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"Usual Suspects: let's assume Verbal Kint = Keyser Soze"


  

          

how does he end up sitting in that interrogation room? once he shoots the last guy, why not walk away as the boat burns?

so you go from a complete ghost to now having a *possible* connection with a face, fingerprints, and arrest history.

and wtf was Fenster saying the entire movie? ol mumble-mouf mofo had me wanting to turn the captions on to watch the movie

anyway, what's the angle with Kint/Soze getting caught?


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Kint gets caught
Sep 24th 2015
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what do you mean "let's assume"?
Sep 24th 2015
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lol right
Sep 24th 2015
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why do some murderers help search for the victim?
Sep 24th 2015
3
remember the purpose of the heist was killing his enemy
Sep 24th 2015
4
SPOILLLERSSSS!!!!!
Sep 24th 2015
6
damb Jazz..as the header ta boot?
Sep 24th 2015
7
Let's assume Freddy Kruger is the killer
Sep 24th 2015
8
GimmehiTheaFuhgginCarkeysCocksuckaa!!!!
Sep 24th 2015
9
He can't just walk away
Sep 24th 2015
10
Sixth Sense : let's assume Malcolm Crow = dead
Sep 24th 2015
11
Se7en : let's assume Gwynneth Paltrow's head = in the box
Sep 24th 2015
12
funny. now can you 'dogpile on the rabbit' ass unoriginal ass mofos
Sep 24th 2015
13
Star Wars : let's assume Darth Vader = Luke's father
Sep 24th 2015
14
To Kill A Mockingbird : Let's assume Boo Radley saved Sprout
Sep 24th 2015
15
*Scout
Sep 25th 2015
17
I just had the wildest effin theory, yo
Sep 24th 2015
16
DAMN YO!!!!
Sep 25th 2015
18
      FOH THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!
Sep 25th 2015
20
           ^ STAYS WOKE!
Sep 25th 2015
23
I love yall, man...some straight jackasses, lol
Sep 25th 2015
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The Game: Let's assume it really was just a birthday gift
Sep 25th 2015
21
lmao
Sep 25th 2015
22
Bladerunner: let's assume Frank Deckard = A Replicant
Sep 25th 2015
24
be honest, you actually thought Verbal may not be Sose all these years
Sep 25th 2015
25
Goodfellas=lets assume there was a helicopter following him
Sep 25th 2015
26
Fight Club: Let's assume Jack = Tyler Durden
Sep 25th 2015
27
American Beauty: Lets assume the boys dad = gay
Sep 25th 2015
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While everyone is piling on, there have been several different theories
Sep 25th 2015
29
but he goes by verbal and the name translates to King Verbal
Sep 25th 2015
30
it wasn't a create your own ending book.
Sep 25th 2015
32
yes we do know its him because...
Sep 25th 2015
33
right.
Sep 25th 2015
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      Goes with out saying
Sep 25th 2015
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X Men Days of Future Past : let's assume Wolverine = time traveler
Sep 25th 2015
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ThaAnthology
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1. "Kint gets caught"
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there is no Kaiser Soze, not on record anyway. Have you ever wanted to get away with something and make sure you got away with it? There is no way for them to correlate the two.

Do you think Verbal had fingerprints to give that could implicate himself? After his performance in the interrogation room, I don't think so. The artist rendition was not sufficient and even if Coulyan put two and two together he'd be ghost chasing the rest of his career.

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2. "what do you mean "let's assume"?"
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the movie left no unanswered questions

  

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5. "lol right"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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3. "why do some murderers help search for the victim?"
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4. "remember the purpose of the heist was killing his enemy"
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The point was the perpetuation of his legend. Remember the story that was told earlier in the movie about how he killed anyone related to someone who crossed him. Well imagine this story being told as how far he would be willing to go to get someone who wanted to betray him. That's why he needed them to know who did it, and how confident he was that he could get away with it. And the movie said he's changed his face many times so the composite was useless after he escaped.

  

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6. "SPOILLLERSSSS!!!!!"
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this is number 23 on my netflix q

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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7. "damb Jazz..as the header ta boot?"
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8. "Let's assume Freddy Kruger is the killer"
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9. "GimmehiTheaFuhgginCarkeysCocksuckaa!!!!"
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10. "He can't just walk away"
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There's been a big firefight and explosion. The cops get there before he has a chance to skedaddle.

Just IMO though.

  

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11. "Sixth Sense : let's assume Malcolm Crow = dead"
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12. "Se7en : let's assume Gwynneth Paltrow's head = in the box "
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13. "funny. now can you 'dogpile on the rabbit' ass unoriginal ass mofos"
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look beyond the post title and talk about the actual post?

  

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14. "Star Wars : let's assume Darth Vader = Luke's father"
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Then who shot first? Greedo or Han?

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15. "To Kill A Mockingbird : Let's assume Boo Radley saved Sprout"
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Sorry -- I was going to answer intelligently, but I couldn't help myself.

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17. "*Scout"
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16. "I just had the wildest effin theory, yo"
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what if Clark Kent was Superman?!?!?? That shit is too crazy to be true, but that would be some wild shit.

  

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18. "DAMN YO!!!!"
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20. "FOH THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE! "
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SUPERMAN HAS PERFECT VISION, CLARK KENT NEEDS GLASSES... SEEWHATIMSAYIN? CAN'T BE!

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23. "^ STAYS WOKE!"
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21. "The Game: Let's assume it really was just a birthday gift"
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22. "lmao"
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24. "Bladerunner: let's assume Frank Deckard = A Replicant "
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25. "be honest, you actually thought Verbal may not be Sose all these years"
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cause ain't no way you type that shit unless you had an "or maybe..." in the back of your mind.

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26. "Goodfellas=lets assume there was a helicopter following him"
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28. "American Beauty: Lets assume the boys dad = gay"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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29. "While everyone is piling on, there have been several different theories"
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on Keyser Soze throughout the years. One is that Kobayashi is really Keyser Soze and Verbal Kint just works for him. Another is that Keyser Soze isn't an actual personbut is a group of people or an organization based on one person created as a legend.

The thing is, almost everything that we know in the movie came from Verbal Kint's interrogation and he was lying the entire time. The only thing that was really revealed in the end is that it was Verbal who killed Keaton and did all that stuff on the boat, but we don't know for a fact that he is the actual Keyser Soze and that he isn't just some high level hitman working for Soze.

  

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30. "but he goes by verbal and the name translates to King Verbal "
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and he spins that entire story as well as selling the team on the heist and also mimicking having a type of palsy or whatever. That whole subterfuge plays into what he was saying about Soze being a master of changing appearances.

He makes up the name Kobayashi -- and maybe even the story about his family because he's a master story teller as reflected in the alias.

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32. "it wasn't a create your own ending book."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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33. "yes we do know its him because..."
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one of the main guy in the boat, the main dude who isnt one of the usual suspects, looks at Kint when the door opens and is aghast in fear as he recognizes that he is Sose puling back in fear as he then gets shot up


>on Keyser Soze throughout the years. One is that Kobayashi is
>really Keyser Soze and Verbal Kint just works for him. Another
>is that Keyser Soze isn't an actual personbut is a group of
>people or an organization based on one person created as a
>legend.
>
>The thing is, almost everything that we know in the movie came
>from Verbal Kint's interrogation and he was lying the entire
>time. The only thing that was really revealed in the end is
>that it was Verbal who killed Keaton and did all that stuff on
>the boat, but we don't know for a fact that he is the actual
>Keyser Soze and that he isn't just some high level hitman
>working for Soze.

  

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34. "right."
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the artist's rendering of 'Keyser Soze' as described by that dude who got burnt up seemed to depict Verbal Kint. however, VK claimed that KS changes his face all the time. plus (this is me lawyering) those depictions are often faulty as eyewitness identification is notoriously unreliable.

and i agree - most of what we know about KS came from VK and he was lying through the entire movie. so we don't really know.

fuck you.

  

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35. "Goes with out saying"
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(this
>is me lawyering)

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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31. "X Men Days of Future Past : let's assume Wolverine = time traveler "
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it's going to be a long weekend

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