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(ukaa) >UKKA, it has taken me two >days to respond to you.
....i noticed that......i was waiting for a reply....then i had to return to school......and now i am replying......i was going to anyway.....'cause of something about orange draws.....which could have been taken as a personal jab, but was funny as hell when i read none the less.......this is definitely a better (more progressive) approach.......i am glad you waited......
> Some of the things >that you say, distrub me. > So, I wanna be >as "RIGHT-eous" as I can >in responding..... > >>....i attend clemson univ. (in clemson, >>sc)....... >South Carolina grad....Not going to hold >that against you.
....i actually haven't graduated quite yet....
>>i will graduate shortly, but i won't be a proud >You should be - particulary if >the "road has been ruff"
....."ruff" is relative 'cause "...every man think his burden is the heaviest"bob......"ruff" is this so-called life THEY dictate for me......
> Man, coming out of >some of these white schools >ain always no bed of >white lillies. There are >some people that are going >to challenge your very presence >in those Ivy halls, your >right to even be there.
...you are correct.....those ppl exist here and make SURE their existence is known.....i feel i am only here b/c clemson gets money from the govn't.....even though a "black" person that attends clemson HAS to be somewhat intelligent (by their definition) to be accepted.....
> So, be proud. >Be VERY proud, Tiger!
i am very proud to be iron like a lion, but these (clemson) tigers can kiss my ass....
>>.....i am considering grad school at >>a hbcu.....to get a new >>experience.......hopefully......maybe..... >Maybe this post will help you >choose one that's right for >you.
...so far this post, like many posts here, are very informative nad helpful.....
And by the >way, my manager is a >Clemson University Civil Engineer. >>.....pretty much what has been said >>already......plus a little more.....but nothing >>that should surprise anyone......like unity >>said......they are people......and whatever is >>experienced in college goes on >>outside of it.....to some extent...... >College is supposed to prepare you >for that. Do you >feel that your Clemson University >education is doing that for >you?
....if you "that" refers to what goes on outside of college, then no i don't think clemson is doing that me......i am doing it for self.....
>>i think this issue, like many posted, is WAAAY more serious when one steps back to look at the bigger picture......it is obvious that people >>(in general.....not black, white, etc...) >>MUST be divided for such a small percentage of the population to control the rest........give >>every one a different category to fit in, let them fight about certain differences (that >>should be celebrated) >There's no arguing that. But >what I seek to do >(with every post) is to >bridge some of those gaps.
....me too.... > We have got to >start somewhere.
If you >look at the situation as >insurmontable and the gap being >un-bridge-able,
....i do not view the situation as such.....it is a big task, but "...we know we shall win/we are confident/in the victory/of good over evil...."HIM
then what is going >to happen? NOTHING! >So, you're right. But >WE - you and me >- as educated, responsible, people >have got to take up >this fight somewhere. Let >people know that in order >for you to INCREASE, I >don't have to DECREASE. >You went to school?!? >I went to school?!? >Hip - hip horay! - >instead of "sell out" >"oreo" "degenerate" "DUMMY" >DIVISION amongst us is one of >the reasons that slavery was >successful THEN AND NOW!
...i agree.....but even if i wasn't "educated" by these "schools", i would, like many others, still be fighting b/c i feel it is is my duty.....
>>TRUE knowledge of self uproots such frivolous thoughts from a correctly (natural) thinking mind.......one, then, overstands what is truly valuable.......and takes concrete steps for what NEEDS to be done........personal sacrifices for >>the greater good included..... >TAKE UP THE FIGHT SOMEWHERE!
....i have.....
>>.....some cats speak of their third eye.....but still only see the physical world that is presented to them....... > >>.....my solution to this and many interrated problems is meditation, i.e. sincere "LISTENING" to GOD......for GOD has already equipped us with >>the myriad tools with which to happily live...... >God equips us for war as >well. Remember Joshua?
....that....is my point exactly.....i knew you overstood.....
>>....they (the workers of iniquity) know >>that we can defeat them.....and >>they will let you talk >>about solutions 'cause they honestly >>don't believe you will actually >>do ANY thing...... >MY POINT. So, let's put >our collegiate prejudices on the >table sort them out and >move on.
....personally, i don't have collegiate prejudices.....i have a real problem, not with the structure of the schools, but what they "teach" (propagandize).....what did usc (as an institution to which you pay money) really teach you? (serious question).....clemson didn't teach me shit 'bout self....they just train me how to work.....not think independently.....at least not outside of the classroom....when it could possibly challenge the status quo.....that came from personal introspection that would have occurred even if i didn't attend this "school".......i am of the ppl and for the ppl, so i identify with the ppl.....and don't deem it mandatory to have a formal education in this system......part of my motivation to teach is that I LOVE TO LEARN.......the truth......anything else is discarded.......and they are surely not teaching the truth in this system.....
"...build your penitentiary/we build your school/brainwash education/to make us the fools..."bob
> >"...you >>ARE the revolution....." > >>.....let go.....and let GOD......honestly..... >If I AM THE REVOLUTION, then >I CAN'T let go.
....to me, being the revolution means, with knowledge of self, i do not have to wait for someone to agree with me or join me to fight.....i must fight b/c i know that it is the right thing to do..... >See, Brah, I'm a Christian >as well. But my >Christianity does not beleive in >not MOVING on what GOD >gives you.
.....i agree totally.....
So many >people say "Let Go and >Let God" That means, >you let go of the >reins and let God have >them. He will lead >you. But if he >leads you to a battle, >YOU GOT TO FIGHT!
.....in fact, we are at war (with spiritual wickedness in high and low places).....and i DEFINITELY gotta fight....the time is NOW......for real....your words sound like me talking to others
>ukka, do you have any interaction >with Black folk from HBCU's?
....yes.....through my frat (pbs--also at usc) as well as my fam......but, with k.o.s. i don't have to personally know someone from a certain school to avoid gross generalizations......that is just plain ignorant......
> Would you consider forging >a partnership with a HBCU >near Clemson?
....yes....that is why i am too excited about this new endeavor with wise_7....
>How are you going to make >your decison about where you >will do your grad work >- Black school? White >school?
....this is a more difficult question b/c i am presently in civil engr......but recognizing our present situation, i feel i MUST work for change....and the best way for change, in my humble opinion, is the kids......so i plan to go to grad school teach elementary kids and start a school......but not in the confines of this present system.......i want to pool with other "conscious" cats and build our own school with our own ideaology......something that my fam helped do in d.c. with the ujamaa shule.....
> >Live from the Shoe Sto' >NuShooz >I,I, I Can't Wait!
...in closing.....again, i am glad we are exchanging thoughts in this positive manner.....i think my earlier message was misconstrued 'cause i feel that you a very powerful and motivated wombman.....i am very inspired by your posts....and pray we can work together in common unity for true liberation......uhuru.....
....your comments are graciously accepted.....
......peace&blessings.........ukaa......a small axe.......
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