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23. "Here's the truth regarding O-Line, Russ, etc. "
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Fri Jan-05-18 08:47 PM by PROMO

  

          

First of all, let me address the O-Line and the problems there. The problem with the O-Line is squarely on Tom Cable and Pete Carroll.

Pete has allowed Tom to cook with this philosophy that Cable is SOOOOOOOOOOO good that he can turn your average short-order cook at Denny's into a quality left guard. The shit ain't working, and I think it's fine to wonder how smart Cable and Carroll are in this regard. I say THAT because Pete is OBSESSED with the run. He really doesn't wanna throw the ball. He wants to smash you in the face until you submit. Because this is true, he is intricately tied into Cable, and because he is ultimately the head coach and ultimately in charge he has allowed Cable to have a say in the run game via who Cable has "coached up" and what they are good at. Now, sadly, our O-Line isn't good at anything...so...the lack of a run game is not on Bevell. It's squarely on the shoulders of Pete Carroll and Tom Cable. It's not because Bevell calls bad plays. It's because we have bad players trying to block the run. Now, the problem only becomes exacerbated when the RBs on the team are not the most talented bunch. Now you've got poor RBs trying the run the ball through a line that is even worse than they are.

As far as Russ and how the O-Line struggles have affect him, I'll say this: CLEARLY, there are too many times when the O-Line just fails to block the pass rush adequately, which causes Russ to scramble (maybe he completes it, maybe not), or to have to throw out of bounds, or worse - get sacked. Beyond that, Russell's problems lie with Russell. John Schneider and Pete Carroll always had this belief that, despite his height, Russ would develop into a passer who climbs the pocket and reads the defense similar to Drew Brees. Much to their dismay, Russ doesn't climb the pocket and we're 5 years in. Watch Russ in the pocket...even when he's protected he retreats, retreats, retreats because he's setting up his scramble in case he doesn't see open targets. Because he's so jittery and ready to run, he sometimes puts the O-Line in trouble because although they are doing an okay job, unbeknownst to them he's running around behind them and putting them in positions to get holding calls and whatnot. Also, Russ hasn't really proven that he's reading defenses that well. Most of his bread gets earned when shit breaks down and then his WRs are able to shake free and he completes passes. But watch him closely and see where he stands in there, reads the coverage and finds guys (especially throwing through tight windows or complete passes into tight coverage). It's just not there as much as it should be in year 5.

With all that being the case, the team is at an existential crossroads with Russ trying to figure out what the team IS and what the team can or should be. There's some rumblings that they should trade Russ now when his value is still high and use the picks and money saved to start rebuilding and looking for a more traditional passer. While that may seem a little crazy, the team has point blank just gotten old. We're gonna have to do some moderate rebuilding simply because of that so you really do have to evaluate if you wanna overhaul. Because, if you can find a talented, traditional pocket passer (not easy to do) then you might also find it easier to build a line around that type of guy.

As for everyone hating Russ in the locker room? I think that shit is overblown. I think a few years ago it WAS a problem but at this point, from what I know, it's not like that now.

Sherm will be fine and Earl is still a stud. Avril and maybe Kam are done. Mike Bennett has looked very average this year. Jimmy Graham is gone. Hawks will likely move on from Jeremy Lane as he's been injury prone and outplayed by younger, cheaper players. Our LBs are still good and Frank Clark and Sheldon Richardson (if he re-signs) are quality on the front line. We may have found a rejuvenated jewel in Dion Jordan.

We need to draft Saquon Barkley if possible. We also need O-Line, DB, RB and WR depth. Let's not forget that our kicker cost us THREE (THREE, YO!!!) wins this year so we'll err on positive side and say that won't happen next season. I mean, if he makes those kicks and we have those 3 wins then this discussion gets postponed for another season. I'm kinda happy we're having to have it happen now.

Anyways, fuck every other team. Go Hawks. And if you want a great follow on Twitter who breaks down this shit w/ more detail, sources and depth than I ever could, follow: https://twitter.com/DavisHsuSeattle

  

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Seattle blew it [View all] , COOLEHMAGAZINE, Sun Oct-01-17 09:04 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Marshawn's team
Oct 01st 2017
1
this is the correct analysis.
Oct 01st 2017
4
RE: Seattle blew it
Oct 01st 2017
2
that Carson dude just broke his ankle/leg
Oct 01st 2017
3
remember when Seattle looked like a potential dynasty?
Jan 05th 2018
5
how the heck can Russ be the problem with the offense...
Jan 05th 2018
6
they dont even have a real O-Line
Jan 05th 2018
8
It isn't on Russ.
Jan 05th 2018
9
Russ is part of the inconsistency
Jan 05th 2018
10
RE: Russ is part of the inconsistency
Jan 05th 2018
15
I feel like your beef should be with Darrell Bevel
Jan 05th 2018
16
him backyarding it and scrambling is the only way they move the
Jan 05th 2018
13
Unless you got cheat codes dynasties are tough in the NFL...
Jan 05th 2018
7
Russ quote may be more about how well he's liked than truth
Jan 05th 2018
11
they really hate russ and its disgraceful.
Jan 05th 2018
14
      maybe it is, maybe it isn't
Jan 05th 2018
21
      I love Russ but I could definitely see why they hate him
Jan 05th 2018
22
      Tom Brady leads a nutritional cult
Jan 10th 2018
30
           https://media1.tenor.com/images/82498e0624e27d848333c5581705a973/tenor.g...
Jan 10th 2018
32
      man, I swear I don't get that shit...
Jan 06th 2018
26
AAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHGHGGHGHGHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Jan 05th 2018
12
Only thing to wonder back then was how it was going to fall apart
Jan 05th 2018
18
Seattle OL, Giants OL, Broncos QB
Jan 05th 2018
17
but but but QUICK SLANTS!
Jan 05th 2018
19
RE: Seattle OL, Giants OL, Broncos QB
Jan 05th 2018
20
      RE: Seattle OL, Giants OL, Broncos QB
Jan 06th 2018
24
           RE: Seattle OL, Giants OL, Broncos QB
Jan 06th 2018
27
                .
Jan 06th 2018
28
Getting rid of Russ instead of coaches would be madness.
Jan 06th 2018
25
OC Darrell Bevell fired
Jan 10th 2018
29
did they blow it? If anything, they blew a Super Bowl, but that's it.
Jan 10th 2018
31
RE: did they blow it? If anything, they blew a Super Bowl, but that's it...
Jan 10th 2018
33
      again though, to the point of being in the playoffs...
Jan 11th 2018
35
      RE: again though, to the point of being in the playoffs...
Jan 11th 2018
37
           we got old/injured.
Jan 11th 2018
38
                RE: we got old/injured.
Jan 11th 2018
39
      it's not shocking for a team to go to 2 SB's and then fall off
Jan 11th 2018
36
           the problem is their issues are obvious and fixable
Jan 17th 2018
45
Cable fired as well
Jan 10th 2018
34
Brian Schottenheimer and Ken Norton Jr. take over OC and DC
Jan 16th 2018
40
the latter is the general opinion here.
Jan 16th 2018
41
LOL SHOTTY LOL
Jan 17th 2018
42
as a person that watched all the Rams games when he was here...+1
Jan 17th 2018
43
christ
Jan 17th 2018
44
RE: LOL SHOTTY LOL
Jan 17th 2018
46
Todd Haley got fired today.
Jan 17th 2018
47
Haley's teams had much more talent
Jan 18th 2018
48
Fuck telekinesis.
Jan 18th 2018
49
these dudes have 80 total yards in three quarters
Sep 17th 2018
50
      200 in the 4th.
Sep 17th 2018
51
           They've done no favors for Wilson
Sep 18th 2018
52
           It's crazy how he was written off as a game manager
Sep 18th 2018
53
           score effect
Sep 18th 2018
54
damn, man...Russ looked like his spirit got broken
Sep 18th 2018
55

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