it diluted my point

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"Street dudes" play his hit songs the same way they might play Trey Songz or Beyonce but as far as the respect factor there's no question that Kendrick is held in higher regard.

http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

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but like iv said dude reps his city and his background proudly

if he was so bothered by kenny he would've changed his whole steez on NWTS

but he went even more into his lane and still killed shyt

yal gotta stop with these dumbass narratives


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the envy is there, it's clear

now i surmised that his envy is rooted in Kdot being more accepted by "heads" bc his background & narrative are connected to growing up in the hood

now, whether you, i or anyone thinks this is relevant to being good at rap music makes no difference

my point is that, perhaps its the lack of a real (ie not manufactured by being down w/ YMCMB or throwing bottles at Chris Brown) street level connection to the culture that causes cats to value Kenny's narrative more, and that perhaps this bothers Drake, whether he fronts like a thug or not (from my understanding k dot isn't necessarily on that shit either)

maybe im projecting &, not being a street dude myself, i can relate to being frustrated & envious that that earns one cred from heads

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>maybe im projecting &, not being a street dude myself, i can
>relate to being frustrated & envious that that earns one cred
>from heads

like i said if Drake was so envious and wanting props from 'heads' he wouldve switched his whole steez on NWTS

he did the opposite and went even further in his lane

Drake cares more about getting props and respect from legends than the dusty ass backpack brigade on the internet

and its funny legendary backpackers fuk with drake and his music

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.26804/title.talib-kweli-says-drake-is-the-most-important-rapper-of-2013

"Drake. Drake is killing them. Drake is making honest music. He's making hit records. He's got lyrics for the dudes and he's got subject matter that any human being can relate to, dude or female. He's just really killing the game. He's really turned himself into the rapper to check for, and the number one emcee, the top tier emcee."

Kweli also said that Drake has great potential, if he is consistent with his work.

"If he can maintain his relevance for another couple years, he'll be considered one of the greats up there with your Tupacs and Biggies and Jay Zs and even Kanye Wests. But Drake has doing a great job this year."

i find it amazing how much yal think yals opinion on rap is relevant

yal really r in yal own lil world with lil to no knowledge of what is really going on


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thats notup for debate

he's jealous

what do u think the root of that jealousy is, since i am wrong?

and lol @ played out attacks on backpackers &using cornball ass Kweli to make a point

Kweli is a coward who sucks off anything popular bc cats lime u shamed him into hati g what he once stood for

either that or his ass bankin on getting features from his dick sucking

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http://www.vanguardredmagazine.co.nz/oddisee-outtakes-1/

"It’s all about that Drizzy Drake man. He’s like my favourite artist. I’ve had people unfollow me on twitter when they found out I was a Drake fan. It’s a great filter for me, when it comes to getting rid of closed minded individuals .I’m a huge Drake fan."

lulz

what's up with the six thing btw?

and u do kno that ur opinion of drake being jealous is just that right?

an opinion.

a dumb one

but an opinion none the less.

I'm still waiting on ur explanation for ur contradictions btw

uv had like 8 hours to pull sutten out ur ass

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where Oddisee's opinion on Drake has any bearing on my opinion of Drake bc Im a fan of Oddisee?

that's just weird


and thats far from the only thing O has ever said that i dont agree w/ or feel him on but thats absolutely irrelevant to my enjoyment of his actual MUSIC

i remember reading an O interview where he said Kanye is the artist he'd most like to work with ... i lolsmh'd and put on one of his records

your bizarre one dimensional thinking really isnt worth my time

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and try to discredit his opinion

and to also show that drake gets respect from the underground too

people who know good and honest music tend to fuk with drake

im still waiting btw




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>and try to discredit his opinion
>
>and to also show that drake gets respect from the underground
>too
>
>people who know good and honest music tend to fuk with drake
>
>im still waiting btw
>

there are not two "sides" to reconcile

my dislike of drake and my dislike of nihilistic subject matter in hip-hop are in no way, to any reasonable person, mutually exclusive

but maybe, just maybe, you arent that smart

your attempt to shame me into accepting Drake's greatness bc Oddisee is a fan is precious tho

but if you haven't noticed, im not the type of groupie ass follower that you pride yourself on being

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i dont like drake or the influence he's had on rap, i don't like nihilistic content in rap or the influence it's had on rap

these opinions can comfortably reside in the same brain

there are no goalposts to move

your question is answered

again

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gave him his own interlude on Take Care, and did a feature for him on GKMC. Drake sees it as he looked out when Kendrick was still coming up so why call me out on Control?

Jealousy is not the issue. They were cool until Control.

gamertag: MF ANDE

If anything he was saying those are the guys that are at the top of the game right now, and I'm out here trying to be better than them, so they better step their game up cause hip hop is a competition. He was giving props where it's due, but at the end of the day he's trying to be the best and distance himself from 2nd place as much as possible, cause that's what it's all about.

Except most of the other people GOT IT and said "Okay Kendrick, I see you, lets go" while Drake got butthurt.

If anything all the great rappers out right now who he ignored to mention on Control should be as unstable as Drake is over the whole thing.

>If anything he was saying those are the guys that are at the
>top of the game right now, and I'm out here trying to be
>better than them, so they better step their game up cause hip
>hop is a competition. He was giving props where it's due, but
>at the end of the day he's trying to be the best and distance
>himself from 2nd place as much as possible, cause that's what
>it's all about.
>
>Except most of the other people GOT IT and said "Okay
>Kendrick, I see you, lets go" while Drake got butthurt.
>
>If anything all the great rappers out right now who he ignored
>to mention on Control should be as unstable as Drake is over
>the whole thing.


This is the bottom line^^^^^

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

But it's the same reason Kane beefed with Slick Rick. Rick said in a magazine he'd destroy Kane in a battle and Kane got mad. Kane felt like if they asked him that question he would say, Rick's my man it wouldn't get to that point. Drake probably felt like Kendrick was his man especially since he went outta his way to help him. I agree he needs to let it go but rappers are pretty damn sensitive.

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>But it's the same reason Kane beefed with Slick Rick. Rick
>said in a magazine he'd destroy Kane in a battle and Kane got
>mad. Kane felt like if they asked him that question he would
>say, Rick's my man it wouldn't get to that point. Drake
>probably felt like Kendrick was his man especially since he
>went outta his way to help him. I agree he needs to let it go
>but rappers are pretty damn sensitive.


They are not the same things....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

I'm not sure why anyone doesn't get that.

>If anything he was saying those are the guys that are at the
>top of the game right now, and I'm out here trying to be
>better than them, so they better step their game up cause hip
>hop is a competition. He was giving props where it's due, but
>at the end of the day he's trying to be the best and distance
>himself from 2nd place as much as possible, cause that's what
>it's all about.
>
>Except most of the other people GOT IT and said "Okay
>Kendrick, I see you, lets go" while Drake got butthurt.
>
>If anything all the great rappers out right now who he ignored
>to mention on Control should be as unstable as Drake is over
>the whole thing.

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>gave him his own interlude on Take Care, and did a feature
>for him on GKMC. Drake sees it as he looked out when Kendrick
>was still coming up so why call me out on Control?

Drake gave Kendrick a look, absolutely. But Drake is constantly making efforts to tap more into the "real hip-hop crowd." He shouts out Phonte in thank you speeches, he shouts out/samples Wu-Tang, he kept an affiliation with Kendrick. But he plays it as just "paying homage" as opposed to trying to make it seem like he's trying to tap into that fan base and attach himself with the appropriate acts. He wants that fan base badly because those are artists he looks up to, and also because he wants that respect *and* the mainstream success.

Similar to what Jay Z does whenever he collaborates with the current hottest artists, though perhaps not as desperate.

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He seems to feel (probably rightly so) that Hip Hop is rooting for Kendrick to a certain degree to "dethrone" him. I also think Drake is not your typical, competitive, I wanna be the best MC type of dude. You can tell even the way he tries to downplay the Control verse by saying "well people can't even remember how the song starts". He's really a pop dude that because he raps to express himself gets lumped in with a bunch of dudes that he doesn't really have much in common with. I don't get the feeling that Drake is the kind of guy who has spent hours, days, months of his life arguing about how sick some old Canibus verse is or how underrated Monch is.

>like, Kendrick is getting love and sales for an album that
>ppl feel is genuine, rooted in a real street level experience,
>which, in hip-hop, means something

I think he's looking at it like damn I am a superstar, houshold name, major headlining artist and this dude that can barely get radio play in his own hometown and just now went platinum is being being compared to him . People can talk all they want about sales, money, girls, etc but in the end everyone still wants to be respected and I think Drake feels that he has been unfairly shitted on by Hip Hop.
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>Drake is cool, but folks see him as a manufactured pop star
>who can rap good, but whose story of child-star rise to rap
>fame (in Canada no less) weakens his cred in an artform born
>in the streets
>
>Canada... isnt jus lyke Compton?

>I don't get the feeling that Drake is the kind of guy
>who has spent hours, days, months of his life arguing about
>how sick some old Canibus verse is or how underrated Monch is.

I don't think Kendrick was doing this either

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>>I don't get the feeling that Drake is the kind of guy
>>who has spent hours, days, months of his life arguing about
>>how sick some old Canibus verse is or how underrated Monch
>is.
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>I don't think Kendrick was doing this either

If you listen to Kendrick...especially his early mixtapes, you can definitely hear a huge Canibus influence. He's studied Kurupt big time. You hear Pharcyde influences. On the mixtape he did with Jay Rock called "No Sleep Till NYC" he's spitting over Tribe, Gangstarr & Rakim. He definitely comes across as a student of lyricism and not just a fan of the biggest artist with the most platinum plaques.

he's had his success and will have more, let the man have his and don't worry about what other people do or don't go
how much fucking attention do you want?

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When Drake finally became a rapper and blew up people started to realize he was that Nick-teen actor, he ain't got no street cred, his family is between middle-class & rich, plus he's related to Al Green, he ain't got no street cred, other than being a ghostwriter for a hood rapper and being down with him.

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Is there a way we can all slap ourselves in the face at the same time?

this post is more about legitimacy & envy of lacking legitimacy than it is about the streets

its definitley some Pavlovian responses in here tho

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People thought Drake and his ilk had "destroyed the mold" until the real thing showed up. We will always prefer the original article.

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wow

for u to be saying that street rappers are poisoning the Black community and then turn around and shyt on a dude like Drake who even tho gets love from the streets, isnt on that hypermasculine Black thug trap rap that uv spent so much of ur time on here shytting on.

thx for proving once again how fukin full of shyt u r phillip.

i appreciate

doing all the work for me

not that i was going to anyway cause i really could care less about ur opinions of anything relating to black culture and music

but its just funny to see u lay out ur bullshyt in plain site

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you trying to paint him as some sort of antithesis or cure to those issues in hip-hop is so precious, i gotta hear more

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>you trying to paint him as some sort of antithesis or cure to
>those issues in hip-hop is so precious, i gotta hear more


read his response to you again.

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And Philpot never said anything about Kendrick being "hypermasculine Black thug trap rap",
so....


yeah.

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or stay out the conversation.

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Dallas Heatvricks BACK 2 BACK CHAMPS!!

You said the shit on a public message board without explanation.
If you want me to know, tell, reference, post a link.
Otherwise I'm reading you say right here.

Foh with this insider, saga continues bullshit.

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Everything's turning out perfectly

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>trying to paint cuim as some sort of antithesis or cure to
>those issues in hip-hop is so precious, i gotta hear more

just exposing ur bullshyt contradictions

a rapper that doesnt glorify selling drugs, killin people and other ish u harp on that's poisoning Black youth

in turn u shyt on him for not having that image and being himself.

Hes never lied about his upbringing or where he's from

Not saying he's a 'cure' to those things plaguing the Black community

just not understanding ur contradictions

unless u never really gave a fuk and ur diatribes were just an angle to shyt on black people and be racist


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>>trying to paint cuim as some sort of antithesis or cure to
>>those issues in hip-hop is so precious, i gotta hear more
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>just exposing ur bullshyt contradictions
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>a rapper that doesnt glorify selling drugs, killin people and
>other ish u harp on that's poisoning Black youth
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>in turn u shyt on him for not having that image and being
>himself.
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>Hes never lied about his upbringing or where he's from
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>Not saying he's a 'cure' to those things plaguing the Black
>community
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>just not understanding ur contradictions
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>unless u never really gave a fuk and ur diatribes were just an
>angle to shyt on black people and be racist
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>Dallas Heatvricks BACK 2 BACK CHAMPS!!


but i want you to dig the hole a little deeper so that i can REALLY have fun when i feel like humoring this bullshit

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whenever you did these things to the least of my brothers you did them to me

the content ive criticized in rap music is definitive of "the street"

when one says "the streets" they must be referring to violence, drugs, sex, materialism, etc


discuss

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whenever you did these things to the least of my brothers you did them to me

Can u be a lil bit clearer in whatever point ur trying to make


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but then again he doesnt need to cause no matter what people will complain.

I know his fan boys have a hard time believing people actually don't like him.

either you like him or you're 'mad' about whatever it is that he's doing that's being championed by his acolytes

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Just to reiterate how much u don't like dude and think he sucks over n over

yea

totally makes since


let me go make some mac miller post real quick

iv totally been missing out on this dope logic of yal
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Dallas Heatvricks BACK 2 BACK CHAMPS!!

>Just to reiterate how much u don't like dude and think he
>sucks over n over
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>yea
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>totally makes since
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>let me go make some mac miller post real quick
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>iv totally been missing out on this dope logic of yal
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Other than posting seriously.

But I did post a very fair question.

You just never have any answers.

yes

2

one when his album was dropping

and another one when he was on SNL

yal Drake haters are responsible for like 95% of Drake related topics on this site

the fuk kinda logic is that

theres prolly only like 2 kendrick lamar topics in the lesson with over 20 replies (i dont care enough to search)

yal give an artist yal cant stand more attention than artist yal fuk with

the hell kinda backward ass shyt is that

like u literally only show up in GD for Drake topics

explain that

i'll wait

its 65 degrees and sunny out and im bout to get the challenger washed and go cruising when this load of laundry is finished


and i missed the question

what were u asking me again?



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you want ur boy to blow up, to make all these snide comments about other rappers but u don't want him to have to face criticism himself

doesn't work like that

you get big, cats are gonna let their issues be known

the fact he's handling it like a passive agressive bitch just makes folks go harder, especially in a popular climate where dissent & criticism has been marginalized due to the almighty dollar

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whenever you did these things to the least of my brothers you did them to me

>yes
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>2
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>one when his album was dropping
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>and another one when he was on SNL
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I wasn't even talking about your posts...I was talking about Drake posts in general. I'm in this one asking a fair question and I'm in the other one giving an honest answer.

>yal Drake haters are responsible for like 95% of Drake related
>topics on this site
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>the fuk kinda logic is that
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I can speak on anything I want personally. This is music discussion right? Oh, that's right...you don't want music discussion outside of you sucking Drake's dick through a computer screen.

>theres prolly only like 2 kendrick lamar topics in the lesson
>with over 20 replies (i dont care enough to search)
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I didn't even say shit about Kendrick.

>yal give an artist yal cant stand more attention than artist
>yal fuk with
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I actually have never once made a post about Drake. I post about people I like.

>the hell kinda backward ass shyt is that
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>like u literally only show up in GD for Drake topics
>explain that
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>i'll wait
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Actually, I only go into GD for music related topics and very select other posts. But you wouldn't understand how much sense it makes for a Drake fan to be on the internet discussing GD topics as if they have no friends in real life. My honest opinion is, every fuck in GD has no life. I'm here solely for music and handle all other shit in real life with people I know.

>its 65 degrees and sunny out and im bout to get the challenger
>washed and go cruising when this load of laundry is finished
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Sounds good to me. Maybe Drake can ride shotgun and give you a hand job or if your lucky, some road head.

>and i missed the question
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>what were u asking me again?
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Exactly. You don't want music discussion. You want to be a bitch about people not liking Drake.


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I'll ask this again very plainly

6yrs of commitment to shytin on Drake in just about every Drake post made

what's the point?

What are u trying to accomplish?

r u simply venting ur frustrations?
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>I'll ask this again very plainly
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>6yrs of commitment to shytin on Drake in just about every
>Drake post made
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>what's the point?
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>What are u trying to accomplish?
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>r u simply venting ur frustrations?
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Let me break this down for your slow ass.

I came into a Drake post and posted a question to someone else in order to have a discussion.

You proceeded to come into the same post and attempted to push me and Phil into the back and forth (which you claim you don't want) by ignoring the question and bitching about people not liking Drake (telling me you're not doing the back and forth bullshit.)

So fuck you and fuck your question until you want to have a discussion about what I originally came into the post for because I'm not in this post or the other Drake post saying anything negative about the love of your life.

iight man

thought i should atleast ask to get a better understanding

or if you are your intellect is subservient to your emotions

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whenever you did these things to the least of my brothers you did them to me

You don't get to ask questions without answering those that were first asked.

Especially not when you're a young super-sensitive Drake fan.

Spend less time on the internet sucking Drake's dick and find a site you can purchase some balls.

Then go outside and find a female dumb enough to talk to you and attempt to have sex with her.

And if you need instruction you can always shoot me an inbox man.

Don't be scared though...it's not that serious.

I'll even let you sing Wu-Tang Forver to the girl after you close the deal.

all those insults over a simple question?

smh

this shyt really that upsetting to yal huh?

y?

Its just a simple question

its been 5yrs and still no answers sway..

insults and childish name calling doesn't bother me btw

especially from the likes of u all
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And I'll keep saying it until you get it...

Until you answer questions you can't make demands for other to answer questions.

Not sure what's so difficult to understand.

So until you say something of value...I'm done responding.

all his queeries have been answered but he doesnt like the answers so he's just trolling bc the dick of Drake compells him too

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whenever you did these things to the least of my brothers you did them to me

especially for someone mid 30s

very mouthbreatherish

i mean yals behavior is odd but i know where im posting and what kind of folk im dealing with

so i accept it to an extent

anyway

getting sidtracked

>And I'll keep saying it until you get it...
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>Until you answer questions you can't make demands for other to
>answer questions.

i asked what it was u was asking and got no response

lets try this again

ask me a question

i'll answer

and in turn u can answer mine

cool?

no insults

no overly-sensitive responses

just answers




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simple question

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whenever you did these things to the least of my brothers you did them to me

Not sure why he couldn't scroll up to find that out

people r free to like what they like

iv had music discussions with folk on here about his music where iv argued his rap ability etc

but i dont even bother to do that anymore

its pointless when folks r 5yrs in-bedded into an agenda

i just dont get the time and devotion to sutten yal dont fuk with

whats the point of stating how much u think drake sucks over n over the past 5yrs?

its perplexing

like i really dont fuk with mac miller

hate his songs

his image

his voice

his fukin sweaters

much like the ish yal say about drake

accept i will admit that he can rap

it just aint for me

therefore i just avoid anything mac miller related

u wont find me in a mac miller post

hell this is prolly my 1st time even mentioning how i dont like dude on here

i dont click on post about him

i dont try n shyt on folks who do

etc etc

its that simple

i know hes not as big as drake so its easier to avoid on here

but with that said majority of the post on here r made by people who dont fuk with dude

dont understand

y?

any answers yet?




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*proceeds to post list of grievances as to volume & duration of said criticism*

you're a fucking idiot dude

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whenever you did these things to the least of my brothers you did them to me

smh
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Dallas Heatvricks BACK 2 BACK CHAMPS!!