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"Biggest difference I see between the Poor & the Wealthy/ Robert Peace"
Thu Sep-10-15 09:27 AM by Buddy_Gilapagos

  

          

It seems like disadvantage people start from scratch every generation.

And I am not just talking about assets (which is obvious) but I am talking about life lessons and knowledge that is passed down.

I see it even in the successful people from disadvantaged backgrounds, they have to learn on their own how to navigate school college, getting loans, how to get and keep a job, etc.

I was reminded of this because I just finished the book "the short and tragic life of robert peace" and it's clear to me the biggest thing missing in his life was someone to mentor him and tell him exactly what he needed to do after he left Yale. Dude was groping around trying to figure out what to do with that Yale degree and all it would have taken is someone to point out how he could have leverage that to make the type of money he wanted. A lot of first generation college don't realize that making it to college is really just the start of it all and they have all sorts of decisions to make after that to obtain a Good Life. I don't know how many smart black kids I have met who go to good schools and unknowingly sign up for the hardest course load possible and end up doing terrible in school for the first time in their life.

Meanwhile their wealthy counterparts are being advised on what courses to take, where to intern and have jobs lined up when they are done with school. I finally understand the old black folk general advice to don't take time off before school or grad school and their insistence that you either become a doctor or a lawyer. At least those are degrees that can help you be self-sufficient to a certain extent and not need nepotism and other look outs to get ahead.


I was also reminded this fact because I was home last week and I see my Mom playing that role of giving real basic advice to all sorts of people (college and non-college bound) who don't otherwise have that sort of mentor role. No don't take that high interest loan on that car, you can't afford it. Learn about your credit score; etc. My little foster brother got his student loans check in his bank account and thought it was party time. Ma dukes had to shut all of that down.

If you have to figure out all that stuff on your own you either have to be super smart or disciplined or you can only get so far in one generation.

Personally, even though I come from a good family and have done pretty well for myself, I still feel that I am about one generation behind my white counterparts. Considering My father's grandfather was a slave, that's damn good. But yeah.

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Biggest difference I see between the Poor & the Wealthy/ Robert Peace [View all] , Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Sep-10-15 09:26 AM
 
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Great post - our "independence" mentality hurts us
Sep 10th 2015
1
Interesting way to put it. Memba that OKP who said he wouldn't mind his
Sep 10th 2015
10
I see generational bad decisions with my fam too.
Sep 10th 2015
2
Co-sign.
Sep 10th 2015
3
My poor family members make emotional financial decisions
Sep 10th 2015
4
"short sighted" is a loaded term.
Sep 10th 2015
5
      nah, its not bashing if its thr truth
Sep 10th 2015
6
           It's bashing when you attribute it to a character flaw.
Sep 10th 2015
7
                Example: Gave my sister $2500
Sep 10th 2015
13
                     Arguably getting a real estate license is a better investment.
Sep 11th 2015
15
                          in theory you are correct
Sep 14th 2015
36
                          Do you need a mentor for mathematical common sense?
Sep 14th 2015
41
                               The example you gave wasn't about Math though
Sep 14th 2015
49
RE: Biggest difference I see between the Poor & the Wealthy/ Robert Peac...
Sep 10th 2015
8
I do all this for my sister, even logging into loan/school/fafsa...
Sep 10th 2015
9
*makes it rain in poast*
Sep 10th 2015
11
It's this, plus a few more things. One thing I realize with folks my age
Sep 10th 2015
12
*bookmarks for later*
Sep 11th 2015
14
You are %100 right.
Sep 11th 2015
16
That's all true but sometimes people don't listen too
Sep 11th 2015
17
Nobody listens. People emulate what they see.
Sep 11th 2015
19
      yup.
Sep 11th 2015
20
dope insight, good brother...
Sep 11th 2015
18
did the whitebul make all the money from that R Peace book
Sep 12th 2015
21
u ain't never lied
Sep 12th 2015
22
Y'all trippin' and y'all wrong
Sep 13th 2015
23
this is the exact opposite of blaming the victim.
Sep 13th 2015
24
No, but spin on
Sep 13th 2015
26
      You gonna even try to explain how this is blaming the victim when...
Sep 13th 2015
28
           I believe that it is more difficult to see this as anything else
Sep 13th 2015
29
           Soo you don't see how what I am describing is structurally discriminator...
Sep 14th 2015
37
           I understood that
Sep 14th 2015
42
                How is it blaming the victim to say poor ppl need mentors and resources?
Sep 14th 2015
46
                     Because you are assuming that they
Sep 14th 2015
48
                          You arguing that poor people have enough resources and mentors?
Sep 14th 2015
50
                               Mentors yes
Sep 14th 2015
53
           ive read this response 7 times today and I still don't get it
Sep 14th 2015
38
                Please let me know what is difficult to comprehend
Sep 14th 2015
40
                     your total point. please stop being snarky and just give up the goods
Sep 14th 2015
45
                          You have previously established that you do not care for actual data
Sep 14th 2015
47
                               uh, no, now give up the goods or stop trolling
Sep 14th 2015
51
                                    Again, if you don't understand
Sep 14th 2015
52
           ignore this dude.
Sep 13th 2015
32
                ^^^ And when you get angry, deflection always works
Sep 13th 2015
33
Who else want some?
Sep 13th 2015
27
Yep.
Sep 13th 2015
25
RE: Yep.
Sep 14th 2015
43
Great post.
Sep 13th 2015
30
Can we talk about this for a second?
Sep 13th 2015
31
I was able to get a meeting with a VP of marketing
Sep 14th 2015
44
excellent post and topic
Sep 13th 2015
34
I think lawyer and doctor aren't realistic for many
Sep 14th 2015
35
the recent nyt article about p4p/ABC is a good compliment to this convo
Sep 14th 2015
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