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if so...when did he become corny? was there a definitive turning point in your eyes?

People mean different things by it, and nobody ever wants to give a definition... which makes it seem to me like folks don't wanna own up to what they mean by it.

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probably looks like I'm just being an asshole to some, but I find the way we use that word among black folks to be kinda problematic in the vast majority of instances.

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Seems suggestive...
or did you just think "ppl might find this corny, but I'm neutral" ?

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i saw the comments on it and brought the discussion here.

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somewhere around 2000...ish...

MFers were killing themselves to get a Jay co-sign as some sort of taste maker hood card pass carte blanch to the culture figure

I wouldn't call it corny

Good business for him

More like nauseating from a consumer

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did you catch Will Smith interview on Tidal?
he spoke about being corny, rather being called that by folks.
it was a good interview...

I don’t think Jay is. I enjoy the man he’s become....

where will is talking about jay calling him after he slapped dude in russia? lol

He spoke about how social media forces you to maintain it and how people always challenged his positivity.

check it out...It’s a good interview

I'm sure I thought he was corny before Summertime and definitely after Getting Jiggy With It.

But that dude is an inspiration

Black men work so hard tearing each other down and shitting on positive when it comes to rap content.. it's almost like it's a conspiracy.

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playlists too

stay woke

>I don’t think Jay is. I enjoy the man he’s become....

Me too. People question his motivations but I loved what he did with all the 4:44 videos and the sitdowns he had with various people/artists about black community issues and relationship issues and shit like that.

To that end I also love that he's kinda taken a role in the fight for equality with all the documentaries he's been working on for Trayvon Martin, and Kalief Browder and things like that. A good use of his platform IMO.

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pimp game sweet, breakin ankles and feet
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H-Town made L.A. paid

Though there were glimpses here and there for years before that.

dude is just living a different life from his roots and origins

i think he has a limited context and when taken out of it (i.e. presenting as rapper from a certain era, from a certain hood, in a certain style) it just feels kinda off.

at the same time...3 kids and 48 years old. No one with those stats is cool.

Even David Bekam looks washed if you look at him for more than 9 seconds. You can see it.

Buuuut I don't think its corniness, it's just...at a point the shit that made you cool as a 20 something and 30 something is the same shit that leads to everything falling apart. There are a million ways to age into a different kind of cool but its different from the stuff that got him on the map.

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But a lot of people who talk shit about him prolly corny as hell irl

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so are the rest of us.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

doesn't take away from his rapping ability especially reasonable doubt.

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He is like Kobe Bryant or Karl Malone to me, long since corny but undeniably great, hard-working, long-lasting, etc. But I mean once he was sampling show tunes and shit, I decided I was done with him. So 20 years?

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You don't want to be Funk Flex out here pretending to like mumble rap for the kids to think you're cool.

Give us an example of someone who is not corny....


And dont say anyone from The Roots....


After you give your example I will proceed to tell you why that person is actually really corny...

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

>Give us an example of someone who is not corny....
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>And dont say anyone from The Roots....

He references Jay a bit as an avatar of "washed-ness", but not so much in the sense of being corny - but in coming to terms with the man you are now later in life, as opposed to the young gunner who was always on the cutting edge of coolness and obsessed with whatever your definition of success was. In my late 30s and dealing with my own relevance, it resonated.

"And now here we all are: washed. Jay-Z's latest record, 4:44, was basically a catalog of all the things—the vulnerable feelings, the unflattering secrets, the self-doubt—he wouldn't allow himself to talk about on his 12 prior solo records. He made late-period albums such as 2013's Magna Carta Holy Grail, trying to convince all of us that he was still a world-beating giant. That everything was fine. But everything was not fine. I don't pop molly, I rock Tom Ford. You do what now? I was relieved when I heard 4:44. It's not a masterpiece—I think those are mostly behind Jay. But frankly he seems happier. He's out here demonstrating, in work and in life, how to act when the world that you once held in the palm of your hand starts to spin on without you."

https://www.gq.com/story/in-praise-of-being-washed

Streets won't let me chill.

>"And now here we all are: washed. Jay-Z's latest record, 4:44,
>was basically a catalog of all the things—the vulnerable
>feelings, the unflattering secrets, the self-doubt—he
>wouldn't allow himself to talk about on his 12 prior solo
>records. He made late-period albums such as 2013's Magna Carta
>Holy Grail, trying to convince all of us that he was still a
>world-beating giant. That everything was fine. But everything
>was not fine.

This is probably part of it no? This why they see that picture and laugh?

"The shit baby, los gran mojones"

finding weird hobbies, going to sleep early, stopping drinking as much,
waking up early, taking it easy on myself... all that shit

...as opposed to just being. Type of dude that buys/does shit because of the reaction that he'd get from others (copped to this in that cartoon song), as opposed to because he really likes the it. Shit comes off as corny.

Nothing wrong with being corny tho.

>...as opposed to just being. Type of dude that buys/does shit
>because of the reaction that he'd get from others (copped to
>this in that cartoon song), as opposed to because he really
>likes the it. Shit comes off as corny.
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>Nothing wrong with being corny tho.


I dont see or hear of him doing that... instead he making songs thanking the black women in his life for saving him...



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You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Dude's always a few years behind, as well.

Also, the song I'm talking about is "Story of OJ" (w/ the cartoon video).

how this man giving advice on being grown?

Oh, so now he gonna tell us to save money and invest it in real estate? Who does he think he is?

Shit was sad

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it was the fact that nxggas was praising it as if it were the first time they'd heard 'grown-man talk'.

Maybe it was.


THAT was the sad part.

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The fuck man. And folks in here questioning why dude's considered corny.

that's what I heard anyway

it feels like water lol

You're also falling a very short distance, like 3-4 feet into the water. It would be more dangerous to jump off a diving board probably, and i don't see anyone wearing helmets to do that.

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but I guess that's corny too


wearing helmets and shit

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Wearing condoms, helmets... all protection is corny
b/c preserving negro life is lame
There's no way a system of white supremacy programmed that into us tho.
There's no way we've internalized the way the system views us.
We decided we're worth nothing, because we're "cool" like that.


Plus... if it is indeed enforced by the rental company, he'd definitely be penalized, b/c ppl are gonna photograph him if he's in public. I guess it's corny for him to even be concerned with such things too tho.

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A helmet for the water bruh? What's there to hit his head on, besides the jet-ski?

Have you ever been on a jet ski before? I have. Never used or saw anyone using a jet ski. Several times. Pretty hard to flip those over without huge waves to jump.

Also, it's a QUESTION. Y'all came with the teeth-sucking, eye-rolling snark tho. Kinda sad, bruh. Hope this heat ain't got y'all all angry and confused.

>A helmet for the water bruh? What's there to hit his head on,
>besides the jet-ski?


Looks like you answered your own question.
Maybe he was taking extra precautions b/c it was his first time and he cares about his safety. Does that make him corny? You say we rushed in with snark, but you rushed in to call him corny.


>Also, it's a QUESTION.

Followed by a statement which reads:
"And folks in here questioning why dude's considered corny."
So you're side-eyeing peoples' questions but they can't side-eye yours?
Does the heat have you projecting with these double standards?
I'm in the air-conditioning lol.

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which probably reveals my station in life lol



but I don't think people usually wear helmets

He isnt corny he is just THAT kind of NY Hood dude...

even with money he never wanted to DO active things...

All the stuff he is doing now is considered WPS and the cats from his era that you see on the train (still rocking roc a wear jeans and shopping at jimmy jazz) are the same type dude.

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>He isnt corny he is just THAT kind of NY Hood dude...
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>even with money he never wanted to DO active things...

^^^^^^^ Yep. Jay-z even references an incident from years ago on his latest album, when he talks about his discomfort on a boat whilst Beyonce dived into the water from a height..

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oh man.... that shit is funny...

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That fake Mafiosi cigar chumping image was a preposterous image even then.

But that's okay. There are a lot worst things to be then corny.


In fact, I like this current form of Jay-Z's cool dad corniness. It's the most relatable he has ever been.

when the dead presidents video came out I thought he was corny. I still liked reasonable doubt but I thought he was corny dude.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

>when the dead presidents video came out I thought he was
>corny. I still liked reasonable doubt but I thought he was
>corny dude.


breh your user name is Makaveli... excuse yourself from this conversation....

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Since 1976

I was a back packer when he came out but the skills were undeniable and the Dead Presidents beat was flames.

Talib was right about this place... lol.

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Is it really THAT much of a stretch?

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Oh that's right. The Trayvon Martin documentary is coming out.

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you know it comes out on b.e.t. right? not in theaters...

It comes out July 30th on Paramount Network, not BET.

And yes I absolutely believe there are folks with power and resources attacking Jay-z and numerous other blacks in any and every way they can.

SEC, Tidal hit pieces etc...

You think it's ridiculous? Have you forgotten the Russian troll farms used on black lives matter and Kaepernick etc Al, that are still going on?

A jet ski is pretty goddamn predictable and the worst thing that can happen in general is that you flip the thing over (which I did once lol). At no point have I ever experienced or seen something where I'd need a helmet. I guess in a straight up crash it might be helpful but not really. I can't see the wisdom in it plus you don't get all that wind running over you, which feels awesome.

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i dunno how much a bucket would have done there. a life vest is essential though, just a great luxury to have especially if you get into an accident and/or are far from the shore. when i flipped one over my girlfriend was on the back and she freaked out. i explained to her that the vests would keep us float and in both directions we had land (a little key on one side, the shore on the other) so we could just do nothing and we'd reach safety. she chilled out, which was good because we were fairly far in both directions. soon after someone came and got us.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.