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17. "I'd say Dizzy was more ''out'' than Charlie tonally..."
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I think Charlie was more stringently blues-based; granted, he played the blues-scale in keys that were "wrong yet right" harmonically and thus sounds quite wacky at times but the point is that his melodicism was very blues-based.

Dizzy on the other hand was very blues-based too but I think he put in more "off"-notes and chromaticism and non-scale passing-tones in his solos so it was like expanded blues just like Charlie but a bit different in approach, like maybe Dizzy was more in tune with the expected tonality but put a lot of "off-notes" and chromaticism in there whereas Charlie was more "out" harmonically but more "in" melodically if that makes sense.

Then again, it could be because of the relatively more inprecise pitch of the trumpet compared with the sax that make me feel this way; the trumpet is of course a very "out" instrument in terms of pitch...

  

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help me navigate bebop. [View all] , Joe Corn Mo, Wed Feb-25-15 11:28 AM
 
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Feb 25th 2015
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Maybe Duke Ellington said it best...
Feb 25th 2015
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lol I prefer Sun-Ra to Miles as well, same kind of reason, yet I
Feb 27th 2015
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What do you mean "doesn't resolve?"
Feb 26th 2015
3
i mean the part your ear is waiting to get to.
Feb 26th 2015
4
      Generally more useful to think in terms of types of resolution.
Feb 26th 2015
5
           that's really helpful.
Feb 26th 2015
6
                That said, I can't hum a Bird solo either.
Feb 26th 2015
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                     nah, Hard Bop was more ''populist''...
Feb 26th 2015
8
                          That's true. Couldn't be any less, surely.
Feb 26th 2015
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Charlie Parker's Music...
Feb 26th 2015
10
keep struggling at how to approach this so i'm just gon ramble
Feb 26th 2015
11
bebop has a rep as all brain and not danceable but
Feb 27th 2015
12
^^ edited above post to address the topic of navigating it early on
Feb 27th 2015
13
      No, I completely agree
Feb 27th 2015
18
I COMPLETELY agree with that George Clinton perspective btw
Feb 27th 2015
14
I think I'll make a mix of what I think might be accessible bop.
Feb 27th 2015
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