http://www.datpiff.com/Rick-Ross-The-Black-Bar-Mitzvah-mixtape.402975.html

the cover is ridiculously hilarious
add rich forever + god forgives and i don't + ?(bbm) = great output from ro$$ this year
maybe we'll get a "i love my bitch" remix

That tracklisting was looking good.

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good thing it's a mixtape. Still, I dunno how long he'll go on w/that up, LOL

"Capitalism will never fail because socialism will always be there to bail it out." - Ralph Nader

a mixtape to get the "streets" back...

Meek Millz is what everyone is waiting on...Ross need to fall back wit this.

ain't nobody tryin to hear Ross be like wayne and make a dedication/no celings type shit..Ross don't have the flows or personality to remake songs and go back over classic beats...His best talent is picking original beats and hooks.

This is not what the people want.

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKLJTHTq9JE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m7o-Phwgmw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPuzcC1y6yU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06zhXr-FykE

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OL' DIRTY BASTARD on himself:
"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

that is not his lane at all...

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

I'd much rather listen to Ross over popular beats than Wayne in 2012.

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OL' DIRTY BASTARD on himself:
"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

them shits just not that good just another "freestyle"

HE not the type of person to make it "his song"

like the way Wayne "skys the limit" made you forgot "Mr. Jones"

or the way Jeezy "I'm from GA" made folks down here forget NY song.

That's just not the artist he is.

D4 probably be better than this is if he stick with the rapping over ole school and popular beats

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

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back tho...maybeit helped...but he had So sopshistacted, Amen, Flexing, Burn. and some other shits that's been killing. His name was hot as hell...NOw Amen has sorta came down maybe YOung and gettin it will pick it back up but that song prob won't be as big.

folks do love him tho. and even folks who hate MMG (wale and ross) give props to Meek for his cred and his rise from bottom to top and how he been on the scene and finally made it.

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

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Someone put a stop to this FUCKERY. Wale dropped a new single last night? Rick Ross dropping a new mixtape on Monday? MEEK MILL'S ALBUM COMES OUT IN 24 DAYS. ALL EYES ON MEEK. C'MON, MMG.

I think it's a ploy to distract people because Meek is probably going to outsell Ross and it won't look good that the student outshined the master, so Rozay & co. are throwing the proverbial banana peel in Meek's way. DIRTY.

Look at this tweet:

https://twitter.com/MeekMill/status/253936928985067520

I rest my case.

Dreams & Nightmares. October 30th.

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

they done let his buzz die down now...that young and gettin it song might hit I don't know..

but when Amen and flexin was poppin he was killing it...they should have stuck with the original release date.

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It's a bit old school to think that releasing free product=crashing the commercial side.

We already had a supposed stunt this week where Death Grips looks like they 'leaked' their album only to use the hype to announce a tour a few days later.

I don't see how a well received Rick Ross mixtape would hurt Meek considering if on it, will presumably have the best verses, lol.

Rick Ross has been following the same 'flood the market' idea in his own career, I can't really see it as a 'fuck that dude' ploy when he eats off of Meek sales too.

and he trying to regin him in.

I know he hearing folks saying Meek the hottest and best in the click right now and he has that cred that Ross has lacked his carrer.

Even folks who hate Ross and Wale give Meek props cause they like him and how he hustled from the bottom to the top.

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

Dude, get off Meek's dick and speak for yourself. YOU don't want to hear a Ross mixtape. YOU are waiting for Meek's album. YOU think Meek is better than Ross. EVERYBODY ELSE will decide for themselves.

Blah blah You feel...obviously I wrote it

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

>Someone put a stop to this FUCKERY. Wale dropped a new single
>last night? Rick Ross dropping a new mixtape on Monday? MEEK
>MILL'S ALBUM COMES OUT IN 24 DAYS. ALL EYES ON MEEK. C'MON,
>MMG.
>
>I think it's a ploy to distract people because Meek is
>probably going to outsell Ross and it won't look good that the
>student outshined the master, so Rozay & co. are throwing the
>proverbial banana peel in Meek's way. DIRTY.
>
>Look at this tweet:
>
>https://twitter.com/MeekMill/status/253936928985067520
>
>I rest my case.
>
>Dreams & Nightmares. October 30th.

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"House Party", "Burn", "Amen" and "I'm A Boss" get HEAVY airplay on the radio, not to mention the MMG posse cuts he's on. Meek is a star, and he has one thing Ross doesn't: the realness factor.

He's definitely going to outsell Kendrick Lamar, who I like more personally, but doesn't have the appeal Meek does. Can he outsell Ross? I think so. Wale did 170K first week without as much radio play. Ross did 225K. That's only, like, 15K more than J. Cole's first week numbers. Dreamchasers 2 is supposedly one of the most-downloaded mixtapes of all-time according to DatPiff's analytics.

It's not a stretch. I think Meek could do, worst-case, 190-200K first week. Best case? 250-275K.

Esteemed author of the celebrated, double-platinum post: "Drake - Wu-Tang Forever".

If 2Chaiz and Future didn't do those type of numbers I doubt Meek will ...

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But Future, who is actually one of my favorite artists right now, is practically universally loathed by most fans. Future is mainly embraced by the bloggeratti/intelligensia.

Esteemed author of the celebrated, double-platinum post: "Drake - Wu-Tang Forever".

>But Future, who is actually one of my favorite artists right
>now, is practically universally loathed by most fans. Future
>is mainly embraced by the bloggeratti/intelligensia.

i figured it'd be the opposite.

i dont know anybody IRL that likes future besides me.

i mean, get past the voice trickeration. this dude is a master (by modern standards) at writing songs.

<--- Big Baller World Order

...so naturally, I love Future. Great songwriter, good ear for melody, super versatile. I think a lot of people are just quick to write things off as bullshit the second it challenges their own pre-conceived notions of what "hip-hop" is "supposed" to be. Shit, I didn't hear people start to call Flockaveli a classic for almost six months after it was released. The difference between Waka & Future, though, is that Future can actually RAP. Waka relies more on energy.

In time, I think people will come around on Future.

Esteemed author of the celebrated, double-platinum post: "Drake - Wu-Tang Forever".

"No Lie" did NUMBERS because we're in a singles game right now, but 2 Chainz is kind of a joke. I think the fact that Meek is very much himself and not an exaggerated version of himself or a walking CB4 character does a lot for him.

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2 or 3 album run tops and no classics.

he could prove me wrong though.

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His output this year has already been a disappointing decline from the Albert Anastasia - Teflon Don days, though not that disappointing since he was mostly garbage before then.

I have no expectations for this if it's freestyles; if it's originals, it'll probably be average and worth no more than a week of spins like his other stuff this year

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and what God Forgives should have been...solid Lex luger Burners juxtaposed with the smooth gangster Maybach music shit he's done.

Ross avoided the trap of the 'street' mixtape diluting the real record, he got caught in it this year.

If Rich Forever was paired down a little and the unfortunately titled "Mine Games" was cut, along with filler like "MMG The World Is Ours", "Party Heart" & "Last Breath", it would have been the classic Ross was missing from his catalog. "Stay Scheming" made a bigger splash than anything off his studio album.

Esteemed author of the celebrated, double-platinum post: "Drake - Wu-Tang Forever".

>"Stay Scheming" made a bigger splash than anything
>off his studio album.
>

>>"Stay Scheming" made a bigger splash than anything
>>off his studio album.
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...than say, "Touch'n You" (ugh) and "So Sophisticated". Even "Three Kings", probably the most anticipated song off GFID, was a dud aside from Jay's verse.

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

sm2
rich forever
gfid

you could get 2 full albums of straight bangers.

<--- Big Baller World Order

But front to back, none of that shit is very enjoyable past a week or two.

I'll admit Stay Scheming grew on me the past two weeks (yea, it took that long) but I didn't enjoy it much in the context of the tape, I was just exhausted at that point every time.

Sixteen was the best song on GFID and it wasn't GREAT, just very good, solid. The two best songs were the remixed bonus tracks from Rich Forever, the rest of the album was boring, by-the-numbers shit that just didn't hit. Ross and his producers came off like all it takes to make an engaging rap album is to sound like it's an engaging rap album. It reminded me of watching a CBS sitcom where everything LOOKS like it's a great comedy, and everyone's telling me it's great comedy, but all I can appreciate is the professionalism.

Looking back on how I felt about Rich Forever, I might like it more if I went back to it now. A lot of my scores for those songs sort of baffle me (Triple Beam Dreams got a 4.75 - 5 on God Forgives but a 3.25 - 4 on Rich Forever...) but it was the same deal, where it was just pummeling me with Ross. Teflon Don was great, and Albert Anastasia and Deeper Than Rap were really enjoyable, because ALL (well, besides bullshit like Face) of the trash and formulaic shit was dropped in favor of concise, well crafted albums. Since the MMG album the deal seems to be just throw shit at the wall and expect it to stick. Since I HATED Ross other than "Hustlin'" until AA/Deeper Than Rap, it's real easy for me to fall back into being bored by him if he doesn't bring his 110%.

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Ain't no room for antisemitism in this hip-hop shit ask your man Professor Griff.

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ass the peas...

ro$$ keeping the 4th quater hot
meek is about to son k.dot & a$ap real quick
mmg owns the radio and everything from lotus flower to so sophisticated still gets play
if we had to power rank rap camps like the nfl, mmg is a strong 2. behind ymcmbovoxowhatever
sad thing is good music had a chance to be number 2, sean is playing his roles
defjam pump faking with the pusha album may need to call malice
& cruel summer was lite, still had mercy which was the song of the summer

>ro$$ keeping the 4th quater hot
>meek is about to son k.dot & a$ap real quick

I would have agreed with you but the Kendrick snippets got me rehyped for the album. Meek's is sounding good though.

>mmg owns the radio and everything from lotus flower to so
>sophisticated still gets play
>if we had to power rank rap camps like the nfl, mmg is a
>strong 2. behind ymcmbovoxowhatever
>sad thing is good music had a chance to be number 2, sean is
>playing his roles
>defjam pump faking with the pusha album may need to call
>malice
>& cruel summer was lite, still had mercy which was the song of
>the summer

Kanye only signed rappers good for one verse in a posse cut.

lol
it's more free music for us, who gives a fuck otherwise
ppl in here making up conspiracy theories just to crowbar hate into this smh

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start rapping or is that just mine....maybe he is holding Meek back lol

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

Not bad meaning bad but bad meaning reeeeeaaalllllyyy bad. And I still play GFID and Rich Forever fairly often. Super forgettable and not Ross at his best.

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and nonsensical fanboyism male groupie ish.

Who cares do you niggas work for MMG/ Defjam/ Universal?

Rick Ross is a one trick pony wit dope beats lack luster raps who gets out shined by everyone except Stalley and the lobotomized rapper French montana.

Who cares how many records Meek Mills sells does that really validate his music as better than other major label debut release?

Only thing separating Ross from Jeezy is production and he was smart enough to sign artist that can keep his "label" going when his one trick pony runs out of time.

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>
>Only thing separating Ross from Jeezy is production and he was
>smart enough to sign artist that can keep his "label" going
>when his one trick pony runs out of time.

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

spot as hood favorite trap rapper.

A least Jeezy has a actual history in selling drugs but he is a sub par one trick pony rapper.

Ross doesnt have diversity and his time is running out.

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he has that empathy and remorse that Ross lacks jeezy is not subpar at all.

His single off TM103 was a slow song about the downside of F.A.M.E.

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

did it work with his fans?

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Jeezy actually expanded to folks who wasn't fuckin with that trap shit at all..

even folks who hated jeezy when he first came out have got on his side..look at how this site changed on him..

When he first came out I think it was like me and 3 other people openly likin him...Now the overall view here is he is a good artist.

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I wouldn't have even fucking tried.

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Nobody mad at a bunch of cornballs I be laughing at yall negros.

The man made some decent points

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