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SimplyHannah
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"Trans woman upset after her penis was detected at the airport"


  

          

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/trans-woman-upset-tsa-scanners-flagging-body-anomaly-article-1.2369457

Do you think this situation could have been handled differently or were they legitimately just doing their jobs?

  

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Trans woman upset after her penis was detected at the airport [View all] , SimplyHannah, Wed Sep-23-15 11:53 AM
 
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i think it could've been handled differently.
Sep 23rd 2015
1
I've never interacted with a less professional organization than the TSA...
Sep 23rd 2015
45
      You know?
Sep 23rd 2015
48
What I don't understand is...
Sep 23rd 2015
2
have they never seen a penis on the scanner before?
Sep 23rd 2015
3
I don't think that was the issue
Sep 23rd 2015
4
you can tell how brainwashed we are when they've made us think
Sep 23rd 2015
7
"you never slid some dynamite/c4 up your urethra dog?!?!?!"
Sep 23rd 2015
8
      Cuhzzzzz that hurt
Sep 23rd 2015
40
but then her breasts are a problem.
Sep 23rd 2015
9
m'saying, like...they gotta be ready either way
Sep 23rd 2015
17
      that's how i see it.
Sep 23rd 2015
20
I was unaware that there was sex-based scanning
Sep 23rd 2015
12
have you ever flown? there's only one scanner.
Sep 23rd 2015
14
      Denver ... April ... 2015
Sep 23rd 2015
47
           That's grimey as hell. What the fuck was the female TSA in it for?
Sep 23rd 2015
51
they scan based on your sex...
Sep 23rd 2015
5
      She was being stubborn or trying to make a scene
Sep 23rd 2015
11
      who has to "skate"? if they don't know that there are people
Sep 23rd 2015
19
           They do know. And apparantly they tried to resolve it simply...
Sep 23rd 2015
21
                actually, they don't. there aren't two machines
Sep 23rd 2015
22
                     Look, I'm not going to pretend to understand this calibration business
Sep 23rd 2015
23
                          tweeting about something is unreasonable behavior?
Sep 23rd 2015
24
                               ok
Sep 23rd 2015
25
      what do you think they see?
Sep 23rd 2015
15
           how do tthey know that's not a woman smuggling drugs claiming
Sep 23rd 2015
29
                how do they know that's not a "man" smuggling drugs
Sep 23rd 2015
30
                     i don't know...was legit asking
Sep 23rd 2015
33
                          and that's my legit answer
Sep 23rd 2015
35
                               system can't handle shit. but we already know that.
Sep 24th 2015
79
with TSA agents missing weapons & stealing/trafficking....
Sep 23rd 2015
6
& the technology doesn't care if you're "male" or "female"
Sep 23rd 2015
10
nah man she was in the female scanner
Sep 23rd 2015
16
seems like if she read the transgender website or tsa rules
Sep 23rd 2015
13
Sure but it can only be handled but so many ways.
Sep 23rd 2015
18
wouldn't that scanner pick up that as still being flesh?
Sep 23rd 2015
26
No comment, except, my apathy is invalidated for a petty reason.
Sep 23rd 2015
27
Lol
Sep 23rd 2015
28
LoL
Sep 23rd 2015
31
*stands in this line*
Sep 23rd 2015
32
LOL
Sep 23rd 2015
34
bruhh
Sep 23rd 2015
36
word.
Sep 23rd 2015
37
LOL
Sep 23rd 2015
38
Add on the fact it's a grown ass man bruh smh.
Sep 23rd 2015
39
Misgendering is so funny!! Lulzephees!!!
Sep 23rd 2015
41
Lol sorry but I can't even pretend to fake-care about this shit enough..
Sep 23rd 2015
42
right. So why call her a man?
Sep 23rd 2015
43
      Just posting on a message board bruh.
Sep 23rd 2015
44
           i can't post too?
Sep 23rd 2015
46
                aight.
Sep 23rd 2015
49
                Right.
Sep 23rd 2015
50
                women don't have penises last I checked.
Sep 23rd 2015
56
Misgendering seems to be at the root of this whole issue...
Sep 23rd 2015
53
      i agree.
Sep 23rd 2015
54
      There are times when you have to get around the self-identify business
Sep 23rd 2015
60
           not really.
Sep 23rd 2015
61
                What do you mean change the settings?
Sep 23rd 2015
63
                     i mean add settings for trans men and trans women.
Sep 23rd 2015
65
                          Sounds like creating a solution for a problem that doesn't really exist
Sep 23rd 2015
66
                               k.
Sep 23rd 2015
68
                                    Are you for voter ID too? And drug testing for welfare recipients?
Sep 23rd 2015
71
                                         yup. sure.
Sep 23rd 2015
72
My G, the proper pronoun is, 'they'...are a grown ass man
Sep 23rd 2015
52
lmao
Sep 23rd 2015
55
someone tell boehner he isn't allowed to cry
Sep 25th 2015
82
Where did I say he wasn't allowed to cry?
Sep 25th 2015
125
just don't know when to stop, huh?
Sep 25th 2015
89
LOL
Sep 24th 2015
75
^
Sep 25th 2015
93
What about the poor guy that "detected" it, lol
Sep 23rd 2015
57
the same guy who probably pats down hundreds of dudes balls
Sep 23rd 2015
58
      it was a joke, most likely it was a female agent that did the pat down.
Sep 23rd 2015
59
      Tsa grabs sacs?
Sep 23rd 2015
62
I'm wondering if she was tucked.
Sep 23rd 2015
64
i assume they didn't clock her.
Sep 23rd 2015
67
      I agree. I don't think she was clocked before the scan but...
Sep 23rd 2015
69
           TSA's scanners don't produce those images.
Sep 23rd 2015
70
                Ah. I'm relieved but that info clouds my opinion of this incident a bit.
Sep 23rd 2015
73
This is so gross & humiliating...I hope she sues & gets guap.
Sep 24th 2015
74
wait now theres ANOTHER word to learn? misgender?
Sep 24th 2015
76
that's life for you.
Sep 24th 2015
77
      Maybe they should learn to stop making dumb mess up.
Sep 24th 2015
78
           if you want to pout and close your eyes and ears to nature
Sep 25th 2015
83
           what's dumb about it?
Sep 25th 2015
92
           transgender people arent imaginary
Sep 25th 2015
108
This is why I'm terrified when friends travel, nationally or internation...
Sep 24th 2015
80
Question...
Sep 24th 2015
81
agreed
Sep 25th 2015
84
this is somewhat reasonable suggestion
Sep 25th 2015
95
      i think it IS a big deal to the ppl who are humiliated.
Sep 25th 2015
96
           RE: i think it IS a big deal to the ppl who are humiliated.
Sep 25th 2015
99
                it CAN be 'humiliation free' if, you know, WE WOULD STOP
Sep 25th 2015
101
                     ^^^^ Lot of things were socially acceptable that are now considered
Sep 25th 2015
121
                          But this doesn't seem like a case of discrimination at all...
Sep 25th 2015
128
                          That didn't refer to the OP.
Sep 25th 2015
129
                          *demanding
Sep 25th 2015
135
Can someone explain how 'her penis' is a logical statement?
Sep 25th 2015
85
She's a woman, that was born anatomically male.
Sep 25th 2015
86
the 'boys have a penis/girls have a vagina' stuff they taught us in pre-...
Sep 25th 2015
87
      Does she have XY chromosome or XX ?
Sep 25th 2015
88
           still over simplifying
Sep 25th 2015
90
           :)
Sep 25th 2015
91
           Here's the thing and I'm not saying there aren't transgendered people
Sep 25th 2015
113
                there is no room for debate.
Sep 25th 2015
120
                     I know that's your stance but Rachel Dolzeal isn't black
Sep 25th 2015
130
                          This ain't about transracialism.
Sep 25th 2015
131
           why?
Sep 25th 2015
94
                I'm not a woman so I can't say what exactly womanhood is
Sep 25th 2015
106
                     so what?
Sep 25th 2015
107
                          I hear you, I'm not really coming from a 'what does it hurt?' angle
Sep 25th 2015
112
                               a'ight.
Sep 25th 2015
116
                                    You're right we should follow their lead
Sep 25th 2015
117
                                         ok i understand what you meant.
Sep 25th 2015
119
we get really dumb about stuff like this
Sep 25th 2015
97
i don't think the ppl who experience the humiliation are not
Sep 25th 2015
98
you mentioned the death by a 1000 cuts
Sep 25th 2015
100
      no we don't agree.
Sep 25th 2015
102
           k
Sep 25th 2015
103
                and i also have no problem w/us 'adding complexity' to
Sep 25th 2015
105
                     not every layer of complexity is beneficial
Sep 25th 2015
109
                     i dunno what that means.
Sep 25th 2015
118
                     that first paragraph fits me perfectly
Sep 25th 2015
111
I agree with this
Sep 25th 2015
104
      well my thing is, do we revamp the system for each person who
Sep 25th 2015
114
           Next we'll have to change all the buildings for people who want
Sep 25th 2015
122
           comparing self-identity to a handicap is problematic
Sep 25th 2015
123
           Would we agree if ppl had made the 'slippery slope' argument re: black
Sep 25th 2015
126
           for the record im not for mistreating anyone either...i simply posed
Sep 25th 2015
137
                We deal with those as they come.
Sep 25th 2015
140
                     fair enough.
Sep 25th 2015
141
           We don't know enough about trans people
Sep 25th 2015
127
                but that seems to be the big thing that comes up in these discussions...
Sep 25th 2015
133
                     Reread again... It does hurt them
Sep 25th 2015
143
                          i was saying its been asked 'who will it hurt if u just go along with
Sep 25th 2015
146
                               Oh, gotcha.
Sep 25th 2015
147
           really really bad comparison.
Sep 25th 2015
132
                The comparison was about accomodation it didn't compare trans to the dis...
Sep 25th 2015
134
                If a possible accomodation is just to do things setup up for their sex
Sep 25th 2015
138
                     fine.
Sep 25th 2015
139
                          You can engage me man. I don't know if I've been put on one of your list...
Sep 25th 2015
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                               lol
Sep 25th 2015
144
                                    I'm with you on the sensitivity training...
Sep 25th 2015
148
                People literally made the same arguments that are in this post 100%
Sep 25th 2015
145
           There is no slippery slope.
Sep 25th 2015
124
the ignorance on here is amazing
Sep 25th 2015
110
Hannah Banana, good job posting and vamoosing
Sep 25th 2015
115
This whole thing boils down to a mechanical issue...
Sep 25th 2015
136

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