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2656080, Millie Jackson was my first artist that i was told that is Grown folks music Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Jan-31-12 01:52 PM
looking forward to her Unsung next week and i remember the first time i heard Millie Jackson and i was quickly told Boy, turn that off, it ain't for your young ears to hear.
she was to R&B much like Pam Grier was to the film game back in the 70's nothing else like her then or now for that matter.
she was the real deal and i dug her and Isacc Hayes together. loved her honesty and humor.
She aired you out. She truly was a Black thang. i'll never forget her.
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2656085, http://www.mihamazzini.com/plosce/images/millie.jpg Posted by imcvspl, Tue Jan-31-12 02:02 PM
http://www.mihamazzini.com/plosce/images/millie.jpg ________ Big PEMFin H & z's █▆▇▅▇█▇▆▄▁▃ http://concretesoundsystem.com Mo'Nium - http://monium.tumblr.com/
"When the music stops he falls back into this abyss."
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2656097, I know what this is and I ain't clickin' Posted by OldPro, Tue Jan-31-12 02:23 PM
not sure which came first... my dislike for her act or "that" cover
either way I won't be unhappy I don't have TV One next Monday
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2656098, wow... Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Tue Jan-31-12 02:24 PM
I always smh'ed at that cover myself, but it looks like you were scandalized right down to the soul!
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2656099, Just hearing her voice used to annoy the shit outta me Posted by OldPro, Tue Jan-31-12 02:28 PM
Must have been the late 70s when they used to run one of those Ktel type commercials for her "best of" collection... I could be in the other room and I'd run in and change the channel just so I wouldn't have to hear her husky ass. What's wild is they'd run that thing right in the middle of cartoons and shit lol _________________________________ Reunion Radio Podcasts Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
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2656102, lol I know exactly what you mean. Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Tue Jan-31-12 02:32 PM
I didn't like her for a long time, either... She just seemed so... filthy to me. Not in a cool way, either. More like in a way that made you feel embarrassed, and embarrassed FOR her... and for everybody else listening to it!
But I came to appreciate her in the 90s... Not her 90s material... but I guess by then I had a better (worse?) mindset to start to "get" Caught Up and some of her other albums from the 70s. I phucks with her... up to a point!
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2656181, Perfect word Posted by OldPro, Tue Jan-31-12 04:30 PM
>I didn't like her for a long time, either... She just seemed >so... filthy to me. Not in a cool way, either. More like in a >way that made you feel embarrassed, and embarrassed FOR her... >and for everybody else listening to it!
Filthy
I'm cool
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2656117, the 70's? Posted by Artful Dodger, Tue Jan-31-12 03:02 PM
No snark, man I had no idea... I'm going to be picking your brain.. haha..
that's one reason I love Warren Coolidge, his first hand accounts are gold. Not to mention his writing style is always on point.
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2656118, uh... I was around in the 70s too Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Tue Jan-31-12 03:03 PM
(just for the record)
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2656136, POST JACK: (not millie) http://bit.ly/xp0Qyf Posted by imcvspl, Tue Jan-31-12 03:23 PM
http://bit.ly/xp0Qyf
That was the other bitch in my musical life. And she wasn't crazy... she was bad as shit
Need proof - http://bit.ly/Azo7OH ________ Big PEMFin H & z's █▆▇▅▇█▇▆▄▁▃ http://concretesoundsystem.com Mo'Nium - http://monium.tumblr.com/
"When the music stops he falls back into this abyss."
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2656138, I was never as much into her as I *wanted* to be Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Tue Jan-31-12 03:24 PM
"Woman of the Ghetto" is dope, though
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2656140, you ever hear that album? Posted by imcvspl, Tue Jan-31-12 03:27 PM
She basically hoeing at a bar on the first track. Shit was wild as fuck for my little mind. ________ Big PEMFin H & z's █▆▇▅▇█▇▆▄▁▃ http://concretesoundsystem.com Mo'Nium - http://monium.tumblr.com/
"When the music stops he falls back into this abyss."
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2656149, yeah lol Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Tue Jan-31-12 03:36 PM
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2656178, It Came Across A bit Awkward For Me,,, Posted by Harlepolis, Tue Jan-31-12 04:28 PM
This is the one moment of Marlena's musical career I didn't care for. Here this woman who has 'Southern Debutante' all over her demeanor come across like she's selling pussy pastries, c'mon. Yeah I know the skit is an act lol but idk, it didn't seem natural to me coming from Miss Shaw.
Other than that, great body of work, one of the BEST live performers ever, outrageous sense of humor, and one of the loyal students of the Dinah Washington school(who I'm a SUCKA for).
"Sweet Beginnings" will always be my FAVE album from her.
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2656288, I laughed so hard @ this reply Posted by Dr Claw, Tue Jan-31-12 08:47 PM
because I knew what it was before I clicked
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2656090, Yeah, Millie records were in the same category as Richard Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Tue Jan-31-12 02:06 PM
and Blowfly... I always wanted to listen to her because I thought she was one of the Jacksons, but she was scary to me too. Not just because of the "adult" nature of her songs but also because she was such a butterface lol
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2656145, Who was Blowfly's base? It seems like my parents and their friends Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Tue Jan-31-12 03:33 PM
never ever listened to him or paid any attention to him, but he influenced a lot of (West Coast) rappers
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2656151, Grown Black folk with a taste for the worldly. Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Tue Jan-31-12 03:37 PM
Same thing as Rudy Ray Moore and Swamp Dogg.
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2656184, There's A Documentary About Blowfly,,,, Posted by Harlepolis, Tue Jan-31-12 04:35 PM
I haven't seen it yet: http://youtu.be/8D8iFgGeP7g
It didn't dawn me that this was the same man who wrote the hits for so many of my fave artists. Its a shame though that most of what folks know from him are his "sexified parodies".
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2656183, Richard Who? NOT Little Richard? Posted by Harlepolis, Tue Jan-31-12 04:32 PM
And you guys don't like Millie?
A bunch of Prince of fans and you guys DON'T LIKE Millie?
C'mon now lol,,,,
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2656190, explain what one has to do with the other Posted by OldPro, Tue Jan-31-12 04:48 PM
>And you guys don't like Millie? > >A bunch of Prince of fans and you guys DON'T LIKE Millie? > >C'mon now lol,,,,
because as a prince fan him cussing and talking "nasty" wasn't why I became a fan _________________________________ Reunion Radio Podcasts Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
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2656193, I Know That, But I Always Hear Folks Being Turned Off By Her Because,, Posted by Harlepolis, Tue Jan-31-12 05:01 PM
Of her 'semi-prono' lyrics and the way she delivers them, when sex isn't really the WHOLE picture when you listen to her discography(even though its what made her notorious).
Yet, I see this argument in the org too(ironically), like folks are falling over themselves saying that he(Prince) somehow presented the "sex 101 on wax" in a way classier than her. I don't see the distinction.
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2656587, Well he never posed on a toilet Posted by OldPro, Wed Feb-01-12 01:25 PM
>Yet, I see this argument in the org too(ironically), like >folks are falling over themselves saying that he(Prince) >somehow presented the "sex 101 on wax" in a way classier than >her. I don't see the distinction.
so there's that
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2656592, lol @ classier Posted by Dr Claw, Wed Feb-01-12 01:33 PM
maybe if they said, "less trashy", then yes... Prince was a little more restrained to the point he'd catch you by surprise with something like his bit on "Let's Pretend We're Married". Or the whole "Head"/"Sister" 1-2 on Dirty Mind.
lol @ "Sister" to this day... that's probably the first instance of Perfect Troll Prince in recorded form.
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2657110, RE: explain what one has to do with the other Posted by Strangeways, Thu Feb-02-12 02:52 PM
Millie on the tiolet taking a dump on the front of the album cover...no, u come on now.....lol. I mean what the F***. who does that kind of stupid s***. Prince has never done anything like that so there is no comparison whatsoever,brother.
>>And you guys don't like Millie? >> >>A bunch of Prince of fans and you guys DON'T LIKE Millie? >> >>C'mon now lol,,,, > >because as a prince fan him cussing and talking "nasty" wasn't >why I became a fan >_________________________________ >Reunion Radio Podcasts >Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance > >http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/
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2656198, Pryor. Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Tue Jan-31-12 05:17 PM
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2656201, Doh lol,,, Posted by Harlepolis, Tue Jan-31-12 05:23 PM
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2656199, Pryor, Richard methinks Posted by Selah, Tue Jan-31-12 05:18 PM
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2656091, That's cause she cursed and used very nasty lyrics. Posted by Artful Dodger, Tue Jan-31-12 02:07 PM
she had some phat thighs tho... in all white.. whew...
Her and Betty Wright - same difference.
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2656202, It's VERY ironic that "Grown folks music" back then is complete 180 Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Tue Jan-31-12 05:24 PM
opposite of what it is now.
Now, it would be Anthony Hamilton, Jill Scott, and more of the Soul (we hate Neo Soul, right?) type of artists that cater to the older folks, but the content is very clean...rarely has cussing, isn't too descriptive. And the kids music is what's completely disgusting.
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2656208, That IS a weird reversal, isn't it? Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Tue Jan-31-12 05:31 PM
It's kinda like those kids of liberal hippies who grow up to become uptight Republicans because that's the only way to rebel against their free-living parents.
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2656218, I love live and uncensored Posted by revolution75, Tue Jan-31-12 05:39 PM
One of the best live records ever done IMHO Her studio material was pretty much hit or miss Much more miss than hit But her live shows were off the chain Her xxx shtick didn't bother me that much because I knew women who talked shit like that.
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2656219, definitely a one of kind artist.... Posted by Warren Coolidge, Tue Jan-31-12 05:46 PM
really looking forward to her unsung..
she pushed a lot of bounderies that no other female was pushing back then.
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2656320, i met her about 10 years ago... Posted by MISTA MONOTONE, Tue Jan-31-12 10:29 PM
i wasn't expecting her to be so nice & sweet based off of her persona...lol. shocked the shit out of me. i guess i expected her to yell "BE YOURSELF!!!" at me or something.
(yes...that's a Whodini reference. i'm old. sue me.)
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2656579, Literally laughed out loud reading that!!! Posted by revolution75, Wed Feb-01-12 12:59 PM
Still laughing as I type!!
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2656380, She was like Vanessa Del Rio to your Ears Posted by mistermaxxx08, Wed Feb-01-12 02:41 AM
and that was a wild time back in the late 70's. she was something else.
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2656538, RE: Millie Jackson was my first artist that i was told that is Grown folks music Posted by Strangeways, Wed Feb-01-12 11:47 AM
her song "if you aint back in love by monday" is such a funeral song.....it drags and its so sad.....everything about that song sounds like something that would be played at a funeral....I had that song on a super hits on one of those truck stop 8 tracks and I gave it to a thrift store because of that song "if you aint back in love by monday".....having "if you aint back in love by monday" on a that super hits 8 track ruined that entire playlist for me so I had to get rid of it.
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2656672, good song, thanks Posted by howisya, Wed Feb-01-12 03:54 PM
i love your posts
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2656539, RE: Millie Jackson was my first artist that i was told that is Grown folks music Posted by Strangeways, Wed Feb-01-12 11:48 AM
I also saw the video for young man, older woman and that song was garbage.....I understood the message that she was trying to get across but it was FORGETTABLE...
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2656544, RE: Millie Jackson was my first artist that i was told that is Grown folks music Posted by Strangeways, Wed Feb-01-12 11:54 AM
The first millie jackson album cover that I ever remember seeing for the first time was one called when the sh** comes out with her on the toilet taking a dump on the front of the album cover....TASTELESS AND GARBAGE....LOL....I see why she never crossed over and was never mainstream....LOL
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2656558, lmao, they linked that at the top of the thread Posted by Dr Claw, Wed Feb-01-12 12:23 PM
>The first millie jackson album cover that I ever remember >seeing for the first time was one called when the sh** comes >out with her on the toilet taking a dump on the front of the >album cover....TASTELESS AND GARBAGE....LOL....I see why she >never crossed over and was never mainstream....LOL
I believe... if you know the name "Millie Jackson" and what it means, THAT image will come to mind.
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2656597, RE: lmao, they linked that at the top of the thread Posted by Strangeways, Wed Feb-01-12 01:39 PM
in most of her songs that ive heard....she always sounded like she had a cold or something......lol
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2656575, LOL, it's not called that... Posted by Jakob Hellberg, Wed Feb-01-12 12:47 PM
It's called ''Back to the shit". "When the shit comes out" would have been funny though.
I have two of her records, "Caught up" and "Still caught up" and they are great and tasteful 70's soul. While she tackles adult subject matter like sex and infidelity, it's done in a tasteful manner IMO-I have purposedly avoided her tackier/sleazier stuff...
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2656593, RE: LOL, it's not called that... Posted by Strangeways, Wed Feb-01-12 01:35 PM
with those titles....she sounded like a straight up whore....
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2656722, LMAOOOOO @ "When the shit comes out" hahaahhaha Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Wed Feb-01-12 05:28 PM
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2774706, cross-post Posted by howisya, Fri Feb-01-13 03:12 PM
>The first millie jackson album cover that I ever remember >seeing for the first time was one called when the sh** comes >out with her on the toilet taking a dump on the front of the >album cover....TASTELESS AND GARBAGE....LOL....I see why she >never crossed over and was never mainstream....LOL
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2774465&mesg_id=2774465&page=#2774588
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2656683, I think I was slightly traumatized when I saw her album w/her sitting Posted by vee-lover, Wed Feb-01-12 04:11 PM
on the toilet...
it was so outta the box at the time for any album cover, but especially for a woman
she was the QUEEN of raunchinesss:-)
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2656794, Millie and her live band was the shit! Posted by Record Playa, Wed Feb-01-12 08:54 PM
Tilt - Arcade Funk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPtLcEoyxKY
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2656943, They were no joke!!! Posted by revolution75, Thu Feb-02-12 10:35 AM
The AL-shun band Especially in 79 I pray to see footage from her live and uncredited record on this ep
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2657095, Millie Jackson was good, she had some Gladys Knight flavor Posted by mr_graff, Thu Feb-02-12 02:43 PM
The albums she made before she started playing up her "nasty" image are solid.
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2669465, RE: Millie Jackson was my first artist that i was told that is Grown folks music Posted by Strangeways, Thu Mar-01-12 09:21 PM
I received some tixs to see millie jackson at the atlanta blues festival this coming saturday but im trying to sell them. I tried listening to her music on youtube and i turned it off especially her feeling bitchy song and she ruined Prince's I wanna be your lover....she sounded like she had a bad COLD. I was laughing my butt off at her version of I wanna be your lover especially with the notes she was trying to reach.
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2774801, It hurts so good-what a great album... Posted by Jakob Hellberg, Fri Feb-01-13 09:14 PM
That is SOUL music. Seriously, if you view Millie as a philty whore, listen to that record-so dope...
And even ''feelin bitchy''-which has millie more in ''nasty'' mode-is dope as well...
Actually, since this post was made, I have listened to and bought a bunch of millie-albums and while I understand the criticisms, she has made enough dope, non-gimmicky music to get a pass IMO...
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2774853, grown folks music indeed... Posted by Jakob Hellberg, Sat Feb-02-13 02:39 AM
How can teenagers relate to this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMBqppmw9oY
Powerful shit...
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