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"who has brought more Game changers into hip-hop than Dr.Dre?"
Sun Oct-21-12 12:41 PM by Menphyel7

  

          

If Kendrick lives up to the promise of his debut and section 80 he can def be something special and impactful...and Dre brought him out into the mainstream.

Even tho he didn't have as active role in the music as he did the others he still sorta responsible for gettin him out there and getting an ear.

To my count he has brought 4 certifed game changers into rap.

D.O.C.
Snoop
Em
50.

I been debating on if The Game is one or not he is def a tier or two under the other 4 but that shit is remarkable.

4 rappers who will go down as legend commerical and critical and who had an impact came out under Dre. THe Doc did it with one damn album but his work and writing with Dre/NWA makes him a game changer..the way he basically keep them afloat as mcs after Cube left is overlook.

I'm thinking who else is in the running who have brought 4 or more legends/superstars up under them as a tutor.

its early as hell but if Kendrick make it number 5 that's just add on to his legacy and keep him relevant musically that much more cause Kendrick will proably always pay respect and give DRe shine if he blow up.

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who has brought more Game changers into hip-hop than Dr.Dre? [View all] , Menphyel7, Sun Oct-21-12 12:39 PM
 
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But...
Oct 21st 2012
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http://media.photobucket.com/image/tell%20em%20why%20you%20mad%20son%20g...
Oct 21st 2012
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Whether I'm mad or not
Oct 21st 2012
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      no 'whether' about it, enjoy ur testy & twisted version of the truth tho
Oct 21st 2012
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           Thanks for letting me know what mood I'm in...
Oct 21st 2012
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                oh you thought your original reply warranted a real discussion?
Oct 21st 2012
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                     If you didn't think that it did then shut the fuck up and keep it moving
Oct 21st 2012
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                          or I could continue to laugh at your pathetic keyboard vitriol
Oct 21st 2012
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His headphones do indeed suck
Oct 21st 2012
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Let me not be misunderstood
Oct 21st 2012
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      RE: Let me not be misunderstood
Oct 21st 2012
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      lol, dude's so pressed he just called Straight Outta Compton forgettable
Oct 21st 2012
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           RE: lol, dude's so pressed he just called Straight Outta Compton forgett...
Oct 21st 2012
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           We weren't talking about NWA
Oct 21st 2012
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                RE: We weren't talking about NWA
Oct 21st 2012
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                damn I didn't even think of Above the law...did he bring them out?
Oct 21st 2012
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                well that's convenient, then just switch it w/Chronic 2001, Eazy-Duz-It
Oct 21st 2012
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                     RE: well that's convenient, then just switch it w/Chronic 2001, Eazy-Duz...
Oct 21st 2012
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                          So we're going to act like Ems mainstream success isn't a gimmick now?
Oct 21st 2012
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                               it's not
Oct 22nd 2012
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                                    The fuck are you talking about?
Oct 22nd 2012
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                                         I think I came off to strong and heated off of skimming your post
Oct 25th 2012
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      all of them have made bomb ass albums with little to no dre involvment
Oct 21st 2012
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RE: But...
Oct 21st 2012
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How am I tearing him down?
Oct 21st 2012
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I don't think that it's unreasonable to criticize his post-death row
Oct 21st 2012
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RE: I don't think that it's unreasonable to criticize his post-death row
Oct 21st 2012
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Oh my bad, this is a board where ppl offer their opinions
Oct 21st 2012
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      RE: Oh my bad, this is a board where ppl offer their opinions
Oct 21st 2012
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           But I judge "artistic" quality on my personal tastes
Oct 21st 2012
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           RE: But I judge "artistic" quality on my personal tastes
Oct 21st 2012
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           I never said that Dre wasn't a legend, did I?
Oct 21st 2012
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           but that doesnt make him a flash in the pan
Oct 27th 2012
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           I don't think you're getting it
Oct 21st 2012
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                RE: I don't think you're getting it
Oct 21st 2012
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                     RE: I don't think you're getting it
Oct 21st 2012
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uh, 'flash in the pan artist w/staying power' doesnt make any sense
Oct 21st 2012
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Let me clarify then: I don't think that he has made one good
Oct 21st 2012
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      lol @ 'understand now?' because you got called on your bullshit
Oct 21st 2012
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           Called on what? He made one good album, it was huge
Oct 21st 2012
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                just stop it he made more than one good album
Oct 21st 2012
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                Snoop Lions sounds like it has real potential though, ha
Oct 21st 2012
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                     Top Dogg and Last meal was banging
Oct 21st 2012
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                          I personally didn't like them, but I wasn't a Beats by the Pound
Oct 21st 2012
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                               There are only two beats from KLC (B.B.T.P.) on No Limit Top Dogg...
Oct 22nd 2012
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                               yea top dogg and was all west coast shit he went back to his lane
Oct 22nd 2012
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                               which means not a 'flash in the pan'
Oct 27th 2012
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                it wasn't that I didn't 'understand' what you said, you were just wrong
Oct 21st 2012
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                     Glad you were able to work through it
Oct 21st 2012
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what in THEE fuck?
Oct 27th 2012
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Man come on now try to answer the question
Oct 21st 2012
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RE: Man come on now try to answer the question
Oct 21st 2012
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      this is just lies
Oct 22nd 2012
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           Glad you focused on the one thing that was a joke
Oct 22nd 2012
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                you don't have to like something to recgonize its a classic
Oct 22nd 2012
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                RE: you don't have to like something to recgonize its a classic
Oct 22nd 2012
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                Sales ≠ Impact, n/m
Oct 24th 2012
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                     This was meant to say Sales =/= Impact
Oct 24th 2012
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^^^^
Oct 22nd 2012
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DOGG. DOGG. STOP IT. DOGG.
Oct 22nd 2012
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The mind boggles...
Oct 22nd 2012
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^^^^^
Oct 24th 2012
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RE: DOGG. DOGG. STOP IT. DOGG.
Oct 24th 2012
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      Well then you need to stop conflating your arguments...
Oct 24th 2012
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           This is where I stand from the start
Oct 25th 2012
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                This is all well and good but you're dodging my point...
Oct 25th 2012
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                     You're talking a lot of dumb shit bro
Oct 25th 2012
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                          The problem is you're being a hypocrite...
Oct 25th 2012
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Wow. The fuck.
Oct 22nd 2012
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RE: But...
Oct 24th 2012
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Well
Oct 24th 2012
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congrats
Oct 25th 2012
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      Lol
Oct 25th 2012
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           you too, are on okp in 2012.
Oct 27th 2012
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The illuminati
Oct 21st 2012
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who has let more artists go stale on his label than Dr. Dre?
Oct 21st 2012
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Eazy-E? Brought Ruthless Records, himself, Dre, Cube, Bone Thugs, etc.
Oct 21st 2012
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Eazy discovered the Black Eyed Peas too, tho that could be considered
Oct 21st 2012
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I don't count NWA cause they came out together
Oct 21st 2012
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Whatever happened to Mel-Man?
Oct 21st 2012
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can we not thank him for game & k.lamar too?
Oct 21st 2012
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I always thank Snoop more for Warren G but I guess Dre
Oct 21st 2012
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Marley Marl, besides working with Juice Crew and Rakim
Oct 21st 2012
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RE: Marley Marl, besides working with Juice Crew and Rakim
Oct 21st 2012
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yea I wasn't around back then but he was famous Before the juice
Oct 21st 2012
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In interviews, both Pete and Premier explained how he actually
Oct 21st 2012
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      cool I didn't know he actually showed Primo and Pete techniques
Oct 21st 2012
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           At the end of the day, what happened to Death Row after
Oct 21st 2012
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To paint the full picture, you have to list the Juice Crew artists:
Oct 21st 2012
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RE: who has brought more Game changers into hip-hop than Dr.Dre?
Oct 21st 2012
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once you mention dre's name in the lesson it's a wrap
Oct 21st 2012
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mofos so mad they can't even answer the question straight
Oct 21st 2012
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There's a Lesson contingent that refuses to admit...
Oct 21st 2012
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      these niggas cant be that miserable.
Oct 21st 2012
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      Yes they can
Oct 21st 2012
      Yes they can
Oct 21st 2012
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      Co-sign.
Oct 24th 2012
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Hellyeah like yo name
Oct 22nd 2012
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Dre deserves props, but he comes off like Vince McMahon
Oct 21st 2012
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only Dame Dash is comparable
Oct 21st 2012
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he not an artist tho..that's his job is to bring people out tho
Oct 21st 2012
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      yeah, if you start bringing in execs Dame wouldn't be even
Oct 21st 2012
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NOBODY
Oct 21st 2012
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also reason I didn't add cube is cause they came in together
Oct 22nd 2012
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      yeah, i was talkin shit lol
Oct 22nd 2012
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           yea def no dre no cube
Oct 22nd 2012
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red alert- jungle brothers, ultramagnetic, atcq, bdp, de la soul, etc
Oct 21st 2012
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Teap, reading Check The Technique was an eye-opener
Oct 21st 2012
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RE: red alert- jungle brothers, ultramagnetic, atcq, bdp, de la soul, et...
Oct 22nd 2012
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this is a good one to argue
Oct 23rd 2012
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Dre ain't shit as an artist, but I respect the fact he uses his platform
Oct 21st 2012
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One more thing
Oct 21st 2012
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what hits did 50 have without dre?
Oct 21st 2012
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Come on Block
Oct 21st 2012
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maybe, but without dre, there's no get rich or die trying
Oct 21st 2012
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      But this is what my point is Block
Oct 22nd 2012
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           he gave kendrick his cosign, and in today's west coast climate, that's b...
Oct 22nd 2012
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RE: what hits did 50 have without dre?
Oct 22nd 2012
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      #77
Oct 22nd 2012
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      RE: what hits did 50 have without dre?
Oct 22nd 2012
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then why is everyone not bringing out legends
Oct 22nd 2012
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Because Dre has the white folks behind his every move
Oct 22nd 2012
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      what does it matter the difficulty level? i don't understand that part
Oct 22nd 2012
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      or maybe quik doesn't have the eye or talent for gromming people
Oct 22nd 2012
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           Truth is
Oct 22nd 2012
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                you know how many people have had the machine and flop
Oct 22nd 2012
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revisionism at its finest
Oct 27th 2012
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      Not sure where you were but
Oct 27th 2012
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puff? chris lighty?
Oct 21st 2012
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I consider them exces
Oct 22nd 2012
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Wait, Dre isn't responsible for Kendrick Lamar is he?
Oct 22nd 2012
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he brought him out and gave him the Dre cosign
Oct 22nd 2012
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Let these cats tell it and Dre is responsible for hip-hop
Oct 22nd 2012
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      he did set the archetype for west coast gangsta hip hop
Oct 22nd 2012
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      you tell it and Dre just trip and fell over all his success
Oct 22nd 2012
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           Didn't say that at all
Oct 22nd 2012
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                all of them have tried brining people who was hot and need
Oct 22nd 2012
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                I'll be real about this, I will definitely say Kendrick I'd consider
Oct 22nd 2012
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                RE: I'll be real about this, I will definitely say Kendrick I'd conside...
Oct 22nd 2012
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                     RE: I'll be real about this, I will definitely say Kendrick I'd conside...
Oct 22nd 2012
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                     I could go both ways on this
Oct 22nd 2012
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                     you ignoring Kendrick is this equaiton too
Oct 22nd 2012
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                Bubba Sparxx didnt exist in a vacuum
Oct 27th 2012
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i just want to say snoop has TONS of good songs post-doggystyle
Oct 22nd 2012
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agreed, he has no album better but he's produced several albums worth
Oct 22nd 2012
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yep exactly
Oct 22nd 2012
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Yes.
Oct 22nd 2012
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hell yea..Topp Dogg, THe last meal, and Blue caprpet Treatment
Oct 22nd 2012
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Yup for sure
Oct 22nd 2012
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Indeed. The problem with him post-Doggystyle was inconsistency.
Oct 24th 2012
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*reads about 5 posts.........leaves thread for good*
Oct 22nd 2012
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I can't blame you, there is a crazy amount of bulshit in this one
Oct 22nd 2012
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      These replies show how effective Rawkus's marketing was
Oct 22nd 2012
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           RE: These replies show how effective Rawkus's marketing was
Oct 22nd 2012
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                lmaooo
Oct 23rd 2012
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                that nigga must hate your GUTS
Oct 27th 2012
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RE: who has brought more Game changers into hip-hop than Dr.Dre?
Oct 22nd 2012
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and neither of them came up with the original music
Oct 22nd 2012
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      RE: and neither of them came up with the original music
Oct 22nd 2012
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           i just wish last emperor had been on the list
Oct 22nd 2012
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                RE: i just wish last emperor had been on the list
Oct 22nd 2012
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Russel Simmons?
Oct 22nd 2012
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he not an artist/producer that's what I was I getting at
Oct 22nd 2012
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      RE: he not an artist/producer that's what I was I getting at
Oct 22nd 2012
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this is why we can't have nice things
Oct 22nd 2012
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Dre has contributed much in the way of talent intros & developmt; Marley
Oct 22nd 2012
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The truth bombs are falling on fragile mind grapes!
Oct 22nd 2012
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I don't think so; I think it's a case of amnesia & what have you done la...
Oct 23rd 2012
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      i don't know why people are crediting marley for rakim in here?
Oct 25th 2012
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oct 22nd 2012
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if you count those 4 as his successes, he's had double that in failures
Oct 22nd 2012
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nah, it really isn't, thanks for trying tho
Oct 23rd 2012
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not for fagfondlers like you, it's not
Oct 24th 2012
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      ^^^damn, even the homoerotic alliteration was weak for this reply
Oct 25th 2012
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           RE:. you're worth the effort he got, no more than that
Oct 25th 2012
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Depends what you consider as "failures" though, IMO.
Oct 24th 2012
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      RE: Dre-hyped artists that don't come out
Oct 24th 2012
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           RE: Dre-hyped artists that don't come out
Oct 24th 2012
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                RE: Dre-hyped artists that don't come out
Oct 24th 2012
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                     RE: Dre-hyped artists that don't come out
Oct 24th 2012
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                     RE: Dre-hyped artists that don't come out
Oct 25th 2012
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                          RE: Dre-hyped artists that don't come out
Oct 25th 2012
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                               Where'd you hear this?
Oct 25th 2012
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                                    I read it in a XXL article when his album was supposed to come out
Oct 25th 2012
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                                         That's so awkward.
Oct 25th 2012
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                                              you know those upcoming albums lists they do every year?
Oct 25th 2012
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                                                   Yep. Thanks dogg.
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                                                        I found a link to a later article that covers it
Oct 25th 2012
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                                                             Damn.
Oct 25th 2012
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                                                                  what I get from it is that he didn't mind coming halfway
Oct 26th 2012
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                                                                       Agreed.
Oct 26th 2012
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Dre just an over-rated A&R
Oct 23rd 2012
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Some of these niggas are on ridiculous mode.
Oct 23rd 2012
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no one believes group home are dope lyricists haha
Oct 23rd 2012
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      You haven't read enough of these posts if you believe that.
Oct 24th 2012
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Hes also left more people out to dry than anyone else, Let's examine:
Oct 24th 2012
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RE: Hes also left more people out to dry than anyone else, Let's examine...
Oct 24th 2012
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so what you're say is that a lot of people want to be big stars...
Oct 24th 2012
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      Well played, but no...
Oct 24th 2012
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           Yeah. Last Emp was one more song about comic books away...
Oct 25th 2012
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The fact no one has mentioned the RZA yet saddens me nm
Oct 24th 2012
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I think its the NWA thing most people see them as coming in
Oct 24th 2012
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      RE: I think its the NWA thing most people see them as coming in
Oct 25th 2012
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LA Reid, Clive Davis, Russel Simmons, Kevin Liles, Sylvia Rhome
Oct 24th 2012
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them execs were talkin about artists.
Oct 24th 2012
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ya'll forget Reid was an artist before all of this, huh?
Oct 25th 2012
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      nah I don't think its the same
Oct 25th 2012
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lol y'all hate dre that much?
Oct 24th 2012
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I agree, for several reasons.
Oct 24th 2012
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I LOVE how niggas are overlooking that Red Alert post
Oct 24th 2012
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I think that many people, me included
Oct 24th 2012
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^^^^^^^^^^
Oct 24th 2012
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I LOVE how mad you are that you made Red Alert a producer & artist
Oct 25th 2012
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      RE: he's done production and put out albums, cumcurdler
Oct 26th 2012
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           nobody knows Red Alert as a producer & he has albums like Flex does
Oct 26th 2012
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                who gives a fuck if niggas don't know it
Oct 27th 2012
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                     Red Alert is a radio DJ not an artist or producer, you lost
Oct 27th 2012
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                     RE: Red Alert is a radio DJ that did beats and albums
Oct 28th 2012
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                     did he "oversee" of those classic albums tho?
Oct 28th 2012
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                          fuck no
Oct 29th 2012
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                          yep
Oct 30th 2012
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One more thing.
Oct 24th 2012
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No to the Kendrick part.
Oct 24th 2012
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A lot of people got on him in 2012....
Oct 25th 2012
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actually, no, at least as many people knew 50 as they did Kendrick
Oct 25th 2012
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      Shots from Jigga?
Oct 25th 2012
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      i think he was referring to 50
Oct 25th 2012
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      "As early as 2009..."
Oct 25th 2012
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           yeah I think so
Oct 25th 2012
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           yeah, I meant '99 on Jay/50, sorry. 2009 was Dre meeting Kendrick
Oct 25th 2012
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      RE: Shots from Jigga?
Oct 25th 2012
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           See above. I knew about 50.
Oct 25th 2012
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      RE: actually, no, at least as many people knew 50 as they did Kendrick
Oct 28th 2012
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Nvm
Oct 25th 2012
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How bout we list his failures too?
Oct 25th 2012
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RE: it's not allowed
Oct 25th 2012
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Wait...1. He didn't bring in X 2. Xzibit was a failure?????????
Oct 25th 2012
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      These mafuckas on here.
Oct 25th 2012
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      Cats talkin out they asses hating blindly
Oct 25th 2012
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      I was just gonna leave that alone.
Oct 25th 2012
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      XZIBIT is a perfect example of an EASY blown dunk by Dr. Dre
Oct 30th 2012
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           RE: XZIBIT is a perfect example of an EASY blown dunk by Dr. Dre
Oct 30th 2012
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           This.
Oct 30th 2012
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           Clown it if you want, but does Xzibit get "Pimp my ride" type fame witho...
Oct 30th 2012
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      lofl. same shit i said fam
Oct 26th 2012
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No one. But who would be second? RZA? Jay? Kanye?
Oct 25th 2012
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Didnt Meth, Ghost, etc come up with RZA though?
Oct 29th 2012
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COOL DJ RED ALERT and its not even up for debate...
Oct 26th 2012
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is he a proudcer tho...most people know him for being a DJ?
Oct 28th 2012
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      DJ was more important than MC or "producer" in the 80s
Oct 29th 2012
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RE: who has brought more Game changers into hip-hop than Dr.Dre?
Oct 27th 2012
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I don't think it's that at all
Oct 28th 2012
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Shock G
Oct 27th 2012
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Dre is to 50 as Weezy is to Drake
Oct 30th 2012
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um... 50 was mainstream in NY before Dre...
Oct 30th 2012
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      Umm. And Drake was "mainstream" in Canada pre-Weezy
Oct 30th 2012
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           U sound mad
Oct 30th 2012
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This is the lesson at its worst...
Oct 30th 2012
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it should be possible but alot of folks ain't doing
Oct 30th 2012
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