70. "I HATE THE VERY NOTION OF REFERRING TO IT AS THE EDM ERA!!!" In response to In response to 63
FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!. YOU WANNA SEE ME SPAS OUT!!!! BWAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAH!!! THAT SHIT IS INFURIATING HULK SMASH SHIT MAN!! DON'T DO THAT AGAIN!!
> And since you are obviously referring to todays >EDM-era,
NO I AM NOT. AT ALL!! THE MUSIC OF TODAY CANNOT SIMPLY BE REDUCED TO **ELECTRONIC DANCE MUSIC** IT CANNOT!!! YOU'RE WAY TOO SMART FOR THAT SHIT JAKOB!! EVEN IF YOU DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANY KINDA MUSIC MADE WITH ELECTRONIC INSTRUMENTS, DON'T FALL INTO THAT REDUCTIONIST SHIT MAN!! FOR FUCKS SAKE!!
> I see absolutely no reason why that would change; the >people most likely to look back are those most dissatisfied >with the present.
Let's be clear. You're talking about what folk are listening to and I'm talking about influence. I'm not sure what you mean about people listening to Mingus, Monk and Miles though, so explain that? Only people doing that today are people that lived during the 20th century and small nerdish niches. Now don't get me wrong, the only ones listening to Riley, Stockhausen and Cage are small nerdish niches as well, but those nerdish niches are much bigger than the jazz ones today if you omit the twencengen from the accounting.
>And the influence of the avantgarde-giants >of 20th century "serious" music on electronic music is >severely overrated (the music would be more interesting if it >wasn't BTW);
No it's not overstated if we're talking specifically about the three that you mentioned. Those three that you mentioned echo throughout so much electronic music, and I'm not just talking about the EDM shit. Shit if you extend that to Eno as a twencengen bridge you gotta realize it's a progressively bigger influence.
>more than anything, the "influence" comes through >in shared technology/concepts for music-making where the >classical establishment was undeniably ahead of the curve.
Yes. Ultimately I'd say its more philosophical which is why I characterize the difference as the player era vs the machine era. It's paradigm shifting in the very approach of music. People aren't even approaching music like the three M's these days. Their whole approaches come out of that avant classical lineage.
>Once the technology was in the hands of the "people", it >mirrored pop/dance/rock/whatever-forms more than classical; >Giorgio Moroder for example is a bigger *direct* influence on >EDM than any classical composer.
I'm going to pretend like this isn't the way you're going to continue debating this with me so that I don't have to address this.