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Joe Corn Mo
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"did jazz players invent dissonance?"


  

          

forgive the shock title.
just needed clarity on something I read on Wikipedia.

what i think i read was that bebop musicians
started introducing weird chords and chord changes into pop songs
that hadn't been used in western music before,

and that these changes came about because bebop musicians came
out of the blues tradition, which was based on a scale system
that had the flattened third and fifth as the norm...

which is completely different from what western music
had been doing up to that point.

and based on the popularity of bebop and its offshoots,
those chords spread... and it's influence was so great
that those previously unused chords now show up in every genre
from funk to pop.




did I get that right?
if so... That's amazing .

And the idea of jazz being based on an
entirely different scale than the do re me fa sol la ti do
scale that I learned in school...

and the idea that the blues scale was not something that
came from modifying the western scale... but instead comes
from another place entirely...

that seems profound.
black americans ppl gave the world an entirely new musical vocabulary.
it affected all music that came after it.




sorta like hip hop.

did I understand what I read correctly?

  

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did jazz players invent dissonance? [View all] , Joe Corn Mo, Wed Feb-25-15 12:00 AM
 
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Dissonance predates jazz and blues
Feb 25th 2015
1
the rite of spring wants to talk to you, among others.
Feb 25th 2015
2
Dissonant chords have been around as long as chords have been around.
Feb 25th 2015
3
There's lots of non-diatonic scales in European music.
Feb 25th 2015
4
i'll take these answers as a no.
Feb 25th 2015
5
I can see that argument, but it's pretty one-dimensional
Feb 25th 2015
6
RE: I can see that argument, but it's pretty one-dimensional
Feb 25th 2015
8
      This is wrong:
Feb 25th 2015
9
      to be honest I kinda tune out the theory stuff
Mar 03rd 2015
10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consonance_and_dissonance
Feb 25th 2015
7

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