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"NBA Offseason Shenanigans Post"
Tue Jun-03-25 11:19 AM by Dstl1

          

Comings/goings…rumors of comings/goings…put it here.

Off top…Suns “aggressively” shopping KD. They have lowered the asking price and would like to move him before the draft.

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Let the races begin
Jun 03rd 2025
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The knee-jerk timing makes it seem like a decision Dolan would make
Jun 03rd 2025
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I'm assuming the front office
Jun 03rd 2025
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      Gotta be Mike Malone
Jun 03rd 2025
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           He runs his starters into the ground just like Thibs does
Jun 04th 2025
11
had my gripes with Thibs....
Jun 03rd 2025
6
if the pistons bite on KD im gonna lose my shit
Jun 03rd 2025
2
KD is a negative for any young team...surly, only cares about himself
Jun 03rd 2025
8
      basis for "not wanting to win"?
Jun 04th 2025
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           ...not winning?
Jun 04th 2025
10
                not winning what?
Jun 04th 2025
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                     anything when not playing with Steph Curry?
Jun 04th 2025
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                     outside of KD and Book, are the Suns any good?
Jun 04th 2025
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                          I wouldn't go as far as saying he doesn't care about winning
Jun 04th 2025
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                          RE: I wouldn't go as far as saying he doesn't care about winning
Jun 04th 2025
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                               its HIS job to turn "on paper" into wins!!
Jun 04th 2025
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                               RE: I wouldn't go as far as saying he doesn't care about winning
Jun 04th 2025
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                                    Here's the part where I reiterate that KD never should have left the...
Jun 04th 2025
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                                         hes still gonna be on THE all time list
Jun 04th 2025
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                                              ding ding ding ding.
Jun 04th 2025
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                                                   if hes not that, then hes not top 15 either
Jun 05th 2025
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                                                        wait, so you ARE saying he doesn't play to win?
Jun 05th 2025
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                                                        im saying he doesnt know how
Jun 05th 2025
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                                                             Lol. Show him the way, chief.
Jun 05th 2025
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                                                                  im not a chef either, but i know when its too salty
Jun 05th 2025
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                                                        He’s played 170 playoff games
Jun 05th 2025
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                                                             Very obviously correct.
Jun 18th 2025
35
                          if his presence doesnt make someone a contender
Jun 04th 2025
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                               that isn't fair though
Jun 04th 2025
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                                    Can we consider that maybe KD WAS an all time great?
Jun 04th 2025
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                                    Can I get some of your drugs?
Jun 04th 2025
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                                    I think it's hard to leave KD out of the top 20/25
Jun 04th 2025
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                                    Nailed it
Jul 02nd 2025
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                     hes a top 15 player of all time, but doesnt help the pistons NOW
Jun 05th 2025
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reality of the new CBA: Everyone is going to Hell via the Apron
Jun 17th 2025
34
Kevin Durant to Houston for Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, draft picks
Jun 22nd 2025
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i wouldnt have given them jalen green straight up
Jun 22nd 2025
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Dude is 36 yrs old....
Jun 22nd 2025
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      Jalen Green isn't a great basketball player. What did they lose?
Jun 23rd 2025
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           right? do i want my #1 scorer to be KD, or do i want it to be Jalen Gree...
Jun 23rd 2025
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                depends whether or not i care about more than next year
Jun 24th 2025
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                     Green is fools gold so yeah losing Brooks hurts more if you are trying
Jun 24th 2025
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                          yeah, i don't see the drawback here.
Jun 24th 2025
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                          they already were a top level team
Jun 25th 2025
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                               Yea , the KD obsession is out of control lol
Jun 26th 2025
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                                    I don't see any further development for Jalen Green as a hooper
Jul 06th 2025
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                                         thats extremely unlikely
Jul 06th 2025
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                                         Yeah Houston’s offense totally stagnated when it mattered
Jul 08th 2025
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                                              update?
Apr 25th 2026
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No one posted about the Desmond Bane trade?
Jun 23rd 2025
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thats exactly what he brings
Jun 23rd 2025
42
Celtics trade Jrue Holiday to the Blazers
Jun 24th 2025
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In addition, the Celts current owners are relatively new, no?
Jun 24th 2025
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      Sold a few months ago but don’t officially take over till like 2028
Jun 24th 2025
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           RE: Sold a few months ago but don’t officially take over till like 202...
Jun 24th 2025
46
Zingis to Atlanta
Jun 26th 2025
51
Big Big news; Raptors getting rid of Ujiri
Jun 27th 2025
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knicks contacted Dawn for head coach
Jun 29th 2025
54
LOL the knicks really made a mess of this
Jun 29th 2025
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pretend Dawn was a man coaching MBB
Jun 30th 2025
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It's insane that they canned Thibs without a plan.
Jun 30th 2025
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      Corrected your post for the sake of accuracy
Jun 30th 2025
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           Sure, though once you've run the show for over a quarter century...
Jun 30th 2025
61
Somewhat of a surprising move by the Timberwolves
Jun 30th 2025
57
Pelinka - DO SOMETHING, MAN
Jun 30th 2025
60
lakers are so unserious right now.
Jul 01st 2025
69
Malik Beasley under investigation for gambling on himself
Jul 01st 2025
62
Pistons scooped up Caris Levert at 12:01 😂
Jul 01st 2025
63
      Huge downgrade, letting Schroeder go was stupid as hell too
Jul 01st 2025
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           thats not the real math tho
Jul 01st 2025
67
                Levert is just a guy, and Robinson is just whtaver now
Jul 01st 2025
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                     i agree about Schroeder
Jul 02nd 2025
70
                          I feel better about these moves after sleeping on it
Jul 02nd 2025
73
                               a veteran big for sure
Jul 06th 2025
78
Shams: Bucks waiving Lillard
Jul 01st 2025
64
They signed Turner.
Jul 01st 2025
65
Hornets were determined to draft a white dude from Duke.. lol
Jul 02nd 2025
71
It appears the Knicks are going to hire Mike Brown
Jul 02nd 2025
72
Cam Whitmore for two Swisher Sweets...
Jul 06th 2025
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there just wasnt an opportunity for Cam there
Jul 06th 2025
76
That's also just who Cam is.
Jul 06th 2025
80
I like the fresh start for Whitmore, wish it wasn't with the raggedy Wiz
Jul 07th 2025
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      Didn't mean to reply here
Aug 22nd 2025
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Attorneys: Malik Beasley no longer target of gambling probe
Aug 22nd 2025
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what a mess
Aug 22nd 2025
85
Pablo Torre did a whole podcast episode about this
Aug 25th 2025
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the idea that what they've said = clear of any wrong doing
Aug 26th 2025
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      beyond the sense that we are all sinners
Aug 26th 2025
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           “It is not fair to characterize him as being broke,”
Aug 27th 2025
89
Goddamn this board is dead. No Kawhi post??
Sep 07th 2025
90
Pablo Torres' episode on this was good
Sep 08th 2025
91
country being in th midst of fascism induced decline cant help lol
Sep 13th 2025
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that last certificate expiration was a killer
Sep 13th 2025
93
new Pablo Torre ep -- Sept 18
Sep 18th 2025
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Finally caught up on this
Oct 17th 2025
95

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1. "Let the races begin"
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According to a post I just saw from Shams, the Knicks are firing Thibs.

I'm a little surprised, but he certainly had his flaws as a head coach. If memory serves me correct, he only has two more years left on his current contact, so it won't cost the Knicks too much in that regard.

Castro, I'm assuming you're somewhere going the Dance of Joy from Perfect Strangers right now.

I'm very very curious now what else Leon Rose has in store in terms of roster reconstruction.

I also wonder if this was ordered by Dolan or not.

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4. "The knee-jerk timing makes it seem like a decision Dolan would make"
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While it appears Thibs' coaching style has flaws, he has brought three franchises back to relevance. Despite the god-awful amount of minutes he plays his players, they all like playing for him and they mostly avoid major injuries. His offenses aren't pretty, but he consistently makes the playoffs.

I see why pundits and fans think he should change things up because it seems those minor (or at least seemingly minor) changes could make the difference between a good and a great coach. However, he's had a lot of success with teams, usually with lesser talent.

I guess it depends on who they bring in. I'm not sure Malone is the answer. He seems more like a lateral move. The offense might get better, but those Denver teams were never better than mediocre on defense.

Mike Brown would be interesting. I'd rather not see Coach Bud. Maybe Vogel? He's won a title and is used to coaching in a major market.

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5. "I'm assuming the front office"
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already have their mind set on who will be the replacement given how quick the firing was.

I'd prefer Johnnie Bryant, but I'm assuming that'll be slim to nil.

Interesting to see first Randle and now Thibs leaving the franchise given how both people helped the Knicks in recent years improve drastically. Unfortunately, both dudes definitely have the relative ceilings and limitations in terms of getting to that championship level.

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7. "Gotta be Mike Malone"
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Queens get the money

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11. "He runs his starters into the ground just like Thibs does"
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That would be a mistake IMO, but I do think the front office will more than likely go with a re-tread, so there is a possibility Mike Malone will get the nod.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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6. "had my gripes with Thibs...."
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now that he's out, not so sure how I feel.

It was wild that he completely changed his whole rotation strategy during the Indiana series....felt like he should have been giving the bench more minutes throughout the whole season.

If he continued to made some adjustments like that, could have seen him continuing this momentum into the next season.

he wasn't perfect....but Knicks have had a long history of shitty coaches, so a bit nervous for what the alternative will be.


could be down with Jeff Van Gundy coming back as coach

  

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2. "if the pistons bite on KD im gonna lose my shit"
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thankfully Zion recused himself from that discussion

not since the Red Wings of the late 90s have I had LESS desire for one of my teams to make a major move than I do for these pistons.

bench big, bench frontcourt scorer, fin

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8. "KD is a negative for any young team...surly, only cares about himself"
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doesnt want to win, just wants to collect his 25 10 and 5 and argue under his burner accounts



>thankfully Zion recused himself from that discussion
>
>not since the Red Wings of the late 90s have I had LESS desire
>for one of my teams to make a major move than I do for these
>pistons.
>
>bench big, bench frontcourt scorer, fin
>
>

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9. "basis for "not wanting to win"?"
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10. "...not winning?"
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gotta admit that KD has been given a pass few other players of his caliber have enjoyed

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12. "not winning what?"
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hes a multiple time champ, scoring champ, mvp, finals mvp, etc.

i think saying KD doesn't care about winning is hilarious.

he's been bit by the injury bug since he left Golden State, and he's been on a couple teams (Brooklyn and Phoenix) that were good at best (far from great) that are gonna struggle to succeed if he's not playing every night (which he wasn't).

so....what are we talking about?

  

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13. "anything when not playing with Steph Curry?"
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>hes a multiple time champ, mvp,

they won without him before he got there, and they won without him after he left

>i think saying KD doesn't care about winning is hilarious.

i mean, its been 6 years of drama, and a Finals team got worse when he showed up

>he's been bit by the injury bug since he left Golden State,
>and he's been on a couple teams (Brooklyn and Phoenix) that
>were good at best (far from great) that are gonna struggle to
>succeed if he's not playing every night (which he wasn't).

he was on the court when his team got swept in the first round 2 of the last 3 seasons, and the Suns finished with 36 wins when he played 62 games. pretty sure they didnt go 36-26 in those games.

if he was Lebron id be flame broiling his ass, so im now realizing even *I* give him a pass

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14. "outside of KD and Book, are the Suns any good?"
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OMG, KD won rings on a good, championship caliber team! what a novel concept.

you think the Nets or the Suns were title contenders? LOL.

what you can "blame" KD for perhaps is making some bad career moves.

but saying he doesn't CARE about winning when dude cried on camera about his love of basketball and will use up time out of his day when he could but doing rich shit to argue online with a guy in Nebraska who has Dorito crumbs in his belly button? FOH.

  

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15. "I wouldn't go as far as saying he doesn't care about winning"
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But this is an absurd level of excuse-making for KD's last few years.

>
>you think the Nets or the Suns were title contenders? LOL.

What??? The Nets were title contenders and the Suns should have been. Saying otherwise is revisionist history. Even accounting for injuries and whatnot these are 2 of the most disappointing teams in this century, if not ever.

  

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16. "RE: I wouldn't go as far as saying he doesn't care about winning"
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^^^^

well that's what's being said.

>What??? The Nets were title contenders and the Suns should
>have been. Saying otherwise is revisionist history. Even
>accounting for injuries and whatnot these are 2 of the most
>disappointing teams in this century, if not ever.

i guess people would make that argument on paper at the start of the year, but once you see a team on the COURT? you can tell the Suns FOR SURE were not that team, this year or LAST. Nets had a better argument and then, KD's toe and they lost the Buck who won it all IIRC.

and yeah, injuries matter. you might end up, as the Suns did last year, in the 6 spot playing a WCF team that is/was better. now, if they are healthy? maybe they are the 3rd or 4th seed w/ a first round home series? i dunno but you can't just shoo away injuries, lol (not saying you are but you kinda are).

i'm disappointed by KD's last few years FOR SURE, but this all started off saying "KD doesn't care about winning" or whatever and that's just a dumb thing to say IMO.

  

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18. "its HIS job to turn "on paper" into wins!!"
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"i guess people would make that argument on paper at the start of the year, but once you see a team on the COURT? you can tell the Suns FOR SURE were not that team, this year or LAST."

i feel like im in the twilight zone where its anyone else's fault EXCEPT their best and most highly paid player who was in the news a lot, and not always for what happened on the court

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19. "RE: I wouldn't go as far as saying he doesn't care about winning"
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>
>i guess people would make that argument on paper at the start
>of the year, but once you see a team on the COURT? you can
>tell the Suns FOR SURE were not that team, this year or LAST.


It wasn't just injuries that made them not that team, it was also an awful team culture, which KD was partly responsible for.


>Nets had a better argument and then, KD's toe and they lost
>the Buck who won it all IIRC.

They followed up that season with getting swept in the first round twice in a row. And yes, injuries played a big part, but so did an awful team culture, which KD was partly responsible for.


i dunno but you can't
>just shoo away injuries, lol (not saying you are but you kinda
>are).

by the same token, you can't shoo away all expectations just cause injuries happen. there's no excuse for a team as talented as the Suns, with a payroll that rivals NASA's budget, not even making the play-in. And yet, I think he's been mostly shielded from criticism for the failures of these teams cause he's got those Warriors rings. He certainly didn't take as much heat as Kyrie and Harden for the Nets' failures.

  

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20. "Here's the part where I reiterate that KD never should have left the..."
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...Warriors. Again, when his career ends, he'll say he never should have left OKC, but he'll know he should have never left the Bay.

I don't like playing "What if...?" games, but there's no reason to believe that they would stop winning once he healed from the injury that kept him out of 2020. And Curry would have likely have kept being content playing the Robin role. And now we'd probably be debating how high KD ranks on the all-time list.

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25. "hes still gonna be on THE all time list"
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just not very high. hard to see any leadership at all outside of the quality of his play, which is at worst, consistently very good. he even appears to be a very good human being.

but despite that, his teams just shuffle along because he has no ability whatsoever to rally the troops.

i dont actually think he doesnt care about winning, but i also think he is completely unsuitable for leading a winning team. he can clearly be the best player on a champion, but spiritually its gotta be someone else's team.

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26. "ding ding ding ding."
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but i also
>think he is completely unsuitable for leading a winning team.
>he can clearly be the best player on a champion, but
>spiritually its gotta be someone else's team.

complaining about him not being a leader on PHX and BKN? he's NOT THAT. he's never been that. he wasn't that in OKC or GSW. some people want him to be something he's not. everyone isn't Michael Jordan.

that doesn't necessarily make him a bad teammate, either.

he's still a top 15 player all time, right now (i say "right now" as those lists change over time).

  

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28. "if hes not that, then hes not top 15 either"
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to win

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29. "wait, so you ARE saying he doesn't play to win?"
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31. "im saying he doesnt know how"
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32. "Lol. Show him the way, chief."
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33. "im not a chef either, but i know when its too salty"
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30. "He’s played 170 playoff games"
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which is 27th on the all time list, and some of the guys with more were role players like Ainge, Scott, Fisher, and Horry.

Hard to say that a guy who has won 2 titles, and has pretty much always been in the playoffs and made some other deep runs, isn’t affecting winning.

Pre-Achilles his teams were always contenders.

  

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35. "Very obviously correct."
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The guy made the WCF at 22, Finals at 23, WCF again at 25. He had foot surgery at 26... and was back in the WCF at 27. It's ridiculous to suggest he's not a winner. He's just not a better winner than the guys he lost to from 23 on-- Bron, Tim Duncan, Steph. That's okay! And yes, post-Achilles, he was never quite the same player outside of his offensive output. Which means he'll never be a Top 10 guy. Again, okay! Still very much a winning player and one of the very best players of my lifetime.

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17. "if his presence doesnt make someone a contender"
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then theres definitely no point in having a conversation about 7 foot Mitch Richmond at all

because hes either good enough to not get swept out of the first round multiple times, yet did anyways, for....reasons.

or hes not, and its all moot. but it cant be both depending on whichever one casts him in the best light within the context

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21. "that isn't fair though"
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If Mitch Richmond had been 7', he would have definitely turned teams into contenders.


I can't believe anyone could fix their fingers to defend KD at this point.


There is plenty of data now that he is just a weirdo loser who just happens to be a physical specimen with a wet j.


He isn't cracking any serious person's top...name any reasonable number. 20, 30, 50.

He ain't that. Plenty of evidence.

  

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22. "Can we consider that maybe KD WAS an all time great?"
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>
>If Mitch Richmond had been 7', he would have definitely turned
>teams into contenders.
>
>
>I can't believe anyone could fix their fingers to defend KD at
>this point.
>
>
>There is plenty of data now that he is just a weirdo loser who
>just happens to be a physical specimen with a wet j.
>
>
>He isn't cracking any serious person's top...name any
>reasonable number. 20, 30, 50.
>
>He ain't that. Plenty of evidence.

When he was in his 20’s he was a perennial first team All NBA guy who won championships in GS and had OKC as a contender.

He tore his achilles, got older, and in his 30’s has been an often injured guy who still scores a lot of points and is all star caliber, but is past his prime.

He was a top 3-5 player in the league for a decade.

  

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23. "Can I get some of your drugs?"
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>He isn't cracking any serious person's top...name any
>reasonable number. 20, 30, 50.
>
>He ain't that. Plenty of evidence.
>
>

  

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24. "I think it's hard to leave KD out of the top 20/25"
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Actually think he makes a strong case to be in the Hakeem/Giannis/Kawhi tier - maybe even higher - both because of his longevity and just flat-out being one of *the* very best volume scorers the game has ever seen. I do think he gets docked a bit for the GSW era rings, but they're still rings (with 2 finals MVPs to boast). But it was just too easy to win those rings with makeup of that team; low degree of difficulty.

I think it's fair to say KD has exceeded expectations when he first got drafted to Seattle, becoming one of the all-time greats. Worthy rival to all the top guys in his era and bonafide MVP caliber for many years. Also felt like his legacy upped a notch with his Olympic performance. He was the glue to that team in a lot of the big moments, contributed and played clutch when it mattered most.

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74. "Nailed it "
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>
>If Mitch Richmond had been 7', he would have definitely turned
>teams into contenders.
>
>
>I can't believe anyone could fix their fingers to defend KD at
>this point.
>
>
>There is plenty of data now that he is just a weirdo loser who
>just happens to be a physical specimen with a wet j.
>
>
>He isn't cracking any serious person's top...name any
>reasonable number. 20, 30, 50.
>
>He ain't that. Plenty of evidence.
>
>

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27. "hes a top 15 player of all time, but doesnt help the pistons NOW"
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I was courtside for this entire stint with the nets...Season ticket holder for that 3 year stretch

He was a whiny spineless bitch who danced to the tune of Kyrie's flute and refused to take the reins of leadership despite being the most accomplished on that team.

urged the front office to get rid of Kenny Atkinson for Steve Nash

put pressure on marks to get rid of jarret allen for deandre jordans old ass

Just an absolute dumpster grease garbage fire

and this has carried over to Phoenix.

There is a reason why his asking price has crashed considerably and the Suns are now shopping him for cheap

damaged goods and far more likely to be a negative influence on a young rising team than a positive, especially if his minutes / numbers dwindle


i think he's mentally checked out , if he leads his new team deep into the playoffs ill take my L (he doesnt even have to win a ring)



>hes a multiple time champ, scoring champ, mvp, finals mvp,
>etc.
>
>i think saying KD doesn't care about winning is hilarious.
>
>he's been bit by the injury bug since he left Golden State,
>and he's been on a couple teams (Brooklyn and Phoenix) that
>were good at best (far from great) that are gonna struggle to
>succeed if he's not playing every night (which he wasn't).
>
>so....what are we talking about?

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34. "reality of the new CBA: Everyone is going to Hell via the Apron"
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except OKC.

They will be affected the least.

This Bane trade makes the Mikal Bridges trade to the Knicks look like the Jarrett Allen trade to the Cavs.

Breh.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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36. "Kevin Durant to Houston for Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, draft picks"
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>Comings/goings…rumors of comings/goings…put it here.
>
>Off top…Suns “aggressively” shopping KD. They have
>lowered the asking price and would like to move him before the
>draft.




The Phoenix Suns are trading Durant to the Houston Rockets, in exchange for Jalen Green and Dillon Brooks, per ESPN's Shams Charania. Phoenix also receives the No. 10 pick in the 2025 draft and five second-round picks as part of the trade.



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37. "i wouldnt have given them jalen green straight up "
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much less all of that other shit

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38. "Dude is 36 yrs old...."
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You have a very very good young team, why would you give all of that up for a 36 yr old? With all their assets they could have had a similar young path as the Thunder. Suns definitely win this trade.

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40. "Jalen Green isn't a great basketball player. What did they lose?"
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>You have a very very good young team, why would you give all
>of that up for a 36 yr old? With all their assets they could
>have had a similar young path as the Thunder. Suns definitely
>win this trade.

You HAVE to get rid of players like him if you want to win.
He shoots 42%. He's athletic and flashy enough to get attention, but his game isn't going to grow. Bradley Blah shot 49%....

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41. "right? do i want my #1 scorer to be KD, or do i want it to be Jalen Gree..."
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idc if KD is 36.

i pick KD every time.

he's a better player in every way. he's just old which is the ONLY thing Green has on him - age.

he's gonna be the #1 option in Houston whereas the Suns were Booker's team (which was part of their problem).

  

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47. "depends whether or not i care about more than next year"
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KD is no longer the kind of guy where you just GET him and figure the rest out later

Green/Sengun/Amen was a core to grow with and add to for the next 5-7 years. this roster with Durant isnt winning a championship, and you dont have 2 years to build around him until it can. also dont really have that much to bargain with after sending off all those picks, except for one one lingering brooklyn pick swap in 2 years.

not only that, they're bringing in a guy with zero intangibles and sending off a guy that Fred van Vleet is crediting with changing the culture, and was also their best 3 point shooter. Now there is Durant, FvV, and a bunch of guys who cant rent a car yet. that would concern me if i were a Rockets fan.

hope they sell a bunch of tickets bc i dont see the point in this.

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48. "Green is fools gold so yeah losing Brooks hurts more if you are trying"
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to build a high level team.
Still sounds like a win for Houston to me though. Durant sinks a higher clip of 3's at a higher percentage than Brooks.

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49. "yeah, i don't see the drawback here."
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KD, Sengun, Thompson is a WAY better team than Green, Sengun, Thompson.

Shit, at the rate this is going, barring major injury, KD gonna play past 40, and his game is always gonna be pretty effective. In 3 years he might still be better than Green.

Losing Brooks hurts them defensively, but KD is also a WAY better defender than Green, so...sort of just depends on what Houston can continue to add around the main guys.

  

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50. "they already were a top level team"
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they had the 4th best record in the league

finished 9 spots and 16 games ahead of what Durant could muster up

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52. "Yea , the KD obsession is out of control lol"
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>they had the 4th best record in the league
>
>finished 9 spots and 16 games ahead of what Durant could
>muster up


Houston pulled the plug way too early

Giving up on Jalen Green after one (very bad) playoff appearance is dumb as hell, the Turk was inconsistent and the twin still wet behind the ears too

If / when kd gets hurt they’re going to regret it

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77. "I don't see any further development for Jalen Green as a hooper"
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>>they had the 4th best record in the league
>>
>>finished 9 spots and 16 games ahead of what Durant could
>>muster up
>
>
>Houston pulled the plug way too early
>
>Giving up on Jalen Green after one (very bad) playoff
>appearance is dumb as hell, the Turk was inconsistent and the
>twin still wet behind the ears too
>
>If / when kd gets hurt they’re going to regret it

Folks mentioning him like he's a real factor I guess we will just wait and see.
What's with these terms like "KD obsession".
Why can't OKP's stand on their square without the slick little shots? I can't relate at all when folks don't communicate that way face to face.

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79. "thats extremely unlikely"
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leading scorer on a 52 win team at 22 years old isnt usually a plateau

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82. "Yeah Houston’s offense totally stagnated when it mattered "
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Because the Green went missing in more playoff games than not

You swap KD in for Green and it’s a far scarier team. These clowns talking like KD is washed lol

This will age beautifully

  

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96. "update?"
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39. "No one posted about the Desmond Bane trade?"
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Hilarious that no one cared about that trade despite the large number of pieces the Magic gave up.

Headscratcher of a trade for sure since that Bane doesn't provide the Magic with that I think they need to improve, which is reliable outside shooting.

Have to wonder what other big moves will be made this offseason.

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42. "thats exactly what he brings "
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hes such a good fit that i actually dont think this trade was lopsided at all

hes a career 41% guy on a ton of attempts, and he'll never be responsible for guarding anyone's best player

expensive, no question. but i think that just might be the price for a guy like that.

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43. "Celtics trade Jrue Holiday to the Blazers "
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For Anfernee Simons and 2 second round picks. Obviously sad to see Jrue go, but this is a no-brainer given the Celtics current salary cap situation and Jrue’s contract/age.

  

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44. "In addition, the Celts current owners are relatively new, no?"
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I thought I vaguely heard info of the team being sold a year or two ago.

Pretty much a no brainer for new ownership looking to cut back on costs and look to avoid luxury tax hell since they won't be in title contention in the short term.

The owners that sold the team right when they won that ring two seasons ago are looking like geniuses right about now; wonder how much pure profit they made.

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45. "Sold a few months ago but don’t officially take over till like 2028"
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>I thought I vaguely heard info of the team being sold a year
>or two ago.
>

I imagine they do have a say in matters already. Either way, under the current CBA any owner would make this move. I’m curious to see what happens with the next CBA cause it feels like everyone except the bottom feeder teams are running into tax issues or will be soon. I don’t see how this level of parity is sustainable.

>
>The owners that sold the team right when they won that ring
>two seasons ago are looking like geniuses right about now;
>wonder how much pure profit they made.

We won it last year! Goddamn… trying to push our accomplishments back in time.

  

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46. "RE: Sold a few months ago but don’t officially take over till like 202..."
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>>I thought I vaguely heard info of the team being sold a
>year
>>or two ago.
>>
>
>I imagine they do have a say in matters already. Either way,
>under the current CBA any owner would make this move. I’m
>curious to see what happens with the next CBA cause it feels
>like everyone except the bottom feeder teams are running into
>tax issues or will be soon. I don’t see how this level of
>parity is sustainable.


Interesting tidbit about the new owners not getting ownership until that long down the line. That's a crazy amount of time to wait to officially get full control of the team. Have to wonder what the team will look like in three years.

I assumed the majority of owners from middle to smaller market teams are loving this current CBA since it'll limit teams from creating dynasties. I do question why CJ McCollum as the player's rep would agree to this apron laden CBA since it's seemingly making owners think twice in terms of giving out max contracts.

Almost fitting that McCollum got traded today to the bottom dwelling Wizards in what I think was a cost-cutting move from the Wizards front office to avoid Jordan Poole's contact.

>>The owners that sold the team right when they won that ring
>>two seasons ago are looking like geniuses right about now;
>>wonder how much pure profit they made.
>
>We won it last year! Goddamn… trying to push our
>accomplishments back in time.

That exclamation mark felt quite genuine.

And that Celts title was two seasons ago since the most recent season is technically over, but point well made.

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51. "Zingis to Atlanta"
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I thought that ATL would go after Ayton, but Zingis is just as fitting

Trae/Dyson/Zacch/Jalen/Zingis

could be an annoying starting 5 if Patient Zero Super COVID Zingis holds up

Good because Okongwu doesn't have to be their lone big.

"Project Dybantsa" is heating up in Boston

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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53. "Big Big news; Raptors getting rid of Ujiri"
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link: https://www.nba.com/news/raptors-part-ways-masai-ujiri

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Raptors part ways with team president Masai Ujiri
Masai Ujiri had been with the team for 13 seasons and helped lead the team to the NBA title in 2019.

Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment announced Friday that the company has parted ways with Toronto Raptors president and vice-chairman Masai Ujiri.

“During his 13 seasons with the Raptors, Masai has helped transform the organization on the court and has been an inspirational leader off it,” said MLSE President & CEO Keith Pelley. “He brought an NBA Championship to Toronto and urged us to believe in this city, and ourselves. We are grateful for all he has done and wish him and his family the very best. As we plan for the franchise’s future, and its return to the NBA Playoffs, a search for the successor as president of the Raptors, led by CAA Executive Search, will begin immediately.”

As the search for a new team president commences, Raptors front office leadership remains in place with extensions for key personnel including general manager Bobby Webster. Per team policy, terms of the deals will not be released.

“We are confident that the Raptors organization, under the guidance of Bobby and his team, is in a great place,” Pelley said. “They have a plan in place for next season and beyond as the team continues its rebuild, and we have confidence in their ability to execute and ultimately, to excel. We feel the team is in a strong, stable place, and we believe the addition of a new president will continue to move the Raptors forward, towards our next NBA championship.”

Ujiri was named president of the Raptors in 2013, joining the team from the Denver Nuggets. Under his leadership, the Raptors won the 2019 NBA Championship, the first and only team outside the United States to do so. He is also co-founder of Giants of Africa, an organization which uses sport as a tool to enrich the lives of youth on the continent and encourage them to dream big.

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54. "knicks contacted Dawn for head coach"
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https://sports.yahoo.com/article/knicks-reportedly-reached-dawn-staley-082959940.html

According to league sources, both Taylor Jenkins and Mike Brown are headed for a second round of interviews. Micah Nori is still being considered. The Knicks have also reached out to South Carolina HC Dawn Staley about the job."

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55. "LOL the knicks really made a mess of this"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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56. "pretend Dawn was a man coaching MBB"
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still makes no sense. her teams are defensive monsters that rebound and play mediocre offense; she is also a "tough love" coach with her players...how is that a big change from Thibs?

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58. "It's insane that they canned Thibs without a plan."
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Classic Knicks.

More Christmas movies coming in 2025...

  

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59. "Corrected your post for the sake of accuracy"
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>Classic Dolan.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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61. "Sure, though once you've run the show for over a quarter century..."
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... we're definitely reaching "this is just who they are now" status. When I was growing up, there were songs they played on the local oldie station that came out closer to my childhood than we currently are to the pre-Dolan years.

But point taken, lol.

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57. "Somewhat of a surprising move by the Timberwolves"
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Apparently they are going to keep both Naz Reid and Julius Randle; Reid is supposedly getting a five year deal and Randle is getting a three year deal. I forget if Randle's third year is a player option or not.

I'm a bit surprised since Reid and Randle didn't mesh all that well from what I saw from the Timberwolves. I suppose the fact Randle's deal is only for $100 million means he can still be traded if things don't work out long term.

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60. "Pelinka - DO SOMETHING, MAN"
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69. "lakers are so unserious right now."
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rumors include 3-4 street clothes centers.

I've been hearing Ayton, Williams, some dude from Orlando, and Horford.


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62. "Malik Beasley under investigation for gambling on himself "
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3 year 42 mill extension was in discussion w Pistons , now it’s on hold

Yikes, all bad

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45608949/sources-pistons-malik-beasley-subject-federal-gambling-probe








>Comings/goings…rumors of comings/goings…put it here.
>
>Off top…Suns “aggressively” shopping KD. They have
>lowered the asking price and would like to move him before the
>draft.

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63. "Pistons scooped up Caris Levert at 12:01 😂"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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66. "Huge downgrade, letting Schroeder go was stupid as hell too"
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>


Losing Hardaway, Beasley and Schroeder for levert and robinson ???


Dog shit

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67. "thats not the real math tho"
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its Ivey, Levert, and Robinson.

to me thats an upgrade. Schroeder and Hardaway out for Ivey and Levert is a W that saves $16M, and both guys can run offense in a way Hardaway couldnt. Robinson is a pivot from Beasley's situation (and a better shooter anyways), and the sign and trade made it half price.

this is great imo. we are rapidly approaching the extension era, and the net financial burden this way is (-$8M) considering they were never bringing back all 3 guys PLUS Ivey.

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68. "Levert is just a guy, and Robinson is just whtaver now"
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I forgot about Ivey completely but we still have no idea how good he is...Dennis came up HUGE in big moments. he is not scared. That is priceless.

Im not blaming the Pistons for moving on from Beasley, his dumbass did it to himself,



>its Ivey, Levert, and Robinson.
>
>to me thats an upgrade. Schroeder and Hardaway out for Ivey
>and Levert is a W that saves $16M, and both guys can run
>offense in a way Hardaway couldnt. Robinson is a pivot from
>Beasley's situation (and a better shooter anyways), and the
>sign and trade made it half price.
>
>this is great imo. we are rapidly approaching the extension
>era, and the net financial burden this way is (-$8M)
>considering they were never bringing back all 3 guys PLUS
>Ivey.

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70. "i agree about Schroeder "
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would have liked him back.

but i think there was a minutes crunch brewing with Ivey coming back, and to me Levert is the best player coming or going.

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73. "I feel better about these moves after sleeping on it "
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And rewatching Iveys Purdue highlights

Edit maybe add a veteran big

Can’t believe Stewart missed the whole Knick series on one knee tweak

he def would have given KAT trouble

>would have liked him back.
>
>but i think there was a minutes crunch brewing with Ivey
>coming back, and to me Levert is the best player coming or
>going.

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78. "a veteran big for sure"
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hopefully more of a 4 than a 5

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64. "Shams: Bucks waiving Lillard"
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They're planning on stretching the remaining $110 million or so out over the next five years.

This is apparently in service of helping them sign Myles Turner.

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65. "They signed Turner."
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>They're planning on stretching the remaining $110 million or
>so out over the next five years.
>
>This is apparently in service of helping them sign Myles
>Turner.
>
>

I don't know how to feel. I developed a liking for the Pacers as a team when they my Knicks out of the playoffs. I want a chance to beat those same guys..

Great move for the Bucks though. Turner can do a lot, he just can't be relied on as a primary scoring option.

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71. "Hornets were determined to draft a white dude from Duke.. lol"
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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72. "It appears the Knicks are going to hire Mike Brown"
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I have my doubts based on how quickly he flamed out in Sacramento, but I hope everything works out.

Have to wonder how hands off Dolan will be with Mike Brown since it appears he was the main reason Thibs was given the axe.

Also wonder how long Mike Brown's deal will be since that should factor into how long of a leash he'll be given.


This feels like a lateral move at best in terms of the difference between Thibs and Mike Brown, but here's the hoping I'm wrong.

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75. "Cam Whitmore for two Swisher Sweets..."
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I know Udoka don't like Cam, but gatdamn, really?

Cam Whitmore is as talented as Jalen Green IMO. He just talked back too much to Udoka I guess.

But he gonna cook in the east and he will be starting at some point this season.

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76. "there just wasnt an opportunity for Cam there"
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too much young talent ahead of him and all he wants to do when he gets in is shoot it. he needed to go somewhere else.

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80. "That's also just who Cam is."
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No passing, no defense. Just infinite green light. Fun player when he's cooking, so it's unlikely that he's a "winning player" unless he develops as a team player on either end. I get why no one was going to give Houston a first rounder for him.

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81. "I like the fresh start for Whitmore, wish it wasn't with the raggedy Wiz"
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Losing ass culture from top to bottom.

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83. "Didn't mean to reply here"
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My bad.

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84. "Attorneys: Malik Beasley no longer target of gambling probe"
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link: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/46047941/attorneys-malik-beasley-no-longer-target-gambling-probe


Good news is that it appears he's clear of any wrong doing, assuming his attorney's are accurate.

I'm guessing this is still bad timing since I'm assuming most teams have their rosters pretty much solidified, right? I can't see this dude getting the top dollar he wanted before the charges dropped. Pretty brutal since I think Beasley had some of the best shooting of his career last regular season if memory serves me correct.

Almost feels as if dude still got punished even though he wasn't officially found guilty or liable for the initial charges since he missed out on a huge payday.

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85. "what a mess"
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86. "Pablo Torre did a whole podcast episode about this"
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Beasley is like a wildly underrated 3-point shooter based on percentage...like top five/ten in the league depending on time of year. This surely nerfed his earning potential

  

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87. "the idea that what they've said = clear of any wrong doing"
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is not what I think that designation says

which doesn't mean he did anything, I just don't know what those words mean.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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88. "beyond the sense that we are all sinners"
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if the casinos arent coming after him, thats evidence enough for me i think

the crazy shit was honestly all the stuff that cane out subsequently to this. he put himself in some bad spots but his name really got dragged thru the mud imo.

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89. "“It is not fair to characterize him as being broke,”"
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is less than ideal for something for your lawyer to have to say

I just don't know anything yet



But Beasley is still considered a “subject” of the investigation, according to a source with knowledge of it. The Department of Justice defines a subject as “a person whose conduct is within the scope of the grand jury’s investigation,” which means Beasley could still be charged with a crime, something his lawyers have acknowledged.

“I have no idea,” Steve Haney, one of Beasley’s attorneys, said when asked Friday by The Detroit News if Beasley would be charged. “That is the frustrating thing. You live in a state of purgatory with a cloud hanging over your head for what? Forever? And you’re out of the league and can never play basketball again?


https://frontofficesports.com/malik-beasley-nba-betting-investigation/

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2025/08/22/malik-beasley-no-longer-target-of-fbi-gambling-probe-lawyer-says/85775202007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=true&gca-epti=z117970p118850c118850u006270e003600v117970&gca-ft=239&gca-ds=sophi


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90. "Goddamn this board is dead. No Kawhi post??"
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91. "Pablo Torres' episode on this was good"
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and he and his team did a great job unearthing all the Kawhi connections to that fraudulent company, but IMO the league is going to have to do further investigation to get more concrete connections between Balmer and/or other Clippers officials that were involved with the fraudulent company. I do wonder how long the league will take to properly investigate this whole mess.

Pretty wild how relatively unsuccessful the Clippers have been since making a big deal with signing Kawhi and Paul George. Also have to wonder how much this whole drama will carry over to the upcoming season. I've seen jokes made about how old the current Clippers roster is, but the players being so old should help in terms of them tuning out all the negative press this is bound to kick up when the season starts.

To make this Knicks related because after all, I am a Knicks fan, Pablo did mention on the Dan Patrick Show if memory serves me right that he was going to investigate if the Knicks gave Brunson similar under the table money given how he signed for such a significantly lower amount when he did his contract extension years ago. Have to admit I am a bit nervous since I don't have much faith in James Dolan actually doing the right thing, but ultimately time will tell if the Knicks were underhanded (again since they were already found guilty of tampering) in their dealings with Brunson.

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92. " country being in th midst of fascism induced decline cant help lol"
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93. "that last certificate expiration was a killer"
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94. "new Pablo Torre ep -- Sept 18"
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https://youtu.be/4_ow9i3obDE?si=uXvCwUYMrzQZEk94

must watch tv lol. he's on an alltime heater

  

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95. "Finally caught up on this"
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It’s hilarious seeing people (especially Mark Cuban) twist themselves into knots trying to make this seem like anything other than cap circumvention and painting Pablo like he’s just a podcaster with an agenda. I don’t know what more people have to see to realize there’s not a reasonable explanation for all this. The Ballmer defenders are acting like there has to be an Aspiration document with both Ballmer and Kawhi’s signature on it lol.

That said, I’m 75% sure Adam Silver isn’t gonna do shit about this. And if that’s the case, just get rid of the cap/max contract structure.

  

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