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3. "RE: the united states is...a pleutocracy" In response to Reply # 0 Tue Oct-27-15 08:17 PM by bentagain
listen to Noam Chomsky kids
he was saying something, not a direct quote
but along the lines of the united states not being designed for extreme democracy, i.e. participation by all
I think he dropped Madison's name and alluded to the Senate
some language attributed to Madison (could be someone else) stating that only certain people (affluent, etc...code words for white and wealthy) should be able to vote
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
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10. "all of that.. and the other stuff as well" In response to Reply # 8
the #1 power will be all things good and evil.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Thu Oct-29-15 07:23 AM
27. "someone has to take the blame for his shortcomings" In response to Reply # 26
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
Atillah Moor Member since Sep 05th 2013 13825 posts
Thu Oct-29-15 08:09 AM
35. "until I hear something logical that can explain how the U.S. is great" In response to Reply # 31 Thu Oct-29-15 08:14 AM by Atillah Moor
I'll keep to not loving or hating it, but hate my own people? lol okay. I didn't kill Tamir Rice, Christopher Wallace, Tupac Shakur, Lamont Coleman, or Jason Mizell. I didn't take Freddie Gray for a rough ride. I don't make music or television shows depicting black people denigrating themselves and I don't have any children I've abused nor have I been abused by those that look like me and I've certainly never stood by and watched as a young black person was abused so allegations of self hate or hatred for my own ethnicity in light of that are laughable, but go ahead throw some stones and destroy your glass house.
Here's my tumbleweed question of the day-- If it's so great here why does Ta-Nehisi Coates live in France now?
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37. "if i believed in prayer i'd pray for you." In response to Reply # 35
but i don't so i won't pray for you. but i hope those who do believe will pray for your healing.
and this is not about this post as much as it's about the utterly vile response you have to the poor girl who got dragged by that cop. your whole 'i never see white girls act badly' bullshit coupled w/other bullshit you've spewed on this board reveals your dysfunction. there is hope for you but you have to make the effort. b/c clearly someone has hurt you or you were born defective but whichever you can be helped. make the effort. seek the help. it's worth it. it gets better.
Atillah Moor Member since Sep 05th 2013 13825 posts
Thu Oct-29-15 09:00 AM
40. "So what? I'm not sorry you don't like my account of what I've seen" In response to Reply # 37 Thu Oct-29-15 09:16 AM by Atillah Moor
I don't know why stating my personal observations bothers you so much and I don't care. Would you feel better if I said this:
"I've never seen African girls act out the same way" Is that better and does that mean African children don't ever act out? It's just as true as far as "my" observations go so it should suffice right? Don't care either way though -- just wondering.
Here's what I saw the day after Michael Brown was killed.
A young black girl hit the emergency stop button on an escalator full of people at a DC Metro station causing a lot of people of varying ages to stumble forward and possibly injure themselves. How do you suppose her interaction with the Metro PD would have gone had they seen her do that? I've never seen an African child behave that way either, but does that mean African girls or children don't act unwisely?
Would someone who hates his own people stand around and observe how the police handle the young black men they put in cuffs to make sure nothing wild pops off? I don't have anything to prove to you though so who cares in the end.
I do need help though, you're right about that and I'll let you know when I set up my GoFundMe or Kickstarter. Hope you can put your money where you mouth is.
I say things you believe to be vile you say things I'm sure others would feel the same about -- dah doobie doobie doobie dah dah -- so what?
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Thu Oct-29-15 08:37 AM
39. "how about because he wants to live there..." In response to Reply # 35
> >Here's my tumbleweed question of the day-- >If it's so great here why does Ta-Nehisi Coates live in France >now? > >
why don't YOU live in France?
people like you talk about how horrible the US is but never leave.. have you ever left the country to see what else is out there?
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
people can posturize all they want, despite it's fuck ups and fucked-uppedness American is all I would want to be.
Where else can you live freely (obviously I know there are other places but for the sake of this argument) and freely talk shit about the place you live, it's leaders and everything in between without any real fear of retribution?
"Holier than thou never sits well with me."(c)janey
"OKP spends way too much time looking for ways to be offended." ~legsdiamond
12. "This is that propaganda" In response to Reply # 11
>people can posturize all they want, despite it's fuck ups and >fucked-uppedness American is all I would want to be. > >Where else can you live freely (obviously I know there are >other places but for the sake of this argument) and freely >talk shit about the place you live, it's leaders and >everything in between without any real fear of retribution?
Lots of places.
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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."
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19. "Can we all admit that we don't want a direct democracy though?" In response to Reply # 0 Wed Oct-28-15 11:41 AM by Buddy_Gilapagos
Don't they still teach the tyranny of the majority in school?
Firs thing that would happen if we had a direct democracy is people who have a popular vote to decide who is and isn't citizens and next thing you know we got black and brown slaves.
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29. "Is the only other option a republic though?" In response to Reply # 19
People forget that Greece and Rome, the founders of Western Democracy and Republicanism had societies based heavily on slave labor...I don't think the fact that we currently live in a democratic republic run by a wealthy elite is a fucking accident.
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
53. "Of course not. I think American govt in theory is the right way to go. " In response to Reply # 29
A mix of Republic (the senate) and something close to direct democracy (the house) with a supreme court to protect the rights of individuals and minorities.
I think our system mostly needs tweaks.
Get the money out (require 10 televised debates that networks must run, government funded for the rest).
Let non-partisan groups draw voting districts.
25 year term limits for members of Congress.
Staggered 18 year term limits for Supreme Court (which would potentially give every president 2 appointments).
And get rid of FL.
>People forget that Greece and Rome, the founders of Western >Democracy and Republicanism had societies based heavily on >slave labor...I don't think the fact that we currently live in >a democratic republic run by a wealthy elite is a fucking >accident. > > >"All the world's a stage, >And all the men and women merely players: >They have their exits and their entrances; >And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
Movies I need y'all bastids to see so we can discuss:
34. "direct democracy would dissolve the SCOTUS?" In response to Reply # 19
___________________________________ "WASP of the year: even if he isn�t a WASP, Oakley. Sailing? Check. In a yacht club? Check. Used the term �summer� as a verb instead of a noun? You betcha!" -thejerseytornado
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Thu Oct-29-15 08:33 AM
38. "W would have lost if it was a popular vote" In response to Reply # 19
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Thu Oct-29-15 09:51 AM
46. "if we could just get people of color and our allies to circulate dollars..." In response to Reply # 43
I say allows because some white people on here are like minded
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Atillah Moor Member since Sep 05th 2013 13825 posts
Thu Oct-29-15 05:21 PM
55. "How's that going to happen? We can't even discuss a topic critically" In response to Reply # 46 Thu Oct-29-15 05:24 PM by Atillah Moor
without tearing each other apart. If this board is any point of reference good luck. I can't wait to see how people would respond to having their spending habits called into question.
Still a great idea though.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Thu Oct-29-15 07:03 PM
56. "I have no idea how... but if we did it would change the game" In response to Reply # 55
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
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