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Subject: "Recognizing nuance is imperative for progress. As well as language."
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FLUIDJ
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Wed Apr-12-17 10:21 AM
61. "Recognizing nuance is imperative for progress. As well as language."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
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When does Black Optimism become Black Denial? (Dez Bryant ed.)
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Buddy_Gilapagos
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Tue Apr-11-17 11:09 AM
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prolly about the time you take a picture with white people
Rjcc
Apr 11th 2017
1
The Michelle Obama quote isn't saying the same thing
Bluebear
Apr 11th 2017
2
Fair enough. But try this mental test.
Buddy_Gilapagos
Apr 11th 2017
4
Trump isn't Black and he came from money... cmon B.
legsdiamond
Apr 11th 2017
5
But why does who the speaker is matter?
Buddy_Gilapagos
Apr 11th 2017
9
it matters.
Shogun
Apr 11th 2017
10
because it does.. lol
legsdiamond
Apr 11th 2017
17
Ah, in other words, he has no authority to speak on that subject
Buddy_Gilapagos
Apr 11th 2017
26
I don't have a problem with it as long as it's within reason
legsdiamond
Apr 11th 2017
3
tHat part
infin8
Apr 12th 2017
72
it depends on the perspective of whomever is saying.
tariqhu
Apr 11th 2017
6
I guess the question is why does the speaker background matter?
Buddy_Gilapagos
Apr 11th 2017
8
context always matters with language
Bluebear
Apr 11th 2017
12
legs already said it.
tariqhu
Apr 11th 2017
19
I think people remind themselves of what they haven't done......
rorschach
Apr 11th 2017
7
People too soft to hear you though.....
WarriorPoet415
Apr 11th 2017
This shit: "no one ever had it harder than Desmond D. Bryant" is useless
flipnile
Apr 11th 2017
11
a nigga never been as broke as me.when i was young i had 2 pair of Lee's
SooperEgo
Apr 11th 2017
13
KRS-1 only had 1.5 pair of jeans.
Buddy_Gilapagos
Apr 11th 2017
14
Pretty much ALL of it is internalized racism/self-hate, let's be honsest
BigReg
Apr 11th 2017
15
My only counter would be white people buy into this thinking too
Buddy_Gilapagos
Apr 11th 2017
18
Hillbilly Elegy
ambient1
Apr 11th 2017
21
RE: My only counter would be white people buy into this thinking too
BigReg
Apr 11th 2017
22
Nah, You Just Can't Tell Niggas Shit
WarriorPoet415
Apr 11th 2017
25
I've literally never seen this convo play out like this irl lol...ever
ambient1
Apr 11th 2017
28
have more conversations.
WarriorPoet415
Apr 11th 2017
33
mmhmmm
ambient1
Apr 12th 2017
40
Yup. How dare this nigga tell me to work a little harder?
legsdiamond
Apr 11th 2017
30
still though....you don't see how
Selah
Apr 12th 2017
75
All black Americans are one bad moment away from having nothing
abcdmetrius
Apr 11th 2017
16
now see.. ionno about all that luck
legsdiamond
Apr 11th 2017
20
Alot of people do, but don't turn out like these famous ppl we know.
Buddy_Gilapagos
Apr 11th 2017
23
Way too many artist in VA made it for it to be luck
legsdiamond
Apr 11th 2017
27
You bootstrap folks kill me.
abcdmetrius
Apr 11th 2017
31
I'm Black, racism exist but I'm not going to give up or make excuses
legsdiamond
Apr 11th 2017
34
Nobody is asking you to do either.
abcdmetrius
Apr 11th 2017
35
Ehh... you sure about that?
legsdiamond
Apr 12th 2017
36
Luck that on the wrong day at the wrong time nothing happened to him
abcdmetrius
Apr 11th 2017
24
That's not luck that's life. Car accident or staph infection?
legsdiamond
Apr 11th 2017
29
RE: That's not luck that's life. Car accident or staph infection?
abcdmetrius
Apr 11th 2017
32
how is it not luck to play a violent sport and avoid career
MiracleRic
Apr 12th 2017
41
that's like saying it's luck every time I get in my car and don't die
legsdiamond
Apr 12th 2017
45
I mean it kinda is though
Mafamaticks
Apr 12th 2017
81
6"2 / 220 lbs / 4.5 40-time / 38" vert
2.tears.in.a.bucket
Apr 12th 2017
57
Word. I wouldn't say "all" but most, definitely.
flipnile
Apr 12th 2017
38
Most niggas are one other nigga away from having their lives ruined
abcdmetrius
Apr 12th 2017
70
just to chime in, the overarching
Mr. ManC
Apr 12th 2017
37
Protestant work ethic (boostraps mentality)
MiracleRic
Apr 12th 2017
39
imma give Dez a B for effort.
BrooklynWHAT
Apr 12th 2017
42
same dude who slapped his mom, right?
2.tears.in.a.bucket
Apr 12th 2017
43
NO ONE EVER HAD IT HARDER THAN DEZ. NO ONE!
flipnile
Apr 12th 2017
44
LMAO - he's one hell of a man b/c i wld've ceased to exist
2.tears.in.a.bucket
Apr 12th 2017
47
Question: Is "I did it, why can't you?" the same as "I did it, you can t...
FLUIDJ
Apr 12th 2017
46
how abt ''what can we build together that NOONE ELSE controls?''
2.tears.in.a.bucket
Apr 12th 2017
48
HOW BOUT DAT
FLUIDJ
Apr 12th 2017
58
a small one
MiracleRic
Apr 12th 2017
49
There's reality in the encouragement. "You can too" is loaded with
FLUIDJ
Apr 12th 2017
59
no, optimism is not partially realism
MiracleRic
Apr 12th 2017
73
first one sounds like an accusation
legsdiamond
Apr 12th 2017
50
that's my take too. 1st one is mad dismissive......
FLUIDJ
Apr 12th 2017
60
yes but only because people want to be simpleminded.
BrooklynWHAT
Apr 12th 2017
51
I talked to some young people recently.
Buddy_Gilapagos
Apr 12th 2017
54
Yeah, if you telling somebody "Try Harder" or "Work Harder" as advice
FLUIDJ
Apr 12th 2017
62
examples that worked in past
tariqhu
Apr 12th 2017
64
the message changes once the systems admins give you a microphone
Atillah Moor
Apr 12th 2017
52
His statement is true only in the fact that we agree to the political
Musa
Apr 12th 2017
53
ijs the nigga is STILL very successful. his platform gave us this thread...
2.tears.in.a.bucket
Apr 12th 2017
Doesn't matter -- a white person had to okay his success
Atillah Moor
Apr 12th 2017
84
The same platform granted to him by the very same White people
Shaun Tha Don
Apr 14th 2017
89
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2.tears.in.a.bucket
Apr 12th 2017
55
success is moving up levels.
tariqhu
Apr 12th 2017
67
yup. you start out poor and end up solid middle class.. SUCCESS
legsdiamond
Apr 12th 2017
78
Which levels economic levels?
Musa
Apr 12th 2017
79
yes....
tariqhu
Apr 12th 2017
82
RE: When does Black Optimism become Black Denial? (Dez Bryant ed.)
double 0
Apr 12th 2017
56
My beef is, using the past as the sole motivation for success.
FLUIDJ
Apr 12th 2017
63
man, if someone is poor as shit and they have a solid gig
legsdiamond
Apr 12th 2017
77
statistical perspective: when the outlier doesn't get its an outlier
Selah
Apr 12th 2017
65
I get what you're saying.
FLUIDJ
Apr 12th 2017
66
in your take... what is it that the 99 is saying back to the 1?
ambient1
Apr 12th 2017
68
depends
Selah
Apr 12th 2017
69
Sorta
ambient1
Apr 12th 2017
71
i dunno
Selah
Apr 12th 2017
74
some push back agressive, some agree,
MiracleRic
Apr 12th 2017
76
Also if you study economics in the USA capitalism is not set up for
Musa
Apr 12th 2017
80
right, capitalism requires poor people to work properly
Garhart Poppwell
Apr 12th 2017
83
if that turkey didn't have that star on his head then nobody would care
mistermaxxx08
Apr 12th 2017
85
Black Optimism is personal accountability. Black Denial is blame.
obsidianchrysalis
Apr 12th 2017
86
I finally clicked the link and his tone is def accusatory
legsdiamond
Apr 13th 2017
87
^^^^All good stuff.
Buddy_Gilapagos
Apr 13th 2017
88
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