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Cold Truth
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"2024 NBA Offseason: Draft, Trades, Free Agency, Coaching Carousel"
Wed Jun-19-24 11:23 AM by Cold Truth

  

          

Monty fired, which is insane, but expected. I’d say Cavs is the smart choice as far as open jobs are, but let’s be real. Wherever he goes he’ll be fired in 4 years if he’s lucky.

Coaching is a great gig if you want to get paid to fuck off, but not if you want long term stability.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40385485/sources-pistons-fire-coach-monty-williams-one-season

-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

  

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I'm on that Borrego train and the Cavs seem to be as well
Jun 19th 2024
1
some of these teams more wreckless w/ their spending than the DoD
Jun 19th 2024
2
owner's gonna eat that apprently
Jun 19th 2024
3
      Yeah, ultimately you have to just accept the sunk cost.
Jun 20th 2024
7
           RE: Yeah, ultimately you have to just accept the sunk cost.
Jun 26th 2024
62
                It’s not about “trying something new,” it’s about fit imo.
Jun 27th 2024
81
I’m kinda on team blow it up and rebuild.
Jun 19th 2024
4
I don't know why fans and the FO thinks having a Big 3 works
Jun 19th 2024
5
I honestly think the 2021 team may have been better.
Jun 19th 2024
6
      I could see that
Jun 22nd 2024
33
It just won't happen until Bron's gone.
Jun 20th 2024
8
JJ Redick is officially the next LA Lakers head coach. 4 year deal.
Jun 20th 2024
9
Unserious franchise.
Jun 20th 2024
10
I'm somewhat curious what the expectations will be going forward.
Jun 20th 2024
11
Lakers entering their 2000s Knicks era
Jun 20th 2024
15
      RE: Lakers entering their 2000s Knicks era
Jun 20th 2024
17
bwahahahahahaha
Jun 20th 2024
12
if someone is throwing a bag at me i'm catching it
Jun 20th 2024
13
      Money and wealthy are nice, sure.
Jun 20th 2024
14
           maybe he doesn't have designs on coaching until a decade from now
Jun 20th 2024
19
                I agree that he should've taken the offer. it'll be unreal pressure to g...
Jun 20th 2024
26
LeGM happy.
Jun 20th 2024
16
Steve Nash is 500x the player and basketball mind that Reddick is
Jun 20th 2024
18
Lake Show is back!!!!!
Jun 20th 2024
23
Podcast white guy over Sam Cassell is batshit crazy
Jun 22nd 2024
34
RE: Podcast white guy with zero experience coaching at any level
Jun 23rd 2024
35
Makes his anger at Perk's Joker comments re MVP really cute now
Jun 26th 2024
67
Bulls sending Alex Caruso to OKC for Josh Giddey....
Jun 20th 2024
20
Chi town what is you doin!?
Jun 20th 2024
21
Assuming legal troubles don't persist, good deal for both.
Jun 20th 2024
22
I agree w/ all of this.
Jun 20th 2024
25
      I mean, I think Caruso *could've* fetched picks. Maybe even two.
Jun 21st 2024
28
idk that this is the trade they need but ridding giddey with it is good
Jun 20th 2024
24
Celtics are primed to have the biggest payroll in history in short order
Jun 21st 2024
27
Annual contention is expensive!
Jun 21st 2024
29
Thems the breaks. Warriors got 4 out of it.
Jun 21st 2024
30
      Yeah I can't complain
Jun 21st 2024
31
           If you guys stay contending…
Jun 21st 2024
32
Do you guys think Jimmy Butler will resign with Miami?
Jun 23rd 2024
36
If I were them I'd test the waters on a trade this summer
Jun 24th 2024
44
re: the JJ hire -- what else should the Lakers have done?
Jun 23rd 2024
37
You really ignoring Kerr in the front office for awhile?
Jun 23rd 2024
38
No the FO experience in Phoenix is obviously relevant
Jun 23rd 2024
39
      Thing is…who knows?
Jun 23rd 2024
40
           ^^^ yup.
Jun 23rd 2024
41
           This is the 8th Laker coach in 12 years.
Jun 24th 2024
47
                While this is true - how many of those are coaching right today?
Jun 24th 2024
48
                     ... I'd say five of the last seven?
Jun 24th 2024
49
                          You’re correct.
Jun 25th 2024
50
Sam Cassell, Adrian Griffin, Kenny Atkinson, and James Borrego
Jun 24th 2024
43
      RE: Sam Cassell, Adrian Griffin, Kenny Atkinson, and James Borrego
Jun 24th 2024
45
      here's the story.
Jun 26th 2024
59
      JJ is making the same as Doc, Nurse, Malone, Kidd
Jun 24th 2024
46
           LMAO@word on the street, AKA I just made this up, just now
Jun 25th 2024
51
so Kenny Atkinson it is!
Jun 24th 2024
42
Amazing coach , Durant/ Kyrie dumb azz wanted Dandre Jordan over Allen
Jun 27th 2024
90
Your young players will develop
Jul 01st 2024
142
the Knicks just traded away the next decade for Mikal Bridges
Jun 25th 2024
52
Four unprotected firsts and a pick from the Bucks?
Jun 25th 2024
53
This is absolutely a "we're all in" move.
Jun 26th 2024
55
      Totally agree.
Jun 26th 2024
56
      Depending on the final roster
Jun 26th 2024
60
           half the team will be dealing with soft tissue issues by Valentine's Day
Jun 26th 2024
63
                let’s assume all the teams in the east are fully healthy
Jun 26th 2024
64
      more relevant easily. Peak Melo had JR Smith as a running mate.
Jun 26th 2024
68
Can the Knicks re-sign OG?
Jun 25th 2024
54
yes. likely they let I-Hart walk
Jun 26th 2024
65
We got rid of a role player for 4 unprotected firsts? Lmfao Knicks dumb ...
Jun 26th 2024
57
IMO, the Knicks gave up a lot
Jun 26th 2024
58
So I guess I was wrong.
Jul 08th 2024
183
the amount of draft capital they gave up for Bridges is crazy.
Jun 26th 2024
61
OG coming back..5/212.5
Jun 26th 2024
71
now that the Nets are finally moving on, Cam Johnson will be ours
Jun 26th 2024
66
Won't the Nets want draft picks?
Jun 26th 2024
69
Seeing "experts" connecting PG with Golden State. You like that? (c)
Jun 26th 2024
70
This crew on ESPN doing the draft ain’t it.
Jun 26th 2024
72
Knecht falling to the Lakers is massive, man.
Jun 26th 2024
73
Agreed
Jun 26th 2024
74
Perfect storm of circumstances for the Lakers with this pick
Jun 27th 2024
87
happy for our guy
Jun 28th 2024
98
#9! Good for you Zach, no one deserves it more
Jun 26th 2024
75
easily. as someone said, at worst he's a better Boban.
Jun 27th 2024
76
      It’s lazy stupid comparison
Jun 27th 2024
89
      I do wish he went to OKC
Jun 28th 2024
93
      God, I do too...we make the Finals with him, this season..
Jun 28th 2024
100
      Yao?!?!? I dunno about that.
Jun 28th 2024
101
           Wasn’t at you, but have heard it repeated
Jun 29th 2024
106
                it really depends on how (and how much) a team uses him...
Jun 29th 2024
110
      he has some similarities to Jonas V, who has done time in Memphis
Jun 29th 2024
109
Laughing at the talking heads on ESPN trying to justify this Laker mess
Jun 27th 2024
77
If Brawn has any integrity, he'll take a 20 million pay cut for this
Jun 27th 2024
78
If the kid is on the opening day roster than the team is an even less se...
Jun 27th 2024
79
      They're a bunch of star fucking nepobabies
Jun 27th 2024
80
Doing this much appeasing for a 40 yr old player is NUTS
Jun 27th 2024
82
Eh. The more I think about it, it’s not a bad pick.
Jun 27th 2024
83
sons of former players have a good track record in the league
Jun 27th 2024
84
      at least 10x better chance
Jun 27th 2024
85
I know y'all are on the internet and shit
Jun 28th 2024
94
Bronny is both a terrible pick and a hugely inspiring story
Jun 27th 2024
86
I mean, I don't blame the kid for pursuing his dreams...
Jun 27th 2024
88
LeBron put it out there two years ago
Jun 28th 2024
99
props to Bron and Bronny, fuck all the naysayers
Jun 27th 2024
91
People acting like Bronny was taken with the #17 pick
Jun 28th 2024
92
…..it’s pure nepotism, though
Jun 28th 2024
95
The Buss kids own the team because they inherited it from their dad.
Jun 28th 2024
96
I agree
Jun 28th 2024
97
      I would hope everybody breathing can see how/why this happened.
Jun 30th 2024
118
tell me the averages of the last 7 #55 picks
Jul 01st 2024
125
      No. But last year’s #55 pick averaged 16 ppg for a final 4 team
Jul 01st 2024
126
           you don't seem to know anything at all about the draft
Jul 01st 2024
128
                Oh ok
Jul 01st 2024
130
                     if you think I'm going to do free labor to win an online argument
Jul 01st 2024
131
                          You’re the only one arguing
Jul 01st 2024
134
yeah. I mean, NEPOTISM BAD but bro. the #55 pick rarely does shit
Jun 29th 2024
107
      I’m just sick of the Lakers always doing the “big name” thing
Jul 01st 2024
127
So what of this woman who says JJ called her a nigger in college?
Jun 28th 2024
102
This is his ex-girl from college
Jun 28th 2024
103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X36BYKKqQ8w
Jun 28th 2024
104
      giving benefit of doubt to a white Duke player is naïveté of highest o...
Jun 30th 2024
115
The Dejounte/Tre experiment over...
Jun 28th 2024
105
good move for Pels
Jun 29th 2024
108
Is Golden State about to lose Klay and get PG?
Jun 29th 2024
111
I’m pretty sure PG opting out means hes no longer an option
Jun 29th 2024
112
      Right on, that makes sense, regarding the opt out..
Jun 29th 2024
113
           Yeah, I’d say so
Jun 29th 2024
114
JB byke! Hired as new Pistons HC
Jun 30th 2024
116
Need any more proof DeRozan is gone? Pat Williams 5/$90.
Jun 30th 2024
117
Here we go, Fellas
Jun 30th 2024
119
Harden staying with the Clips…2/70
Jun 30th 2024
120
CP3 waived….who needs/wants him?
Jun 30th 2024
121
San Antonio
Jun 30th 2024
122
      I really like this move for them.
Jun 30th 2024
123
bar a July suprise, Lord NyQuil (PG) going to Sixers
Jul 01st 2024
124
Hartenstein to the Thunder?!?!
Jul 01st 2024
129
you know what, I might have to join you in the hate this season
Jul 01st 2024
139
Tobias Harris to Detroit: 2y/52M. METH CRYSTALS
Jul 01st 2024
132
he's tapped NBA teams' pockets for almost 300M. insane.
Jul 01st 2024
133
the difference between "hey tobias, we'd like to win 28 games"
Jul 01st 2024
137
Yeah, feels like a no-brainer move for Detroit.
Jul 01st 2024
138
This wasn't a salary floor move?
Jul 01st 2024
147
      had to be. because...
Jul 04th 2024
178
Embiid, PG and Maxey is a formidable trio.
Jul 01st 2024
135
They going out in the 2nd round again
Jul 01st 2024
136
It would be wise and prudent for Embiid and PG
Jul 01st 2024
141
NO EXCUSES for Emplead and Playoff Pee!
Jul 03rd 2024
175
I think the funniest part of Streetlights Over Spotlights...
Jul 01st 2024
140
Klay to the Mavs...3/50
Jul 01st 2024
143
these are the sad times.
Jul 01st 2024
144
i wouldn't call that ring chasing. What's he supposed to do, sign for th...
Jul 01st 2024
145
i'm going off the reporting of him saying he choose Dallas...
Jul 01st 2024
146
      Choosing a contender isn't simply the same as ring chasing
Jul 01st 2024
161
           I disagree.
Jul 02nd 2024
164
                "these are the sad times" sure sounds like a negative.
Jul 02nd 2024
165
                     of course it makes me sad.
Jul 02nd 2024
166
                          um, ok.
Jul 02nd 2024
167
                               yup. could of "um, ok"'d it from your first reply.
Jul 02nd 2024
168
Longtime players leave all the time.
Jul 03rd 2024
176
      pretty much...not sure what he was crying about lol
Jul 05th 2024
180
Klay and Grimes coming off the bench
Jul 01st 2024
148
Klay has not been effective defensively in 4 years
Jul 01st 2024
149
Not a horrible choice honestly.
Jul 01st 2024
150
RE: Klay to the Mavs...3/50
Jul 01st 2024
151
Salute to a Dubs legend
Jul 01st 2024
155
I'm scurred...
Jul 02nd 2024
169
KERA - Texas PBS, Dallas
Jul 02nd 2024
172
      LMAO!
Jul 02nd 2024
174
Tatum locked up for 5 years $314 million
Jul 01st 2024
152
RE: Tatum locked up for 5 years $314 million
Jul 02nd 2024
170
Thanks for the memories, Klay
Jul 01st 2024
153
You really think he gets a statue?
Jul 01st 2024
154
      No way Durant gets a statue and Klay doesn’t.
Jul 01st 2024
156
      I was with you, lock-step...
Jul 01st 2024
157
      I hear you.
Jul 01st 2024
159
      KD not getting no statue there lol
Jul 01st 2024
158
      is he gonna be the only HOFer / top75 to not get his jersey retired...
Jul 16th 2024
192
           OKC will probably do it eventually.
Jul 16th 2024
193
      Durant? lmao, unless he comes back and wins 2 more chips for the Dubs
Jul 02nd 2024
162
      All of the O.G. three are absolutely beloved and really important...
Jul 02nd 2024
163
           Makes sense.
Jul 02nd 2024
171
                I'm not a Dubs fan, per se, but I follow them quite a bit
Jul 03rd 2024
177
Tatum with more money than God - Franklin Saint
Jul 01st 2024
160
Donovan back to Cavs, 3 years (2+1), $150M
Jul 02nd 2024
173
The Cavaliers also managed
Jul 08th 2024
182
Buddy Hield to Warriors in S&T
Jul 04th 2024
179
I actually like the Warrior's off-season moves
Jul 08th 2024
181
Summer league. Flip looking real G Leagueish out there
Jul 09th 2024
184
I like the little I've seen of Adem Bona for Philly.
Jul 11th 2024
185
      Bona ia a goon, he knows his role.
Jul 11th 2024
186
Jalen Brunson pockets curvy
Jul 12th 2024
187
if they win a chip tho, hes MSG royalty
Jul 12th 2024
188
Brunson the realest
Jul 13th 2024
189
dumb , he gets hurt they’re gonna fuck him like Celtics did w Isiah Th...
Jul 20th 2024
201
      It sets him up to go 4/323 in 2027.
Jul 23rd 2024
204
           the (years)/(millions) salary ratios so crazy now, my first thought was....
Jul 24th 2024
219
Whitmore doesn’t need to play another second of summer league.
Jul 14th 2024
190
lot of rookies looking really good.
Jul 15th 2024
191
Jaquez was out there fuckin it up for everybody else it looked like
Jul 16th 2024
194
Alex Sarr needs more playing time.
Jul 17th 2024
195
RE: 2024 NBA Offseason: Draft, Trades, Free Agency, Coaching Carousel
Jul 17th 2024
196
Westbrook heading to Denver via Utah
Jul 18th 2024
197
Sarr looking real shaky out there.
Jul 19th 2024
198
he looked fine game 1. strange.
Jul 19th 2024
199
at one point (a year ago or so), Buzelis was the projected #1 pick.
Jul 19th 2024
200
Fantastic summer league championship game.
Jul 22nd 2024
202
Lebron using the Olympics as a pro-Goat infomercial is creative
Jul 23rd 2024
203
the crashing your helicopter on a mountain tactic was taken already
Jul 23rd 2024
205
Seriously nigga
Jul 23rd 2024
206
as serious as that 2015 doc made to put him in the GOAT debate
Jul 23rd 2024
217
still time to edit. you're on the list though.
Jul 23rd 2024
207
You’re better than this*
Jul 23rd 2024
208
wow
Jul 23rd 2024
211
So, you good with joking about a child dying?
Jul 23rd 2024
213
no joke about it. write it down, take a picture, idgaf
Jul 23rd 2024
215
      Sports isn’t this serious. Grow up.
Jul 24th 2024
218
The fuck.
Jul 24th 2024
220
If he's going to have to do all this heavy lifting
Jul 23rd 2024
209
      narcissism first / legs later
Jul 23rd 2024
210
      I'm far from being a Lakers fan, so I don't care that deeply.
Jul 23rd 2024
212
      mindset isnt hard, just remove logic and reasoning from your thoughts
Jul 23rd 2024
216
      the absolute AUDACITY to cite narcissism with a Tiger Woods sn
Jul 24th 2024
221
           Time for an internet break!
Jul 24th 2024
222
                lmao!! ay!! fuck you AND kobe, lol
Jul 24th 2024
223
      He and AD will both be cooked by Christmas
Jul 23rd 2024
214
           This is pretty much my take too
Jul 28th 2024
226
USA blows out Serbia in opening game
Jul 28th 2024
224
You think Kerr is creating controversy with the Tatum thing?
Jul 28th 2024
225
he says this was all discussed beforehand
Jul 29th 2024
228
I need people (and hsow producers) to turn off twitter
Jul 30th 2024
229
people are making a huge deal of it
Jul 30th 2024
231
that game made me appreciate Jokic even more
Jul 29th 2024
227
dude is incredible and that was the greatest showcase ever
Jul 30th 2024
230
insane stat
Jul 31st 2024
233
i love seeing how much fun they are all having playing together
Jul 30th 2024
232
      Honestly this is the best part.
Jul 31st 2024
234
Bron and KD are something else, man.
Aug 03rd 2024
235
Joel Embid presence and behavior on this team is cringe and immature af
Aug 07th 2024
236
He's a clown
Aug 07th 2024
237
It's both dumb and funny.
Aug 07th 2024
238
he always came off cringe and immature.
Aug 07th 2024
239
      At least he’s playing well and delivering while looking doofy
Aug 08th 2024
240
           agreed
Aug 09th 2024
241

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1. "I'm on that Borrego train and the Cavs seem to be as well"
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the backup guys will likely be Atkinson, Alex Jensen, maybe Chris Quinn from Miami.

but there's a major reason why I want Borrego: he has made doo-doo into actual fertilizer for teams offensively. The Cavs Achilles' heel is not toughness, not even the size of their backcourt IMO. it's offense and shooting.

and Borrego had a fuckin Devonte Graham/Terry Rozier backcourt cooking on a Hornets team that was ultimately ass. A lot of non-shooters in NO he made respectable.

Moving off JBB, I'm definitely welcoming JB2 with open arms over here.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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Robert
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2. "some of these teams more wreckless w/ their spending than the DoD"
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headline might as well read "Pistons fans see 50% increase in their ticket/concession prices in 2024-26"

i get $65milly in a $2billy business is a drop in bucket/part of the game..but still

  

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3. "owner's gonna eat that apprently"
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but we'll see

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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7. "Yeah, ultimately you have to just accept the sunk cost."
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You made a mistake. The coach isn't working, and you owe him a ton of money. Would you rather:
a) lose several more seasons solely because you don't want to eat the cost of firing the coach, or
b) admit the mistake, pay out the ass for it, and move on in order to give your franchise an actual modicum of hope for the near future?

Option B all day. You have a new president, new GM, might as well have a new coach. They can make moves with this roster-- it's a roster with bad fit, but most of the pieces are really young with real upside value. Extract enough value with moves, and hey, you could have something.

If it were up to me (and hey Detroit, I'm available), everything I do would be centered around trying to surround Cade with shooting. I'd trade one of Ivey or Ausar, whichever you like more going forward, for shooting or major league draft capital. I'd trade Duren for shooting. I think Stewart can space the floor some, and he's obviously great to keep for salary matching in future trades down the line, but if you get the right offer, you trade him too. I like Grimes (even though he was hurt most of last year). I like Sasser as an off-the-bench piece. But they desperately need true rim protection next to Stewart, and they need shooting shooting shooting.

In the draft, shit, I'd trade up to make sure I land Reed Sheppard. Exceptional shooter, exceptional decision maker, a perfect complement to Cade. Maybe offer Houston Ivey-- or maybe Amen wants to play with his brother, idk. But I've no doubt in my mind Ivey and a second or two would get you the third pick in this draft. Then, with the fifth pick, you land Donovan Clingan or Alex Sarr, whichever one is still on the board at 5, since the Spurs aren't drafting a center. If the Pistons could roll out something like Cade/Sheppard/Grimes/Stewart/Clingan next year? That'd be something I could get excited about looking ahead.

Do I think they'll reboot that hard, when so many of these individual pieces hold great potential (I love Ivey, I think Ausar can be an NBA starter, I think Duren is a perfect Drummond bench big type)? Absolutely not. But if Cade is your star (and he is), you can't have multiple can't shoot/can't defend players on the floor next to him. It's just common sense.

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62. "RE: Yeah, ultimately you have to just accept the sunk cost."
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>If it were up to me (and hey Detroit, I'm available),
>everything I do would be centered around trying to surround
>Cade with shooting. I'd trade one of Ivey or Ausar, whichever
>you like more going forward, for shooting or major league
>draft capital.

If one has to go its Ivey, but the way Ivey got jerked around this past year, I dont think they could get the value for what he will be, just what hes shown up to now.

They have to see if Cade/Ivey can work imo. There is a risk that Ivey turns put to be a good player on a bad team type, but doing things and undoing them is why Kennard isnt there now to he the shooting they need, and James Wiseman is.

>I'd trade Duren for shooting. I think Stewart
>can space the floor some, and he's obviously great to keep for
>salary matching in future trades down the line, but if you get
>the right offer, you trade him too. I like Grimes (even though
>he was hurt most of last year). I like Sasser as an
>off-the-bench piece. But they desperately need true rim
>protection next to Stewart, and they need shooting shooting
>shooting.

Duren is off the table imo. Everyone loves him, his attitude, and the work ethic to match the potential. If someone wants to overpay, then the Pistons should listen, but short of that i dont think hes going anywhere.

>In the draft, shit, I'd trade up to make sure I land Reed
>Sheppard. Exceptional shooter, exceptional decision maker, a
>perfect complement to Cade. Maybe offer Houston Ivey-- or
>maybe Amen wants to play with his brother, idk. But I've no
>doubt in my mind Ivey and a second or two would get you the
>third pick in this draft. Then, with the fifth pick, you land
>Donovan Clingan or Alex Sarr, whichever one is still on the
>board at 5, since the Spurs aren't drafting a center. If the
>Pistons could roll out something like
>Cade/Sheppard/Grimes/Stewart/Clingan next year? That'd be
>something I could get excited about looking ahead.

If they trade up for Reed Sheppard im gonna vomit, and if they trade Ausar Thompson to do it im driving down to the arena and vomiting on the front door. I personally believe Ausar has All NBA potential in the Demar Derozan lane with preternatural 2pt shot selection and the length and athleticism that will cause opponents to game plan around his disruptiveness.

>Do I think they'll reboot that hard, when so many of these
>individual pieces hold great potential (I love Ivey, I think
>Ausar can be an NBA starter, I think Duren is a perfect
>Drummond bench big type)? Absolutely not. But if Cade is your
>star (and he is), you can't have multiple can't shoot/can't
>defend players on the floor next to him. It's just common
>sense.

Cade/Ausar/Duren are the foundation and everyone here loves them. I dont see any of them going anywhere. Like I said, Ivey i could be talked into, but also like I said, Dinwiddie/Kennard/Bruce. Cutting bait on guys just to try something new has gotten old amongst the fan base. The last coach to make the playoffs more than once got fired before end of his contract. Monty shouldve never been hired, but now that hes gone, I really want a little patience so that we can see what we really have.

  

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81. "It’s not about “trying something new,” it’s about fit imo."
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Cade/Ausar/Duren are the foundation and everyone here loves them. I dont see any of them going anywhere. Like I said, Ivey i could be talked into, but also like I said, Dinwiddie/Kennard/Bruce. Cutting bait on guys just to try something new has gotten old amongst the fan base.

They’ve been out here drafting “best player available” with a sea of players who can’t shoot. And now they draft Holland, who REALLY can’t shoot. I think all these individual players have genuine talent, but, like, that paint will be more packed than Times Square on NYE.

If you keep all these people to see what you have, they aren’t winning for years, plural, unless their shooting coach does miracle work. I know they’re gonna max extend Cade, as they should, but it’s gonna be so hard to see just how great he can be if no one on the team knocks down open 3s.

I’m not a Duren believer, personally— but honestly the center is the least of the issues. They just need two shooters out there at all times imo. I don’t know what the vision is. At all. Even in the new regime with the Ron Holland pick— unless the Holland pick signifies other guys are on their way out.

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4. "I’m kinda on team blow it up and rebuild. "
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Won’t happen, so…guess I’ll look forward to a podcaster head coach and a 3rd guy who doesn’t fit in again.

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5. "I don't know why fans and the FO thinks having a Big 3 works "
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I think the league the last few years has shown the depth is more important than top line talent. Even the year the team made the WCF, they had AD and Bron playing well, of course, but they had a lot of players play over their heads.

Also, who are we bringing in to be the #3 and who are we sending out? I don't think Levine is a solid bet given his injury history and lack of effort of defense. Are we getting rid of Reeves to get Levine? I don't think that's a good idea either.

I'd rather trade AD and Bron and start over. But, I would have very little faith the FO could actually build a capable roster. I didn't like Jim Buss and Mitch the last few years, but they did draft a pretty good roster. Recently, they nabbed Caruso, Reeves, and TNT with some low picks, so maybe I'm not giving them enough credit.

Regardless, I think 2020 was the peak of this team. It seems like whoever you bring in as a 3rd star, it's not going to move the needle enough to get this team to the level that OKC or MIN or DEN or DAL is at now. So, break the team up. But, I realize we need stars out here or Jeanie and Jay Mohr can't afford a new estate, so...

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6. "I honestly think the 2021 team may have been better. "
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But the injuries killed em. Obviously the offseason was almost nonexistent. Ah well.

But yeah. I’m guessing it’s gonna be LaVine, Dejonte, or…Trae. Blah.

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33. "I could see that"
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If AD and Bron don't get hurt, I think they were capable of making a run to the Finals or at least the WCF.

Either way, those two years were the best iterations of this version of the team. I don't see Rob getting the right fits around the stars.

As it is now, we'd be good if we were a Play-In team.

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8. "It just won't happen until Bron's gone."
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There's SO much money on the books. And they don't have their 2025 or 2027 picks either. Just gonna have to wait it out.

If Bron retires after this season, you eject Rui and Gabe Vincent in a heartbeat, you keep Reaves and Vanderbilt (because their contracts are pretty great, honestly), and you build around AD, because, let's face it, unless he plays another season or two like last year's, it's unlikely someone will want to trade for the right to pay 35-year-old AD 70 million dollars. But you'd have a ton of cap space, a few future picks, and expiring Rui and Vincent deals to play with in the trade market and free agency. It'll turn fast.

Just not next year, lol.

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9. "JJ Redick is officially the next LA Lakers head coach. 4 year deal."
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Woj says he's putting together a staff to surround him with experience. Fingers crossed this works out for him.

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10. "Unserious franchise."
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This is so stupid.

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11. "I'm somewhat curious what the expectations will be going forward."
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I say somewhat because all of my attention next season will be on my Knicks as this offseason will be a pivotal one, but enough about them. I bring up the expectations thing because I didn't watch the Lakers enough to know if Darvin Ham was in fact trash as a head coach and if Reddick will be that much better than him to exceed whatever expectations Ham didn't meet.

I have to assume Reddick is smart enough to know all eyes will be on him since him and LeBron already have that podcast they started up together coupled with the fact he's so green as a head coach.

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15. "Lakers entering their 2000s Knicks era"
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17. "RE: Lakers entering their 2000s Knicks era"
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>

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12. "bwahahahahahaha"
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This dude legit kissed Bron's ass all the way to the head coaching gig of the LA Lakers. Unfucking real.


>Woj says he's putting together a staff to surround him with
>experience. Fingers crossed this works out for him.

Wait...why? Why do you hope it works out for *him*?


There are qualified candidates out there. There are other former players out there with coaching experience.


They just don't have the right complexion and experience kissing Lebron's ass.


Its okay to turn down a job. Its ok to know that your privilege + friendship shouldn't mean you take a job. Its okay to have self awareness and bow out.

Lakers shouldn't have offered it, but he shouldn't accept either. No reason to "pull" for this type of arrogance.

Either way, the Lakers are in shambles. Damn, Lebron and his team really helped sink the LA Lakers for years to come. Crazy.

This is loser, legacy-ruining stuff.

  

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13. "if someone is throwing a bag at me i'm catching it"
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>Lakers shouldn't have offered it, but he shouldn't accept
>either. No reason to "pull" for this type of arrogance.

*and* he has a good chance of pulling a full Monty and getting canned in a year if the lakers underperform but still getting paid some or all of the remaining years on the contract. i'm taking that job if i'm reddick 10/10 times. job probably should have gone to a coach with more experience and qualifications but that's on the FO

  

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14. "Money and wealthy are nice, sure."
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But there is also the risk of JJ completely embarrassing himself and making it extremely hard to get another head coaching gig if that occurs. Examples of ex-player first time head coaches with no NBA head or assistant coaching experience getting canned and fading away to Bolivian I can think of are Steve Nash and Derek Fisher.

Reddick is a smart dude, so I have to imagine he knows that's part of the risk of taking this job.

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19. "maybe he doesn't have designs on coaching until a decade from now"
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and this is a good litmus test for him. and it's not like "ex head coach of the lakers" will tarnish his podcast or broadcasting careers. i agree he's unqualified but there aren't many reasons in my mind why he shouldn't take this once in a lifetime opportunity

  

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26. "I agree that he should've taken the offer. it'll be unreal pressure to g..."
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the team going in the right direction.

the bigger problem, as mentioned earlier, the lakers never should've made an offer to him. maybe this is a stop-gap til bron retires? maybe they can both leave at the same time lol

hopefully, I'm wrong, but don't see how this helps anything besides jj's pockets.

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16. "LeGM happy."
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that's all that really matters with regards to the Lakers right now.

let's see how this works out.

  

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18. "Steve Nash is 500x the player and basketball mind that Reddick is"
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>Woj says he's putting together a staff to surround him with
>experience. Fingers crossed this works out for him.


...and he failed miserably with 2 hall of famers and Kyrie


good luck lol

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23. "Lake Show is back!!!!!"
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Jeanie please take control of your team from Klutch Sports.

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34. "Podcast white guy over Sam Cassell is batshit crazy"
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Cassell has put in years of assistant coaching training and cant get the gig over a guy who kissed LeGM's ass. Lakers arent serious

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35. "RE: Podcast white guy with zero experience coaching at any level "
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>Cassell has put in years of assistant coaching training and
>cant get the gig over a guy who kissed LeGM's ass. Lakers
>arent serious

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67. "Makes his anger at Perk's Joker comments re MVP really cute now"
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>Woj says he's putting together a staff to surround him with
>experience. Fingers crossed this works out for him.

since this dude been buddied up with the superstar/gm he's about to start coaching. previous experience: Brooklyn Basketball Academy 2023-24 Volunteer 4th Grade Boys Head Coach. MERIT BASED!

  

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20. "Bulls sending Alex Caruso to OKC for Josh Giddey...."
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bye, Josh.

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21. "Chi town what is you doin!?"
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22. "Assuming legal troubles don't persist, good deal for both."
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Obviously if you think Giddey is going to go to jail at some point-- or will continue to pursue activities for which he might go to jail-- then it's a terrible deal, lol. But Chicago's miles from real contention, and Giddey's a 21 year old averaging 14/7/6 for his career.

Caruso has way more value on a team like OKC than on a team like Chicago, where he's the perfect role player who doesn't need the ball to impact the game, and Giddey has way more value as a high ceiling upside swing on a team like Chicago than on a team like OKC. So, y'know, if Giddey can not be a total dumbass off the court, then it should work out for both teams.

And obviously, in the short term, it's a huge come up for OKC, for whom Caruso is just a perfect fit.

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25. "I agree w/ all of this."
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Bulls reddit is overreacting because the trade didn't come with picks.
But an injury prone 30 year old Caruso isn't gonna fetch that.
Honestly, the moves the Bulls are making now they should have started two years ago.

As for Giddy, I don't like that the Bulls are adding another player that's not a threat
behind the arc, but Giddy is young and an additional play maker.

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28. "I mean, I think Caruso *could've* fetched picks. Maybe even two."
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But I think the teams that would've dealt a pick or two for Caruso would've been contender teams for whom the picks would've likely been in the 20s-- and the odds that you find a guy averaging 14/7/6 by age 21 in the NBA even with two swings of the bat in the 20s are so incredibly small. You'd need a top 10 type pick-- and teams with likely top 10 picks aren't interested in dealing them for a season of Alex Caruso.

The more interesting thing about this, that I've seen a few people bring up, is the upcoming Giddey extension. Because Giddey's people are gonna ask for a big number given his age and stats-- and they likely know that the Bulls can't just let Giddey walk for nothing after dealing Caruso for him. So the Bulls are presumably all in on the Josh Giddey experience. So it's interesting to dive into that idea as it pertains to the rest of the roster (and roster moves) going forward.

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24. "idk that this is the trade they need but ridding giddey with it is good"
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feel like OKC is overloaded with <= 6'5" defenders already

  

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27. "Celtics are primed to have the biggest payroll in history in short order"
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It is what it is, but I'm glad finally they've delivered a chip.

  

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29. "Annual contention is expensive!"
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Always a little risky if something unexpected and essentially career-ending happens, but once you have a championship core, let the billionaires pay to keep them together. The fans'll be happy, and the players have earned it.

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30. "Thems the breaks. Warriors got 4 out of it. "
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Shit falls apart, but in the interim you guys are set without many roster questions for the next few years which has to feel nice.

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31. "Yeah I can't complain"
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The only concern moving forward is how we replace Horford's production next summer when he retires. That second apron is gonna make it tough to add a replacement. But outside of that, the core should be set for years.

  

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32. "If you guys stay contending…"
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I have no doubt a good,cheap vet big will come like Rasheed in 2010

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36. "Do you guys think Jimmy Butler will resign with Miami?"
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Pat Rileys very public "keep your mouth shut if youre not playing" comments to Jimmy when he commented on the Knicks series was kind of eyebrow raising lol, and part of me thinks jimmy wanted to snap back but had to bite his tongue given its a contract year

edit https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/pat-riley-says-jimmy-butler-shouldve-kept-his-mouth-shut-about-heat-vs-celtics-addresses-potential-trade/

35, aging, and plays a rugged style that leads to injuries but hes looking for max numbers...

IDK, something tells me Pat Riley would rather not give out that kind of bag



>Monty fired, which is insane, but expected. I’d say Cavs is
>the smart choice as far as open jobs are, but let’s be real.
>Wherever he goes he’ll be fired in 4 years if he’s lucky.
>
>
>Coaching is a great gig if you want to get paid to fuck off,
>but not if you want long term stability.
>
>https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40385485/sources-pistons-fire-coach-monty-williams-one-season

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44. "If I were them I'd test the waters on a trade this summer"
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Definitely wouldn't re-sign him at this age and injury history. Maybe ATL would want his leadership? Try to snag Murray from them?

  

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37. "re: the JJ hire -- what else should the Lakers have done?"
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After Hurley turned down the offer, who should they have hired instead of JJ? It's not as if they had a wide field of options, and they need a coaching overhaul not just for the immediate, but for the long-term.

While the comparison to Riley is imperfect, it's also the case that critics excoriated the Lakers for making that hire as Riles was unproven, "too young", and had no remarkable substantive coaching experience.

But the comparison I think is more apt is to Steve Kerr, who also was an analyst before becoming a coach, and was clowned when the hire was made. "Wasn't a great player"; "no experience"; "too many better coaches available" etc...

Both JJ & Kerr aren't just meticulous analysts who really relish deep diving into the game, but they also are adept at relationship building and understanding personalities having both been around great players and coaches at the highest level. Both also aren't afraid to speak their minds and don't shy away from confrontation with great players.

There will be rough moments as JJ is being thrown to a high controversy franchise with win-now expectations (even if those expectations are overblown/unfair for a team that's had to play-in to the playoffs of recent vintage) - but he knows the modern game, has fostered great relationships wherever he's been, clearly has a drive to analyze and deeply study the game/strategy/matchups/sets etc. - and I think he'll be able to handle the intense learning curve/media frenzy given his competitive nature.

Also - for those who watched the Lakers consistently in the Ham era, they grew weary of seeing other teams constantly run successful sets and adjust, while the Lakers just stood still with questionable (at best) rotations and no viable sets; no quality sets out of timeouts; stubbornly starting/holding on to rotations that weren't bearing fruit etc. It became glaringly clear that the Lakers had a coaching disadvantage against nearly every team they faced.

Will JJ solve that? Unclear, but the players lost faith in Ham, and a change had to occur. Lakers are betting on the young, dynamic new guy - and that's also sort of on-brand for the franchise.

Just because the resume is light doesn't mean he won't succeed. I'm more bullish on the Redick era. Sure, it's a gamble, but when you look at the field of options available, the hire makes more sense. I think there will be more buy-in from the players, and that could give Redick the timeline needed to excel.

  

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38. "You really ignoring Kerr in the front office for awhile?"
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39. "No the FO experience in Phoenix is obviously relevant"
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but again - does being a minority owner of a team and a GM for a few years prepare you to be a head coach? Not too many former GMs/Execs out there who went on to become successful coaches.

Point is that Kerr also didn't have substantive coaching experience prior to GS, but many predicted he'd be successful nonetheless not just because of his time as an exec and an analyst (he was an analyst after his time with Phoenix, so he was also hired while working as an analyst) - but because of who he was and the aggregate non-coaching experience/attributes he brought to the table.

But the question remains: who should the Lakers have hired instead? Cassell? Monty?

  

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40. "Thing is…who knows?"
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He could be Pat Riley, Kerr, or even Kidd…but the money is on that he’s more Steve Nash or Luke Walton (who had much more experience, obv). We don’t REALLY know enough about how these coaches really work outside of track record. There’s no point in being mad about it, but he’s absolutely set up for failure - this just isn’t really a desirable job. I’m ok with going with a new dude who isn’t a retread like Monty, etc but would have honestly preferred someone who hasn’t been a HC but has been an assistant like Sam Cassell.

I also liked Ham more than most tho so…

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41. "^^^ yup."
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this job is a dumpster fir right now. I don't see how jj helps. I would've also preferred Cassell.

comparing jj to Kerr or Kidd doesn't seem fair. those two have chip experience. kerr was a key role player the greatest teams/players ever, while kidd was also one of the best at during his time. jj was none of that.

I like jj as a player, analyst, even podcaster. just don't think this was the right move for the team.

again, hopefully I'm wrong.

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47. "This is the 8th Laker coach in 12 years."
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All 7 of the previous coaches had serious coaching experience, and they were still swiftly shown the door. May as well try one without coaching experience!

(I'm 75% joking.)

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48. "While this is true - how many of those are coaching right today?"
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49. "... I'd say five of the last seven? "
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Brown's a head coach, Ham's an assistant for the Bucks, Walton's an assistant for the Cavs, Vogel was a head coach less than two months ago and will undoubtedly be on someone's staff before next season, and D'Antoni is a coaching advisor for the Pels (which, given his age, makes sense imo).

Byron Scott's the only one who doesn't seem to be working in basketball anymore.

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50. "You’re correct. "
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I only thought Brown had a job to be honest. Forgot Ham is with the Bucks, didn’t even remember Luke or Mike Dantoni had a job, and of course Vogel just got fired. My bad.

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43. "Sam Cassell, Adrian Griffin, Kenny Atkinson, and James Borrego"
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are better coaching candidates than JJ Redick. Sam Cassell has 15 years of NBA coaching experience. Adrian's last team fired him over a losing streak despite a winning record. Kenny Atkinson and James Borrego have more experience than JJ as well.

None of those candidates come with baggage like an abortion contract, alleged n word use, or trashing AD in the media.

Word on the street is JJ is one of the lowest paid coaches in the league as he should be.


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45. "RE: Sam Cassell, Adrian Griffin, Kenny Atkinson, and James Borrego"
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>None of those candidates come with baggage like an abortion
>contract, alleged n word use, or trashing AD in the media.

"Alleged n word use"? Can you show your work on that?

>Word on the street is JJ is one of the lowest paid coaches in
>the league as he should be.

Lakers historically haven't come out of pocket with top dollar offers (one of the reasons they missed out on Ty Lue) - but in this instance it makes sense for JJ to not lead the way in terms of salary. Lakers didn't offer him as much as they offered Hurley. He also still took the job even after the Lakers went big-game hunting with Hurley to where JJ had to accept being plan B. Those are both good signs IMO suggesting JJ is coming in knowing he has a lot to prove and not expecting to be courted as if he's already a made man as a coach.


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59. "here's the story."
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https://x.com/halleemah/status/1805634597108998650

Halleemah Nash
@halleemah
I’ve only been called the N word to my face by a white man once in my life and it was on the campus of Duke University while I was doing work with the basketball team. And today he was named the new head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers. What a world.

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2024/6/25/24186108/jj-redick-denies-n-word-use-slur-allegations-lakers-coach



Within a few hours, TMZ had gotten a denial of the story from Redick’s team:

We reached out to Redick’s camp for a response to the claim ... and they completely shut it down.

“No, it never happened,” a spokesperson tells TMZ Sports

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46. "JJ is making the same as Doc, Nurse, Malone, Kidd"
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And more than Carlisle and what Lue made this year.

He’s tied for 7th highest paid in the league.

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51. "LMAO@word on the street, AKA I just made this up, just now"
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-Sig-

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42. "so Kenny Atkinson it is! "
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I am not mad at this pick.

The offense will be better. Mobley and Allen will be even better with him as coach.

He got the rawest of deals due to The Snake and Kyrie when he was in "Woke-Man" mode.

Now he will get the chance to do it again with a team that is already good but has some kinks to work out.

Now for Donovan to re-sign so we can really get moving.

(I hope Kenny's development reputation doesn't mean the Cavs pick some jabroni like Furphy though)

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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90. "Amazing coach , Durant/ Kyrie dumb azz wanted Dandre Jordan over Allen"
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And when he told them to fuck off bc that’s a dumb idea they canned him smh

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142. "Your young players will develop"
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Look for a big leap from Mobley

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52. "the Knicks just traded away the next decade for Mikal Bridges"
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53. "Four unprotected firsts and a pick from the Bucks?"
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For their sake, they need to be in the championship picture or they look like assholes. Again.

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55. "This is absolutely a "we're all in" move."
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I... kinda don't think it's enough? But hey, it's probably the most relevant the Knicks have been since, like, Peak Carmelo.

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56. "Totally agree. "
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I respect the move. And hell…could he be their missing piece? Sure! It’s not LIKELY, but it’s possible. He’s a nice piece but I cannot think this gets them past Boston even slightly.

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60. "Depending on the final roster"
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the Knicks should have better depth than Boston; but like I said in my response to the trade, I want to wait until the Knicks make all their moves before opining on this trade.

As it stands today, Boston's starting five is still a notch above the other Eastern conference teams, especially defensively.

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63. "half the team will be dealing with soft tissue issues by Valentine's Day"
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64. "let’s assume all the teams in the east are fully healthy "
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They’re not better than
Boston
Philly
Milwaukee

Are they better than
Cleveland
Miami
Orlando


??

Even that is debateable


I like this trade for us . Let them live out their frat boy collegiate fantasies for a yearly second round exit while we rebuild for a stable future devoid of star chasing and failing or depending on role players (albeit very good ) like mikael bridges to lead us to the promised land

Win win for everyone

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68. "more relevant easily. Peak Melo had JR Smith as a running mate."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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54. "Can the Knicks re-sign OG?"
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I assume Robinson is gone.

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65. "yes. likely they let I-Hart walk"
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since they can only offer him so much, and they go after Drummond or someone similar.

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57. "We got rid of a role player for 4 unprotected firsts? Lmfao Knicks dumb ..."
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58. "IMO, the Knicks gave up a lot"
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especially if it's true that Mikal recently asked to get traded to the Knicks, but I'll wait until the Knicks are done making moves before giving any kind of final judgement on this trade.

I'm most interested in two aspects now for the Knicks 1) what the final roster will look like after all major moves are done and 2) if the Knicks will be above the second apron after all is said and done.

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183. "So I guess I was wrong."
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According to an interview with Nets GM Sean Marks, Bridges did not ask to get traded, much less to the Knicks.

Interesting.

I'm guessing whatever Brooklyn Nets fans will be around to buy tickets for Knicks/Nets games in Brooklyn probably won't care and will boo him anyway; can't say I blame them from their perspective.

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61. "the amount of draft capital they gave up for Bridges is crazy."
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basically Gobert level, and everyone thought that was WILD.

  

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71. "OG coming back..5/212.5"
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66. "now that the Nets are finally moving on, Cam Johnson will be ours"
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I don't even care if the Cavs give up #20 for him.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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69. "Won't the Nets want draft picks?"
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I'm assuming the Nets will ask for picks for their players outside of Ben Simmons as a condition for taking part in their fire sale; I could be wrong of course.

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70. "Seeing "experts" connecting PG with Golden State. You like that? (c)"
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72. "This crew on ESPN doing the draft ain’t it."
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73. "Knecht falling to the Lakers is massive, man."
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I think he’s a top 5 prospect in this class. Terrific scorer and floor spacer.

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74. "Agreed"
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>I think he’s a top 5 prospect in this class. Terrific
>scorer and floor spacer.

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87. "Perfect storm of circumstances for the Lakers with this pick"
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Since opening the flood gates for draft eligibility in terms of age, most lottery teams are in player-development mode and drafting younger and younger players.

Knecth's age (being 23 on draft day) is a huge advantage for the Lakers (been through adversity, couple more years of maturity etc..) while other teams want younger guys with empty slates to draw on. I thought Charlotte would take him, but I feel like they had PTSD from bad picks (namely Morrison) and passed on Knecht.

This was as good of a pick as the Lakers could've dreamed of given the scenario.
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98. "happy for our guy"
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Knecht being on the Lakers could easily make him the most high-profile NBA player from Tennessee since Allan Houston was on the Knicks

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75. "#9! Good for you Zach, no one deserves it more"
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Just love this dude, he’ll have a 10 year career, no one works harder, and he we’ll finda profitable niche

  

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76. "easily. as someone said, at worst he's a better Boban."
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if Boban can make a 10 year career in the NBA, Edey can for sure.

  

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89. "It’s lazy stupid comparison"
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He’s closer to Yao than he is to boban

I’m hyped, think he’s gonna play to his draft position

  

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93. "I do wish he went to OKC"
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100. "God, I do too...we make the Finals with him, this season.."
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we got abused so badly, up front.

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101. "Yao?!?!? I dunno about that."
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We'll see.

My point was you mentioned him having a 10 year career. I was saying he SHOULD do that standing on his head with the Boban comparison, that's all.

  

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106. "Wasn’t at you, but have heard it repeated"
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And it is dumb, just look at how they move. He’s not Yao, but I 100% stand by him being close to Yao than to Boban.

But yeah, my10 year comment was underselling it

I can’t imagine anyone is invested enough to finish something this long and detailed, I’m biased and the target audience, but a great data backed defense of the most dominant college player in 40 years:


https://theswishtheory.com/2024-nba-draft-articles/2024/06/the-edey-enigma-a-systematic-defense-of-a-generational-talent/

  

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110. "it really depends on how (and how much) a team uses him..."
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only because he's sort of a relic to a type of NBA that barely exists anymore. that doesn't mean he has no place in the league.

but, if used right, he should be a career 14 and 10 guy at worst. definitely better than Boban.

  

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109. "he has some similarities to Jonas V, who has done time in Memphis"
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this will allow JJJ to actually play PF because he's ass as a full-time center eventually.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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77. "Laughing at the talking heads on ESPN trying to justify this Laker mess"
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Fuck a sig, my presence is enough.

  

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78. "If Brawn has any integrity, he'll take a 20 million pay cut for this"
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-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

  

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79. "If the kid is on the opening day roster than the team is an even less se..."
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…organization than they appear to be. Which is saying something.

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80. "They're a bunch of star fucking nepobabies "
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It's a fucking joke. I hope for a large scale fan revolt against Jeanie and/or a scandal or something, because that's probably the best chance we have of them selling the team.

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82. "Doing this much appeasing for a 40 yr old player is NUTS"
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Lakers are not serious about winning anytime soon

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83. "Eh. The more I think about it, it’s not a bad pick."
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I’m annoyed by it but it’s largely inconsequential the
more I think about it.

Had they spent the 17, yeah. 

But at 55, the odds were seriously stacked against anyone at
that number.

At least there’s some tangible upside to drafting him.

I’m firmly in the camp that wants a full scale teardown from
ownership down to management, but that ain’t happening and
we’re locked into the Lebron era until he leaves. 

It’s not that big a deal the more I think about it. D

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84. "sons of former players have a good track record in the league"
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(no data on sons of current players)

so i think fair to say he has a better chance of success than
an exact clone with the exact same on-court performance
history who wasn't raised by lebron james.

point 2: rob pelinka should be fired.

  

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85. "at least 10x better chance"
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unfortunately the clone's chance is zero, and 10×0 still
equals zero

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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94. "I know y'all are on the internet and shit"
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but like

it's not

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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86. "Bronny is both a terrible pick and a hugely inspiring story "
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On one hand, through sheer nepo-will Lebron campaigned/conned his son into the league. There’s not a one credible scout who thinks this kid is a worthwhile pro prospect. That’s wild that Bron was able to flex his muscle to such an extant - hold the Lakers hostage to the point of hiring his podcast cohost as coach and drafting his son IN THE SAME WEEK.

But fuck man I just watxhed Savannah’s reaction and my hate was sort of extinguished. Like in the end , Lebron exceeded even the loftiest competitive expectations, never broke the law or embarrassed the league, and was a committed family man. And look at the dream he just realized - he came in the league at 18 and now he’s gonna play NBA ball with his son. I can only say good for him.

Lakers are a 5.5 who look in the mirror and see a 10. They have no real plan , no depth, not enough shooters , and are stuck in an already stacked and consistently improving West. It’s fun to see the delusion get more and more inflated by the year.

  

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88. "I mean, I don't blame the kid for pursuing his dreams..."
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...to play in the NBA. He was clearly good enough to play at a D1 school.

And I don't blame his father for helping his kid pursue his dreams, or for wanting to play together on the same team with his son.

But I do expect the Lakers to be a serious organization. And they in all likelihood could have not spent a pick on the kid and just signed him after the draft was over. And it would have been the same feel good story.

And they will be doing the kid no favors if he's on the opening day roster instead of in the G-League/D-League/whatever they're calling it these days so he can develop his game.

Regardless, by all accounts Bryce is the better prospect. So when he eventually makes the league, all of this will be a footnote.

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99. "LeBron put it out there two years ago"
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he said he would be playing with his son, period. Lakers (or anyone who wanted to just draft Bronny) could have called his bluff, and they didn't.

nothing really to get mad about, all parties are on board with the decision and nobody has a "right" to be in the NBA (if we are talking about the legit prospects the Lakers may have passed on). if LA wants to full out their roster with Marines, they can do that too.

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91. "props to Bron and Bronny, fuck all the naysayers"
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92. "People acting like Bronny was taken with the #17 pick"
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#55 is always a crapshoot. People acting like the Lakers passed on a guaranteed player for Bronny. Most people couldn’t even name on player they should have taken instead.

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95. "…..it’s pure nepotism, though"
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He averaged 5 ppg and shot 37%. Zero business getting drafted, on his own merits.

Lakers are purely about names and star power at this point. Not at all a serious franchise.

  

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96. "The Buss kids own the team because they inherited it from their dad."
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Jeanie Buss owning and ultimately running the premier franchise in the NBA- and srguabky top 3 in all of pro sports- is an exponentially more insane and consequential example of nepotism.

Bronny was the last pick in the draft.

Yes, that sucks for the kids who had a shot at that opportunity based on their ability and not their dad.

But like Bronny’s draft position, it’s dead last on the list of problems with this team.

This team sucks for so many more significant reasons, this one doesn’t even register as an actual problem.

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97. "I agree"
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We all know the 55th pick most likely isn’t making it anyway. I’m not mad about it and I agree that big picture, it doesn’t move the needle.

I just want to make sure people are honest about what it is. You don’t get drafted as a guard that averaged 5 ppg on 37% because you can jump pretty high.

  

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118. "I would hope everybody breathing can see how/why this happened."
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I'm ok with the reasons and still slightly annoyed that the pick wasn't used differently. however, it's not likely to move the needle regardless of who they got.

the org is in a terrible spot. this won't help them and looks dumb. hopefully they can swing some trades to become at least competitive soon.

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125. "tell me the averages of the last 7 #55 picks"
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there have been people drafted in the second round who didn't play the year previous.

people *don't want to be drafted in the second round* so that they can pick their teams. see Bronny's new teammate austin reaves.

if you don't understand basketball just say so.


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126. "No. But last year’s #55 pick averaged 16 ppg for a final 4 team "
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>there have been people drafted in the second round who didn't
>play the year previous.

Not usually.


>people *don't want to be drafted in the second round* so that
>they can pick their teams. see Bronny's new teammate austin
>reaves.


People who are good enough, sure.

>if you don't understand basketball just say so.

Take your own advice.

  

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128. "you don't seem to know anything at all about the draft"
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I'm glad you just started following the NBA today though, I think you'll love it.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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130. "Oh ok"
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Go look up stats from the “last 7 years” and prove to me that you know your stuff!

  

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131. "if you think I'm going to do free labor to win an online argument"
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then just keep waiting to find out if I do it, I'll brb, promise!

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134. "You’re the only one arguing"
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and you’re the one who asked me to look up 7 years of draft picks, lol.

The Lakers picked Bronny because of his dad, but it’s not that big of a deal because it’s only the 55th pick. We already all talked about all that. As a Lakers fan, it’s par for the course though so the direction of the franchise is frustrating.

If you think he was picked for any other reason, then cool. If you agree why he was picked, then what are you even doing?

  

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107. "yeah. I mean, NEPOTISM BAD but bro. the #55 pick rarely does shit"
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if they had done that @ 17 instead of getting a player like "XBOX" Knecht (who surprisingly dropped) they would be complete dumbasses

love the move personally because it shuts up those obnoxious LeBronies in my team's fanbase

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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127. "I’m just sick of the Lakers always doing the “big name” thing "
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I’m convinced it’s why they picked Ball over Fox. Anyone with eyes could see Fox would be a better pro.

Bringing in Westbrook, smh. So dumb.

  

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102. "So what of this woman who says JJ called her a nigger in college?"
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timing is always interesting and he's been on TV for a minute.

In line with the disturbing trend of Black people caping for white folks racist or racially suspect behavior, I can almost guarantee that LeBron says "JJ doesn't have a racist bone in his body" or some shit but prove me wrong Nepo/Crony king!

  

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103. "This is his ex-girl from college"
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She first made waves about a decade ago when she said Reddick made her sign an "abortion contract." That was also around the time she first said he used anti-Black and anti-Hispanic racial slurs. She's popped again right around his name started to be thrown around to be the Lakers coach, and has said she has copies of the e-mails where he used the language.

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104. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X36BYKKqQ8w"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X36BYKKqQ8w

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X36BYKKqQ8w

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105. "The Dejounte/Tre experiment over..."
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Dejounte to the Pels for Nance Jr, a 25 first, via the Lakers and a 27 first, via New Orleans/Milwaukee.

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108. "good move for Pels"
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the closer that CJ is moved to the 6th man the better they will be.

Don't expect Nance Jr to remain with them

Daniels is part of the new wing movement

DEANDRE HUNTER WE COMIN FOR YOU

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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111. "Is Golden State about to lose Klay and get PG?"
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112. "I’m pretty sure PG opting out means hes no longer an option"
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I believe that they would needed a sign a trade to bring him in (Have CP3 opt in, then package him and Kuminga). That doesnt seem to be on the table anymore.

As for Klay leaving, I’ll believe it when it happens.

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113. "Right on, that makes sense, regarding the opt out.."
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What's the temperature of Warrior Nation on Klay leaving? Do most folk you encounter feel like you do?

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114. "Yeah, I’d say so "
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>What's the temperature of Warrior Nation on Klay leaving? Do
>most folk you encounter feel like you do?

It’s REALLY hard to picture Klay in anything but a Warriors uniform. There’s the belief that he’s doing all of this to make sure the team doesn’t try to short change him.

It’s hard to envision what the post season moves would be like if he leaves. They’re already talking about trading Wiggins for Portis. With PG off the table, unless they find some other player to trade for, I assume that they just cut loose CP3. Don’t know what would happen after that, besides counting on Kuminga to further level up and be legit #2 scoring option.

If Klay leaves, it’s going to really have to be for personal reasons, because he won’t get more money anywhere else.

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116. "JB byke! Hired as new Pistons HC"
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117. "Need any more proof DeRozan is gone? Pat Williams 5/$90."
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It was gonna be very difficult to pay both of them.
And I think this is the right move.
Two years too late sadly, but it's the right move.

If Paul George goes to Philly, I'd love to see DeRozan go home to the Clippers.
Not sure how a s&t would work (if at all).

But THIS is the direction the Bulls SHOULD have started TWO YEARS AGO!
We could have got a LOT more for DeRozan, LaVine and Caruso back then.
Draft picks that would have really helped.

But you need an ownership group that understands that,
not one that's gonna make you hold on to your assets to keep
making the play in tournament.

Hopefully our 2025 pick is top 10 so we can add more talent.

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119. "Here we go, Fellas"
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120. "Harden staying with the Clips…2/70"
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121. "CP3 waived….who needs/wants him?"
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122. "San Antonio"
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123. "I really like this move for them."
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And someone can correct me if I'm wrong, the Spurs have a TON of picks for 2025.

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124. "bar a July suprise, Lord NyQuil (PG) going to Sixers"
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turned down Clippers
Clippers were not gonna trade him to GSW at any cost

they already got Drummond and Eric Gordon

I expect Oubre, Melton, and some others to return

depending on what else they do, Philly will leapfrog NY. last season their 3rd option was Tobias Harris. It will now be the NyQuil God

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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129. "Hartenstein to the Thunder?!?!"
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nah, fuck that.

curses on that franchise forever.

but yeah, that's exactly who they needed they may actually hit the finals next season.

  

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139. "you know what, I might have to join you in the hate this season"
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but the pettiest side of me says this is confirmation that "stretch 5s" don't cut it long-term against more dedicated centers.

see also: Memphis drafting Edey

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132. "Tobias Harris to Detroit: 2y/52M. METH CRYSTALS"
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absolute meth

WTF is this shit, did they not watch Philadelphia at all

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133. "he's tapped NBA teams' pockets for almost 300M. insane."
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137. "the difference between "hey tobias, we'd like to win 28 games""
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and "can you be a major piece on a finals team?"


they need someone who can be a credible player around cade and they had to overpay for one, on a short contract because the young guys will need extensions (and hopefully earn them)




www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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138. "Yeah, feels like a no-brainer move for Detroit."
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He wants money, you want guys who can actually score. And next year, having an expiring 26 mil contract is *such* a valuable trade piece if you want to flip him and any of the young pieces for a verifiable #2 for Cade.

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147. "This wasn't a salary floor move?"
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I was under the assumption Detroit did this to avoid spending below the salary floor.

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178. "had to be. because... "
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ain't no way he getting paid that on a playoff team.

self-awareness.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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135. "Embiid, PG and Maxey is a formidable trio. "
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Feels like it's just a matter of who is healthiest come playoffs time in the East, but I suppose it's always like that.

  

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136. "They going out in the 2nd round again"
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Embiid and PG will be broken as usual come the playoffs

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141. "It would be wise and prudent for Embiid and PG"
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to hand over the keys to the offense to Maxey so they can officially/unofficially load manage during the regular season and save themselves for the playoffs.

Depending on how shoddy the Sixers bench is as result of this free agency period, PG and Embiid might not have a choice in having the shoulder heavy minutes and/or usage during the regular season.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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175. "NO EXCUSES for Emplead and Playoff Pee!"
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___________________

Mar-A-Lago delenda est

  

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140. "I think the funniest part of Streetlights Over Spotlights..."
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Was that they did the best they've ever done - a WCF appearance.

Meanwhile, the Lakers got one of those in a down year.

Ah well.

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143. "Klay to the Mavs...3/50"
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144. "these are the sad times."
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when legacy players have to spend the end of their careers ring chasing.

not only because its usually an 'end of an era' type situation, but also because they are infrequently successful in getting those rings.

  

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145. "i wouldn't call that ring chasing. What's he supposed to do, sign for th..."
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same with the pistons?

you acting like he took the vet minimum to join boston

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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146. "i'm going off the reporting of him saying he choose Dallas..."
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because he thinks they can win a title by going there (which i think they got exposed and are FAR from despite being in the Finals this year - especially with how OKC has improved their team...a team they BARELY beat this year btw).

  

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161. "Choosing a contender isn't simply the same as ring chasing"
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Again, what should have done? Taken more money to go to Charlotte or some loser team?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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164. "I disagree. "
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Choosing a contender is LITERALLY ring chasing, LOL.

I never said it as a knock. You just assumed it a negative. I just hate these years of legends career. I GET why they do it, and no, I never expect them to go to a bad team for any reason at these points in their careers.

  

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165. ""these are the sad times" sure sounds like a negative."
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You 'hate these years of legends career'.

I get that you're not shitting on Klay, but for some reason him getting paid by a good team makes you sad?

Klay and G.S. needed to part ways...what could Klay have done that wouldn't have made you sad? lol

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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166. "of course it makes me sad."
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i'm a Warriors fan, but especially a Steph and Klay fan.

only thing Klay could have done to make me "happy" is take the veteran minimum and come off the bench.

of course he's not gonna do that so that's just me wishing and being selfish.

my point is it's generally sad and unsuccessful when these guys who are past their primes for whatever reasons have to go around chasing one last hit because it often only highlights them being past their primes.

i get the myriad of reasons why it happens, i just don't like it.

  

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167. "um, ok."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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168. "yup. could of "um, ok"'d it from your first reply."
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176. "Longtime players leave all the time."
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It's not like he signed somewhere for less, or even similar, money. He's not ring chasing necessarily. He wanted to sign to a good team. You guys threw him away. It happens.

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180. "pretty much...not sure what he was crying about lol"
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148. "Klay and Grimes coming off the bench"
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If both dudes have their minds right, that in theory could be a potent wing combination. It's too bad Klay lost some of his lateral movement as the two of them have the potential of being quite effective defensively.

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149. "Klay has not been effective defensively in 4 years"
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at this stage in his career he's a shooter. That's about it. If he's hitting he's useful. If he's not, it's really bad.

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150. "Not a horrible choice honestly. "
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I'm worried that Klay's days as a significant contributor to a good team might be behind him, but I think Dallas w/Luka and Kyrie drawing defenders and finding open shooters give him a good chance to make the most of his remaining ability.

If they play GS, I hope Dallas loses, but otherwise I'd love to see him have a nice coda to a great career.

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151. "RE: Klay to the Mavs...3/50"
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So... what type of contract was he asking for that they couldn't agree? I assumed he was still at least a 30 million/per just because of status.

  

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155. "Salute to a Dubs legend "
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There was a solid stretch there where every regular season game was appt tv for me. I still remember that game when they beat the lebron heatles and realized this was something special. Game 6’s. Steph in the Garden.

I’ll be telling my grandkids about it one day

  

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169. "I'm scurred..."
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>.

Its a tough situation.

Staying with the Dubs and being sent out of the rotation at worst ain't really a great look for Klay's career if he wanted a chance to 'push himself' one last time or two.

Buuuuut..

The challenge with most players is that they often make for horrid self-GMs. IE: Durant/Harden/Irving 'deciding' to play together, getting together, and then realizing, like everyone with sense did beforehand, that it wasn't going to work on or off the court was bad for all 3 of them, the Nets, and the league overall. I felt the same way about Hakeem, Chuck, and Pippen forever ago. Hell, I've been against most of the Nets 'we're going for it yawl' configurations the last 15-ish years.

Back to Klay, 3 for 50 with the Mavs is probably an easier life than being under the microscope with the Lebron Lakers. But the issue is still the issue: Klay might be set for a role that he can't sufficiently and consistently fill anymore (3 and D in the West or, even more scary, against a team coming out of the East). I hope I'm wrong at least for a year.

Free agency is freedom, right? If so, I see it is a net positive for the NBA. Dudes crying their way off of teams 1.2 years into crazy 4-5 year deals (aka The Harden) is a net negative. But if some dude has done his time somewhere and wants to go elsewhere, I'm good with it even if I think its the 'wrong elsewhere'!

  

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172. "KERA - Texas PBS, Dallas"
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Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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174. "LMAO!"
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that's gotta be Klay's new official OKS moniker.

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152. "Tatum locked up for 5 years $314 million"
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Breaking Brown’s record for the biggest deal.

Looks like Derrick White is also locked up for 4 years, 126 million.

I am very happy.

  

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170. "RE: Tatum locked up for 5 years $314 million"
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>Breaking Brown’s record for the biggest deal.
>
>Looks like Derrick White is also locked up for 4 years, 126
>million.
>
>I am very happy.

I hope the nucleus stays healthy so that someone has to beat them to win a title in the next few years. It could be really fun to see teams try. There were times where Boston looked inevitable (when they weren't driving people crazy with their weird inability to score sometimes).

The reality: staying healthy is fuggin hard to do!

  

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153. "Thanks for the memories, Klay"
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Pundits disagreed with the Warriors when they drafted him, but he quickly won everyone over.

A lock for the HOF just based on his Warriors career.

Part of the best backcourt of all time (yeah, I said it).

Arguably the second best shooter of all time.

For a period, very much the best shooting guard in the league and the best two-way guard (lol Jimmy Butler lol)

Big part of all the championship teams.

Some legendary games, both regular and post season. Game 6 Klay lives forever.

And they way he announced his first re-signing a few years back was also fucking legendary.

So, saltute. And when all is said and done, he'll still get his statue out in front of the Chase Center. And his number retired. Duh.


That being said, he's not going to find what he's apparently looking for in Dallas. Which is another championship. Pinning your hopes on any team where a big part of the equation is Kyrie in his post Cavs career is bad business. But I hope he at least has fun.


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154. "You really think he gets a statue?"
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No hate - seriously.

I just think, status as 2nd best shooter of all time or not, he feels like he’s an amazing, huge piece to the Warriors story - but the statues should probably only be Curry and Durant from that era. That’s me tho.

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156. "No way Durant gets a statue and Klay doesn’t. "
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157. "I was with you, lock-step..."
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till the KD part. I'm not saying KD won't get one...but, I don't think there is ANY universe in which KD gets one and Klay does NOT. So...prolly just Steph, lol.

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159. "I hear you. "
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Wasn’t gonna include him but feels weird not to with 2 FMVPs.

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158. "KD not getting no statue there lol"
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192. "is he gonna be the only HOFer / top75 to not get his jersey retired..."
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>
...by any of the teams he played for?


so weird

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193. "OKC will probably do it eventually."
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Once we get the Sonics and their history back, OKC will have no history of their own and will want to do SOMETHING for the historical look.

i can see them doing that for sure. i mean, played there for what, 8 seasons and won an MVP there? for a franchise with no history it seems historical enough to get your jersey in the rafters.

  

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162. "Durant? lmao, unless he comes back and wins 2 more chips for the Dubs"
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that aint happening.

Clay will definitely get a statue.

Will prolly be Steph, Horse fade and Clay when its all said and done.

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163. "All of the O.G. three are absolutely beloved and really important..."
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...to the WArriors and the community. For Klay, between Game 6 Klay, him and his dog, and him boating over to the Chase Center for his "commute," he's been insanely popular over the years. Plus, the Splash Bros. are a symbol of what this team has accomplished in the past decade or so. So, yeah, I think there's a pretty good chance.

I'm not sure how it's going to break down. Steph is obviously getting his own statue (he "built" the Chase Center). They could build separate statues for Klay and Draymond. But I think there's probably a decent chance that they make a "team" statue that features the main contributors to the championship teams: Klay, Draymond, KD, Iggy, and Kerr

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171. "Makes sense. "
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The politics are strange, I’m sure. Curry is the only one so very obviously getting one….from there, it’s a bit of a mess.

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177. "I'm not a Dubs fan, per se, but I follow them quite a bit"
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And to the nation, Klay seems less notable than Steph, of course, KD, and even Dray.

But I think to Bay Area Dub fans, Klay is probably second to Steph in terms of rank in popularity or just being a unique, quintessential rep of the Bay Area.

I think Klay was overlooked because he was always the third-most key player (or fourth-most when KD played), or at least relative to Dray because he ate up all the attention.

But he now has the sixth-most-made 3s of all time and likely could hit #3 before he retires. He was a 5x All-Star and 2x All-NBA, but he only made one All-Defense team.

But the point is that he did this while being, at best, the second option. You could argue that the GS system made him as much as he made the system. But in the right place, he could have scored closer to 25-27 ppg rather than the 19-21 he did with GS as the lead scorer.

I, personally, don't think a player has to live up to the Lakers' standard of being a top-20 player of all time to get a statue, especially since he was a key part of a dynasty, both on the court and culturally.

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160. "Tatum with more money than God - Franklin Saint"
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40476501/sources-celtics-jayson-tatum-agrees-5-year-314m-extension

  

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173. "Donovan back to Cavs, 3 years (2+1), $150M"
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GOOD.

Enough of the FUD from national media and what's left of the local media. Donovan was absolutely coming back; Knicks moved on, Heat is in 1st apron, Lakers... never mind

Donovan has been saying and hinting a return from well before the playoffs were over. He essentially said this in his IG story after the signing.

Them bum ass trolls are in a pack.

Donovan's tweet announcing it was great too: https://vxtwitter.com/spidadmitchell/status/1808122024805511659


JBB out, Kenny in (only reason the announcement was delayed, so that Kenny could have his day to shine). JA and DG NOT traded (and they better stay away from an Ingram deal).

Now it's time to get to business.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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182. "The Cavaliers also managed"
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to snag Johnny Bryant away from the Knicks. I don't know much about how the Knicks operate in terms of their assistant coaches since the front office and coaches don't talk to the press in general, but it seemed as if Bryant was something of a Julius Randle whisperer; I remember reading a report on him telling Randle to shoot a ton more three pointers two seasons ago in order to spread out the floor for himself and the team. I'm almost certain he was close to getting the Knicks record for made three pointers before he got injured toward the end of that season.

I also think Bryant and Donovan Mitchell already had a connection from their Utah days.

Wonder what the hire means in terms of the prospects of the Cavs solidifying things with Garland.

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179. "Buddy Hield to Warriors in S&T"
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Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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181. "I actually like the Warrior's off-season moves"
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The team is getting younger and more athletic. With CP3 and, well, Klay, too often they too slow out there. Pick-ups like Held, Anderson, and Melton should help with that.

Trading for Markkanen would be kinda huge if the Warriors could pull it off. It would give them size, more relative youth, and the legit #2 scorer they're looking for. What they're willing to give up obviously plays the biggest factor here. All talk has been the focus of the proposed trade has been draft-picks, but after the Knicks gave up five-rounders for Bridges, I worry that that becomes the new asking price. I'd also prefer if they didn't trade Kuminga, who, again, realy could make the leap this season. But that may well be what's needed to get it done. Can't call it from there.

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184. "Summer league. Flip looking real G Leagueish out there "
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Salt Lake City Stars

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185. "I like the little I've seen of Adem Bona for Philly."
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also Edey makes me think that given the type of bigs Memphis likes to run that he's gonna cook over there

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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186. "Bona ia a goon, he knows his role."
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Edy is gonna be a solid pro.

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187. "Jalen Brunson pockets curvy"
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4 yrs 156 million...left possibly 113 mil on the table.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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188. "if they win a chip tho, hes MSG royalty"
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like, Willis Reed/Mark Messier/Bruno Sammartino tier

also sounds like more of a deferral, because in his option year he'll hit a bunch of triggers for close to a half billy

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189. "Brunson the realest"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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201. "dumb , he gets hurt they’re gonna fuck him like Celtics did w Isiah Th..."
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>4 yrs 156 million...left possibly 113 mil on the table.

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204. "It sets him up to go 4/323 in 2027. "
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Yeah, it's a gamble

But it gives the Knicks some real cap flexibility over the next few years as the cap increases and then he's able to sign a deal that pays him 80 million a year starting the 27/28 season, 17 more than if he'd waited.

It's a win win. He's generationally wealthy with this one deal and even if things go south, he's set for a few lifetimes.

As it stands, he positions his team to seriously contend and could make up those losses and then some on a later deal.

Oh, and he's basically enshrined himself as Knicks royalty by doing this.

The downside is minimal relative to the upside, which is serious.

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219. "the (years)/(millions) salary ratios so crazy now, my first thought was...."
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.."his shooting pct??"

  

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190. "Whitmore doesn’t need to play another second of summer league."
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191. "lot of rookies looking really good."
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even some of the ones where the average fan doesn't really know what to expect.

Whitmore, Knecht and Sheppard really stand out.

but even the foreigners like Buzelis, Rissacher (sp?) and Sarr have all looked good to very good.

i know i'm missing some guys too. i've tried to pay attention but haven't caught everyone.

seems like, in a year where people (including me tbh) thought the draft prospects sucked, this could end up being a surprisingly talent-rich draft in hindsight in 3 to 5 years.

  

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194. "Jaquez was out there fuckin it up for everybody else it looked like"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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195. "Alex Sarr needs more playing time."
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He must remain the gym after that clunker he put up as number 2 pick.

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196. "RE: 2024 NBA Offseason: Draft, Trades, Free Agency, Coaching Carousel"
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if you guys take your left hand and make a circle, then take your right hand and with your index and middle finger penetrate the circle feverishly, thats what the New York Knickerbockers will be doing to the league all year if they can stay relatively healthy.

  

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197. "Westbrook heading to Denver via Utah"
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10126650-report-russell-westbrook-traded-to-jazz-expected-to-land-with-nuggets-after-buyout

  

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198. "Sarr looking real shaky out there. "
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199. "he looked fine game 1. strange."
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maybe just bad luck but something to keep an eye on for sure.

  

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200. "at one point (a year ago or so), Buzelis was the projected #1 pick."
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he looks like it shoulda stayed that way.

Chicago got a steal.

  

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202. "Fantastic summer league championship game."
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203. "Lebron using the Olympics as a pro-Goat infomercial is creative"
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clever work by the Klutch group fenagling Bron's way to flag bearer status

  

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205. "the crashing your helicopter on a mountain tactic was taken already"
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206. "Seriously nigga"
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217. "as serious as that 2015 doc made to put him in the GOAT debate"
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you know, the same thing the asshole poster tried to accuse Bron of doing

yeah well, Kobe bitch ass actually did that shit foreal

like we forgot.

remember? he was pissed the GOAT debate (at that time) was all about MJ and Bron and NOT his selfish ass

i aint forget.

  

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207. "still time to edit. you're on the list though."
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208. "You’re better than this*"
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* I assume

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211. "wow"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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213. "So, you good with joking about a child dying?"
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Now that you’re past the edit period, figured we’d just get it on the record.

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215. "no joke about it. write it down, take a picture, idgaf"
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Ryan M
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218. "Sports isn’t this serious. Grow up. "
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Amritsar
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220. "The fuck. "
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209. "If he's going to have to do all this heavy lifting"
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I wonder if he'll be sluggish going into the start of the regular season.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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210. "narcissism first / legs later"
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>I wonder if he'll be sluggish going into the start of the
>regular season.

  

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Numba_33
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212. "I'm far from being a Lakers fan, so I don't care that deeply."
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I have to imagine folks that support that Purple and Gold will think otherwise though.

Or maybe not. Not my problem as I'm a Knicks fan, so it's tough for me to put myself in the mindset of a Lakers fan going into the 24/25 season.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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216. "mindset isnt hard, just remove logic and reasoning from your thoughts"
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with a HEAVY dose of delusion

  

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221. "the absolute AUDACITY to cite narcissism with a Tiger Woods sn"
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you’s a silly hoe

  

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Ryan M
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222. "Time for an internet break!"
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223. "lmao!! ay!! fuck you AND kobe, lol"
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214. "He and AD will both be cooked by Christmas"
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We'll struggle and people will be screaming all season for Pelinka to trade what few assets we have for Jerami Grant or Lavine or some bullshit just to give Bron the pretense of a real shot this year or the next.

This shit is over and we're his hostage until he retires.

-Sig-

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-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

  

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226. "This is pretty much my take too"
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>This shit is over and we're his hostage until he retires.

I like LeBron as a player, but the heavy baggage he brings in terms of the institutional deference it takes to satisfy him is annoying. He's a top 15 player now, not the best one who can nearly guarantee a Finals run or a chip.

Aside from that 2020 title, this team modeled their leadership style after Succession. Then again, the Buss' have always had more than enough drama, so I really shouldn't be surprised how things have played out.

I think the reality is that this franchise won at a truly exceptional and historic rate for over 30 years. Yes, we've been mismanaged over the last 15 years. But, even with Lakers Exceptionalism®, it just isn't possible to always be one of the top handful of teams with the rule changes and how competitive the teams are due to the massive sums of money invested by their governors.

It sucks to think this, but what we're experiencing is likely just a return to being a good team, just not a historically well-run one. We can dream of Jeannie throwing a bunch of money at Bob Myers to restore our shine, though.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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224. "USA blows out Serbia in opening game"
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That was fun af to watch. Bron & KD came out shooting perfect and it carried into the 2nd half dominance of a very good Serbian team.

Watching Bron, Steph & KD together in particular is extra special. To me it's on par with watching Jordan, Magic & Bird play together during the Dream Team in terms of all time pantheon greatness.

It's amazing to see how the game has grown globally since 1992. During the Dream Team run, they only faced 9 NBA players on opposing teams. Now? Team USA is facing 61 NBA players on opposing teams. The competition is an entirely different animal now - which is great for the game.

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225. "You think Kerr is creating controversy with the Tatum thing?"
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As in, unnecessary controversy. Jayson Tatum being a bench warmer was not on my bingo card. White getting picked over Brown and Tatum getting ZERO mins is wild. A first team all-nba player getting zero playing time seems like a weird distraction to create.

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228. "he says this was all discussed beforehand"
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bigs and guards vs Serbia, with more wings and athleticism tomorrow

and tbh, isnt it only a controversy if they lose?

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229. "I need people (and hsow producers) to turn off twitter"
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it's not a controversy

it would be less respectful to play him for a couple minutes of garbage time

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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231. "people are making a huge deal of it"
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it's one game. he's gonna play.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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227. "that game made me appreciate Jokic even more "
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>That was fun af to watch. Bron & KD came out shooting
>perfect and it carried into the 2nd half dominance of a very
>good Serbian team.
>
>Watching Bron, Steph & KD together in particular is extra
>special. To me it's on par with watching Jordan, Magic & Bird
>play together during the Dream Team in terms of all time
>pantheon greatness.
>
>It's amazing to see how the game has grown globally since
>1992. During the Dream Team run, they only faced 9 NBA
>players on opposing teams. Now? Team USA is facing 61 NBA
>players on opposing teams. The competition is an entirely
>different animal now - which is great for the game.
>
>-->



With him on the court their +- was a zero

Soon as he got a breather … -26 lol

EPITOME of an MVP type player

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230. "dude is incredible and that was the greatest showcase ever"
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one of these teams had KEVIN DURANT coming off the bench


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233. "insane stat"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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232. "i love seeing how much fun they are all having playing together"
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they beat up on a good team.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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234. "Honestly this is the best part. "
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Everyone seems to be having a ball. They’ve bought in and want the medal. They’re almost all superstars and most are all stars. They’re having a lot of fun and it’s contagious to watch. I’m sure ego exists on the team, but the fun part of the Olympic team is the illusion the egos simply don’t exist.

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235. "Bron and KD are something else, man. "
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Lots of cool shit on this team but it’s great to see the old dudes still being the best.

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236. "Joel Embid presence and behavior on this team is cringe and immature af"
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The fact he’s even on the team is questionable in itself



>Monty fired, which is insane, but expected. I’d say Cavs is
>the smart choice as far as open jobs are, but let’s be real.
>Wherever he goes he’ll be fired in 4 years if he’s lucky.
>
>
>Coaching is a great gig if you want to get paid to fuck off,
>but not if you want long term stability.
>
>https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40385485/sources-pistons-fire-coach-monty-williams-one-season

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237. "He's a clown"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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238. "It's both dumb and funny."
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Honestly, it was so strange to me he missed one shot yesterday and had like a +20 or something. Just felt like every minute he was in the offense looked horrific.

It's KINDA funny though...especially now that when he does the arm thing, the bench is doing it too.

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239. "he always came off cringe and immature."
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never understood the praise he gets

  

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240. "At least he’s playing well and delivering while looking doofy "
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>never understood the praise he gets

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241. "agreed"
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