>dog, we getting too old for this, man... either you put your
>cards on the table or let's just let it rest and walk away
>from it.

your original post claimed that without afro-cuban music..there would not have been a Black American music. In fact the title of the post was saying specificlly that..... The original post was not about the influence....it was about the impact of that influence being so great that it's impact upon Black American music was more important that what Black Americans brought to Black American music beyond it....

and I repeatedly pointed out that the influence of Afro-Cuban elements on Black American Music in the larger history were "minimal overall and "indirect" as Black American music continued to evolve.

minimal...and indirect....

the same terms that were used to correct or assertion that Fela Kuti's music influenced James Brown to a greater degree than vice versa.

minimal...and indirect

were their elements of Afro Cuban music and culture that greatly influenced African American Music...absolutely. You mentioned many of them in your original post, and in this one. I for one never saw anyone questioning that. But that influence was not only limited in it's reach geographiclly...it was limited in time, and became less impactful as Black American Music evolved from the experience of Black Americans living IN AMERICA.

your original post claimed that the Afro Cuban influence was so strong that without it, there would not have been a Black American music...and it's influence was stronger than anything Black Americans brought to the table out of their own existence disconnected from Afro Cuban culture..

those where the exagerations from your original post.

I was not alone in correcting you on it...

you know what you said..and you know what you corrected yourself about. Honestly if you are not man enough to cop to it now...there is no need for a discussion..