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david bammer
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"how come rap media pretended southern rap of the 90's was..."
Thu Aug-09-12 11:51 PM by david bammer

  

          

strictly outkast, geto boys, ugk, hypnotize minds, no limit/cash money and all of their tangents.

frontin' like garbage like THIS wasn't the hardest shit out in atlanta...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzA8jDzshTU

think about it.
you never saw rap music media or mainstream outlets even ACKNOWLEDGE shit like the quad city dj's, broc & the biz or the 69 boyz during the south-centric years of the hip-hop industry.
i guess they were re-writing history favorably?

i mean every single rap song i heard that came out of atlanta from 1992-1997 was on that miami bass, 2 live crew/magic mike/egyptian lover strip club crap.
so without exaggeration that was quite literally "southern rap" for many years.
and it obviously was the pre-cursor to the club/stripper/assclap southern direction that rap music began to exclusively cater to around 2006 on - outkast/geto boys never made anything like that.
but surprisingly this "type" of rap never got ANY "retro-love" even in the retrolove-era of the late 00's.
it never even got acknowledged as the south's "past" and the influence it had on the direction that rap was moving...

...funny.

i can't remember if i already made this post.

  

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because the media thought of it as Novelty Hip hop
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I wasn't old enough to pay attention to the media at the time but
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the media's ability to create define and steer narratives
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bass music has it's place
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probably bc most of them didnt have sustained careers
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Thing is, a lot of the Bass just wasn't seen as "Hip Hop" in some
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jd introduced a classic with "my boo"
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forever and always.
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RE: how come rap media pretended southern rap of the 90's was...
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RE: how come rap media pretended southern rap of the 90's was...
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actually, that kind of highlights how I thought about SOME of it
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      Agreed about the retro-thing...
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cuz rap media in the 90s was fuckin terrible
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they still have Ole school BAss hour in ATlanta
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no they don't at least not regularly
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      they stop the ole school bass hour?
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mistermaxxx08
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1. "because the media thought of it as Novelty Hip hop"
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a one and done thing.

2 lIVE CREW were seen as a joke by some though the miami bass was important in years to come and also the marketing and merchendising of them was important.

however it took acts that had not only hits but also records that got played, etc.. where it was pushed as a legit act.

there was southern bias and the hate was deep, however the south kept on pushing and doing its thing and then the take over.

i remember it all so well.

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2. "I wasn't old enough to pay attention to the media at the time but"
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C'mon and Ride It and Space Jam were two of the biggest songs throughout my elementary/middle school career.

Space Jam got played like three times at our 8th grade graduation dance and that was four years after it dropped.

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Fri Aug-10-12 01:05 AM

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3. "the media's ability to create define and steer narratives"
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4. "bass music has it's place "
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cant get your dance on with the females to Bushwick Bill's "To See Shit Clearly"

im out here in Los Angeles and we ate that shit up hand in hand with Outkast / Geto Boys

it just seems like maybe the more recent rap media tend to forget that other aspect of southern rap music, i can clearly remember stuff like So So Def Bass All stars and other bass music getting favorable reviews in The Source ( when it was still the hiphip bible, albeit not alot in the mic review section )

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AlBundy
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Fri Aug-10-12 01:51 AM

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5. "probably bc most of them didnt have sustained careers"
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arent namechecked by anyone, etc

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6. "Thing is, a lot of the Bass just wasn't seen as "Hip Hop" in some"
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weird way. Like, Hip Hop heads back then would bitch about Hammer, maybe even a Coolio when it was 1,2,3,4, but they never bitched much about Bass and that side of things because it served a COMPLETELY different purpose.

You never saw these groups here collaborating with artists of different Coasts, or even with the Outkast/Geto Boys types, because the sound was that much different. But there was no need to hate on them or call it out, because there was a lot of "classic" music being made, and this served no threat. As big as "Tootsie Roll" and "Whoop, there it is" were, and as much as they got played, there was still space for the Wu, Tribe, Mobb Deep types to make the same impact.

Older generations always complained about the following ones in Rap, but to me, the whole "Hip Hop is dead" started more around 98, and this is when ALL commercial Rap form all Regions started to get criticized. So if Bass had hung around this long instead of dying right then (I think Mo Thugs "It's all good" is the last song from this era I heard on radio/TV), it would probably be looked down on.

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7. "jd introduced a classic with "my boo""
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http://www.amazon.com/So-Def-Bass-All-Stars-Compilation/dp/B000002BGW

  

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8. "forever and always."
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fuck you.

  

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GMD
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Fri Aug-10-12 12:15 PM

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9. "RE: how come rap media pretended southern rap of the 90's was..."
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>think about it.
>you never saw rap music media or mainstream outlets even
>ACKNOWLEDGE shit like the quad city dj's, broc & the biz or
>the 69 boyz during the south-centric years of the hip-hop
>industry.

Bass was basically dead by '98 when the south began taking over hip hop. I remember "The Dip" by Freak Nasty being one of the last of those type of songs to get nationwide play on Rap City and that was '97 I think.

>i guess they were re-writing history favorably?

LOL...

>i mean every single rap song i heard that came out of atlanta
>from 1992-1997 was on that miami bass, 2 live crew/magic
>mike/egyptian lover strip club crap.
>so without exaggeration that was quite literally "southern
>rap" for many years.
>and it obviously was the pre-cursor to the
>club/stripper/assclap southern direction that rap music began
>to exclusively cater to around 2006 on - outkast/geto boys
>never made anything like that.
>but surprisingly this "type" of rap never got ANY "retro-love"
>even in the retrolove-era of the late 00's.
>it never even got acknowledged as the south's "past" and the
>influence it had on the direction that rap was moving...

The media is primarily located in NY & LA why would they go in depth about the origins of southern hip hop? They don't give a damn. Bass music was always an underground/ independent thing, it barely received coverage while it was happening so it's understandable that it hasn't gotten any kind of "retrolove" as you say. The people that liked it probably enjoyed it similarly to Go-Go music, they liked it at parties and whatnot but beyond that and a little nostalgia, who really cares that much? I'm a nostalgic person so I still fuck with those songs when they pop up on the playlist but most people don't care.

  

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10. "RE: how come rap media pretended southern rap of the 90's was..."
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Since it came from "Dance" music more than anything it still is influencing "electro" shit and other maner of BASS music today...

There was rapping on it but maybe it was always seen as something different..

It gets its retro love in some dance circles... at HARD Festival last weekend at least 3 DJ's played 2 live crew records...


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12. "actually, that kind of highlights how I thought about SOME of it"
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to me, stuff like Quad City DJs was almost "retro" to me in the '90s, like I was listening to Bam and 'em

  

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Fri Aug-10-12 01:53 PM

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15. "Agreed about the retro-thing..."
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It was the type of synthy ''dance-rap'' that had been played out in the context of NY Hip-Hop since Mantronix had their peak. Meanwhile, now that shit almost sounds *ahead* of its time, funny how non-linear music evolution is...

  

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Fri Aug-10-12 01:02 PM

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11. "cuz rap media in the 90s was fuckin terrible"
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it was all about what was kinda boombappy early, and was thuggin late.

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13. "they still have Ole school BAss hour in ATlanta"
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I figure its even more in Miami

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14. "no they don't at least not regularly "
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16. "they stop the ole school bass hour? "
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I remember I was in awe when I was down there and heard BAss music

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