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24. "the first mistake is stereotyping all cops and thinking that they all..."
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think same when the reality is cops are real people from diverse backgrounds and their individual opinions on this issue are equally diverse.

At the same time, most cops are not too quick to judge another's cops actions because while its easy to armchair quarterback a situation after the fact and say what a cop should or should've have done, but when you're in the heat of the moment sometimes things go bad. Most cops have been in intense situations where there was a potential threat and weapons were drawn and the majority of the time those situations are diffused without violence. But in the back their minds they all know that a minor detail such as a sudden move by a individual and the situation could have ended up a whole lot differently and that haunts them. They look at a lot of these other situations and say that could have easily been me.

Most cops don't put their uniform on in the morning say "I'm going to kill somebody today." They just want to get their shift in and go home to their families at the end of the night. But stuff happens, they get into those intense situations, adrenaline is flowing, they get scared and things go bad. People say "If you're scared then you shouldn't be a cop!" Well that's easy to say but I don't see the people saying that signing up to be cops. The reality is in most municipalities police officers are not that highly paid, so we get what we get. Most departments are understaffed as it is and when they do find money to hire some new police officers its equally as hard to find quality candidates. There aren't many Rhodes scholars signing up to be cops. Most of the rank and file cops don't even have undergrad degrees. But people expect them to be these super-intuitive & intellectual geniuses and they aren't.

Back to those intense situations, like I said the majority of them are diffused without violence. But sometimes they aren't. Sometimes police officers get hurt, sometimes they get killed. While it doesn't happen every day it does happen. As a police officer every day you go into work you walk past pictures on the wall of officers from your dept. who have died in the line of duty. In training those names are drilled into your head and you are told what not to do so you don't end up the same way.

And as for the whole, "why don't the good cops tell on the bad cops?", the problem is even "good cops", white, black, brown or yellow, occasionally do things that are illegal or not "by the book" even though it may be a good reason. It may be lying in a statement to get a legitimate bad guy off the streets that's about to walk on a technicality. They may let somebody slide that should be locked up but their a good person that's trying to turn their life around and has a family to support. Or you may have done something illegal and had to lie to cover your own ass. Everybody makes mistakes. Most cops worst fear is being locked up with the criminals they locked up. So when you start pointing out the dirty shit the "bad" cops are doing you open yourself up for everything you've ever done to be scrutinized. Its basically career suicide and you could be putting your life on the line as well.

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cops be too emotional and too irrational
Jul 13th 2016
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Yup.
Jul 13th 2016
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I would not want to be a cop right now...
Jul 13th 2016
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Being a cop ain't for everyone. If they feel that way they shouldn't be ...
Jul 13th 2016
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yeah...in theory.
Jul 13th 2016
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its part of the job
Jul 13th 2016
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people on both sides are, until people attempt to try see things from th...
Jul 13th 2016
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nah, the biggest issue is that police are quick to defend their own
Jul 13th 2016
11
yup, somehow condemning 1 turned into condemning all
Jul 13th 2016
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      RE: the first mistake is stereotyping all cops and thinking that they al...
Jul 13th 2016
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      RE: the first mistake is stereotyping all cops and thinking that they al...
Jul 13th 2016
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           You basically said the police are mostly ignorant fearful and corrupt
Jul 13th 2016
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                So when are you putting in your application?
Jul 13th 2016
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                     Like I said man -- why would I want to be part of a corrupt entity
Jul 13th 2016
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                          so what's your solution?
Jul 13th 2016
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                               Avoidance by any means necessary
Jul 13th 2016
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      i don't think people think that all cops are racists, hate blacks, don't
Jul 13th 2016
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      RE: i don't think people think that all cops are racists, hate blacks, d...
Jul 13th 2016
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           nah its not like other jobs
Jul 13th 2016
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           You are absolutely right and that is a whole different issue, like I sai...
Jul 13th 2016
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                but that's the whole point of BLM lol
Jul 13th 2016
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                     RE: but that's the whole point of BLM lol
Jul 13th 2016
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                          And people in BLM agree that change needs to come from the top
Jul 13th 2016
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                               You're speaking like BLM is a structured organization and its not....
Jul 13th 2016
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                                    you said people on both sides needs to see both perspectives
Jul 13th 2016
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                                         so what's the solution? Fire all the cops?
Jul 13th 2016
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                                              fire the bad ones who get caught
Jul 13th 2016
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                                              Right? Kind leads to the conclusion that the dirtiest are at the top,
Jul 13th 2016
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                                              they are, in a lot of big city departments some of the people at the top...
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                   So basically it's broken beyond repair.
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                        it all goes back accountability, local governments have to hold them...
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                             and that speaks to the fear and lack of value most whites have for black...
Jul 13th 2016
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                                              who's going to fire them?
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                   If the system worked it would be their superiors
Jul 13th 2016
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                                              make substantive change w/in police culture.
Jul 13th 2016
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                                              Please run for some kind of office. I will move to your state and vote.
Jul 13th 2016
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                                              ^^^^all of this
Jul 13th 2016
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                                              you're like Bernie Sanders, great ideas, but how do we get there?
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                   who would you rather die at the hands of? The police or one of your own?
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                   neither, but the reality is Im probably 100 times more like to be killed...
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                        do you live in a war zone?
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                             RE: do you live in a war zone?
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                             That's a violent neighborhood not a warzone. Who makes you stay?
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                             RE: That's a violent neighborhood not a warzone. Who makes you stay?
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                             High murder rates do not a warzone make
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                   RE: you're like Bernie Sanders, great ideas, but how do we get there?
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                        Thank you So What -- that War Zone remark was absurd
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                        RE: you're like Bernie Sanders, great ideas, but how do we get there?
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                             RE: you're like Bernie Sanders, great ideas, but how do we get there?
Jul 13th 2016
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                                              so what answered this below better than i would have, but i'm still
Jul 13th 2016
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                                                   I said in a another post that mysteriously got deleted, but black lives....
Jul 14th 2016
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           if there are just a few bad apples standing up shouldn't be a big deal
Jul 13th 2016
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                So when are you kicking off the race war?
Jul 13th 2016
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                     We've been in a 397 year long race war sometimes hot sometimes cold
Jul 13th 2016
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                          who do you think is going to win?
Jul 13th 2016
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                               If we can handle 337 years of abuse we can handle anything
Jul 13th 2016
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                                    okayplayer. n/m
Jul 13th 2016
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      You think Philandro didn't want to go home at the end of the day?
Jul 13th 2016
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      its funny that he says both sides needs to see each other's
Jul 13th 2016
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      I figured most black people here know the pov of black people.
Jul 13th 2016
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      RE: You think Philandro didn't want to go home at the end of the day?
Jul 13th 2016
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           Help us understand how a mofo gets pulled over for having a wide nose?
Jul 13th 2016
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           Nobody is justifying any of that.
Jul 13th 2016
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                Okay..lowering bar. Help us to understand. Go!
Jul 13th 2016
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                you can focus on actionable issues or you can focus on being mad...
Jul 13th 2016
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                     Neither of those has anything to do with understanding the other side
Jul 13th 2016
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                          RE: Neither of those has anything to do with understanding the other sid...
Jul 13th 2016
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                               thanks...that is the type of stuff where if OTHER COPS admitted
Jul 13th 2016
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                Are you saying there's something wrong with it?
Jul 13th 2016
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           so?
Jul 13th 2016
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           RE: so?
Jul 13th 2016
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                RE: so?
Jul 13th 2016
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                     I agree with this 100%, but how do we get there?
Jul 13th 2016
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                          convince prosecutors, judges and jurors that cops' fear is unreasonable.
Jul 13th 2016
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                               How do you do that without damaging their white fragility?
Jul 13th 2016
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                               Exactly. n/m
Jul 13th 2016
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                               It has to be done without cynicism.
Jul 13th 2016
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                                    yeah something like the brown eye / blue eye exercise
Jul 13th 2016
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                               RE: convince prosecutors, judges and jurors that cops' fear is unreasona...
Jul 13th 2016
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                                    there is no 'use of force law' AFAIK.
Jul 14th 2016
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                                         yeah i think there are just use of force guidelines as established
Jul 14th 2016
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           I'm sick of hearing about cops having a hard job
Jul 13th 2016
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           So when are you putting in your application?
Jul 13th 2016
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                for what? i dont want to be a cop
Jul 13th 2016
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                     Exactly. n/m
Jul 13th 2016
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           Black people do understand the other side -- they're scared of us.
Jul 13th 2016
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                so when are you putting in your application?
Jul 13th 2016
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                     Soap doesn't clean dirt. Dirt makes soap dirty and good cops get FIRED.
Jul 13th 2016
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                          RE: Soap doesn't clean dirt. Dirt makes soap dirty and good cops get FIR...
Jul 13th 2016
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                          You're right, I personally know ex-cops that were fired for trying to...
Jul 13th 2016
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                               They should ask that question before joining. Is it worth my character?
Jul 13th 2016
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      none of this excuses police brutality.
Jul 13th 2016
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      This doesn't justify unarmed Blacks being 5 times as likely to be killed
Jul 14th 2016
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+1
Jul 13th 2016
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The issue isn't that complex though. Not complex at all really.
Jul 13th 2016
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its complex in the sense that in order to resolve it there are multiple....
Jul 13th 2016
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Not true. Race as a construct has to go away and that's impossible.
Jul 13th 2016
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yup. too caught up in they feewings and their unreasonable fear.
Jul 13th 2016
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Police brutality says you're right.
Jul 14th 2016
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since when did BLM = fuck the police?
Jul 13th 2016
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well, they think our lives don't matter so I would say....
Jul 13th 2016
4
Clearly, black people are scary....
Jul 13th 2016
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The narrative is as old as the Stono rebellion
Jul 13th 2016
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When they put the word 'Black' in the title
Jul 13th 2016
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This 'Murica. Black is the opposite of white, so BLM = Anti-white-lives
Jul 13th 2016
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      ^ well said
Jul 13th 2016
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People swear "the majority are good cops". No, they're the biggest gang
Jul 13th 2016
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NYPD == The Riffs
Jul 13th 2016
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frats with oaths
Jul 13th 2016
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Cops fall directly under Troops in the yt heirarchy..Dogs is above
Jul 13th 2016
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Black lives were probably saved that night
Jul 13th 2016
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lol... lovely reply
Jul 14th 2016
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Thank you.....TheTruth, Cenario, SoWhat, Atillah, legs
Jul 13th 2016
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yeah...
Jul 14th 2016
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