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https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/12/4/18126446/markelle-fultz-thoracic-outlet-syndrome

TOS is a pretty serious injury in baseball, but it's also almost exclusively a baseball injury, which both adds to the curiosity over what contributed to it in Fultz, whether it's actually what's going on with him, and what kind of timeline he's looking at. I'll leave the full article behind the link but add most of the salient details below:


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"The “thoracic outlet” of “thoracic outlet syndrome” is the gap between the collarbone and the first rib. A lot of important stuff has to fit through that hole, specifically nerves and major blood vessels, and repetitive motion (such as throwing a baseball) can cause that gap to shrink. When that happens, the collarbone and the top rib compress all the nerves and blood vessels between them like a clamp, which can cause numbness and/or muscle weakness in the hand.

"When the TOS is neurogenic, it meansthe issue is with a compressed nerve, while vascular TOS entails a compressed blood vessel. The most famous TOS case in baseball history came in 1980, when Astros ace J.R. Richard suffered a stroke brought on by the blood vessel constriction of vascular TOS. Richard, then 30 years old and coming off back-to-back 300-strikeout seasons, nearly died and never pitched in the major leagues again.

Sometimes pitchers, even All-Stars like Chris Carpenter, Josh Beckett, and Matt Harrison, never come back from TOS at all. Others, like Harvey, get a rib taken out and come back eight months or a year later with their velocity, movement, command, or all three greatly reduced. In addition to Harvey, Jaime Garcia, Phil Hughes, and Tyson Ross all came back weakened by TOS.

The only unqualified success story that comes to mind is Braves right-hander Mike Foltynewicz, who had a rib removed to alleviate TOS in September 2015. He returned to the rotation the following May, and two years later pitched 183 innings with a 2.85 ERA, made his first All-Star team, and earned a couple of down-ballot Cy Young votes. It’s worth noting that while many of these pitchers were at or near the end of their careers anyway when they were diagnosed with TOS, Foltynewicz had his surgery when he was 23, and his recovery might bode well for the 20-year-old Fultz, if it comes to that."


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Fultz shut down. His attorney is sending him to a shoulder specialist (t... [View all] , BrooklynWHAT, Tue Nov-20-18 11:53 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
TJ >>>
Nov 20th 2018
1
Good idea. If he's not right, there's no use in playing him.
Nov 20th 2018
2
RE: social media (and the actual media) mocking his free throw attempts ...
Nov 20th 2018
3
He's had a very public history of shoulder injury.
Nov 20th 2018
9
      What does that have to do with social media/media?
Nov 20th 2018
12
           ... have you ever come back from an injury before?
Nov 20th 2018
13
                We understand alladat...and yes, I've been through rehab
Nov 20th 2018
17
"we'll see" (c) longo
Nov 20th 2018
5
      We'll see what?
Nov 20th 2018
10
his attorney??? sheeeesh.
Nov 20th 2018
4
This lends me to believe it's an injury
Nov 20th 2018
6
Right
Nov 20th 2018
7
His agent is his attorney
Nov 20th 2018
8
well he practiced today lol (twitter)
Nov 20th 2018
11
What the hell is really going on?
Nov 20th 2018
14
      He's getting bad advice from someone, if not everyone.
Nov 20th 2018
15
           Yup, bad advice from all over is what I’m thinking too.
Nov 20th 2018
19
           good point
Nov 23rd 2018
22
it seems like the simplest explanation is that
Nov 20th 2018
16
Brown and Brand don't seem to know any more than we do
Nov 20th 2018
18
this is all just a messed up situation..
Nov 22nd 2018
20
Dude seems like a head case. Maybe the pressure is too much?
Nov 23rd 2018
21
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1066493021649281024?s=19
Nov 24th 2018
23
what sucks is that teams were still legit interested in july/august
Nov 25th 2018
24
Neurogenic Thoracic Outlet Syndrome. treatable by physical therapy
Dec 04th 2018
25
Motorcycle accident
Dec 04th 2018
26
that sounds bizarre
Dec 04th 2018
27
id rather have the yips tbh
Dec 04th 2018
28
My wife has this, it's no joke
Dec 05th 2018
30

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