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"The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post"


  

          

not much to say because england is steady fucking themselves. group stages are going to be loads of fun.

think germany has this.

sad to see this get expanded for 2014.

anyways ... GAME ON!

  

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on a positive note: dutch racially abused at practice
Jun 07th 2012
1
Just about to post this.
Jun 07th 2012
3
open practice sessions are different than ticketed games
Jun 07th 2012
5
      Yeah, but the games may well be worse.
Jun 07th 2012
6
           balotelli may well see to that
Jun 07th 2012
9
shit's fucking disgusting
Jun 07th 2012
11
UEFA refusing to investigate further unless incident is "repeated"
Jun 08th 2012
23
Group stage schedule
Jun 07th 2012
2
they cldnt start with a couple better matches?
Jun 07th 2012
4
eh
Jun 07th 2012
7
i suppose
Jun 07th 2012
10
I'm reading Russia's playing well lately
Jun 07th 2012
12
      Poland making me look like a fool
Jun 08th 2012
44
Pots were random + always start with the host country
Jun 08th 2012
21
oops ... meant 2016
Jun 07th 2012
8
FRANCE, BITCHES
Jun 07th 2012
14
so what's the story with expansion?
Jun 08th 2012
16
      expanding to 24 teams in 2016
Jun 08th 2012
17
IN! No travel on calendar next 2 weeks. Signed up for cable
Jun 07th 2012
13
*sigh* spain
Jun 07th 2012
15
GROUP A DISCUSSION
Jun 08th 2012
18
definitely rooting for Poland in this group
Jun 08th 2012
24
Russia chooses Malafeev over Akinfeev
Jun 08th 2012
27
Poland/Greece may be the most unpronouceable game of the tourney.
Jun 08th 2012
43
I'm liveblogging Russia/Czech later
Jun 08th 2012
53
      nice, I'll make sure to follow that
Jun 08th 2012
55
      RE: I'm liveblogging Russia/Czech later
Jun 08th 2012
56
      Thanks, man! Yeah, I'm the "beer and pundits" guy, pretty much.
Jun 08th 2012
58
           RE: Thanks, man! Yeah, I'm the "beer and pundits" guy, pretty much.
Jun 08th 2012
59
      Here it is with 10 mins left
Jun 08th 2012
69
GROUP B DISCUSSION
Jun 08th 2012
19
Does anyone believe in Portugal??
Jun 08th 2012
25
GROUP C DISCUSSION
Jun 08th 2012
20
GROUP D DISCUSSION
Jun 08th 2012
22
Meltdown vs. meltdown jr.
Jun 08th 2012
26
france will ... their form right now = 0_o
Jun 08th 2012
31
I see France and Ukraine going through
Jun 08th 2012
52
      I see it as France and Sweden
Jun 08th 2012
57
GROUP PREDICTIONS
Jun 08th 2012
28
RE: GROUP PREDICTIONS
Jun 08th 2012
29
hmm ...
Jun 08th 2012
32
Okay
Jun 08th 2012
33
RE: GROUP PREDICTIONS
Jun 08th 2012
34
RE: GROUP PREDICTIONS
Jun 08th 2012
54
So how about some individual honors predictions
Jun 08th 2012
30
okay
Jun 08th 2012
35
RE: okay
Jun 08th 2012
40
I think it's Benzi, even though I have France losing to RoI in the Qtrs....
Jun 08th 2012
61
Alexi Lalas and Michael Ballack in the studio.
Jun 08th 2012
36
not a good start
Jun 08th 2012
38
      Well, I know I hate Lalas as a commentator.
Jun 08th 2012
41
      you are not kidding, damn.
Jun 08th 2012
42
RE: So how about some individual honors predictions
Jun 08th 2012
37
RE: So how about some individual honors predictions
Jun 09th 2012
105
yo this is the GOAT Opening Ceremony, all other nations just stop now
Jun 08th 2012
39
Red Devils getting one hell of a player in Lewandowski
Jun 08th 2012
45
him and Kagawa are such good pickups
Jun 08th 2012
46
https://p.twimg.com/Au4ZMJmCAAAW58v.jpg
Jun 08th 2012
47
beautiful
Jun 08th 2012
49
Greece sucks and deserves to lose, but that red is some bullshit.
Jun 08th 2012
48
maybe David Stern is in charge of soccer refs too?
Jun 08th 2012
50
RE: Greece sucks and deserves to lose, but that red is some bullshit.
Jun 08th 2012
51
      bad joke answered with good goal
Jun 08th 2012
60
           Wrong
Jun 08th 2012
63
                Thought it was actually a decent joke.
Jun 08th 2012
64
dang this game is kinda crazy
Jun 08th 2012
62
yo who do I call to get some Dzagoev stock?
Jun 08th 2012
65
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_mafia
Jun 08th 2012
67
Russia looking strong in attack.
Jun 08th 2012
66
dunno
Jun 08th 2012
68
I somehow missed this nice little side plot
Jun 09th 2012
133
      I was thinking all the way back to the '70s.
Jun 10th 2012
138
           if you go back that far, they won the '76 euro
Jun 10th 2012
199
                No--original comment about them being really good.
Jun 10th 2012
209
                     oh I see, my bad.
Jun 10th 2012
223
First half they just pushed forward without any shape
Jun 08th 2012
70
lol@Poland playing the offside trap 1 man up (& other day 1 musings)
Jun 09th 2012
71
Appallingly negative football in that first game
Jun 09th 2012
73
Comn man b9, I think you trigger finger is too itchy with this - futbol
Jun 09th 2012
82
      AC Jimbo: "Give a little credit to Greece, even if the IMF don't want to...
Jun 09th 2012
84
      That's Greece's MO: not good enough to outright attack their opponent
Jun 09th 2012
109
Building on my day 1 musings
Jun 09th 2012
83
      I watched the spanish feed online, so I wouldn't know
Jun 09th 2012
89
if this is how the Russians react when they win...
Jun 09th 2012
72
great advert for Eastern Europe and World Cup 2018
Jun 09th 2012
74
it's insane they've been given the tournaments
Jun 09th 2012
76
straight up & down i dont fuck w/ NO eastern europeans.
Jun 09th 2012
75
      the Polish fans are notorious, this could end badly
Jun 09th 2012
77
      fuck outta here
Jun 09th 2012
78
           Thought you were French. Why does that offend you so much?
Jun 09th 2012
79
                isn't it quintessentially french to be atheistic
Jun 09th 2012
80
                I believe France is considered to be a very secular country.
Jun 09th 2012
81
                     that's a spectacularly narrow definition of apathy
Jun 09th 2012
85
                          I wasn't aware I'd defined the word.
Jun 09th 2012
86
                               I won't, you're the one who used the word
Jun 09th 2012
90
                                    RE: I won't, you're the one who used the word
Jun 09th 2012
96
                                         agreed, now let's leave semantics behind and focus on the footy shall we
Jun 09th 2012
99
                                              Okay. But French cigarettes are still disgusting.
Jun 09th 2012
102
                                                   you mean Gitanes?
Jun 09th 2012
104
                                                        the blond Gitanes are allright
Jun 09th 2012
106
                                                             all cigarettes smell nasty to me
Jun 09th 2012
112
                doesn't really 'offend' me, it's just an inane statement
Jun 09th 2012
88
                     lol...you're taking all this a little too seriously
Jun 09th 2012
92
                          so, wait, you agree w/me?
Jun 09th 2012
94
                               I have no idea.
Jun 09th 2012
97
I'm old and been on here too long
Jun 09th 2012
87
say word. I was thinking I was already on okp when Rosicky started
Jun 09th 2012
93
Just me or does sneijder look "heavy" even bloated a bit?
Jun 09th 2012
91
YESSSSSS
Jun 09th 2012
95
"Failures" already?? They're still young and lost in the last WC Final!
Jun 09th 2012
100
      Robben, Van Persie & De Jong are no spring chicken
Jun 09th 2012
101
WEll this should make things interesting
Jun 09th 2012
98
Michael Ballack in civvies looks quite a bit like Matt Damon.
Jun 09th 2012
103
Like moose from the same can. It's uncanny.
Jun 09th 2012
116
      ^^^WISE
Jun 09th 2012
118
RVP playing like old rvp
Jun 09th 2012
107
He needs to play more like RVD!
Jun 09th 2012
108
Netherlands have problems
Jun 09th 2012
110
Lol coach going all in with those substitutions
Jun 09th 2012
111
ARRRRGGGGG
Jun 09th 2012
113
Arsenal and RVP fan, but i agree
Jun 09th 2012
114
mark my words germany bout to rape portugal
Jun 09th 2012
115
Fuck, Keller is calling this one too?
Jun 09th 2012
117
Doesn't seem like it at the moment. n/m
Jun 09th 2012
122
      yeah maybe not i was expecting a 4-0+ result
Jun 09th 2012
129
paint drying + nails on chalkboard >>> this ESPN half time crew
Jun 09th 2012
119
Ballack brings very little to the table.
Jun 09th 2012
120
It's a shame Friedel's contracted to Fox
Jun 09th 2012
135
      Friedel would be great, though I think they wanted a guy with Euro exp.
Jun 10th 2012
140
beyond brutal
Jun 09th 2012
121
I'd pay just to see CR7 run at a full sprint, no soccer ball or
Jun 09th 2012
123
its beautiful n/h
Jun 09th 2012
127
      That's who Tom Cruise channels in those MI# sprinting montages
Jun 09th 2012
130
      lol
Jun 11th 2012
230
      with a peanut-sized brain
Jun 09th 2012
132
has anybody ever seen one of these short corner kicks work?
Jun 09th 2012
124
I think my grandfather did once
Jun 09th 2012
125
yah....
Jun 09th 2012
126
this is one of the pet peeves of my g/f when she watches soccer
Jun 10th 2012
148
can i get different announcers by pressing the sap button
Jun 09th 2012
128
Ouch, Holland.
Jun 09th 2012
131
day 2 verdict: thoroughly underwhelming
Jun 09th 2012
134
meanwhile, there's been an epic Brazil/Argentina friendly
Jun 09th 2012
136
      seriously, he failed his job
Jun 10th 2012
139
           that third, game winning goal was truly magic
Jun 10th 2012
225
                i was in attendance
Jun 11th 2012
238
interesting lineup for spain
Jun 10th 2012
137
Or maybe he's not false. Maybe he'll rage in the air.
Jun 10th 2012
141
Formation reminds me of this
Jun 10th 2012
143
      real madrid murders puppies. scum of the earth.
Jun 10th 2012
144
      Oh I laughed and laughed
Jun 10th 2012
151
that's two dangerous free kicks on italian flops already
Jun 10th 2012
142
ok, tbf, motta getting kicked probably hurt a lot
Jun 10th 2012
145
I wanna see Mario run up in the stands and kill a racist Pole.
Jun 10th 2012
146
in what world is that foul not a yellow?
Jun 10th 2012
147
De Rossi looks like the best CB in the world right now
Jun 10th 2012
149
cassano balling. busquets and pique both having poor halves
Jun 10th 2012
150
uggh. terrible defending of that counter
Jun 10th 2012
152
Italy deserved that. this ticky tacky shit is out of control w/ Spain.
Jun 10th 2012
153
and it looks like there's a blueprint developing to beat the Barca style
Jun 10th 2012
154
Defend well and counter?
Jun 10th 2012
156
      right? teams that have pulled that off recently:
Jun 10th 2012
158
      Oh...Real Madrid didn't win the league this past season?
Jun 10th 2012
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           i added real
Jun 10th 2012
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                I'd add that you have to have the guts to do it.
Jun 10th 2012
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                     this is highly untrue
Jun 10th 2012
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                          the system is unique for uniquely skilled players
Jun 10th 2012
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                               yes and no
Jun 10th 2012
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                                    ADMIT NOTHING!
Jun 10th 2012
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                                         the system won't work well for the US
Jun 10th 2012
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                                              There you go--admitting nothing!
Jun 10th 2012
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                                                   maybe i disagree with you/him?
Jun 10th 2012
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                                                        lol...I'm just imagining you as a POW under interrogation.
Jun 10th 2012
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                                                             i was all hopped up on emotion during the first euro game
Jun 10th 2012
221
      defend w/ slightly exotic midfield formations, but yeah
Jun 10th 2012
160
           that blueprint's been available since the mad one's inter team
Jun 10th 2012
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                and it's slowly getting copied more + more, will continue
Jun 10th 2012
166
                     and barca and spain have changed up their systems too
Jun 10th 2012
169
major problems? hyperbole, thy name is announcing.
Jun 10th 2012
155
WHAT PROBLEMS? WHAT BLUEPRINT?
Jun 10th 2012
157
1 goal is fair for both sides, both could have 2+
Jun 10th 2012
161
      and, tbh, i hate the spain lineup
Jun 10th 2012
162
well there you go -- you CAN pass it into the back of the net
Jun 10th 2012
159
it's been a long time since I've seen a ref this card-averse
Jun 10th 2012
165
nice jinx. lol.
Jun 10th 2012
181
idea: don't rely on your LB to finish crosses in the box
Jun 10th 2012
168
holy shit, i'm about to hate torres as much as all stah.
Jun 10th 2012
170
a chip was open
Jun 10th 2012
171
Buffon ate his lunch there
Jun 10th 2012
173
De Rossi caught out on the trap, the risk of playing out of position
Jun 10th 2012
172
don't forget, spain's CF is hurt
Jun 10th 2012
174
      Chris Wondolowski might be able to add to this Spain lineup
Jun 10th 2012
176
           silva and iniesta are midfielder/wingers
Jun 10th 2012
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                dude, plea cop however you like -- Spain needed a CF for 90' in this gm
Jun 10th 2012
184
                     i said the lineup sucked and i'd replace silva with llorente
Jun 10th 2012
189
imagine if they had an actual F to attack De Rossi all game smh
Jun 10th 2012
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why don't UEFA and FIFA refs use that spray chalk stuff?
Jun 10th 2012
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It's ugly, and uncouth, fuck that
Jun 10th 2012
185
HOLY FUCK TORRES, HOW DO YOU SCREW THAT UP?
Jun 10th 2012
179
important sub w/ Giovinco, Italy was really lacking in the flopping dept
Jun 10th 2012
180
THAT'S FUCKING THREE FUCKING FUCK UPS YOU FUCK UP
Jun 10th 2012
183
imagine if he found those positions over 90', he might actually get one
Jun 10th 2012
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      this is just too much. u hating now.
Jun 10th 2012
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           except it isn't -- Torres created a bunch of good chances w/ movement
Jun 10th 2012
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                because you made it 5 times
Jun 10th 2012
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                     b/c it was so bleedingly obvious the manager cost his team 2 points
Jun 10th 2012
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                          so we agree
Jun 10th 2012
204
                          lmao
Jun 10th 2012
207
draw is fair, both team could have had 3 pts with better luck, too
Jun 10th 2012
187
Does anybody else wanna punch Giuseppe Rossi in the face?
Jun 10th 2012
190
I was pleased he was injured, it's not something I'm proud of
Jun 10th 2012
194
i dont like the exaggerated criticism of Balotelli
Jun 10th 2012
191
I don't know why no one shouted "man on" at him
Jun 10th 2012
196
def understand it was a 'balotelli moment'
Jun 10th 2012
198
'CISM
Jun 10th 2012
203
Alexi Lalas went full on "this will go down in HISTORY!"
Jun 10th 2012
208
      somebody needs to tell him Bill Walton wants his shtick back
Jun 10th 2012
224
My god just tke bob ley out back and end it, this is so bad
Jun 10th 2012
201
right? the fact that he made a chance that shouldn't exist is forgotten
Jun 10th 2012
202
him and Lalas are appalling, really
Jun 10th 2012
205
well that was surprisingly pleasant
Jun 10th 2012
213
Spain looked great when Torres was on
Jun 10th 2012
214
He needs a full 90 to do what?
Jun 11th 2012
226
agreed
Jun 11th 2012
237
Croatia is the only eastern European squad I fucks with
Jun 10th 2012
215
Best game so far - wide open
Jun 10th 2012
217
Given is booty
Jun 10th 2012
219
RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post
Jun 10th 2012
220
Wait, why are you boycotting this tournament?
Jun 10th 2012
222
let's do day three
Jun 11th 2012
227
I'll dispute this point
Jun 11th 2012
235
RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post
Jun 11th 2012
228
so you're boycotting except for you aren't
Jun 11th 2012
232
      RE: so you're boycotting except for you aren't
Jun 11th 2012
270
           Yes, but why?
Jun 11th 2012
271
England versus France
Jun 11th 2012
229
In the interests of accuracy ribery isnt a rapist only
Jun 11th 2012
231
statutory rape still has rape in the name, though. . .
Jun 11th 2012
249
      Dunno if it was really statutory rape though. Consent in France is 15.
Jun 11th 2012
253
you pansies don't get to claim shepherd's pie
Jun 11th 2012
233
lol i read all of this in capitals except this bit
Jun 11th 2012
239
      stop it fam, shepherd's pie is Scottish
Jun 11th 2012
240
rocking the team shirt at work today
Jun 11th 2012
234
allez les nighttrippeurs
Jun 11th 2012
236
God save the queen, motherfuckers. Fuck France.
Jun 11th 2012
242
is there a lot of empty seats or am i looking to hard?
Jun 11th 2012
246
4-3-3 from England? Eyeing up the French full backs?
Jun 11th 2012
241
And the number of French attacking mids is mind boggeling
Jun 11th 2012
243
OX!
Jun 11th 2012
244
I think lunch today will be for 2H France/England
Jun 11th 2012
245
fuck france an all but la marseilleise is the MJ of nat. anthems
Jun 11th 2012
247
ARGUHUGHAUHUHAGUHUH!!!!!
Jun 11th 2012
248
I'd switch him and Gerrard
Jun 11th 2012
250
France should be disgusted with themselves i havent seen
Jun 11th 2012
251
Welp, that's the worst thing for France
Jun 11th 2012
252
well that was fun
Jun 11th 2012
254
Ribery: cunt.
Jun 11th 2012
255
^^^^^^ THIS
Jun 11th 2012
266
Milner = not good enough
Jun 11th 2012
256
RE: Milner = not a winger
Jun 11th 2012
259
2nd half back to shitty england
Jun 11th 2012
257
Nah, they did what they needed to do.
Jun 11th 2012
258
      I bet you both ukraine and sweden are tougher games
Jun 11th 2012
262
           Ukraine sucks dude.
Jun 11th 2012
267
Alexi Lalas is such a clown.
Jun 11th 2012
260
can't really blame England on this one I guess
Jun 11th 2012
261
the last good French group game
Jun 11th 2012
263
eh
Jun 11th 2012
264
      i wasn't really talking about quality of team performance
Jun 11th 2012
275
           OMG France-Romania '08
Jun 11th 2012
277
oh and Alou Diarra actually played a good game, I'm still in shock
Jun 11th 2012
268
Still think Blanc should have gone with M'Vila
Jun 11th 2012
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      M'Vila has barely recovered from his ankle
Jun 11th 2012
279
meh, fuck these brown teeth having, meat boiling, diving ass hoes
Jun 11th 2012
281
Rosenberg gets the start ahead of Elmander? Iiiiiiiiinteresting.
Jun 11th 2012
265
Based on the defending, this match should be 8-8.
Jun 11th 2012
272
Called Sheva, post #37, taking credit, lmao
Jun 11th 2012
273
haha I thought that when he scored the second one
Jun 11th 2012
276
Wow.
Jun 11th 2012
274
Fuck all the hate, I thought RIBS was pretty good tonight
Jun 11th 2012
278
nah, he was average tonight
Jun 11th 2012
280
      Nasri's a punk
Jun 12th 2012
283
also
Jun 11th 2012
282
Czech aren't messing around (also the Greek D sucks)
Jun 12th 2012
284
Unlike 1939, the Poles are resisting Russian advances.
Jun 12th 2012
285
the fuck are you talking about?
Jun 12th 2012
287
      RE: the fuck are you talking about?
Jun 12th 2012
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           oops. my bad.
Jun 13th 2012
289
                smh
Jun 13th 2012
294
                     like I said, my bad, total brain fart
Jun 13th 2012
295
Keller's pronunciation of Russian names is fucking embarrassing.
Jun 12th 2012
286
http://cadfael.tv/image/src/1339445461472.gif
Jun 13th 2012
290
awesome
Jun 13th 2012
291
      can't really blame him, that game was more potent than nyquil
Jun 13th 2012
292
      true. Also just a hunch but pastis "might" have been a reason too
Jun 13th 2012
299
      I loved the commentator going, he's just resting his eyes
Jun 13th 2012
296
NEWS: Russians/Poles hate each other, Antonio Cassano is an idiot
Jun 13th 2012
293
So why will expansion be such a bad thing?
Jun 13th 2012
297
I think it's perfect as it is
Jun 13th 2012
298
Separated at birth:
Jun 13th 2012
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Also:
Jun 13th 2012
301
      Veloso and Pique as well
Jun 13th 2012
303
great game so far (especially that Danish goal)
Jun 13th 2012
302
lol@Cristiano
Jun 13th 2012
304
it's fry time
Jun 13th 2012
305
My god, any of us on this board could have put that away.
Jun 13th 2012
306
I'm not going to be reactionary and will pick Ronaldo
Jun 13th 2012
317
      Ahem, WC 2006
Jun 13th 2012
348
It doesn't get any easier, does it?
Jun 13th 2012
307
Pretty shocking....2 guilt edged chances and dragged both wide
Jun 13th 2012
308
The fans were chanting "Messi" at him, again!
Jun 15th 2012
404
WOWOWOWOWwowowowowowow
Jun 13th 2012
309
wow
Jun 13th 2012
310
Varela..what a fucking cold blooded strike. Absolute power
Jun 13th 2012
311
That was golden. (n/m)
Jun 13th 2012
312
he (and Bento) just saved Cristiano from a monumental L
Jun 13th 2012
313
Nicky Pink Boots is such an asshole
Jun 13th 2012
314
In other news, who knew the White Stripes were so popular in Europe.
Jun 13th 2012
315
they're popular with annoying copycat futbol fans, mostly
Jun 13th 2012
316
      Well, in all fairness...Seven Nation Army is a great record
Jun 13th 2012
321
not very likely based on the 1st games, but if the Dutch beat the 'shaft
Jun 13th 2012
318
considering how the 2d games have gone I almost expect the dutch to win
Jun 13th 2012
319
what the fuck was Poulsen doing on that goal?
Jun 13th 2012
320
lol @ squeezing in talk of the USA into the broadcast
Jun 13th 2012
322
Mannschaft ain't playing around
Jun 13th 2012
323
Dutch have no answers. This looks like abuse.
Jun 13th 2012
324
Gulp.
Jun 13th 2012
325
Defense is terrible
Jun 13th 2012
326
      RvP not doing sh't?
Jun 13th 2012
336
           Nice goal. Terrible tournament.
Jun 13th 2012
342
Germany is taking the whole pot
Jun 13th 2012
327
false, netherlands sucks. proper finishing dutch win 4-2
Jun 13th 2012
330
kinda funny how the match died down after the Dutch goal
Jun 13th 2012
328
it was curious
Jun 13th 2012
337
      It really was, Wesley, rvp and huntelarr were only ones pressed
Jun 13th 2012
349
I'm confused....+
Jun 13th 2012
329
That's 2nd tie breaker; first is goal difference
Jun 13th 2012
332
      It's actually entirely possible.
Jun 13th 2012
333
      no, head-to-head is first tiebreaker
Jun 13th 2012
338
           But can't be if 3 teams tied....
Jun 13th 2012
339
                it's basically head-to-head
Jun 13th 2012
340
                     goal differential first though
Jun 13th 2012
341
                          no, head-to-head is first tiebreaker
Jun 13th 2012
344
                               that's weird
Jun 13th 2012
346
                               That's opposite of qualification. I stand corrected.
Jun 13th 2012
347
                                    it's been like that in finals for a while, I wanna say
Jun 13th 2012
350
                                    it's weird too because World Cup tiebreaker is GD
Jun 14th 2012
352
Group of Death final day scenarios
Jun 13th 2012
331
Here's the tie-breaking criteria
Jun 13th 2012
334
I came to sports to say: fuck our national team.
Jun 13th 2012
335
i wish this Torres storyline would die
Jun 13th 2012
343
people see what they want to see
Jun 13th 2012
345
so...Germany found themselves a new Beckhenbauer type?
Jun 13th 2012
351
Supposedly Torres looked good in training
Jun 14th 2012
353
Best German side I've seen in years to be honest
Jun 14th 2012
354
IMO they "looked" better in 08 and 10
Jun 14th 2012
355
PIRLO
Jun 14th 2012
356
Ita v Croa is pretty great so far
Jun 14th 2012
357
Italy looks fantastic.
Jun 14th 2012
358
What's the Italian for "Football, bloody hell?"
Jun 14th 2012
360
Group A has been surprisingly entertaining, too.
Jun 14th 2012
359
Croatia aggressive, paid off...terrible marking by Chiellini
Jun 14th 2012
361
These stadiums are gorgeous though, damn
Jun 14th 2012
362
"SUCK IT" - Torres
Jun 14th 2012
363
good finish
Jun 14th 2012
364
      Cmon Given had no chance there. No keeper in the world would have
Jun 14th 2012
366
Spain's gonna put 5 on 'em
Jun 14th 2012
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that's not really how they roll
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      It's not really like they took their foot off the gas.
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I think UEFA/FIFA needs to do something about boot colors.
Jun 14th 2012
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lol, random
Jun 14th 2012
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Torres needs to say, fuck all this passing. I'm shooting every touch.
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Lol how did that squeak through?
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cheeky
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David Silva is the only spaniard I really fucks with
Jun 14th 2012
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cue all_stah in 5..4..3..
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BOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 14th 2012
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Dammit Fabregas
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as always, props to the Irish fans
Jun 14th 2012
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The Fields of Athenry
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yup
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great soundtrack
Jun 14th 2012
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The irony that the Italians invented the "biscotto"...oh boy...
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not sure I follow you...you gotta be two to tango
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      Not if it's a 2-2, or higher, draw
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           ah word. thanks.
Jun 15th 2012
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RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post
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was this game not on ESPN or something?
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      RE: was this game not on ESPN or something?
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      it was
Jun 14th 2012
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France's lineup
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we knew he wasn't going to play Giroud, he doesn't like the 4-4-2
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      I'm surprised Menez is starting actually
Jun 15th 2012
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           This attack is looking worlds better with Menez in the starting lineup
Jun 15th 2012
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Can we get a Part II post going at some point?
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maybe save it till Group A - Match 3? we can track elimination...
Jun 15th 2012
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      Makes sense.
Jun 15th 2012
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wow match suspended
Jun 15th 2012
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words of wisdom by Michael Ballack
Jun 15th 2012
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That said, he's still leagues better than Lalas
Jun 15th 2012
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      basically
Jun 15th 2012
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OX benched?!?!?! weak sauce
Jun 15th 2012
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If this match stays even, suddenly this group gets real interesting.
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Smashing header
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yep
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You heard it here first: Andy Carroll is gonna get a hat trick today.
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this is late but i'm gonna forget otherwise
Jun 15th 2012
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hat trick my ass
Jun 15th 2012
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Christ almighty, Glen Johnson over Micah Richards, roy?
Jun 15th 2012
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Walcott?!
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FINISH THEM, BIG ANDY!
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DANNY BOY
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That was awesome.
Jun 15th 2012
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so who's sitting for Rooney v. Ukraine?
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Johnson. They're going 3-4-3. Damn the torpedos!
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Carroll; Welbeck, Young and Rooney play very well together
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      it'd be harsh on Carroll though
Jun 15th 2012
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well this was fun
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Woy really is the perfect manager for England.
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well that's more like it
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both teams played hard, my man
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      you're damn right
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Andy!
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Moment of the tournament thus far (youtube)
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Didn't catch it until that second video
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RE: Didn't catch it until that second video
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Yah....much respect for that.
Jun 16th 2012
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Selasse would be a good pick up for a big league club
Jun 16th 2012
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He agreed to a move to Werder Bremen in the bundesliga
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he's not better than Sagna
Jun 18th 2012
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Good. Poland and Russia are soft as shit
Jun 16th 2012
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wow congrats Greece
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This is fun! I gotta get my PIP game up though
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two separate espn3 windows = that shit
Jun 19th 2012
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Group B finales
Jun 17th 2012
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van der wiel's price tag just got slashed in half
Jun 17th 2012
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Black unis in. Soccer is some unnatural shit
Jun 17th 2012
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Germany is looking good... 2-1 win over Denmark
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Well, the group of death was some crazy shit
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that dutch team was awful
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      I don't know...
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           the edge over Germany?
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                the game vs. denmark was the only one i missed
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                     Denmark deserved that win.
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How bad was that Dutch defense all group long?
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also, van bommel went from savvy vet
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Odds Spain/Croatia ends 2-2?
Jun 18th 2012
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Ireland look so hesitant about everything
Jun 18th 2012
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Do the Spanish regard shooting the ball as some sort of failure?
Jun 18th 2012
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too much of a risk, the other team may get the ball
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Ballotelli
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Balotelli is KANG!
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^^
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BALO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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the focus on his face on the replay
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lol @ the ESPN guys on the Spanish goal
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croatia was fouling spain in the box on every corner, too
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no reason to mention offsides because no one was offsides
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      I thought it was very close
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           100% agree
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           Italy looks really good to me. fuck.
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                I'll admit that's been gnawing at me a little bit
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           it was close, but it was onside
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De Rossi > Homosapien
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God bless him, you mean
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RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post
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welcome back, everyone missed you
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      RE: welcome back, everyone missed you
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           Not very physical, doesn't play to his strengths.
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                isn't he best suited to a bench role?
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                     He and the OX have similar games.
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                     RE: isn't he best suited to a bench role?
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UEFA is completely fucked
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RE: UEFA is completely fucked
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RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post
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RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post
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What exactly is England's strategy here?
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RE: What exactly is England's strategy here?
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RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post
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RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post
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RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post
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Holy shit Zlatan
Jun 19th 2012
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welp, that was a goal.
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RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post
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RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post
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lol @ England winning this group.
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RE: lol @ England winning this group.
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RE: lol @ England winning this group.
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indeed
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      Christian Wilhelmsson was styling on y'all, man.
Jun 19th 2012
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      Rami has been doo-doo juice this whole tourney
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           word
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      Gotdamn that was ugly. Still hoping they pull off the miracle next game
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mwahahaha wtf was that
Jun 19th 2012
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without Lloris we're taking 5 in the face.
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      RE: without Lloris we're taking 5 in the face.
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So FIFA added goal line refs
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actually that's UEFA
Jun 20th 2012
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      how do you fuck that up!????
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      RE: how do you fuck that up!????
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      hahaha speak of the devil (literally)
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           lol@the comments
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Drizzit
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1. "on a positive note: dutch racially abused at practice"
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and so the disaster begins.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/07/euro-2012-holland-racist-abuse

Euro 2012 was plunged into its first racism controversy after the black players in the Holland squad were subjected to monkey chants during an open practice session in the same city where England will also invite the public to watch them train on Friday.

Several hundred people targeted players such as Nigel de Jong and Gregory van der Wiel when 25,000 spectators attended the Dutch practice session at the Stadion Miejski, the home of Wisla Krakow.

The players, on the instructions of the captain, Mark van Bommel, responded by moving their training drills to the other side of the ground. "It is a real disgrace especially after getting back from Auschwitz that you are confronted with this," Van Bommel said. "We will take it up with Uefa and if it happens at a match we will talk to the referee and ask him to take us off the field."

The problems occurred as the players began the session by jogging a lap of the pitch only to be greeted at one end of the stadium with monkey noises and loud jeers. On the second circuit, they were even louder and it was then the players decided not to go around again. "At least now we know what we can encounter," the Holland coach, Bert van Marwijk, said with heavy cynicism. "Very atmospheric."

Uefa subsequently tried to deny that it was racially motivated, saying they had checked with the Dutch squad and had been told it was not thought to be of that nature. Instead, the official line is that a small part of the crowd was protesting about the fact that Krakow had not been made one of the host cities. Another theory that has been put forward is that Wisla's supporters did not want their stadium being used by anyone but their own club and were simply booing the Dutch players.

Van Bommel, however, responded angrily when it was put to him not everyone had heard monkey noises. "You need to open your ears," he said. "If you did hear it, and don't want to hear it, that is even worse."

Privately, the midfielder is understood to be unhappy that the authorities are not treating the issue more seriously, but the incident is still threatening to be a major embarrassment for Uefa, coming before a ball has even been kicked, and will increase the scrutiny on Poland's supporters when the tournament opens with the co-hosts playing Greece in Warsaw on Friday.

The Polish authorities have been eager to dispel the sense that the backdrop to this tournament will have racism at its centre, and the country's prime minister, Donald Tusk, went through an elaborate public relations exercise on Thursday to drive home the point. Tusk was accompanied by a television crew on a 90-mile journey to Lodz to dine with Poland's first black parliamentarian, John Godson, and his family, including relatives who had flown in from Nigeria. The idea was to show the improvements both in Poland's road network and acceptance of different races.

Godson criticised the BBC Panorama documentary Euro 2012: Stadiums of Hate that had warned racism would be rife. He argued that Poland was a "hospitable and tolerant country" while Tusk wore a badge that said "Welcome" and said he was convinced there would be no problems: "I very warmly invite all English people. You will definitely not encounter anything unpleasant here."

Panorama had focused on the racist elements in the support of Krakow's two major clubs, Wisla and Cracovia, as well as highlighting the seriousness of the problem in Ukraine. Michel Platini, the Uefa president, has subsequently said the referees have been empowered to take teams off the pitch if there are serious issues – but added that any player who walked off without permission would be booked.

The families of two of England's black players, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Theo Walcott, have already decided against travelling to the tournament because of the potential problems. England are based in Krakow, along with the Netherlands and Italy squads, and will allow the public to watch Friday's practice session at Hutnik stadium on the outskirts of the city.

  

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Buck
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3. "Just about to post this."
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Very little respect for eastern Europe right now.

  

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5. "open practice sessions are different than ticketed games"
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at least, that's what i am pinning my hopes on.

but, yeah, fuck those people ... and UEFA for thinking this was a good idea. can't wait for Russia 2018.

  

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6. "Yeah, but the games may well be worse."
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But one way of thinking about it is that if it does get really, really bad, it might embarrass UEFA enough that they have to take it seriously. Sort of bring the whole issue to a head and force a real confrontation of the problem.

Just hope nobody has to actually die for that happen.

  

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9. "balotelli may well see to that"
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>Just hope nobody has to actually die for that happen.

http://www.boxofficefootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Mario-Balotelli-hat-300x208.jpg

  

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11. "shit's fucking disgusting"
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what the Polish govt should have said is, if any of this bullshit pops out in one of the stadiums, our cops have free reign to go in and apprehend the guilty parties (and by that I mean crack skulls).

  

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23. "UEFA refusing to investigate further unless incident is "repeated""
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when? At the next open-practice in that stadium?

gutless...


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/08/racist-chants-holland-uefa

  

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2. "Group stage schedule"
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8 Jun, 17:00 A Poland v Greece
8 Jun, 19:45 A Russia v Czech
9 Jun, 17:00 B Netherlands v Denmark
9 Jun, 19:45 B Germany v Portugal
10 Jun, 17:00 C Spain v Italy
10 Jun, 19:45 C Republic of Ireland v Croatia
11 Jun, 17:00 D France v England
11 Jun, 19:45 D Ukraine v Sweden
12 Jun, 17:00 A Greece v Czech Republic
12 Jun, 19:45 A Poland v Russia
13 Jun, 17:00 B Denmark v Portugal
13 Jun, 19:45 B Netherlands v Germany
14 Jun, 17:00 C Italy v Croatia
14 Jun, 19:45 C Spain v Republic of Ireland
15 Jun, 17:00 D Ukraine v France
15 Jun, 19:45 D Sweden v England
16 Jun, 19:45 A Czech Republic v Poland
16 Jun, 19:45 A Greece v Russia
17 Jun, 19:45 B Denmark v Germany
17 Jun, 19:45 B Portugal v Netherlands
18 Jun, 19:45 C Italy v Republic of Ireland
18 Jun, 19:45 C Croatia v Spain
19 Jun, 19:45 D England v Ukraine
19 Jun, 19:45 D Sweden v France

All times GMT. -5:00 for EST.

  

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4. "they cldnt start with a couple better matches?"
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7. "eh"
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Russia v Czech could be a decent one. Or not, but meaningful international futbol on a Friday is never a bad thing

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NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets

  

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10. "i suppose"
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nighttripper
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12. "I'm reading Russia's playing well lately"
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and the Czech generally play an entertaining brand of futbol, so yeah, that should be good.

Poland/Greece might be a WOAT contender, on the other hand.

  

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44. "Poland making me look like a fool"
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>Poland/Greece might be a WOAT contender, on the other hand.
>

I haven't paid that much attention, but this has been a pretty lively game so far, thanks to them

  

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21. "Pots were random + always start with the host country"
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Look on the positive side: Group B and C are on the weekend.

  

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8. "oops ... meant 2016"
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where is that euro being held?

  

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14. "FRANCE, BITCHES"
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needless to say, I already know what my vacation dates will be in 2016

  

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16. "so what's the story with expansion?"
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this completely flew by me, first thing I've heard of it

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NCAA BB: Arizona / NCAA FB: Michigan
NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets

  

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17. "expanding to 24 teams in 2016"
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platini has mumbled something here and there about widening the pool to ensure all the top teams are present for the tournament, but it's so obviously a cash grab. don't know much more than that.

  

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13. "IN! No travel on calendar next 2 weeks. Signed up for cable"
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WITH DVR, just need to stay away from all media during the day. Taking it back to the 98 WC where I watched every single game while working a FT internship, that Sony VCR came thru like a champ.

  

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15. "*sigh* spain"
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its inevitable

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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18. "GROUP A DISCUSSION"
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8 June 2012
Poland - Greece
Russia - Czech Republic

12 June 2012
Greece - Czech Republic
Poland - Russia

16 June 2012
Czech Republic - Poland
Greece - Russia

(figured i would try and keep this shit orderly)

  

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benny
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24. "definitely rooting for Poland in this group"
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two French guys on the squad (Obraniak and Perquis), one of the best young strikers in Lewandowski and overall one of the youngest teams in the tourney. Also they've apparently pissed off some right-wingers because a bunch of the players aren't "true poles" as they didn't grow up in Poland.

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NCAA BB: Arizona / NCAA FB: Michigan
NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets

  

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theothursdays
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27. "Russia chooses Malafeev over Akinfeev"
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there goes one of my fantasy goalies

nm still time to change

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Buck
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43. "Poland/Greece may be the most unpronouceable game of the tourney."
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magilla vanilla
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53. "I'm liveblogging Russia/Czech later"
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catch me at fourfivetwo.com

I'm looking forward to wearing out the consonants on my keyboard.

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55. "nice, I'll make sure to follow that"
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MLB: Mets / Soccer: PSG
NCAA BB: Arizona / NCAA FB: Michigan
NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets

  

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Mister Winter
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56. "RE: I'm liveblogging Russia/Czech later"
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You are part of that team? Excellent. I have been following since it debuted (did you link to it here?). Good work all around.

  

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58. "Thanks, man! Yeah, I'm the "beer and pundits" guy, pretty much."
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59. "RE: Thanks, man! Yeah, I'm the "beer and pundits" guy, pretty much."
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I have been bothering BG on occasion for his coverage of South American soccer (he does good work, but he is an Independiente fan, so he must be messed with). Again, congrats. I will be at a match during Russia-Czech Republic, but I will look for your posts in the future.

  

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69. "Here it is with 10 mins left"
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http://fourfivetwo.com/2012/06/08/euro-2012-liveblog-russia-v-czech-republic/

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19. "GROUP B DISCUSSION"
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9 June 2012
Netherlands - Denmark
Germany - Portugal

13 June 2012
Denmark - Portugal
Netherlands - Germany

17 June 2012
Portugal - Netherlands
Denmark - Germany

  

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25. "Does anyone believe in Portugal??"
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With that said, that white kit is dope. One of my favorites right now.

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20. "GROUP C DISCUSSION"
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10 June 2012
Spain - Italy
Republic of Ireland - Croatia

14 June 2012
Italy - Croatia
Spain - Republic of Ireland

18 June 2012
Croatia - Spain
Italy - Republic of Ireland

  

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22. "GROUP D DISCUSSION"
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11 June 2012
France - England
Ukraine - Sweden

15 June 2012
Ukraine - France
Sweden - England

19 June 2012
England - Ukraine
Sweden - France

  

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26. "Meltdown vs. meltdown jr."
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One of those teams won't make it out of the group stages.

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31. "france will ... their form right now = 0_o"
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england has a good chance, but they really need to respond to adversity in a way NEVER EVER have. every international tourney, they have some shit and every tourney, they shit themselves.

and, if england do get out, presumably in the second spot, they will more than likely meet spain in the quarterfinals. yuck.

  

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52. "I see France and Ukraine going through"
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This is the weakest England side I've seen in years to be honest.


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57. "I see it as France and Sweden"
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The swedes have excellent attacking options, and might have the best midfield in the group. I see them beating the Ukraine and drawing against both England and France.

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28. "GROUP PREDICTIONS"
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Group A
Poland
Greece
Russia
Czech Republic

Group B
Netherlands
Denmark
Germany
Portugal

Group C
Spain
Italy
Republic of Ireland
Croatia

Group D
Ukraine
Sweden
France
England

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29. "RE: GROUP PREDICTIONS"
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Group A
1- Russia
2- Poland

Group B
1- Netherlands
2- Germany

Group C
1- Spain
2- Croatia

Group D
1- France
2- Sweden


I have a Germany-Netherlands final with Germany winning

Portugal is the wildcard in all of this, but I think the champion comes from Group B

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32. "hmm ... "
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>Group A
>Poland
>Russia

>Group B
>Netherlands
>Germany

>Group C
>Spain
>Croatia

>Group D
>France
>England

  

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33. "Okay"
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>Group A
>Poland
>Greece
>Russia
>Czech Republic

tempted to type "who cares", but: 1st Russia 2nd Poland


>Group B
>Netherlands
>Denmark
>Germany
>Portugal

1. Germany 2. Netherlands

>Group C
>Spain
>Italy
>Republic of Ireland
>Croatia

1.Italy 2. Spain

>Group D
>Ukraine
>Sweden
>France
>England

1. France 2. England

  

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34. "RE: GROUP PREDICTIONS"
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>Group A
>Russia
>Czech Republic

>Group B
>Netherlands
>Germany

>Group C
>Spain
>Italy

>Group D
>France
>England

  

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54. "RE: GROUP PREDICTIONS"
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>Group A
>Russia
>Czech Republic
>
>Group B
>Netherlands
>Germany

>
>Group C
>Spain
>Italy
>
>Group D
>Ukraine
>France

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30. "So how about some individual honors predictions"
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Golden Boot?

Breakout star?

Best goalkeeper?

Veteran throwback performance?

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35. "okay"
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>Golden Boot?

Whichever striker Germany goes with. Gomez or Klose, but I'm giving outside nods to Ozil who should get involved often.

>Breakout star?

Piszczek from Poland. Class.

>Best goalkeeper?

Lloris, only because he's going to get worked the most.

>Veteran throwback performance?

Xavi's swan song. Have to give it to him.

  

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40. "RE: okay"
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>>Golden Boot?
>
>Whichever striker Germany goes with. Gomez or Klose, but I'm
>giving outside nods to Ozil who should get involved often.
>

I was thinking Benzema, with an outside shout for Balotelli. Klose/Gomez seems like the safe bet tho

>>Breakout star?
>
>Piszczek from Poland. Class.
>

Haven't seen him, looking forward to it.

>>Best goalkeeper?
>
>Lloris, only because he's going to get worked the most.
>
lmao. I know who will be found out this summer, Joe Hart.

>>Veteran throwback performance?
>
>Xavi's swan song. Have to give it to him.
>
No love for Milan Baros?

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61. "I think it's Benzi, even though I have France losing to RoI in the Qtrs...."
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Because I think Ze Germans will get too many goals from all over the pitch. .. Ozil, Muller, Schweini, Kroos, and even Lahm will also contribute, while Benzi's only REALLY "competing" with Francky Scarface for goals.

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36. "Alexi Lalas and Michael Ballack in the studio."
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I'm not yet sure what I think about that.

edit: oops...replied in the wrong place.

  

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38. "not a good start"
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I think I fell asleep listening to those two (plus Ley doing the wooden ESPN anchor thing) for 3 mins

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41. "Well, I know I hate Lalas as a commentator."
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And Ballack was a supremely unlikable player. But maybe he'll be okay as a talking head.

  

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42. "you are not kidding, damn."
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Ballack sounds like he's on horse tranquilizers.

  

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37. "RE: So how about some individual honors predictions"
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>Golden Boot?
RVP-- Germany will spread it around too much

>Breakout star?
Depending on who between Schurrle, Reus or Gotze gets enough PT


>Best goalkeeper?
Neuer

>Veteran throwback performance?
If Shevchenko scores a goal does that count? Then him

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105. "RE: So how about some individual honors predictions"
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>Golden Boot?
Benzema, Benzema and mo Benzema...despite their leaky defense I think France is gon fuck around and take this....and I'm a Spain fan
>
>Breakout star?
Gregory van der Wiel
>
>Best goalkeeper?

Casillas
>
>Veteran throwback performance?

Pirlo
>
>

  

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39. "yo this is the GOAT Opening Ceremony, all other nations just stop now"
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a nat'l futsal team member playing Chopin before he's enjoyed by the, to quote the ESPN announcer, "DJ of the moment"?

Poland just took the Opening Ceremony game OVER

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45. "Red Devils getting one hell of a player in Lewandowski"
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Poachers poacher, yet does enough other things to justify leading a line regularly.

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46. "him and Kagawa are such good pickups"
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they'll do well in the EPL

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47. "https://p.twimg.com/Au4ZMJmCAAAW58v.jpg"
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hahaha

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49. "beautiful"
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48. "Greece sucks and deserves to lose, but that red is some bullshit."
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No need for this ref to accelerate their demise.

  

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50. "maybe David Stern is in charge of soccer refs too?"
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yes I am still bitter about Wednesday

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51. "RE: Greece sucks and deserves to lose, but that red is some bullshit."
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Followed by the non-call on that handball (not automatic, but yikes...) and this Greece team has a bleaker future than its country's economy.

  

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60. "bad joke answered with good goal"
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63. "Wrong"
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Terrible joke answered with poor defending. Seriously, I have never seen a soccer ball literally stop in the box. It stopped. No one was around.

  

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64. "Thought it was actually a decent joke."
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Suffice to say neither of these chump-ass teams are winning anything.

  

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62. "dang this game is kinda crazy"
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65. "yo who do I call to get some Dzagoev stock?"
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67. "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_mafia"
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66. "Russia looking strong in attack."
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The Czechs used to be really good at this sport. What happened?

  

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68. "dunno"
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ppl make fun of Portugal's shortcomings (golden generation blablabla) but IMO the Czech deserve the same kind of criticism, if not more since they've actually achieved much less

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133. "I somehow missed this nice little side plot"
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I think it has to do with likeability

Nedved and 'em is definitely up there in the pantheon of underachieving golden generations, as they never even matched the initial euro campaign that got them noticed in 2004. But the way you feel about it is, 'it's a shame'...when it comes to Figo and Cristiano and em, it's full on shadenfreude, because, well, fuck these whining, cheating sons of bitches.

  

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138. "I was thinking all the way back to the '70s."
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When Czechoslovakia were exciting and innovative. Of course I don't actually remember that, but that's what I've read, anyway.

I imagine the splitting of the country did no good, but then again, what's Slovakia ever done?

  

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199. "if you go back that far, they won the '76 euro"
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so I wouldn't really call that team underachieving

  

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209. "No--original comment about them being really good."
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223. "oh I see, my bad."
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well...they had a nice team in the 70s and then another one (albeit underachieving) in the 00s, but I don't think they ever were a great futbol country that you expect them to be competitive every time (like Germany, Italy or Holland...and more recently France).

  

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70. "First half they just pushed forward without any shape"
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and so were easily caught on the break. They started much better at that the second half, but after the goal lost their discipline.

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71. "lol@Poland playing the offside trap 1 man up (& other day 1 musings)"
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- that Poland/Greece ended up in the extremely sloppy yet crazy entertaining category. Poland was the better side, technically, but they're clearly soft mentally (and dumb). Not mustering a win w/that type of home cooking = epic fail.

- let's talk about the Jesus looking Greek forward (more like Jesus's troll older brother). Samaras, I wanna say? I don't think I've ever seen a least talented player on that type of stage ever. Square feet like a motherfucker.

- I felt bad for Karagounis, he fought tooth & nails, didn't deserve to shank that PK. Props to the sub keeper, on the other hand.

- Russia is looking mighty strong, especially if you spot them a lead. Dzagoev went beast mode all game, the Pavlyuchenko goal is an early candidate for goal of the tournament and Arshavin might not be shit w/Arsenal, but he comes to play w/his national team (at least in Euros). If he keeps it up, I'm launching a #TEAMARSHAVIN movement just to piss off calminvasion, DonKnutts and the rest of the Arsenal contingent.

  

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73. "Appallingly negative football in that first game"
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UEFA should invent a way to only let Russia out of that group.

  

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82. "Comn man b9, I think you trigger finger is too itchy with this - futbol "
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Shit. Greece is who they are, but at no point watching that game did I think it was extremely negative. They are a defensive team, but yesterday was in no way negative IMO

I actually really enjoyed the game, 1st half Poland looked great, then wilted like bitches, and not due to anything - or uncouth that the Greeks did

  

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84. "AC Jimbo: "Give a little credit to Greece, even if the IMF don't want to..."
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I chuckled.

  

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109. "That's Greece's MO: not good enough to outright attack their opponent"
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and okay, right, that's them and has been for years; their organization at the back normally lets them get by with that.

But Poland approached that game the same way it seemed. Two teams that are sitting back and refusing to really attack is a conundrum.

  

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83. "Building on my day 1 musings"
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Poland was the better side,
>technically, but they're clearly soft mentally (and dumb). Not
>mustering a win w/that type of home cooking = epic fail.
>

100. Soft as shit, it's like they said fuck all the shit that worked n 1st half, let's play for a tie up a man. And yeah Greek Jesus sucks.


>- If he keeps it up,
>I'm launching a #TEAMARSHAVIN movement just to piss off
>calminvasion, DonKnutts and the rest of the Arsenal
>contingent.

Mission accomplished, I'm mad the moment I read, or hear his name. Basically I want Wenger no where near any eastern European games. These commies just never translate to club play at a hi level.

So how bad was Casey Keller. That might have been the worst in game analyst performance I've ever seen in any sport. I actually like Casey as a player, but he made Lalas and balak look like pros in studio.

Overall good start, especially considering the low expectations I had for those two games.

  

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89. "I watched the spanish feed online, so I wouldn't know"
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>So how bad was Casey Keller. That might have been the worst in
>game analyst performance I've ever seen in any sport. I
>actually like Casey as a player, but he made Lalas and balak
>look like pros in studio.
>

I just can't stand the ESPN English broadcast.

>Overall good start, especially considering the low
>expectations I had for those two games.
>

agreed.

  

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72. "if this is how the Russians react when they win..."
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it's going to get really nasty when they lose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOm4IN1G9yU

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74. "great advert for Eastern Europe and World Cup 2018"
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76. "it's insane they've been given the tournaments"
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FIFA know about the issues, and with what has happened to the Dutch already this tournament could turn very ugly I think

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75. "straight up & down i dont fuck w/ NO eastern europeans."
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like...if some shit pops off & dude is named liek Sergei or some shit...im just gonna find something & sock the shit out him from the gate. off the top, point blank. something is wrong w/ the people out there

its what happens when you got generations who grew up w/o a concept of god


do or die

  

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77. "the Polish fans are notorious, this could end badly"
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78. "fuck outta here"
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>its what happens when you got generations who grew up w/o a
>concept of god



  

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79. "Thought you were French. Why does that offend you so much?"
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80. "isn't it quintessentially french to be atheistic"
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or at least agnostic?

you say agnostic to me and I picture a skinny rench dude with a scarf and wearing all black and a fine woman smoking a cigarette seductively sitting at a cafe sipping coffee or eating cured meats and cheese while arguing about the larger meanings of life, why/what "god" is or the political responsibilities of former colonial powers to stop genocides before going home and having some weird freaky sex.

aka, what i want to be.

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81. "I believe France is considered to be a very secular country."
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Church attendance figures in that country support that assumption:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_attendance

That doesn't speak to rates of agnosticism, of course, but at the very least it points to widespread apathy.

And that's a romantic vision you have there. I'd only remark that French cigarettes are absolutely vile, so make sure your socially conscious, Kristeva-reading, insolent contrarian mademoiselle brushes her teeth before that freaky sex.

  

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85. "that's a spectacularly narrow definition of apathy"
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>Church attendance figures in that country support that
>assumption:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_attendance
>
>That doesn't speak to rates of agnosticism, of course, but at
>the very least it points to widespread apathy.


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86. "I wasn't aware I'd defined the word."
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Will you be providing a broader definition?

  

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90. "I won't, you're the one who used the word"
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you basically equated a diminishing rate of church-going (which is absolutely true, furthermore go to any service and it's mostly old folks) with widespread apathy. I don't see the correlation, hence my remark

NBD, I guess I'm just tired of reading NY Times articles about "The French" (and the French press does the same shit in their pieces on the US btw) which get a lot of stuff wrong

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96. "RE: I won't, you're the one who used the word"
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>you basically equated a diminishing rate of church-going
>(which is absolutely true, furthermore go to any service and
>it's mostly old folks) with widespread apathy. I don't see the
>correlation, hence my remark

Wouldn't that mean my definition was too broad, not too narrow? Here, I'll try again: clearly, based on church attendance figures, the great majority of French people don't give a fuck about going to church. Do you have a problem with that?

>NBD, I guess I'm just tired of reading NY Times articles about
>"The French" (and the French press does the same shit in their
>pieces on the US btw) which get a lot of stuff wrong

I know. I periodically read Le Monde.

  

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99. "agreed, now let's leave semantics behind and focus on the footy shall we"
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Here, I'll try again: clearly, based on church
>attendance figures, the great majority of French people don't
>give a fuck about going to church. Do you have a problem with
>that?

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102. "Okay. But French cigarettes are still disgusting."
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104. "you mean Gitanes?"
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yea those are pretty vile

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106. "the blond Gitanes are allright"
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but yeah...the dark ones or even worse the 'mais' are some hardcore disgusting smoker shit

  

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112. "all cigarettes smell nasty to me"
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but yea, Gitanes maïs are probably Satan's favorite brand

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88. "doesn't really 'offend' me, it's just an inane statement"
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- Poland is probably the most backwards assed Catholic country in the world (and remained such even under the communist regime) and also has some of the most violent/racist futbol 'fans' in the world
- Czar-era Russia, which was knee deep in Orthodox Christianity, was not exactly a beacon of peace and enlightenment.
- More generally...consider the number of vile and/or retarded behaviors correlated with religion all over the world, but especially in the US of A.

so, all in all...blaming hooliganism on lack of religion is just some dumb shit.

  

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92. "lol...you're taking all this a little too seriously"
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Bin's old, like me, and a product of cold war education, in which we were taught that the Soviets were godless and therefore lacked the West's sense of morality, and that as a result they would almost certainly launch missiles at us any day now. Since we're American and can barely find Canada on a map, we made no distinction between one Soviet bloc country and another. So blame Kruschev. It's all essentially his fault.

>- Poland is probably the most backwards assed Catholic
>country in the world (and remained such even under the
>communist regime) and also has some of the most violent/racist
>futbol 'fans' in the world

I listen to Behemoth.

>- Czar-era Russia, which was knee deep in Orthodox
>Christianity, was not exactly a beacon of peace and
>enlightenment.

You're losing the plot. Are you gonna list all bad things done in the name of Christianity, or under its auspices?

>- More generally...consider the number of vile and/or retarded
>behaviors correlated with religion all over the world, but
>especially in the US of A.

I'm an angry, raging atheist. Your attempt to irritate me fails here.

>so, all in all...blaming hooliganism on lack of religion is
>just some dumb shit.

lol...no shit, man.

  

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94. "so, wait, you agree w/me?"
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why are we arguing again?

  

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97. "I have no idea."
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>why are we arguing again?

  

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87. "I'm old and been on here too long"
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Looking at the starting lineup for Netherlands I remember posting on here during the 2000 Euros and hyping up the shit out of a young Heitinga. I really thought he would be an absolute stud, he's been good but 12 yrs later he hasn't really lived to my expectations.

It's too bad we weren't diligiant about archiving these big soccer tournament post: euros WCs, even ANCs have made great fodder over the years

  

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93. "say word. I was thinking I was already on okp when Rosicky started"
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he's now the grizzled vet. That's terrible.

  

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91. "Just me or does sneijder look "heavy" even bloated a bit?"
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95. "YESSSSSS"
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I always like Danish teams, and as I said before, I enjoy the failures of this Oranje generation. Good start. Now Denmark is going to be able to unleash their counter game on them.

  

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100. ""Failures" already?? They're still young and lost in the last WC Final!"
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101. "Robben, Van Persie & De Jong are no spring chicken"
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when it comes to euro/world cup futbol, and they're the ones I hate the most

and yes, they got to the final, but I'd say that final was a complete failure as they lost playing thug futbol

  

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98. "WEll this should make things interesting "
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103. "Michael Ballack in civvies looks quite a bit like Matt Damon."
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116. "Like moose from the same can. It's uncanny."
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118. "^^^WISE"
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Also bizarre. But wise.

  

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107. "RVP playing like old rvp"
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108. "He needs to play more like RVD!"
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http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/262/710/5wdq4jcw_display_image.jpg

  

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110. "Netherlands have problems"
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They are so married to RvP, Sneijder and Robbin that it severly handicaps what they can do in the midfield and if Huntelaar off the bench. Plus this defense looks suspect.

  

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111. "Lol coach going all in with those substitutions"
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Moar forwards!

  

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113. "ARRRRGGGGG"
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Van Persie has never played well for Holland in a major tournament. Dude plays like an Englishmen....totally out of tune with the rest of the team. Put him on the bench. And I've beens saying that for 6 years now.

He's a great athlete...but he's not a cerebral player. The dutch play cerebral ball. One of these things is not like the others.

Much respect to the Danes though. No time-wasting and great sportsmanship.

  

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114. "Arsenal and RVP fan, but i agree"
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115. "mark my words germany bout to rape portugal"
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i might be wrong tho but im not

  

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117. "Fuck, Keller is calling this one too?"
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Mcmanaman I can actually standv

  

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122. "Doesn't seem like it at the moment. n/m"
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129. "yeah maybe not i was expecting a 4-0+ result "
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119. "paint drying + nails on chalkboard >>> this ESPN half time crew"
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120. "Ballack brings very little to the table."
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I wonder if it's just inexperience as a broadcaster or lack of comfort with the language. I know dude must have plenty of insight, but he just doesn't get it out.

  

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135. "It's a shame Friedel's contracted to Fox"
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He's been fantastic in analysis for the last two CL finals.

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140. "Friedel would be great, though I think they wanted a guy with Euro exp."
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So I see why they thought Ballack would be a good choice: veteran of several Euros, great-looking guy, Germany's a favorite this year, smart player...just not ready yet. Looks good on paper though. Kudos to his agent.

  

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121. "beyond brutal"
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you ever watch Wenger's "analyses" on TF1? At least his Popovich-like taciturnity makes for awkward entertainment (especially if you're into drinking games). But these dudes don't even have that, they're just bland. Not sure even Paul Gascoigne could inject some fun into this crew

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123. "I'd pay just to see CR7 run at a full sprint, no soccer ball or "
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Game involved, something fun about those sprints

  

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127. "its beautiful n/h"
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having seen him in person that dude can moooove.
picture perfect athlete

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130. "That's who Tom Cruise channels in those MI# sprinting montages"
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230. "lol"
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132. "with a peanut-sized brain"
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>picture perfect athlete

  

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124. "has anybody ever seen one of these short corner kicks work?"
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I was so glad to see France stop doing that shit in the last two friendlies. I can't stand it.

  

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125. "I think my grandfather did once"
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126. "yah...."
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inordinate amount of them today....especially from the Dutch.

  

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148. "this is one of the pet peeves of my g/f when she watches soccer"
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it's hilarious

"why??! I have never seen that work! does that ever work?!?"

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128. "can i get different announcers by pressing the sap button"
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On my remote? I have muted all the games so far.

  

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131. "Ouch, Holland. "
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Defense was terrible, especially on the goal.

Nice job taking a dangerous player out (affellay) and leaving a useless RVP in.

Happy for Denmark & Agger. They were great.

Germany's attack was pretty impotent today.

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134. "day 2 verdict: thoroughly underwhelming"
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Germany won like...Germany. But you just know these bastards are going to rev up nicely winning ugly, to end up in full on steamroller mode right in time for the quarters. Fuck the man shaft, for realz. Even this likeable, multicultural, they're just having fun out there incarnation of it. FUCK THEM and fuck all you wicker park sports bar douches wearing their ugly ass jersey. I'll be the last hater on earth if need be...

Silver lining: the potential for a C. Ronaldo crying sighting shot up.

I've already said my piece on Holland/Denmark, 2nd half was BO. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING. If Marviijk or whatever his name is doesn't swap Huntelaar for RVP in the next game, he's officially a dumbass.

  

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136. "meanwhile, there's been an epic Brazil/Argentina friendly"
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vik, you got one job on these boards, ONE, and that's jocking Messi. How come we haven't heard about this?

I'm about to watch that now if it's on espn.com

  

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139. "seriously, he failed his job"
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here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioScgTUSCMU&feature=related

and what did cristiano do? NOTHING. let's talk about an underwhelming international career, shall we? portugal out in group stages = another ballon d'or for messi, right?

actually, let's not. spain is playing right now.

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225. "that third, game winning goal was truly magic"
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putting that much of a swerve on the ball at full speed...not too many players can do this
too bad there isn't any link with a better definition (the long version of this same shitty one is available on footytube, the Brazilian goals were pretty nice too)

on the first Messi one, the way Higuain snatched the ball from that unsuspecting Brazilian youngster was straight comedy

w/that said, impressive showing for a u23 team

  

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238. "i was in attendance"
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so glad i skipped Euro watching. It was a Cup final disguised as a friendly

  

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137. "interesting lineup for spain"
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cesc as a false 9...definitely playing some seriously tiki taka ball this game.

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141. "Or maybe he's not false. Maybe he'll rage in the air."
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I wanna see Cesc as a dominant physical presence in the box. All elbows and shoulder barges.

  

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143. "Formation reminds me of this "
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/future-news-barcelona-petition-fifa-declare-possession-more-225601843.html

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144. "real madrid murders puppies. scum of the earth."
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151. "Oh I laughed and laughed"
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142. "that's two dangerous free kicks on italian flops already"
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italy being italy.
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145. "ok, tbf, motta getting kicked probably hurt a lot"
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146. "I wanna see Mario run up in the stands and kill a racist Pole."
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That would be compelling television.

  

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147. "in what world is that foul not a yellow?"
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at least a yard away from the ball AND against a goalie?
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149. "De Rossi looks like the best CB in the world right now"
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150. "cassano balling. busquets and pique both having poor halves"
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casillas GOAT goalie?

fabregas and iniesta are about it for showing up in offensive half and iniesta's been trying to beat 3 or 4 defenders by himself at times.

underwhelmed by alba so far--thought he was supposed to be more aggressive offensively, but cassano is just dominating him.

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152. "uggh. terrible defending of that counter"
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di natele coulda passed, shot, walked it in. wtf was ramos doing? and damn pique took an atrocious angle.

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153. "Italy deserved that. this ticky tacky shit is out of control w/ Spain."
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these fools are actually trying to pass it into the back of the net against Italy. just put a damn striker on and play a 4-5-1 for chrissakes. you telling me there's not ONE forward in Spain deserving of time right now? smh

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154. "and it looks like there's a blueprint developing to beat the Barca style"
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156. "Defend well and counter?"
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158. "right? teams that have pulled that off recently:"
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-chelsea
-real once
-italy for 60 minutes.

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164. "Oh...Real Madrid didn't win the league this past season?"
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We shouldn't add:

Osasuna
Madrid
Getafe

Plus Bilbao, Betis, and the other clubs that managed a draw?

  

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167. "i added real"
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>We shouldn't add:
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>Osasuna
>Madrid
>Getafe

>Plus Bilbao, Betis, and the other clubs that managed a draw?

bilbao played a very different game. osasuna and getafe used bad pitches to get an advantage as well.

but basically, the idea that there's a new blueprint is dumb. hercules did this last season and then got relegated. everyone knows what to try to do, the question is whether or not you succeed + how well barca/spain plays.

also--torres? not llorente?

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182. "I'd add that you have to have the guts to do it."
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>but basically, the idea that there's a new blueprint is dumb.
>hercules did this last season and then got relegated. everyone
>knows what to try to do, the question is whether or not you
>succeed + how well barca/spain plays.

I'd also add that, IMO, Barca's system is probably less important than the fact that the roster is loaded with absurdly skilled players. I mean, could you not just play long ball and win with Barca? Couldn't you win with five in the back? Couldn't you with with an old-school catenacchio? Hell, you could probably go 4-2-4 and thrash everybody.

The answer is yes, you could, because outside of RM, nobody else on any roster in La Liga would ever crack Barca's starting XI. Or maybe Llorente, if Villa was hurt.

II'm unimpressed by talk of systems with Barca. Having a shit ton of the greatest players in the world seems crucial to that operation.

  

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188. "this is highly untrue"
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it can be both. and your post was full of hyperbole.

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193. "the system is unique for uniquely skilled players"
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trust me, watch more MLS, it becomes painfully obvious.

every American soccer fan now wants to hump the "possession over everything" style soccer right now, but it's wholly, completely untenable given the skill level in MLS. Aaron Winter, a coach from Ajax, just got shitcanned in Toronto for utterly, utterly failing to implement a 4-3-3, even when he was given carte blanche to hunt out Dutch players from midlevel teams in Holland to install in key positions. and his system didn't just fail, it was the WORST EVER in the history of MLS, opening the season with 9 straight losses.

triangle, creative, interchanging possession play looks great when you have 11 of the most technically gifted players in the world. at other levels, it's totally untenable, duplicate at your own risk. I'm hoping someone here in America figures out how to implement the moving triangles (Jason Kries + RSL are the closest MLS has come) and get results, but I'm not holding my breath.

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206. "yes and no"
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>trust me, watch more MLS, it becomes painfully obvious.

yes, you need to be skilled to pull off the system.

>triangle, creative, interchanging possession play looks great
>when you have 11 of the most technically gifted players in the
>world.

it's not that narrowly applicable. that's where i'm frustrated at the hate--it doesn't take an all-star team to play a good tiki taka game. it takes having skilled players over athletes and having them trained in the system for a long time--and it helps to have them train together more than in other systems.

but they don't need to be "11 of the most technically gifted players in the world" significantly more than other systems need world class players to be a world class side

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210. "ADMIT NOTHING!"
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211. "the system won't work well for the US"
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the system is not reliant on having better players than the other team. it does require a type of player.

but barca's 11 could not play a defense driven game. they'd be awful at it and easy to beat. xavi was seen as a weak link by many before pep instituted the tiki taka system. it's a shot at pep and the system to say it's just the quality of the athletes, a shot i fundamentally disagree with.

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212. "There you go--admitting nothing!"
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216. "maybe i disagree with you/him?"
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(besides the fact that I just agreed with celery on his main anti-klinnsman agenda)

thus admitting something would be saying something i don't believe.
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218. "lol...I'm just imagining you as a POW under interrogation."
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Arms crossed, jaw clenched, steadfastly denying everything.

(which is to say, it ain't that serious)

  

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221. "i was all hopped up on emotion during the first euro game"
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against a team i hate.

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160. "defend w/ slightly exotic midfield formations, but yeah"
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and it seems that there are becoming clear ideas about where to place certain type of personnel to make the counter effective

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163. "that blueprint's been available since the mad one's inter team"
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beat barce in the CL.

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166. "and it's slowly getting copied more + more, will continue"
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169. "and barca and spain have changed up their systems too"
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but the basic "blueprint" isn't new or special and the system hasn't been proven to be easily cracked or anything. this narrative of the system's flaws being exposed recently is overly simple and not really accurate.

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155. "major problems? hyperbole, thy name is announcing."
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157. "WHAT PROBLEMS? WHAT BLUEPRINT?"
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TIKI TAKA FOR LIFE.

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161. "1 goal is fair for both sides, both could have 2+"
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162. "and, tbh, i hate the spain lineup"
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silva is iniesta lite. you don't need both. (ironically, both were critical in the goal build up, but still).

similarly, xabi alonso + busquets is overkill and lacks pace at the same time. plus, busquets is playing a pretty poor game. del bosque is playing the most skilled team he can field, but not the best side.

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159. "well there you go -- you CAN pass it into the back of the net"
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165. "it's been a long time since I've seen a ref this card-averse"
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I'm surprised Italy isn't taking advantage by thugging it up more.

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181. "nice jinx. lol."
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tbf, that was an elbow, but cmon.
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168. "idea: don't rely on your LB to finish crosses in the box"
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170. "holy shit, i'm about to hate torres as much as all stah."
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SHOOT THE FUCKING BALL.
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171. "a chip was open"
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as was going to other way wide as buffon had already committed to one side. sigh.
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173. "Buffon ate his lunch there"
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172. "De Rossi caught out on the trap, the risk of playing out of position"
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amazing what dimensions an actual CF (leading the line) can bring to the game, isn't it?

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174. "don't forget, spain's CF is hurt"
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villa's normally providing that option regularly. i'd have preferred llorente in the lineup he'd have chipped that over buffon. or at least shot..

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176. "Chris Wondolowski might be able to add to this Spain lineup"
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6 midfielders is a joke

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178. "silva and iniesta are midfielder/wingers"
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iniesta plays LW a lot. same for silva.

but i already said i don't like the lineup because you don't need both iniesta + silva on the pitch at the same time.

llorente and negredo are there. torres and pedro are decent wing options. just a silly lineup by del bosque.


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184. "dude, plea cop however you like -- Spain needed a CF for 90' in this gm"
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189. "i said the lineup sucked and i'd replace silva with llorente"
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and would have pulled busquets off and let xabi play DMF alone because you don't need both and busquets was playing poorly.


so stop trying to fight and start acknowledging that as much as torres created chances, he also blew them. you don't get credit for only doing one. you prove the team should play llorente, that's it.


also, some of those chances were created because he was fresh against defenders who had been running like crazy all game.

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175. "imagine if they had an actual F to attack De Rossi all game smh"
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177. "why don't UEFA and FIFA refs use that spray chalk stuff?"
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gotta give MLS credit for using that. the wall creeping forward is such obnoxious, cynical and smart football. so easy to remove from the game.

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185. "It's ugly, and uncouth, fuck that "
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179. "HOLY FUCK TORRES, HOW DO YOU SCREW THAT UP?"
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christ. such great play to get the break started and then...pure shit.

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180. "important sub w/ Giovinco, Italy was really lacking in the flopping dept"
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183. "THAT'S FUCKING THREE FUCKING FUCK UPS YOU FUCK UP"
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goddam torres. so good and then...so bad. wide open pass available that time. smfh.
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186. "imagine if he found those positions over 90', he might actually get one"
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stop focusing on his finishing. focus on what he opened up with his movement.

Spain's best chances in the 2nd half (even including the goal, because that was a tight chance / passing move) ALL came though him, ALL because his movement was exposing the out of position De Rossi.

it doesn't have to be a like for like replacement of David Villa. it just needs to be someone that moves like a F, not like a midfielder.

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192. "this is just too much. u hating now."
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>Spain's best chances in the 2nd half (even including the goal,
>because that was a tight chance / passing move) ALL came
>though him, ALL because his movement was exposing the out of
>position De Rossi.

hahaha. torres came on 10 minutes AFTER the goal. so the goal chance was due to the threat of him coming onto the pitch? or they didn't get a good chance, even though they scored on a classic tiki taka move?


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195. "except it isn't -- Torres created a bunch of good chances w/ movement"
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more than Spain's midfield swarm made before he arrived. which leads me to believe Spain likely would have won this game if they had a F playing for 90'. which was my point.

tiki taki earned a draw. glad you're happy with that. inserting a forward, any forward, into the lineup would have given you 3 points imo. it's not hate, it's an honest appraisal. I have no idea why you feel the need to defend the team against that critique when you say yourself it's a valid critique.

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197. "because you made it 5 times"
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and in a way that makes it seem like tiki taka was the flaw.

no, the flaw was bad personnel decision. and you're making too big a claim about torres' ability to improve the system. more that players weren't out of position (cesc is not a false 9).

>more than Spain's midfield swarm made before he arrived.
>which leads me to believe Spain likely would have won this
>game if they had a F playing for 90'. which was my point.
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>tiki taki earned a draw. glad you're happy with that.
>inserting a forward, any forward, into the lineup would have
>given you 3 points imo. it's not hate, it's an honest
>appraisal. I have no idea why you feel the need to defend the
>team against that critique when you say yourself it's a valid
>critique.
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>calm down, player.


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200. "b/c it was so bleedingly obvious the manager cost his team 2 points"
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and bad finishing aside, Torres was the biggest reason Spain was able to match Italy's chances through the final 15' of the match.

but you in here hating on him, when really you should be mad at the manager for not giving him enough time to miss 6 more before he finally hit the net.

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204. "so we agree"
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system fine, torres is a terrible finisher, and del bosque screwed up his personnel (including using torres instead of llorente as a sub). cool.

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207. "lmao"
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>not giving him enough time to miss 6 more
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187. "draw is fair, both team could have had 3 pts with better luck, too"
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190. "Does anybody else wanna punch Giuseppe Rossi in the face?"
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194. "I was pleased he was injured, it's not something I'm proud of"
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191. "i dont like the exaggerated criticism of Balotelli"
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he held it a bit long

but wasnt that kind of a foul by Ramos?

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196. "I don't know why no one shouted "man on" at him"
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seems like he was totally unaware he was being closed down. typically you'd expect a shout from a teammate in that case.

but that's Balotelli. he was too nonchalant and his teammates probably never expected him to lollygag it that bad, anyway.

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198. "def understand it was a 'balotelli moment'"
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someone prob did shout at him, i believe the announcers even said cassano was in space for a possible pass. dont think they showed the replay with that angle tho

  

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203. "'CISM"
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seriously, Lalas going bonkers over this is retarded. Balotelli waited because he knows he has ZERO SHOT at scoring on Casillas from that angle. He was looking to pass, and Cassano didn't flash forward fast enough. Or, I don't know, maybe he did and Balotelli was just a hair late passing the ball, I need to see a replay, but in any case, it's not a huge miss people should be up in arms about, Ramos just made a good defensive play.

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208. "Alexi Lalas went full on "this will go down in HISTORY!""
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201. "My god just tke bob ley out back and end it, this is so bad"
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Lol at him trying to start Mario drama when there was none. Balak nd boring Italian boy were having none of it.

And the missed chance was completely created by him, not like someone set him u with an easy sitter and he whiffed a la rvp

  

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202. "right? the fact that he made a chance that shouldn't exist is forgotten"
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205. "him and Lalas are appalling, really"
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213. "well that was surprisingly pleasant"
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I like the way this Italian squad played, whereas Spain seemed pretty content with its strategy most of the time. To be fair Spain woulda won if Torres had converted on one of the quadrillion chances he got... But a draw seems like a fairly logical result.

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214. "Spain looked great when Torres was on"
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his movement was fantastic. Shit lineup though and it showed for most of the match. Stop throwing Torres on expecting goals, it just racks his brain, and let the lad play 90.







  

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226. "He needs a full 90 to do what?"
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Miss 10 more great chances?

He dicked those plays like he's been doing with almost eveything for the past two years.

WYSIWYG.

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215. "Croatia is the only eastern European squad I fucks with"
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Soccer and basketball : sucker and kukoc

  

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217. "Best game so far - wide open"
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220. "RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post"
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Spain should have went with Soldado. Torres up top will only lead to frustration. he'll give you an illusion with his workrate, but then faulter with his chances.

This Spain team will revert back to the Spain team before Villa took over......good, but not great.

anyway, I just wanted to chime in on that, let me continue boycotting this tournament.

  

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222. "Wait, why are you boycotting this tournament?"
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I missed this.

  

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227. "let's do day three"
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- a good day for fans of classic #10 players. I'll cop to not watching the whole Spain/Italy game, but the little I really paid attention to (when I was not running after my daughter), Pirlo was housing. And then you had Modric, who clowned a weak bunch of Irish men all night.

- let's talk about anthems...as we all know, CCCP/Russia is possibly GOAT, definitely top 3 (my other favorite is South Africa), but I gotta say, an Irish crowd belting the Soldier's song is pretty damn stirring too.

- Irish crowds are always great, btw. Much more so than their sucky teams (in futbol, that is).

- Shay Given is a fat stiff at this point. No extension whatsoever. The first goal was already laughable, but the third one really upped the ante...granted, croatian bol (Mandzukic?) found the post, pretty much the ultimate spot to put that header, so Iker Casillas may have surrendered that goal, but the hilarious thing on the slo mo is you see fat jim carey there about 3 feet away from the ball. A slow bounce would've done him.

- speaking of Iker...bolstering up 'dat GOAT claim
http://thatfilmthing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/little-fockers-poster-robert-de-niro.jpg
definitely top 3 for sure

- not impressed w/Spain, though. Wouldn't be surprised to see them getting creamed by Croatia. Italy, on the other hand...fuck.

  

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235. "I'll dispute this point"
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>- Shay Given is a fat stiff at this point. No extension
>whatsoever. The first goal was already laughable, but the
>third one really upped the ante...granted, croatian bol
>(Mandzukic?) found the post, pretty much the ultimate spot to
>put that header, so Iker Casillas may have surrendered that
>goal, but the hilarious thing on the slo mo is you see fat jim
>carey there about 3 feet away from the ball. A slow bounce
>would've done him.

Because Given was immense (and in the performance way, not in the size way) for Villa this season. His positioning for the first goal was atrocious, for sure, but Ireland's attempts to clear any Croatian ball were comical.

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228. "RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post"
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I am giving commentary regarding spain only, and not the Euro Cup. I want that to be clear.


How is it that barca/spain have the same freaking issue: Forward crisis.

I can understand Barca having one, because everything is focused on using Messi as a false 9, plus villa is out. ( Villa is Spain's main striker as well, but Spain, as a national team, had/have way more options at the striker position)


Spain knew Torres sucked. That is why they dropped him from the team last year, but to pick him over Soldado for the Euro Cup , and not use him, makes no fucking sense. Spain is using Cesc as a striker for crying out loud.

Spain is trying sell jerseys!...that is all torres is good for, because for some fucking reason I have yet to figure out, torres' jerseys sell like hotcakes! the entire world is still enamored with him ...including Rick Fox...why,rick?.......Torres is wack! cut that shit out,b. it's not a good look.

Espn just went in on that ass:

http://espnfc.com/us/en/news/1094384/fernando-torres%E2%80%99s-downward-spiral-continues-.html


And this dude is now the top striker at a Chelsea, FOH. .....keep fucking with my emotions, roman.,....I'm going to be in zebra prints at the beginning of next season. TRUST!

I'm ready to laugh my ass off next year.

  

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232. "so you're boycotting except for you aren't"
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and the only team you're talking about is spain?

goddamit, this can't get much worse.

spain doesn't have a CF crisis (nor does barca), spain lost to switzerland in the world cup in their first game. tying italy isn't a bad result at all. especially when they played really sloppy.

whatever. please just stick ot a full boycott. don't only watch the team I support.

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270. "RE: so you're boycotting except for you aren't"
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Everything is not an agenda, and my statements were not an attack against Spain, but was more of an attack against Torres.

Yes, I'm boycotting the euros, but I still read the news, and that is what I was going off of. I haven't watched one game.....and that will continue.







  

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271. "Yes, but why?"
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229. "England versus France"
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3 lions versus cocks, red and white versus les blues, shepherds pie versus garlic and baguettes, champagne versus mediocre white wine, bulldogspirit versus cheese eating surrender monkeys,Nasri versus .....erm parker? benzema versus ....erm wellbeck? Rapist (Ribery) versus Racist (terry) this ones for all the chips (or at least 3 points).

In the past my zidane allegiances have led me to support france but now that we're two tournaments seperated from zizou im proudly rocking the white and red in defiance against our joint 4th arch enemy.

Fuck you france!!!

(However, i do have ribery in my fantasy team so "allez les violeur")

  

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231. "In the interests of accuracy ribery isnt a rapist only "
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an adulterer/underage user of prostitutes

  

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249. "statutory rape still has rape in the name, though. . . "
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253. "Dunno if it was really statutory rape though. Consent in France is 15."
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The illegality was prostitution under 18. So you can have sex with a 16-year-old, but you can't pay her for it.

  

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233. "you pansies don't get to claim shepherd's pie"
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also, I was gonna say, how is it rape when you're solicited by a prostitute (not that that makes it much better)

anywayzzz...FUCK Y'ALL. I don't even want to get into the usual fuck your lifestyle shouting match, France is so much superior to England in every regard it's not even funny. Futbol wise, I wouldn't put it past this bleus crew to fuck up in grandiose fashion just yet, so I'm going to tread the pussified route and will wait to see if we win the game then talk my shit.

I will most likely not be able to watch it live, so peace out til much later.

  

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239. "lol i read all of this in capitals except this bit"
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I wouldn't put it past this bleus crew to fuck up
>in grandiose fashion just yet, so I'm going to tread the
>pussified route and will wait to see if we win the game then
>talk my shit.

and shepherds pie is a celebrated english delicacy (though truth be told im not a huge fan,too bland). Having just seen both lineups on tv at the barbers im somewhat more confident in a decent result. What happened to all of france's exciting midfield up and comers the gourcouf's etc?

anyway im gonna puff out my chest and say 3-2 england (benzema double, young, wellbeck and racist header)

  

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240. "stop it fam, shepherd's pie is Scottish"
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and since there is a Scotland team, you don't get to claim it

>Having just seen
>both lineups on tv at the barbers im somewhat more confident
>in a decent result. What happened to all of france's exciting
>midfield up and comers the gourcouf's etc?
>

he's a folk singing, surfing pussy boy so he got canned. Cabaye is much better.

>anyway im gonna puff out my chest and say 3-2 england (benzema
>double, young, wellbeck and racist header)
>

fuck outta here.

  

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234. "rocking the team shirt at work today"
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it's gonna suck having to watch this at work but no way can I avoid the result from texts/emails so I'd rather watch it live

England have been straight comical the way they've jumped from mishap to mishap in the lead up to the tourney, while France are still lacking experience and size. Can't say I'm as confident as I'd like to be but fuck it

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236. "allez les nighttrippeurs"
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242. "God save the queen, motherfuckers. Fuck France."
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Except Gojira. Gojira's awesome.

  

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246. "is there a lot of empty seats or am i looking to hard?"
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why so many empty seats

  

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241. "4-3-3 from England? Eyeing up the French full backs? "
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I like it; Roy going with youth and speed up front and an engine in the midfield. Ox v Evra; Young v Debuchy; Welbeck v Mexes. Basically challenging them to try and keep up with them.





  

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243. "And the number of French attacking mids is mind boggeling"
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Nasri, Cabaye, Malouda, Ribery,

The flanks of this game should be fascinating.

  

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244. "OX!"
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245. "I think lunch today will be for 2H France/England"
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247. "fuck france an all but la marseilleise is the MJ of nat. anthems "
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God save the queen ends on too much of a dour note the french and italian anthems have a bit of pomp and pace to them.

  

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248. "ARGUHUGHAUHUHAGUHUH!!!!!"
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Fuckin' Milner.

  

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250. "I'd switch him and Gerrard"
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Milner is so, so much better from central mid where he can bomb from range.

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251. "France should be disgusted with themselves i havent seen "
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england look this good in years. also what happened to mexes he looks like he's running backwards when up against wellbeck

ooop lescott header and not terry

  

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252. "Welp, that's the worst thing for France"
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now Ribery's going to kick into "hero mode" and dribble away possession like woah.

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254. "well that was fun"
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255. "Ribery: cunt."
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266. "^^^^^^ THIS"
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can't stand that dude
between him and Na$ri, I can't root for the Frenchies

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256. "Milner = not good enough"
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259. "RE: Milner = not a winger"
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257. "2nd half back to shitty england"
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i HATE back to the wall football, have some balls go win the game or lose it but dont settle for draws

  

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258. "Nah, they did what they needed to do."
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Toughest game of the group by far and they took a point. That's how you get out of the group.

  

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262. "I bet you both ukraine and sweden are tougher games"
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i think that france team are somewhat overrated.

  

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267. "Ukraine sucks dude."
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And Ibra is gonna have to beast to get Sweden anywhere.

I understand, respect, and even encourage France hate, but cmon.

  

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260. "Alexi Lalas is such a clown."
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respect the gift.

  

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261. "can't really blame England on this one I guess"
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realistically they were never gonna win w/ a frenzied pace, so I guess having 8 guys back was the best tactic (yuck).
Easily the most boring game so far, possibly will still be true at the end of the tourney. Happy that France showed the gumption to score quickly after giving away the lead on yet ANOTHER set piece goal, but you could tell how tentative they were in the 2 half. I do still want to see Giroud play so he can handle some aerial duties, it's really tough for Benzi to work his magic on his own, especially when the scenario calls for such negative tactics.

oh, and as always, fuck ESPN's commentators and their partisan asses

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263. "the last good French group game"
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was v. England in 04. They've been universally terrible since then

  

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264. "eh"
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we only really played 20 good minutes in that one (although what 20mins...). Compared to games played since, today's was a Titian masterpiece. Really tough to establish offense when there's a giant vortex against you, although it doesn't excuse that we should've still won.
Interested to watch Sweden next to see what we're up against

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275. "i wasn't really talking about quality of team performance"
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just quality of entertainment—and part of that, of course, is based on how the other team plays. France-Swiss 06, France-Romania 08, France-Uruguay 10... some of the most soul-crushingly tedious and dull soccer matches I've ever watched. tonight's second half was pretty close.

  

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277. "OMG France-Romania '08"
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I'm having cold chills just thinking about that one. I'm not going to argue that we've been scintillating during the group stages these past years, or even good, but today there was clearly more of an effort on France's part to put the ball into play. Negative football is negative football. Yes it does work a lot of times, but for commentators to extoll England for it when they're the first to jump on teams like Greece was laughable.
England recognized their shortcomings early on and were content playing an ultra-defensive game (not unlike Chelsea in the CL), and Blanc messed up IMO by not having Giroud in near the end to try some headers. And wtf was up with putting Martin in at the end, that was a perfect spot to get a dynamic player like Menez on and try to make something happen.

Anyway the real story today was Sheva rising from the dead and putting the group on notice. Sweden didn't really impress me, which is a plus I suppose.

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268. "oh and Alou Diarra actually played a good game, I'm still in shock"
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coulda pushed back on Lescott's goal I guess but otherwise some nice passing, and recovered plenty of balls (ummm...)

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269. "Still think Blanc should have gone with M'Vila"
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That goal allowed was atrocious, plus I think M'Vila's athleticism would have helped curb some of those ridiculous breaks England kept getting

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279. "M'Vila has barely recovered from his ankle"
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I would expect him to be back next game...but then again, Diarra provides more toughness, and that was needed today.

  

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281. "meh, fuck these brown teeth having, meat boiling, diving ass hoes"
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Ireland and England were the two most cynical, diving sides in the tournament so far. Italian coaches, I guess.

the most satisfying part of the evening was Nasri's goal coming at the height of the hating from the ESPN broadcast. Other than that, absolutely dreadful game to watch. Mainly because of the way England chose to play, but we could have done better.

Blanc waited much too long to sub people in and yes, should've brought in Giroud.

  

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265. "Rosenberg gets the start ahead of Elmander? Iiiiiiiiinteresting."
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272. "Based on the defending, this match should be 8-8."
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Based on the attacking, it's nil-nil.

This game is like a dying star collapsing in on itself.

  

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273. "Called Sheva, post #37, taking credit, lmao"
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276. "haha I thought that when he scored the second one"
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274. "Wow."
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Ukraine v Sweden just overtook Spain v Italy as the match of the tournament thus far. Who would've thought?

  

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278. "Fuck all the hate, I thought RIBS was pretty good tonight"
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In control, playing te general role well, unselfish, and a refreshingly hi work rate.

  

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280. "nah, he was average tonight"
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he did bring pace (and he might have been the only one), did work hard (as he usually does), but he was wasteful and never decisive. If he's going to be holding the ball as much as this, he's gotta make something happen.

I'm really starting to hate Nasri (his shush sign was for the french journalists, believe it or not, because and I quote "they're too mean"...what kinda cunty, prepubescent ass move is that), but he played a better game than Ribery tonight.

  

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283. "Nasri's a punk"
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but he plays better with that edge, so fuck it

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282. "also"
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why is ol' boy from the Full Monty playing center back for England? and scoring goals, too?

  

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284. "Czech aren't messing around (also the Greek D sucks)"
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2-0 after 5mins isn't a bad way to start a game. Bootleg soccer Jesus is gonna have to step up big time

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285. "Unlike 1939, the Poles are resisting Russian advances."
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287. "the fuck are you talking about?"
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Russia invaded Poland in 1939? aroo?

please tell me you're not involved in teaching history in any way, shape or form

  

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288. "RE: the fuck are you talking about?"
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https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=soviet+invasion+poland+1939&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest

Edit: I should say that my own knowledge of these events comes from plowing through Shirer's classic "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," specifically the section entitled, "The Russians Invade Poland" (p. 626 in my edition). Shall I quote some relevant passages, or do you think you can handle it from here?

  

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289. "oops. my bad."
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I did know about this too, but for some illogical reason I thought it all happened later. I really need to curb my thc intake.

  

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294. "smh"
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"please tell me you're not involved in teaching history in any way, shape or form"

  

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295. "like I said, my bad, total brain fart"
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what can I say, I had a really rough day and needed to talk some shit to *somebody*. L-ski all around.

  

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286. "Keller's pronunciation of Russian names is fucking embarrassing."
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290. "http://cadfael.tv/image/src/1339445461472.gif"
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This kid was the one of the best parts of this tournament so far.

http://cadfael.tv/image/src/1339445461472.gif

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291. "awesome"
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this one caused some hearty laughter in the bar where I watched Eng v Fra

http://h9.abload.de/img/untitled-3r9xxf.gif

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292. "can't really blame him, that game was more potent than nyquil"
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299. "true. Also just a hunch but pastis "might" have been a reason too"
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btw was that an Iraqi flag behind him? Chuckled a bit when the image came up cause it reminded me of the lame flag controversy after Hollande got elected

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296. "I loved the commentator going, he's just resting his eyes"
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293. "NEWS: Russians/Poles hate each other, Antonio Cassano is an idiot"
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and water is wet.


  

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297. "So why will expansion be such a bad thing?"
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6 groups instead of 4 groups, maybe we get 1 more game per day.

Qualification reduced somewhat, which would probably be a good thing

I get the cash grab that it will be, and the history but I'm not seeing the negatives, I'd like to see Turkey and Belgium and few other squads here-- although I will say this field is the most complete out of any of the more recent tournaments

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298. "I think it's perfect as it is"
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I like that the Euro is a tough mf to get into. Allowing more teams can only dilute the quality, which though OK so far, hasn't exactly been awe-inspiring, though it's not unexpected when it comes to 1st games.

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300. "Separated at birth:"
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http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Pepe+Real+Madrid+Training+Press+Conference+zbCl7_NoQVzl.jpg

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080519135510/uncyclopedia/images/archive/8/8d/20081210171539!Gollum.jpg

  

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301. "Also:"
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>http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Pepe+Real+Madrid+Training+Press+Conference+zbCl7_NoQVzl.jpg
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>http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080519135510/uncyclopedia/images/archive/8/8d/20081210171539!Gollum.jpg

http://m1.tv2sport.dk/sites/default/files/styles/640x360/public/HelderPostigaPress.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01381/davidTennant_1381584c.jpg

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303. "Veloso and Pique as well"
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http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5ggbzY8HM1qdxb27o4_500.jpg

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/PA-7964700.jpg

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302. "great game so far (especially that Danish goal)"
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304. "lol@Cristiano"
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305. "it's fry time"
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306. "My god, any of us on this board could have put that away."
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On a related note, in international competition, with everything to play for, do you want CR7 or Niklas Bendtner?

  

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317. "I'm not going to be reactionary and will pick Ronaldo"
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in spite of his astonishingly punchable face and ways

  

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348. "Ahem, WC 2006 "
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He got that squad to the semis by himself. I mean yes it was 6 yrs ago, but let's not pretend like it never happened

  

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307. "It doesn't get any easier, does it?"
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Almost too easy. Now they will probably not advance because of that missed goal.

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308. "Pretty shocking....2 guilt edged chances and dragged both wide"
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wow

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<--The drought is over

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404. "The fans were chanting "Messi" at him, again!"
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LMAO

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309. "WOWOWOWOWwowowowowowow"
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310. "wow"
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311. "Varela..what a fucking cold blooded strike. Absolute power"
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312. "That was golden. (n/m)"
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You're such pests...now, what is it you want? In your depths of your ignorance, what is it you want? Well, whatever it is you want, I can't deliver because I just don't see it. - Orson Welles


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313. "he (and Bento) just saved Cristiano from a monumental L"
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best game so far, too, even though I was pulling for the Danes.

  

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314. "Nicky Pink Boots is such an asshole"
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that's all

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315. "In other news, who knew the White Stripes were so popular in Europe."
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You're such pests...now, what is it you want? In your depths of your ignorance, what is it you want? Well, whatever it is you want, I can't deliver because I just don't see it. - Orson Welles


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316. "they're popular with annoying copycat futbol fans, mostly"
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it's just that song, too. Italians started this bullshit.

  

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321. "Well, in all fairness...Seven Nation Army is a great record"
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But I didn't know it had this kind of following.

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318. "not very likely based on the 1st games, but if the Dutch beat the 'shaft"
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it's going to be a massive clusterfuck

  

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319. "considering how the 2d games have gone I almost expect the dutch to win"
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320. "what the fuck was Poulsen doing on that goal?"
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he's gotta block that shot, he got so small that all he was doing is basically just shielding keeper.

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322. "lol @ squeezing in talk of the USA into the broadcast"
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323. "Mannschaft ain't playing around"
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the rest of the field is now officially on notice

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324. "Dutch have no answers. This looks like abuse."
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325. "Gulp."
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If Van Persie starts the 2nd half I'm turning off the tv

  

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326. "Defense is terrible"
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RVP and Robben not doing shit.

Put Dirk back there!

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336. "RvP not doing sh't?"
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342. "Nice goal. Terrible tournament. "
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327. "Germany is taking the whole pot"
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World Cup too

  

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330. "false, netherlands sucks. proper finishing dutch win 4-2"
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328. "kinda funny how the match died down after the Dutch goal"
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it's almost like it didn't matter and the Dutch were resigned to their fate

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337. "it was curious"
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the lack of urgency from the Dutch. They didn't seem bothered. Hardly chased the ball. Very anti-climatic ending.

  

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349. "It really was, Wesley, rvp and huntelarr were only ones pressed"
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329. "I'm confused....+"
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Why aren't the Dutch eliminated?

Isn't the first tie-breaker the winner of the head-to-head match?

  

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332. "That's 2nd tie breaker; first is goal difference"
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They sit at -2; Denmark is 0.

If Holland win 2-0, say, and Denmark lose 1-0, then Holland goes through with a goal difference of 0 to Denmark's -1 and portugal's -2.

  

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333. "It's actually entirely possible."
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Hmmm...All we need is a German win and a two goal win over Portugal.

  

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338. "no, head-to-head is first tiebreaker"
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339. "But can't be if 3 teams tied...."
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340. "it's basically head-to-head"
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you essentially create a mini-group of the teams that are tied and see who has the most points in head-to-head matches among those teams

  

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341. "goal differential first though"
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344. "no, head-to-head is first tiebreaker"
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http://www.uefa.com/uefa/management/newsid=1800152.html

  

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346. "that's weird"
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347. "That's opposite of qualification. I stand corrected. "
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350. "it's been like that in finals for a while, I wanna say"
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in CL group stage, too
I like it better myself.

  

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352. "it's weird too because World Cup tiebreaker is GD"
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UEFA went rogue on that one.

  

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331. "Group of Death final day scenarios"
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Team W L D PTS GD
Ger 2 0 0 6 2
Port 1 1 0 3 0
Den 1 1 0 3 0
Net 0 2 0 0 -2




So, Germany is through with as good as a draw, which knocks the Netherlands out.
Portugal would then need only a draw to go through, as they have the better head-to-head (which is the next tie breaker, I believe) than Denmark.

For Denmark to go through, they need a draw or better and a Netherlands win or better.

Germany could still be out with a loss and a Portugal win.

The Netherlands are, basically, shit fucked unless Germany actually turns up.

  

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334. "Here's the tie-breaking criteria"
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Tie-breaking criteria
If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied to determine the rankings:

1.higher number of points obtained in the matches among the teams in question;
2.superior goal difference in the matches among the teams in question (if more than two teams finish equal on points);
3.higher number of goals scored in the matches among the teams in question (if more than two teams finish equal on points);
4.superior goal difference in all the group matches;
5.higher number of goals scored in all the group matches;
6.position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system;
7.fair play conduct of the teams (final tournament);
8.drawing of lots.
If two teams which have the same number of points, the same number of goals scored and conceded play their last group match against each other and are still equal at the end of that match, the ranking of the two teams in question is determined by a penalty shootout, provided no other teams within the group have the same number of points on completion of all group matches.

Note: As all teams have a different UEFA national team coefficient, the last two tie-breakers (i.e. fair play conduct and drawing of lots) will never be applied in this tournament.

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335. "I came to sports to say: fuck our national team."
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Most expensive team in the tournament, and this is the kind of football we get?

Fuck me.

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343. "i wish this Torres storyline would die"
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i mean he's not scoring like he was
but he's still causing the defense problems and setting up goals
if you're a forward or attacking mid for spain and you see torres get the ball, you may wanna get in the box.

  

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345. "people see what they want to see"
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Torres played well in the first match

  

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351. "so...Germany found themselves a new Beckhenbauer type?"
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w/young Hummels?

fuck me. like they needed that too.

  

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353. "Supposedly Torres looked good in training"
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perfect match for a start.

  

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354. "Best German side I've seen in years to be honest"
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German teams were always know for their efficiency and discipline, this current team has that plus insane fluidity.

They're gonna be hard to beat.

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355. "IMO they "looked" better in 08 and 10"
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but this year's squad has that efficiency factor...which probably means they're winning the whole thing

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356. "PIRLO"
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357. "Ita v Croa is pretty great so far"
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who knew Italy would be involved in some of the most entertaining games of the tourney so far?

and Pirlo is god, basically

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358. "Italy looks fantastic."
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360. "What's the Italian for "Football, bloody hell?""
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359. "Group A has been surprisingly entertaining, too."
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I was expecting a grip of nil-nils from there.

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361. "Croatia aggressive, paid off...terrible marking by Chiellini"
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Modric came out looking far more aggressive and it has forced Pirlo to stay in deeper....Italy had a couple nice chances started by Balotelli but couldn't finish. Chiellini got a bit lost on that cross and it results in that tying goal.

Italy finally looking to get a bit more possession now and go forward.

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362. "These stadiums are gorgeous though, damn"
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363. ""SUCK IT" - Torres"
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364. "good finish"
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bad keeping

  

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366. "Cmon Given had no chance there. No keeper in the world would have "
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great strike from Torres. Give the man his due

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365. "Spain's gonna put 5 on 'em"
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This ain't a gulf in class. It's a fucking ocean.

  

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368. "that's not really how they roll"
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369. "It's not really like they took their foot off the gas."
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Ireland just started defending semi-competently.

  

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367. "I think UEFA/FIFA needs to do something about boot colors."
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It's gone too far. Hot peach and chartreuse shouldn't appear anywhere, ever.

  

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371. "lol, random"
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370. "Torres needs to say, fuck all this passing. I'm shooting every touch."
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Just launch it from everywhere.

  

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372. "Lol how did that squeak through?"
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373. "cheeky"
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374. "David Silva is the only spaniard I really fucks with"
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Just seems real likable

  

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375. "cue all_stah in 5..4..3.."
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376. "BOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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377. "Dammit Fabregas"
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That was a crazy shot...

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378. "as always, props to the Irish fans"
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it might be because they don't expect much, but they always show up, and they support their team to the end. They've been singing for a good 10mins now, and I'll admit I got some goosebumps out of it

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379. "The Fields of Athenry"
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Wouldn't be Irish if it weren't a miserable beating given a melancholic soundtrack.

  

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380. "yup"
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one of my fave sports memories is doing shots w/ a bunch of Irish fans in a London pub seconds after we beat them in rugby on a last-second drive.
Apparently a lot of the Spanish fans joined in on the singing tonight (probably easier when your team is crushing it), that's pretty cool

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381. "great soundtrack"
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I'd have a hard time singing after that beating

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382. "The irony that the Italians invented the "biscotto"...oh boy..."
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The Croatia/Spain game may be the most dead of dead rubbers. Ever. Spain get to 1) Knock out the stronger competition of Italy and 2)Go through 1st, which Croatia won't mind if England or France qualify second to Ukraine in D.


  

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387. "not sure I follow you...you gotta be two to tango"
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all Italy needs to do is beat Ireland by 2+. Given how weak this Ireland team is, it's not that remote a possibility...so Croatia would be stupid to play the draw, imo.

  

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401. "Not if it's a 2-2, or higher, draw"
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Swipe from Sid Lowe with the explanation:

"European Championship rules state that in the event of a tie, goal difference then goals scored separates the teams – but only between those teams that are level on points. In other words, if there was a 2-2 draw between Spain and Croatia, it would not matter how many Italy beat Ireland by. Spain and Croatia face each other each knowing that, should Italy win, a defeat would send them out. Meanwhile, if Croatia and Spain draw and Italy win, all three teams will be on five points. And then goal difference between the three sides would become the first criteria.

A 0-0 draw between the two would send Italy through with the other team to be decided by overall goal difference (Spain going through, having beaten Ireland by more goals than Croatia managed); a 1-1 draw would create a three-way head-to-head goal difference tie meaning that overall goal difference would be decisive and again making the scorelines against Ireland the key; and a 2-2 draw or higher would put Croatia and Spain through, sending Italy out"


So it doesn't matter, in the end, how many goals everyone put past sorry Ireland, those games don't go into consideration. Because Italy's games were both 1-1s, if it's a three-way tie on points, the number of goals scored between the tied teams is what matters. Italy can't improve on only 2 goals between the games, but Spain and Croatia can.

  

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425. "ah word. thanks."
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I got side tracked doing the computations in my head.

  

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383. "RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post"
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torres puts up 2 against Ireland?

you don't say.

Ireland is to the euro as Leicester City is to FA.


continue on watching the games, lad...while racist shit goes on in the background.


i'm audi.

  

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384. "was this game not on ESPN or something?"
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or did i just completely miss it?

  

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385. "RE: was this game not on ESPN or something?"
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I couldn't tell you...I'm not watching it. I just read the news, and watch how people continue to be fooled by Torres.

  

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386. "it was"
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388. "France's lineup"
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Lloris, Debuchy, Rami, Mexes, Clichy, Cabaye, Diarra, Ribery, Nasri, Menez, Benzema

despite rumors no M'Villa, and still no Giroud. Fack

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389. "we knew he wasn't going to play Giroud, he doesn't like the 4-4-2"
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the surprise is Menez for Malouda, I thought he was going to play Martin. Since Menez is not that kind of player, I'm curious to see who's going to track back to handle the ball the most between Ribery or Nasri (I would prefer Nasri with Ribery keeping his energy to give that burst we need up front).

  

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392. "I'm surprised Menez is starting actually"
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that "energy player off the bench" role fits him to a tee on this squad

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397. "This attack is looking worlds better with Menez in the starting lineup"
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He actually provides width which is freeing up Nasri to do his thing in the middle and Ribery is looking like he did back at Marseille. The defense is maddeningly shaky however, I don't know if Diarra isn't a good shield or if Mexes just sucks. Clichy for Evra was also a needed move.

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390. "Can we get a Part II post going at some point?"
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This one is getting pretty unwieldy.

  

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391. "maybe save it till Group A - Match 3? we can track elimination..."
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400. "Makes sense."
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393. "wow match suspended"
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I was actually about to post about how bad the weather looked

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394. "words of wisdom by Michael Ballack"
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"it's different between a home game and an away game"

Even by footballer "pundit" standards Ballack is setting new records. He's like the Messi of platitudes

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395. "That said, he's still leagues better than Lalas"
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I was half expecting him to put a German Terminator-style fist through Alexi's chest after England-France when Lalas was on that "there's BEAUTY in parking the bus!" shit.

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398. "basically"
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396. "OX benched?!?!?! weak sauce"
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399. "If this match stays even, suddenly this group gets real interesting."
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402. "Smashing header"
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403. "yep"
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as much as I've made fun of Carroll that was a pretty stellar header

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405. "You heard it here first: Andy Carroll is gonna get a hat trick today."
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Unless, of course, he doesn't.

  

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406. "this is late but i'm gonna forget otherwise"
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http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5ntz24sKk1r2xls3o1_500.jpg

  

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407. "hat trick my ass"
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408. "Christ almighty, Glen Johnson over Micah Richards, roy? "
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409. "Walcott?!"
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wow

  

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410. "FINISH THEM, BIG ANDY!"
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411. "DANNY BOY"
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413. "That was awesome."
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412. "so who's sitting for Rooney v. Ukraine?"
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Carroll and Welbeck both scored and played very well today.

  

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414. "Johnson. They're going 3-4-3. Damn the torpedos!"
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415. "Carroll; Welbeck, Young and Rooney play very well together"
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418. "it'd be harsh on Carroll though"
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He played awesome today

  

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416. "well this was fun"
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sweden deserved nothing from this game so, alls fair and that. Glen johnson is jank tho

  

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417. "RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post"
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and what did i say about carroll?

mhmm.

go back to the euro lineup thread.


too bad i didn't see any of that shit ...glad my predictions are coming to fruition about england.


smut, again, andy is going to beast next year....something happened to him during the fa cup final ...I saw it!.....drogs passed him the torch.


england might make me break my boycott .....three lions!!!!!!

  

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419. "Woy really is the perfect manager for England."
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An English manager with so much experience outside of England. He's tactically brilliant and just about all the teams he's managed have punched above their weight.

  

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420. "well that's more like it"
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-Menez really impressed me. He was on his way to a pretty awful outing after missing those early chances, and in fact probably should have got his second yellow before the 2d half (proving that you can always count on him to do something dumb once per game), but he kept at it and finally broke the camel's back with that goal. He brings a lot of presence in the box which is huge

-Rami still makes me incredibly nervous, maybe even more than Mexes. I wouldn't mind seeing Koscielny in there, although I don't expect to

-A lot of good positive performances today, guys just doing work without fuss or muss: Ribery, Diarra (fucking Diarra!!!) and Clichy showing why he's a much better pick than Evra. Benzema created a lot, which gets forgotten a lot in most of the criticism he gets. I think he assisted on those two goals.

Only a nightmare scenario would keep us out of the quarters, but there is a possibility so I won't crow just yet. Mostly I want to see the team keep at it, and see some variation of this squad with maybe a tinker or two (Martin/Giroud starting?).

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426. "both teams played hard, my man"
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- truth is, if Lloris doesn't make that world class save vs Sheva, we may give up a 3 spot in this game. But Ukraine is not a good possession team, so once we got up, we made it look easy.

- 100% co-sign regarding Menez. I was getting ready to post that he lost the game for us after the first half (just had a really bad feeling at that point). Not only did he miss chances, he stole a made goal from Benzema on one of them, that was unforgivable. Until he scored, that is. Overall, that's just who he is, a volume player, he's going to waste a lot, but he's got such a motor and he's such a bamma, he's going to keep trying and end up making something happen.

- re:the defense...people wanna rag on Mexes, and ok, he had that dumb ass pass to Lloris before the interruption, but staying mad at that is missing the forest for the trees; he had an outstanding game otherwise. He didn't miss one pass forward, always putting us on the right track. He was also a miraculous save away from scoring a superb header. As a side note, his reaction after that was my favorite moment of the game until the scores ("TA MERE LA PUTE", one of my all time favorite curse phrase). Rami on the other hand is shitty at moving/passing forward and turning the ball over in his half like he does puts a lot of pressure on a team. He kinda made up for it w/great defense towards the end, but at that point, Sheva was gassed out so it was easier. Clichy was great, I don't want to see Evra ever again in this tournament.

- Our midfield was outstanding in general. You mentioned Diarra, and he was beasting, no doubt, but what about Cabaye? My man toiled and toiled until he got a sliver of light, at which point he scored. LIKE A BOSS. Then he missed the goal of the tournament by a hair. That passing sequence was breath taking. Ribery was top shelf, he's much better when he stays up top creating havoc instead of tracking back (which he kept doing in the first game because he apparently has no respect for Malouda). I would give player of the game to Benzi, though...plenty of great runs, always unselfish, not missing anything easy, but more importantly two picture perfect passes, he made the difference.

- Blanc is not going to start Giroud when the qualification is not secured yet, you can forget that. Myself, I would like to see Ben Harfa instead of Nasri (who was quite underwhelming again tonight).

- Finally, can't help but notice...lots of pretty Ukrainian ladies in the stands.

great game of futbol, made up for that snoozer vs England

  

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429. "you're damn right"
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>- truth is, if Lloris doesn't make that world class save vs
>Sheva, we may give up a 3 spot in this game. But Ukraine is
>not a good possession team, so once we got up, we made it look
>easy.

I was thinking about this last night, that save was absolutely clutch. Lloris hasn't yet proven himself on the international stage, this tournament could be that chance.

And yeah, Cabaye did have a huge game, the goal he scored was very much a striker's goal IMO. He's got good instincts, that dude.

What I liked also was how much we dominated after going up 2-0. The team was just clicking at that point and you could Ukraine couldn't find any answers.

I can't tell if Le Prez is going to go with his "best squad" and minimize turnover for the last game, so that we can try for the 1-spot, but I have a hunch he will. I'm not that impressed with Spain so far (I mean, come on, Ireland...) but they're still Spain and I wouldn't mind avoiding that terrifying midfield as long as possible.

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421. "Andy!"
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422. "RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post"
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the white drogba. I just saw the highlights. What a fine cross into the box for the headbanger(c) EPMD

Theo Wolcott looks healthy. I thought that injury he suffered against Chelsea was going to keep him down for awhile. He froze the goalie like Heroin up the nose.

I really don't how players played as a whole, but from what I read, that backline was atrocious. Cahill is really good on set pieces, and England is definitely missing him.


Now one crosses like the english, except for ronaldinho!


I roll with lions, son!..

continue to keep me posted, gents


  

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423. "Moment of the tournament thus far (youtube)"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmCosY56lRI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5sIeuX94Pc

  

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424. "Didn't catch it until that second video"
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at 1:19 or so, the stadium announcer trying to say "please stop singing"...fuck off. That's whats wrong with this tournament in a nutshell: Authentic atmosphere? SHUTUP! More 7 Nation Army!

  

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427. "RE: Didn't catch it until that second video"
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Was that coming from UEFA, or did the Stadium announcer do it because he was annoyed by it, or did some fans complain about the singing?


I would rather listen to that instead of listening to the horrific buzzing of a million Vuvuzelas inside of a stadium.


  

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428. "Yah....much respect for that."
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Ireland always makes these tournaments better.

  

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430. "Selasse would be a good pick up for a big league club"
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Would love to see Arsenal make a move, pretty sure we could afford him... Though I may be assuming too much

  

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440. "he's not better than Sagna"
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and looks too lightweight for England anyway

  

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431. "Good. Poland and Russia are soft as shit"
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Polnd didn't show up for a single 2nd half. Russia didn't do shit today

  

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432. "wow congrats Greece"
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they played so much better than the first 2 games it was almost like a different team out there. Focused on D, and when even freaking Samaras is actually showing up you know you have a shot

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434. "This is fun! I gotta get my PIP game up though"
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Not switching back and forth Buick enough


CR7 is showing up today, I think he'll finish with 2-3 with that slow ass holland D

  

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486. "two separate espn3 windows = that shit"
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435. "Group B finales "
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Germany is through but that 2nd spot is seemingly changing by the minute.

Portugal vs Netherlands is ridiculously open. Van Der Vaart was given an inexplicable amount of space and curled in an absolute beauty for the lead. Netherland's D has looked so shaky all night, and finally just gave one up...easily could have been the 3rd or 4th. I'll be shocked if there aren't 2-3 more goal in this game.

Germany (Podolski) opened vs Denmark but Denmark just leveled.

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436. "van der wiel's price tag just got slashed in half"
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437. "Black unis in. Soccer is some unnatural shit"
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How long ago did they change the ref uni from all black to these neon colors? Not that long ago, right?

Just cuz you can now wer black doesn't mean you have to, England and holland.

  

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438. "Germany is looking good... 2-1 win over Denmark"
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It ain't easy... but it sho' is fun

  

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439. "Well, the group of death was some crazy shit"
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I thought Denmark showed well.

Agger was excellent this whole season, even if he has tattoos on the inside of his hand.

CR7 showed up eventually.

Dutch D was terrible.

Van Persie wasn't getting used right or something.

VDV should've playing the whole time.

Germany is Germany.

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441. "that dutch team was awful"
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they looked like that had no clue. one thing to fail out of the group of death, but none of them looked like they had a clue where to be or how to defend. I saw two or three guys all standing around 5-10 yards from the ball arguing about who was supposed to make a run 5-10 times that game. shockingly poor for a team with so many "creative" players.

just an awful team. the coach needs to be gone and housecleaning is in order.
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442. "I don't know..."
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I'd suggest they actually had the edge over Germany. Definitely Denmark.

The only clearly bad game they played was against Portugal.

  

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444. "the edge over Germany?"
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Surely you jest.

  

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446. "the game vs. denmark was the only one i missed"
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germany beat the hell out of the dutch. and portugal ran that game...particularly shocking considering the dutch scored early on what seemed like a relatively harmless attack. should have given them more of a boost.

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466. "Denmark deserved that win."
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They shut down Netherlands completely.

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443. "How bad was that Dutch defense all group long?"
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And all that was missing from 2010 was GvB?

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445. "also, van bommel went from savvy vet"
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to cranky old guy.

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447. "Odds Spain/Croatia ends 2-2?"
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Intrigue abounds.

  

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448. "Ireland look so hesitant about everything"
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they really dont have anything to lose
what gives?

  

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449. "Do the Spanish regard shooting the ball as some sort of failure?"
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454. "too much of a risk, the other team may get the ball"
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450. "Ballotelli"
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holy fuck
damn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HSmWl81pmU0#t=53s

  

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451. "Balotelli is KANG!"
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Cause I'm doing better now, don't mean I never lost shit/ I was married to a state of mind and I divorced it -- Black Thought

  

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452. "^^"
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453. "BALO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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First time I've ever rooted for Italy

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459. "the focus on his face on the replay"
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unbelievable goal

  

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455. "lol @ the ESPN guys on the Spanish goal"
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no mention whatsoever of any offside, or that dude controlled the ball with his shoulder. And the no-call for a penalty just before against Croatia.
Kinda weird that Croatia lost their urgency after that, I think a 1-1 draw would've still put them through

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456. "croatia was fouling spain in the box on every corner, too"
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>And the no-call for a penalty just
>before against Croatia.

  

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457. "no reason to mention offsides because no one was offsides"
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u seem mad. why?

ugly game. del bosque's lineups are frustrating. silva and iniesta are too similar and both want to cut inside. got too narrow again, and using both busquets and xabi alonso is overkill and busquets has been a step off his game all tourney.

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458. "I thought it was very close"
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Like many things football the offside call was subject to interpretation, but to say Navas' position on the initial pass doesn't matter since he scored on the "second phase" (when he was definitely onside) shows the rule is absurd IMO. And Iniesta's shoulder was definitely active on his reception of Cesc's (beautiful) lob. A quick comment would've been nice, but I guess it's easier for the ESPN drones to just say that Spain deserve it and how tough it is for Croatia. At least they didn't mention video replay, that's a plus I guess.

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460. "100% agree"
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that new rule on the offside has always been dumb
unless the guys is actually moving backwards to get back in position, offside should be called

  

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461. "Italy looks really good to me. fuck. "
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462. "I'll admit that's been gnawing at me a little bit"
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let's just focus on tomorrow I guess. Would still rather take my chances against them (they do have wide patches of inconsistencies) than the Spanish midfield armada

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465. "it was close, but it was onside"
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and the new vs. old rule is something 98% of espn's viewers don't know and 99% of espn's analysts probably don't know either. according to the new rule, he was definitely onsides.

besides, when has espn ever done well with regard to analyzing anything, let alone soccer? lol.

i don't know about your claim about iniesta's shoulder. i can't find a replay that isn't so far out as to be useless. but why would you expect espn to cast doubt on one of the star teams' advances? and considering the more blatant fouls and penalties that have been missed by refs (the elbow to pique in the box often gets a yellow on random headers, let alone goal scoring chances, for example. And I'm sure a croatia fan has similar examples), the fact that they got both onsides right was, for once, a good job.

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463. "De Rossi > Homosapien"
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Damn him for never leaving Rome.

  

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475. "God bless him, you mean"
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But yeah, it's amazing what he's capable when he plays in his actual position. So tired of every fucking manager he plays for trying to get cute and move him out of his natural position at CDM (a position he plays better than just about everyone else in the world). I really like what Prandelli's done with the Azzuri, but DDR as a CB is just not a good look

  

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464. "RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post"
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Boycott removed. England is must see. Gotta support the brothers.

I think Theo Wolcott would make a fine striker, so If RVP leaves , I dont think it would it be a bad idea to slide Theo into the 9 spot, and have Podolski play as a 7. He's more of a winger anyway.

Major Point: England has to improve their defense on set pieces.

  

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467. "welcome back, everyone missed you"
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468. "RE: welcome back, everyone missed you"
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what do you think about theo as a striker?...
dude has a fine, strong touch.

  

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469. "Not very physical, doesn't play to his strengths."
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Walcott = speed. Seems sensible to keep him out on the wing.

  

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470. "isn't he best suited to a bench role?"
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I thought he was great when he came on against Sweden. Not sure it would be wise to have him on the pitch for the whole game though, he kinda has that James Harden vibe as the super-sub IMO.

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471. "He and the OX have similar games."
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They are best moving from the outside in.

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474. "RE: isn't he best suited to a bench role?"
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Bench role for england?....I can see that, but not for Arsenal. He is one of their main pieces, him and gervinho do major damage as starting wingers.


command, speed, great dribbling skills, fine touch, and he is still a youngin .....


Him and Sturridge will own any left back in the world on that right side.

I love that dude...that future english team is going to be sick

  

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472. "UEFA is completely fucked"
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bendtner wears unsponsored underwear and shows them = €100k
croatian fans racially abuse balotelli in the group match = €80k

just pathetic.

  

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473. "RE: UEFA is completely fucked"
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Disgusting.

And people were wondering why I was boycotting Euro 2012.....

  

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476. "RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post"
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GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!!!!!!!!!

  

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477. "RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post"
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That backline is horrendous....better off going with baines at right bacl, and milner is not tracking back.

I know he wants to save Theo for the second half, but Milner is trash.

  

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478. "What exactly is England's strategy here?"
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479. "RE: What exactly is England's strategy here?"
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Slow in the first 45, then speed it up in last 45.

Also rooney is rusty, and he should have scored on that header.


The pace will be much faster when carroll and wolcott are subbed in

  

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480. "RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post"
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parker=trash
milner=trash
lescot=trash

fuckers are too slow, and milner can't get pass the back ....

this is why sturridge should have been on the team



  

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481. "RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post"
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Roy has lost his fucking mind. No way in hell will England win playing this slow. Most of the teams in the tourney are playing with blazing speed,so england's fastest lineup needs to be out on the pitch.

Also, Rooney should not have started. He is totally out of sync, and I think it is messing with England's chemistry. Hopefully, he can shake it off in the second 45

Everyone gets a F, because no one is playing well.

No defense in the middle, and the right side sucks. ..

lack of having a playmaker is really hurting this team

  

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482. "RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post"
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Yes!!!

Much better!

Rooney listened to my post!!!!!!!!!!!!


ENGLAND!!!

better 45!!

  

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483. "Holy shit Zlatan"
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484. "welp, that was a goal."
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after an offsides, so man did the refs get lucky that they screwed up twice.

WTF is the point of the extra ref if they can't get that right?
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485. "RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post"
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That's for being a racist as country, Ukraine!!

No goal for you!!

  

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all stah
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487. "RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post"
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This team needs a playmaker like america needs a new economy!

they are too dry in the middle, just dull and boring.






  

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488. "lol @ England winning this group."
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all stah
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490. "RE: lol @ England winning this group."
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Lions>>>>>Eagles

  

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all stah
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491. "RE: lol @ England winning this group."
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Lions>>>>>Eagles

  

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492. "indeed"
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absolutely putrid game from les bleus today
Lloris is the only one that came to play

big L for Ben Harfa in particular...that was his shot to make a mark and he flunked it badly. Also Blanc needs to come off this '4-4-2 is an outdated concept in modern football' nonsense and play Giroud and Benzema together.

  

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494. "Christian Wilhelmsson was styling on y'all, man."
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CHRISTIAN WILHELMSSON.

I was pretty optimistic about the Rami/Mexes pairing, but those two just aren't gonna get it done. Rami in particular was really, really bad today, just some unbelievably bad mental lapses.

  

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495. "Rami has been doo-doo juice this whole tourney"
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I hear he's doing well at Valencia, which is really hard to believe considering what I see from him on the national squad

At least Koscielny finally gets his shot next game

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496. "word"
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>At least Koscielny finally gets his shot next game

too bad it's gonna be w/Rami and not Mexes

  

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498. "Gotdamn that was ugly. Still hoping they pull off the miracle next game"
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>big L for Ben Harfa in particular...that was his shot to make
>a mark and he flunked it badly. Also Blanc needs to come off
>this '4-4-2 is an outdated concept in modern football'
>nonsense and play Giroud and Benzema together.


LOL, I can't help but feel like Blanc was on some, "yall really want this, fine I'll show you why BA don't start, here have at it" on some spiteful "now will you shut up with this Ben Arfa shit?"


I agree though, Benzema is perfect as the playmaking striker along with another aggressive shot maker. No reason why Nasri cant go out wide, instead of playing centrally opposite Ribs.

  

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489. "RE: The OFFICIAL Euro 2012 Post"
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I'll take the win, even though Ukraine played better.

England didn't look good at all to me. Didn't really get any offense going, and was atrocious on defense, especially along the right side.


Rooney's pace was a bit slow. I know he scored a goal, but that was because the goalie made a blunder......


England against Italy.....Italy appears to be the better side, and they play with speed.

After watching today's game, no way should Milner start in the next game . Roy has to start Wolcott.

I'm out!

  

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493. "mwahahaha wtf was that"
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absolutely horrendous "effort" from most of les bleus today, with Nasri out front as usual. Dare I say without Lloris (who's having a good Euro) the final result would've looked a lot more embarassing. Sweden aren't anything to scoff at, and that goal by Zlatan was a corker, but when we play so listlessly I think even Ireland would give us headaches.
On the plus side Mexes is out for next game, so there's always that. Also the press are gonna hammer the team nonstop, which has actually worked in favor of the team in the past. In fact the similarities with 2006 are a little eerie, but at this point I need to keep my hopes down. I can already tell Blanc's not gonna start Giroud with Benzema next game, and that's gonna piss me off.

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497. "without Lloris we're taking 5 in the face."
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plain and simple

the England game was definitely a turd, but this was a whole other level of embarrassing. Before this game, I thought I would rather play Spain than Italy, but if we play this way it wouldn't matter anyway, we'd lose to both by a handful.

oh well, I'm going to rest my hope on the fact that this team has consistently been performing better with their back against the wall.

  

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500. "RE: without Lloris we're taking 5 in the face."
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I really don't think I've ever seen a football team actually perform that badly on the most fundamental level. The level of praise the team received from pundits; within the camp and elsewhere simply didn't register with me, ITV kept coming out with something along the lines of 'they did alright, but they'll need to improve' which was just a severe understatement when you consider that Ukraine managed to dominate the entirety of the game; the midfield and the much-praised Gerrard couldn't handle threading together five passes at a time and the defence - although ultimately only beaten by an off-side attempt that was wrongly adjudged to not have crossed the line - looked shaky and nervous to the extent that anything that came their way simply ended up being booted down the other end of the field.

If we're even to challenge Italy then Roy needs to be ruthless and adapt to the style of play necessary, we need three men in midfield, with the Ox a nailed on candidate for making up the numbers while Young and Milner both appear to be lacking the necessary composure right now (or in the case of Milner, ever) to meet the levels necessary for international tournaments.

Rant over I suppose. :'(

  

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499. "So FIFA added goal line refs"
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who still can't tell if it was a damn goal.

Everything FIFA does is a debacle.

Nice work by the refs fucking up on the non-goal twice on one play thereby undoing their own mistake.


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501. "actually that's UEFA"
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Blatter was probably gloating about that missed goal in the game yesterday. I can't believe they won't get goalline tech right as some point, that does seem like a good solution for this sort of play.

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502. "how do you fuck that up!????"
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you have ONE JOB

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all stah
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503. "RE: how do you fuck that up!????"
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No. That was nice work by the refs. That racist ass country didn't deserve it.

that wouldn't have happened against a team like spain, italy, etc

  

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504. "hahaha speak of the devil (literally)"
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ole boy Sepp putting Platini on blast via twitter yesterday

https://twitter.com/SeppBlatter/status/215372031506657281

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505. "lol@the comments"
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#cunt

  

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