"Poll question: Alright, Section80 vs good kid, m.A.A.d city"
2 weeks with this album might not be long enough for some, but for others it might... Both are great albums... Both contenders for album of the year (2011 and 2012)... Which one do you like better?? And why??
6. "RE: i think GKMC is more thorough" In response to Reply # 1
yea.. to me tho Sec. 80's standouts trump GKMC..
I also am not a total fan of the production on GKMC... it's dope... but none of those beats could stand on it's own cept for the Hit Boy joint maybe
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2. "Good kid for sure. With Section 80, the highs were probably as" In response to Reply # 0
as high as the highs on Good kid...but the lows tended to be lower, usually when his sound stepped out the box too much. He wasn't as polished on the artist side just yet, so the layering he does on some of the hooks like "Don't kill my vibe" is straight ridiculous.
7. "I'm not sure Gaga was on that song." In response to Reply # 5
She did a song with him called Partynauseous. It was originally supposed to be on the album. When the tracklisting for GKMC came out, Gaga wasn't listed. So |I THINK|that the folks who leaked the tracklisting, expected her to be on there and threw her name on the track that seemed to make the most sense.
I'm not sure where else this story is coming out that she was on BDKMV... maybe ya'll know something I don't though.
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10. "there was talk she was on a demo version or something." In response to Reply # 7
and Pitchfork gave her credit for a vocal somewhere in their review, so unless they go back and correct it at somepoint (or she's uncredited on some Michael Jackson) that'll eventually be the widely held idea I bet even if it isn't true.
3. "Really? 16-0 for GKMC?" In response to Reply # 0
Don't get me wrong, the album is great, but this voting may be a bit of the "post release fog" cuz GKMC is heavy in the headphones right now.
GKMC is formatted better as an album but S.80 broke the mold for Kendrick, its when he found his sound (as much as I hate to say shit like that). The album was like the nail in the coffin but S.80 is what killed it in the first place
4. "GKMC is a much better overall body of work" In response to Reply # 0
I can see someone making a case for section 80 having better stand out songs (i.e. Rigamortis) but GKMC you can really listen to it all the way through its an experience you can just continue over and over again.
That shit is a real album in a days where folks don't make anymore. Section 80 was a great mixtape/album but it does not have the overall focus, replay value and overall effectiveness as GKMC does as an album.
9. "I would like a tie option" In response to Reply # 0 Sun Nov-04-12 11:57 AM by Nodima
on my convoluted songs + overall enjoyment scoring system, GKMC scored an 8.95 and S.80 scored an 8.94...they're equally great in different ways. Section.80 has a lot more individual highs, it's still the album I'd use to introduce people to Kendrick without question (and it's throughline is underrated in comparison to GKMC...it's not as interlaced but there's definitely a concept there too). GKMC is just impressive as shit, but once you get used to it there's a little bit of "being in the mood" required to go back...I get the feeling it's going to be this year's Dark Twisted Fantasy, where all the praise and admiration doesn't necessarily translate into extended listening months down the road (I don't subscribe to this being a criticism, just an observation). Other than "Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe"'s chorus rattling through my head at random times of the day I've pretty much moved on from the album already, but I listened to Section.80 for a solid year and it got better and better to me over time, while GKMC's quality was more instantly apparent (maybe because I'd come around to Kendrick by then).
Whereas R.A.P. Music and Life Is Good can be enjoyed on their own terms in pretty much any moment.
20. "yeah." In response to Reply # 16 Sun Nov-04-12 11:38 PM by forgivenphoenix
but if people are really comparing the two as similar artists, i think that's a knock to both.
a better comparison might be like Jay is to Nas. Jay is accomplished and talented in his own right, but more of a pop star than Nas is.
Nas' high points artistically (Illmatic, It Was Written) might be more artistically pleasing than Jay's best work tho (Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint).
Kendrick is a better artist in the emotional / craftsperson sense of the term, but Drake has a better ear for pop music.
i don't think Kendrick really wants Drake numbers because he would have to water his sound down and compromise his style. but while Drake doesn't have the technical skill to do what K.Dot does, there is something to making anything that a million people want to listen to.
Honestly I see that Kanye comparison. To me this album while crazy, will not command repeat listens a year or so from now. While whenever I hear "gather round" I get a smile on my face. Section.80 had a nice narrative throughout and to me spoke up for a generation. This album mostly just speaks for Kendrick, and there's nothing wrong with that.
22. "^ co-sign, especially the..." In response to Reply # 9
"gotta be in the right mood" part about gkmc. The tone of the album makes it only listenable during a more somber mood IMO, long term. Now I'm banging it regularly cause it's new and really good. But down the road I don't see me being in a great mood, looking for an album, and picking this one.
Like you said, too, the above means NOTHING in terms of how I feel about the quality of the album overall. It's great. Just will require a certain mood to toss it on, it feels like.
24. "i thought there was no way he could top section80" In response to Reply # 0
but he ran with a similar concept, and developed it more fully, came with better beats, better hooks, and he sort of found his own voice (whereas Section80 he sounded like a bunch of other rappers on different tracks, most notably Pusha T and Kanye).
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25. "Damn you heard the Pusha T style too? Especially on Hiiipower" In response to Reply # 24
"Frightenin....so fuckin frightenin" I seriously would have that pop up in my head and think it was Pusha T, then I'd be like "hold on......that was Kendrick???" Same with the "Who said a Black man in the illuminati" line, I even see it debated by a lot of Kanye fans.
30. "RE: Damn you heard the Pusha T style too? Especially on Hiiipower" In response to Reply # 25
Yeah Pusha T influence was all over Reagan Era too. I remember people talked about it a little bit on here when the album first came out, btu it was so dope people were a little more forgiving. I'm glad he sort of developed his own voice more on GKMC
29. "for what it's worth...." In response to Reply # 0
I've already gotten tired of GKMC. I put it on for like 3 or 4 songs...and I didn't even listen to it for the first time til like a week after it dropped. On the other hand, I played Section 80 for months. Just one person's opinion, though.
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31. "Now that the hype has died down" In response to Reply # 0
I listened to GKMC again and it really is awesome. I have been on the side that section 80 was better but now that GKMC is out of the shadow of impossible expectations I think that It is really the better album. I may need to do the same thing with The Dark Knight Rises.
Or rather, I was leaning "Section.80" anyways but even more so today because I think I just burned out on GKMC. It's one of the few albums where me, my girl, and majority of friends (the non-music heads) ALL liked so it was the default album on at all times for awhile there.
And actually, some of them still play it consistently and I don't hate it or anything, but I AM like "guys, he DOES have some other albums" haha. __ I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!
Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno
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