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Topic subjectI made this post here about Detox a few years back....
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2844523, I made this post here about Detox a few years back....
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Mon Sep-30-13 03:51 PM
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And I still think that's the case. Just listening to his sound, how long it's been since it was a "hot" or relevant sound to most folks...and his just being this much older...he might not have it in him to TRULY re-invent his sound completely and change the game again. And he can't rely on the same formula, even with the whole "put a new artist on it and release their album after"...that was literally 20 years ago when that happened and worked. Some of us forget how much folks were thinking 2001 was gonna be a flop, and that was just seven years after Chronic. Now, this shit here would be 14 years later!!

>>08. It's better that Detox never come out.
>>
>>Deep down, we all know it. Every few years, Punxsutawney Dre
>>pokes his head out of the studio, thinks about finally
>letting
>>the world hear what he's been working on all this time, sees
>>his shadow, and thinks better of it. Last time that
>happened,
>>we got closer than ever to an honest release date, with two
>>Top 40 singles. But "Kush" was a rehash of past glories,
>>complete with a fake Nate Dogg hook, and "I Need A Doctor"
>was
>>a depressing pop crossover with a Skylar Gray hook and
>Eminem
>>all but taking over the record to beg Dre to put out the
>>album.
>>
>>The album Dr. Dre would've released in 2011 would've been a
>>crushing, Chinese Democracy-level disappointment. And while
>>you can tell yourself that Kendrick wrote some incredible
>>verses for it, we're better off just getting those on
>>Kendrick's next album. Let Detox live on in our
>imaginations.
>
>I don't know if this is true. I haven't heard a great
>producer album in YEARS and Detox would be a great swan song
>for Dre. But, as we all can agree in, he can't just go
>through the motions, as he did with Kush, and he can't give us
>a sound we're not expecting with hopes of chart dominance (I
>Need A Doctor was REALLY bad).
>
>Now that the "don'ts" are out of the way:
>
>1. He DOES need to introduce us to a new rapper to feign over,
>like he did with Snoop on the Chronic and Hitman on Chronic
>2001. Detox would have been a great platform to introduce the
>world at large to Knedrick's skill and THEN have followed it
>up with GKMC, just like he did with The Chronic and
>Doggystyle. If that was the strategy, Kendrick would AT LEAST
>be double plat by now.
>
>2. He DOES need to once again redefine the sonic footprint of
>the commercial rap album once again like he did with Chronic
>2001.. I really think Detox would have been a great time to
>either do a SACD or Surround Sound version of his sound, just
>to once again set a precedent for all other so called super
>producers to strive to. If not that, at least a 24/96 version
>just to show how much more space it gives the mix.
>
>3. He DOES need to give us the hottest beats we've heard in
>FOREVER. Just because hip hop production has become stagnant
>with the dominance of trap.
>