Back for a fifth time. Hyped as usual.

What to expect:

Jere Burns aka Wynn Duffy is now a regular. Hell yes.

Michael Rappaport is possibly the season's "Big Bad" as Daryl Crowe Jr., brother (or cousin?) of Dewey. I'm pretty sure they've mentioned him in past seasons.

Other guests in upcoming eps include: David Koechner, Wood and Steve Harris, and Amy Smart.

And that's all I got. I'm a little worried about Rappaport playing a Southern villain, but the show has pulled off casting against type many a time.

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I mean, it's still got Timothy Olyphant and Walton Goggins, so that's a win.

And I hope we see more of Raylan's wife this season.

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>Other guests in upcoming eps include: David Koechner, Wood and
>Steve Harris, and Amy Smart.
>


Other than common's video have they done work together before.


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florida redneck seems like a perfect role for him, and this show always kills it, character-wise.

I was re-watching some S4 episodes last week, and realized I have the exact opposite reaction at the end of a Justified episode as i do to an episode of SOA lol.

can't wait

i want to watch this show, but i never start NOT from the beginning

Their organization of movies and films and what not is still lacking (why they don't have a queue is beyond me) but they have the rights to Justified. Free streaming for Prime members.

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I'm a huge Elmore Leonard fan (R.I.P.). Have been so for over 15 years now. He published this book in 2012, but I didn't read it until after Season 4 was over and before Leonard died.

Don't read this if you're planning on reading "Raylan," which I wouldn't recommend anyway, but that's kinda not the point. This is just me reflecting/babbling on the relationship between the book and the TV series. I'm kinda long-winded here, so skip if not interested.

I'm reading the book, and familiar story-lines start popping up, and I think to myself, "Oh, interesting, Leonard's providing his own take on the episodes that the 'Justified' writers created." But then stuff from Season 4 starts popping up, stuff that couldn't have been written or filmed when Leonard was writing this. Which seemed weird.

I finish the book, and they've got an "Ask the Author" interview with Leonard, where he explains that he wrote the book because show creator Graham Yost asked him too, and he constantly sent his notes/chapters to Yost while writing. As a result, "Raylan" reads like over a dozen episode or character pitches for "Justified," many of which they ended up using.

Here are things (that I remember) that "Justified" used that were originally conceived of in the book:

- Raylan living above a bar and acting as the bouncer to pay rent

- The organ thief doctor/nurse practioner arc

- The female coal company executive how comes to Harlan to strip-mine the county

- The town hall meeting about said coal mining operation (just about all the dialogue during appears to have been lifted from the book)

- The rough sketch of the Bennett family; it's the Crowes in this case, although Dewey had already turned up in previous Leonard novels.

- The "wise beyond her years" Loretta and her pot dealer father.

- The gang of meth-head prostitutes who also rob banks.

- The fugitive who sends Raylan a video-taped challenge and the subsequent bar showdown.

- The hot U. of Kentucky grad student who Raylan has to protect.


I will say that in just about every case, the "Justified" writers improved on all of Leonard's ideas. In some cases, vastly so (see: the Bennett/Crowe story). But it made me feel some sort of way, and I'm not sure why. I'm certainly no stranger to TV shows that are adapted from novels, but it just felt... I don't know... weird that Yost had Leonard to write an entire book just so that he could take the best ideas from it and turn it into serialized TV.

I don't know, maybe I'm just rambling here.

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but i've been apprehensive because of the crossover.

As a rule, when Leonard writes a "sequel" due to the success of the movie version of his novels, the results kinda suck. "Be Cool" is the most glaring example.

Leonard is extremely hit or miss with sequels in general. Some of the "sequels" he writes do turn out to be his best books: "Rum Punch" (the basis for "Jackie Brown") was a sequel, and it's my favorite book of his. "Riding the Rap," the second Raylan Givens book, was also great. It was also turned into an episode of "Justified" in the first season. "Road Dogs" is essentially part 2 of "Out of Sight," but he waited close to 15 years before writing, and it helped.

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i'll have to peep Riding the Rap though. I loved Rum Punch/Jackie Brown, but i had no idea it was sequel

In that it uses characters from both. LaBrava is one of Leonard's sleepers, BTW, if you haven't read it.

"Riding the Rap" isn't as good as "Pronto," but it's still really good. Very good at continuing to build the Raylan Givens character.

"Rum Punch" is a sort of sequel to "The Switch"; it's the first book with Ordell, Louis, and Melanie (the Bridget Fonda character). It's a slight, pretty-lightweight 200 page-er. "Rum Punch" is a lot better. "The Switch" finally got made into a movie this year, starring Mos Def, John Hawkes, and Jennifer Anniston. I haven't seen it; it might have ended up straight to DVD.

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I just read Pronto unfortunately after Elomre's death, but was not sure I wanted to go on with the novels with the Raylan character or skip around to some of his other work with characters I am familiar with from the movies. Rum Punch was high on my list but I did not realize it was a sequel.

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And Rappaport is even worse than I could imagine with that craptastic accent. It's going to be a chore to take him seriously as a big bad, especially given how well the prior ones were played.

he's got the look down, and they way he tried to sell raylan a different version of how his pops died as if he was all tore up was pretty good. i'm hoping that it won't be too much of a distraction, but we'll see.

some fun guest spots (koechner and dave foley), whole lotta bodies piling up, boyd & duffy working together. pretty solid season premiere as whole.

one minor gripe was raylan putting down machado. other bad guys have tried to use raylan to do their dirty work in the past, so that just seemed like a rehash. seems the story would have been more interesting if machado took off after the accident and was a looming figure over the crowes this season. would give them yet another reason to leave miami. oh well.

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Aside from everything that happened in Detroit, of course. Almost sad, the way they've built up the Detroit mob as this powerful entity that could get to anyone. Then we finally see them and they've turned into a small handful of crazies with a blowup doll room.

Also, loved Dave Foley and Will Sasso as the Canadians. I think this show has officially cast more comedians than Breaking Bad (and it somehow never seems like stunt casting.)

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I agree all the Detroit stuff was gold. And it was good enough and well-plotted enough that the high body count surrounding it didn't bother me at all. Boyd saying Iraq was "like Detroit, but with better music" was another great one-liner.

>Also, loved Dave Foley and Will Sasso as the Canadians. I
>think this show has officially cast more comedians than
>Breaking Bad (and it somehow never seems like stunt casting.)

Yep, hope they're back eventually. This show has no shortage of characters, but I'd like to see more of those two. "We're the other Canadians."

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hope she'll be back

i don't really get the complaints about Rapaport. i thought he did fine.

pretty wild first ep. this show's always a blast.

It didn't de-rail the episode in any way though.

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but his ny accent is so thick that it was breaking out all over the place. it wasn't a distraction for me, but it was just something that was hella noticeable.

It would've been enough if the Cuban and the rest of the Crowe clan had been the only people they'd introduced in Florida, but they added the Haitan tour guide/gator-man, the corrupt Coast Guard, and Champ Kind, U.S. Marshall. Then with Boyd's, they add three now flunkies, the Tonin's lawyer, the Canadian Mafia, and Paxton's wife/widow.

I guess that's why I understand them whacking Sam Tonin and Paxton early on: the gotta attempt to clear some of the table to make room.

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He's got a lot more going on. He's lost his dope connection, the Florida Crowes are coming to roost in Harland and will likely want a piece of his action (or to take over), and Dicky Bennett is a free man once again. Plus, he's got to deal with Ava and possibly the city slickers after killing the funeral parlor guy.
And teaming with Wynn Duffy is always a risk.

I love me some Natalie Zea but the baby story isn't that intriguing and I'm not sure what the Crowes will really add that we haven't seen before for Raylan.

Keeping the rest of the Marshalls around might be just as tricky. I almost wish they'd just make a spin-off with Art, Tim, and Rachel.

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shipping her off to FLA and showing Raylan wouldn't even drop by when he was in town seemed to indicate the Winona/Baby thing isn't going to be a huge part of Raylan's story this season, other than something that shapes his overall outlook on things.

> and Dicky Bennett is a free man once again.

either way, i still hope one day that we'll get some adventures of dewey and dickie on a web series.

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Six seasons is certainly a great run, but this is one of the rare shows where the seem to be able to generate story ideas to keep the party going.

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‘Justified’ Will Probably End After Season Six, Says FX’s Nick Grad
For a show boasting a heaping helping of southern drawl, the premiere party for season five of FX drama “Justified” had a decidedly metropolitan touch.

Following the Jan. 6 screening at West Hollywood’s DGA, guests headed to Sunset Blvd.’s chic RivaBella, where the buffet line stretched almost past the DJ booth.

The premiere carried its reverential moments, as season five of the Timothy Olyphant-starrer will be the first since the passing of Elmore Leonard, the scribe whose short story “Fire in the Hole” served as the basis for the series. Damon Herriman, who plays Dewey Crowe in “Justified,” told Variety that while on set for season five, cast members read small sections of Leonard’s short stories to camera, clips that will be laced into a tribute video for the writer. (FX has also lined up a 90-second tribute to Leonard to air during the season five premiere.)

“As Graham has said, they went to Detroit and Florida , the two very most ‘Elmore’ kind of locations, and they were excited about Elmore would think of the episode and very sad that he’s never going to see this season. But, he’s the inspiration behind all of this,” said FX prexy Nick Grad.

Grad also said that ending “Justified” after a healthy six-season run is “the plan right now,” though that could always change given the needs of the creatives.

“We like having shows that rate really well, and there’s an instinct that you want it to go on forever. But it doesn’t,” Grad noted. “Another metric that’s important to us is, ‘What shows are going to be talked about in the next 20 years?’ If you’re making a great, 80-hour movie, it has to have a beginning, middle and end. Going out at the right time is going to make your show last forever — we want to make shows that stand the test of time.”

Season five of “Justified” introduces a slew of notable fresh characters. For series newbie Michael Rappaport — a Gotham-bred thesp — adapting to the southern accent that the drama calls for meant a whole lot of country music.

“I listened to a lot to be as authentic as possible — Bobby Bare, Johnny Paycheck, Loretta Lynn. I never got into country music before this, so it’s like a whole new form for me.”

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CA 2014: FX chief John Landgraf announces decision by showrunner Graham Yost and lead actor Timothy Olyphant

FX’s “Justified” will end after its sixth season, network chief John Landgraf announced at the Television Critics Association winter press tour on Tuesday.

Landgraf said the decision was made by showrunner Graham Yost and lead actor Timothy Olyphant, and that he would have loved for the show to continue.

“It’s one of my favorite shows,” Landgraf said. “We talked about it a year ago and they felt that the arc of the show and what they had to say would be best served by six years, six seasons… and so I accepted their decision. We try as much as we can not to make business drive creative.”

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If he knows Boyd like he really think he do why did he escalate that situation?

He know Boyd a stone cold killer, man.

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...he knew there is no more backing from Detroit to cover Boyd and that he was Boyd's only chance at getting Ava out. And in that, he completely underestimated Boyd.

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Fun first ep.

"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

Also, that other dude that shot up the idiot dope runner with him is his true to life brother if I'm not mistaken. Interesting casting; almost makes up for using Rappaport.

No, homeboy hit me with a shovel!

I was a little disappointed with the premiere, but this episode kicked ass.

-Harris Bros are badass, I hope they play a key role in this season and this wasn't just a guest appearance.

-Raylan taking over the mansion.

-Mara is scheming and has to now figure out how to play the situation with Paxton, Boyd, and Sheriff Mooney. I was suprised Boyd's guy didn't suffocate the Paxton in the hospital, it'll be interesting to see where that goes now.

-Loretta's plotting too. She was a great character and I hope she'll make another appearance this season. I'm also impressed by the actress, she was good before but seems to have gotten better.

-Amy Smart...eh, okay. Not too interested in Raylan's lovelife, hope they keep scenes like the conversation over wine to a minimum. I'd rather him go after Wendy, Rappaport's sister.

-I don't know why Art goes poking around in Raylan's business like that. I understand he's curious, but he doesn't really want to catch Raylan doing dirt like that, does he?

-Daryl Jr. touches down in Harlan. Still not sold on Rappaport as the lead villain this season, but him bossing Dewey around and trying to take over Boyd's operations will be fun to watch.

-Who stole Boyd's shipment? I'm guessing it was the Canadians, but I really don't want to see Will Sasso and Dave Foley play tough guys again. I know other people liked that casting it but it was so unbelievable to me to see them as intimidating leaders of a criminal organization, albeit a Canadian one. Maybe I've just seen too much MADTV.


Great episode, got me hyped for this season.

>-Who stole Boyd's shipment? I'm guessing it was the Canadians,
>but I really don't want to see Will Sasso and Dave Foley play
>tough guys again. I know other people liked that casting it
>but it was so unbelievable to me to see them as intimidating
>leaders of a criminal organization, albeit a Canadian one.
>Maybe I've just seen too much MADTV.

that was the hooker that he was hanging out with last year that got the info about the shipment.


>Great episode, got me hyped for this season.

it really was. there is so many plotlines in motion right now

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>-Who stole Boyd's shipment? I'm guessing it was the Canadians,
>but I really don't want to see Will Sasso and Dave Foley play
>tough guys again. I know other people liked that casting it
>but it was so unbelievable to me to see them as intimidating
>leaders of a criminal organization, albeit a Canadian one.
>Maybe I've just seen too much MADTV.

Not sure how much it tied into the tension between Wynn Duffy and and that one dude. I don't see Duffy letting insults about his 'cute little suit' slide. Plus I don't think Duffy appreciated Boyd giving those guys too much info. it obviously just came back to bite them

>-I don't know why Art goes poking around in Raylan's business
>like that. I understand he's curious, but he doesn't really
>want to catch Raylan doing dirt like that, does he?

It's weird Art is investigating him tho. Raylan's been so dirty many times before its interesting how this might come up and bit him. I figure maybe they are setting up a plotline where he really gets in trouble? But considering the first two-three seasons had him -><- close to getting fired (and they even had fun with it season 2 where he couldn't shoot his gun) its an interesting storyline to bark up.

Also, woah at the 21,278 different storylines they slyly introduced in this episode.

it's always been a balancing act for him because he likes Ryalan on a personal level and knows he's so effective, but he's borderline criminal in his ways.

then there was that thing with Winona and the evidence money. Art lets a lot of shit slide with him, and he's low-key salty because he knows Raylan doesn't respect his authority.

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>even before i went to glynco, and trained to be a dead shot,
>i’d seen people kill one another. and i learned to be ready.
>in case they came after me to do me harm. in other words, i’ll
>kill four of you, before you even clear your weapons, and i’ll
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>that’s gonna make it legal.”

...he whopped Duffy then tossed the bullet at him. Word to Johnny Carson.

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i was thinking Colombia was some shit i forgot

>even before i went to glynco, and trained to be a dead shot,
>i’d seen people kill one another. and i learned to be ready.
>in case they came after me to do me harm. in other words, i’ll
>kill four of you, before you even clear your weapons, and i’ll
>take my chances with the other two, and you see this star?
>that’s gonna make it legal.”


^^^This right here is why I absolutely love this show. The writing is so crisp. It has such a bite but doesn't go overboard or take itself too seriously.

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I loved all things Duffy in this episode

Boyd vs Florida Crowes, Cousin Johnny, etc...

poor Dewey. never thought i could feel so bad with a guy with "heil hitler" tatted on his neck.

lol @ Ava's lawyer

Mara is just ridiculously sexy

Amy Smart is shaky at best. criminal at worst. I've always had a thing for her, tho

another dope one. this show is Noir as fuck

That was pretty intense. I thought for sure that chick was a goner.

The music sting during the double choke out and the way the final scene was shot both felt more like hokey horror films than noir. And Rappaport's accent was even more distracting this time around.

Beyond that, a great episode. Wynn Duffy is always great, Boyd has some great lines, Amy Smart is purty. It would be nice for Raylan to admit his issues with women although I did love the line in which he said he wouldn't call it a tendency and that he wouldn't have noticed had she not brought it up. At least the show mentions his gluttony for punishment even if he doesn't see it.

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GREAT monologue by Boyd.
"Because you ain't stupid enough to think you can rip me off and remain on this side of the goddamn planet!"


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>There's nothing more uncomfortable than Dewey trying to kill
>a man.

Props to the dude who plays Dewey because he's got me feeling so goddamn sorry for him.

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I mean, you just buy him as this ridiculous pathetic character. In the wrong hands Dewey Crowe could be an awful character. He sells every stupid line so that you're laughing at Dewey and feeling bad for him.

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I don't really know what the hell it's supposed to be and I don't really know what a Florida redneck is supposed to sound like but it's grown on me, the more I've heard it.

since the seed was planted, It's a little distracting but I agree with the poster above that I have no idea what a florida redneck is supposed to sound like

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and of course Danny Crowe scratching booty. Another great episode highlighted by Dewey's stupidity and Raylan and Boyd's dialogue (They are gold everytime they are together).