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11. "i bet you do."
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>on a basic level the songs sound the same....almost
>sampled...

keyword: almost

i've actually compared them one behind the other. i've tried to sing 'Blurred Lines' on top of 'GTGIU' and vice versa. i found that the SONGS don't have enough similar elements to convince me Williams borrowed any copyrighted material. definitely no sample and no interpolation, even.

however when i listen to the records i get a similar FEEL from them. it seems that Williams may have borrowed some production elements - some inspiration. as far as i know production elements and feel aren't copyrighted material.

i get the same feeling when i hear George Duke's 'Dukie Stick'. that shit sounds just like a P-Funk record. the statute of limitations has already run so Clinton or Balaban or Warner Brothers or Universal won't be able to sue Duke or whomever is responsible for 'Dukie Stick'.

i get the same feeling when i hear 'Got To Be Real' and 'Best of My Love'. the feel like the same song. i confuse them when i hear them. it's too late for a suit on that stuff too though.

>and lets remember that Thicke and thems side initiated a legal
>action...kind of rang like a guilty person being initially
>extra defensive thinking they would have the edge because they
>would have access to higher priced lawyers.....

it was more like a pre-emptive move by Thicke/Williams - they wanted a judge to tell the Gayes to have a seat and stop threatening legal action.

>it didn't work out for them..

sure didn't.

>add a little more creativity to what you do.... the "making
>beats" mentality in R&B at some point is always going to risk
>copying or redo-ing previous tracks because you're not dealing
>with production coming mostly from composed music played by
>multiple musicians..along with those musicians individual
>musicianship....
>
>it's a hazard of the current game

the hazard is pretty old though. it's at least as old as 'Dukie Stick', 'Got To Be Real', James Brown's 'Hot' (actually stole copyrighted material from Bowie's 'Fame'), Ready for the World's 'Oh Sheila' (FEELS like a Prince record).... we can come up w/several old examples of this practice. it's not that new, really.

  

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god don't like ugly (marvin gaye vs robbing thicke & pharrell) [View all] , fire, Fri Oct-31-14 02:47 PM
 
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I hope the Gayes lose.
Oct 30th 2014
1
Me too.
Oct 30th 2014
2
I hope producers and artists get more original...n/m
Oct 30th 2014
3
I hope you realize how ridiculous this sounds.
Oct 31st 2014
5
I hope you realize how riddiculous it sounds to have a
Oct 31st 2014
8
      I hope you realize that if they actually end up...
Oct 31st 2014
12
           or like if my favorite producer makes a beat that
Oct 31st 2014
14
                Yep. So fucking frivolous and obnoxious.
Oct 31st 2014
17
A grip of your favorites would be affected by this.
Oct 31st 2014
7
      I view the Thicke song and the Marvin Gaye song to be
Oct 31st 2014
10
     
           they went ON record IN print SEVERAL times
Oct 31st 2014
15
                they didn't use any copyrighted material
Oct 31st 2014
16
                RE: they didn't use any copyrighted material
Oct 31st 2014
19
                I think with the way the music is made today....
Nov 01st 2014
22
                There's 3 billion artists....
Oct 31st 2014
18
                     no man
Oct 31st 2014
21
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ exxxxxxxxxxxxxxxactly.
Oct 31st 2014
13
This means nothing.
Oct 31st 2014
4
      Going to court doesn't exactly mean "nothing"
Oct 31st 2014
6
           they got nothing and will most likely lose.
Oct 31st 2014
9
           RE: Going to court doesn't exactly mean "nothing"
Oct 31st 2014
20

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