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"CFP committee unanimously passes 12 team playoff "


          

cry about it bitchezzzz!!!



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won't see me crying. i actually like it. would like it to be 16.
Feb 20th 2024
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32 makes more sense
Feb 21st 2024
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      YOUR SARCASM IS DULY NOTED.
Feb 21st 2024
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           I believe you. It's already watered down, whats a few more ounces
Feb 21st 2024
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           lmao
Feb 21st 2024
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are we still riding with the theory
Feb 21st 2024
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absolutely not, and it was never gonna be that way
Feb 21st 2024
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not sure that was ever a theory
Feb 22nd 2024
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      that's a lie! it was most def a theory
Feb 22nd 2024
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           yep.
Feb 22nd 2024
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           how is “not sure if it was ever a theory” a lie? lmao
Feb 22nd 2024
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                because it was absolutely discussed here
Feb 22nd 2024
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14 teams already being discussed, so I'll get my 16 soon enough.
Feb 21st 2024
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the backlash has begun on twitter
Feb 22nd 2024
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i was thinking how NFL fan backlash would compare
Feb 22nd 2024
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probably depends
Feb 22nd 2024
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they just fucked with the playoff format 3 years ago!!
Feb 22nd 2024
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      those are not changes to its fundamental nature
Feb 22nd 2024
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           right
Feb 22nd 2024
33
fans been crying about the NFL changing for years with all these bogus f...
Feb 22nd 2024
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Feb 22nd 2024
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      and yet mich heavily utilized the portal for their championship
Feb 22nd 2024
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           i dont have problems with the idea of the portal
Feb 22nd 2024
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           I'm failing to see the distinction or how it changes my statement
Feb 24th 2024
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                i made the distinction in my very first sentence
Feb 24th 2024
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                     grad transfers dont get NIL checks?
Feb 24th 2024
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                          alright well if thats your big takeaway im moving on
Feb 24th 2024
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                               LOL! there's no big takeaway because you don't have a point
Feb 24th 2024
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           This threat if not caring or eventually not watching is bullshit
Feb 23rd 2024
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           your make believe examples are quite compelling
Feb 23rd 2024
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           sure thing mr “I fear the day I stop caring is rapidly approaching”
Feb 24th 2024
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           RE: This threat if not caring or eventually not watching is bullshit
Feb 24th 2024
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                as a PITT fan who grew up on Big East Basketball in the 80's and 90's
Feb 24th 2024
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                     I never said the world is ending
Feb 24th 2024
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                          its hyperbole
Feb 25th 2024
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           I never said ANYTHING about not caring.
Feb 25th 2024
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what is it about 16 that would make you happier?
Feb 22nd 2024
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      nothing. i just don't have a problem with inclusion.
Feb 22nd 2024
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           I was trying to not be sarcastic and have a discussion.
Feb 22nd 2024
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                😂
Feb 22nd 2024
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                go awf.
Feb 22nd 2024
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                     What is it that's magical about 16 teams?
Feb 22nd 2024
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                     nothing is "magical" about 16, or any number.
Feb 22nd 2024
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                          16 beating 1 isn't compelling to me.
Feb 22nd 2024
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                               right. it is to me, but that's my opinion.
Feb 22nd 2024
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                               I bet you think opinions cant be wrong, dont you?!?!?!
Feb 22nd 2024
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                                    awwww.
Feb 22nd 2024
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                                         5+7 kind of waters down the intrigue I think you might be longer for
Feb 22nd 2024
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                               16 beating 1 would be pretty wlld to me. and not realistic.
Feb 22nd 2024
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                                    also indicative of a major problem
Feb 22nd 2024
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                                    typically the gap between 3 and 4 has been pretty wide
Feb 22nd 2024
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                                    we used to say the same thing about March madness
Feb 23rd 2024
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                     i dont care if its competitive tbh
Feb 22nd 2024
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everything changes
Feb 23rd 2024
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1. "won't see me crying. i actually like it. would like it to be 16."
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2. "32 makes more sense "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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3. "YOUR SARCASM IS DULY NOTED."
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however, i'm deadass.

  

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4. "I believe you. It's already watered down, whats a few more ounces"
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>however, i'm deadass.

http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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5. "lmao"
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6. "are we still riding with the theory "
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that the lesser schools will be able to recruit with the elites because they'll now have a realistic shot at the playoffs?

or has the NIL/transfer portal nullified whatever advantage playoff inclusion was supposed to bring?

I know this type of shift would probably need YEARS before it came to fruition. But I'm just not buying that kids are gonna turn down the elites to go to UCF because there's now a chance to make the playoffs. If the NIL money ain't right I don't think any of these kids will care about the chance to be the 12th seed in a playoff they have no chance at winning.

  

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7. "absolutely not, and it was never gonna be that way"
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as evidenced by the idea of 2 G5 autobids being discarded with extreme prejudice

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9. "not sure that was ever a theory"
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every so often a smaller school will put it all together and have a solid team that could lead to an upset.

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13. "that's a lie! it was most def a theory"
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and one of, if not the main selling point of all this.

if we're not figuring out a way to equate roster talent then playoff expansion is nothing more than a ruse for tv networks to fatten their pockets.


>every so often a smaller school will put it all together and
>have a solid team that could lead to an upset.

"could" is strictly your opinion/speculation.

it's just an impossible position to understand given that the talent gap continues to widen.

  

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15. "yep."
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ive said for years that the only way to make this work is for multiple G5 autobids, and as soon as it broke that way a few months ago they couldnt change it fast enough

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29. "how is “not sure if it was ever a theory” a lie? lmao"
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and yes, playoffs are about money, always have been and always will be.

You think networks pay for games because of the love of the sport?

wtf

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39. "because it was absolutely discussed here"
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Thu Feb-22-24 05:25 PM by 3xKrazy

          

that greater playoff inclusion would lead to a more level playing field for recruiting

yes everything is always about money but there's a spectrum. and right now it feels like we've lost the plot.

  

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8. "14 teams already being discussed, so I'll get my 16 soon enough."
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39572477/cfp-officials-discuss-expanding-14-team-playoff-2026

  

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10. "the backlash has begun on twitter"
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and the solution when the bottom falls out will be to go back in time 40 years and only televise "big" games, and then the sport is dead

im glad UM won a championship while i still cared, because im afraid the day i stop caring is rapidly approaching

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12. "i was thinking how NFL fan backlash would compare"
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if the powers that be mutilated their sport like we're seeing with cfb

  

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14. "probably depends"
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if they broke up the NFC East or AFC West, those people would react very badly

but if they started fucking with the playoff format i think people would just shrug

like we've spoken about before, my main issue with the NFL is that they squeeze out college football on days that aren't Sunday, or Monday night.

next is the MLK day playoff game, shitting on the equity it took basketball years to build on that day

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31. "they just fucked with the playoff format 3 years ago!! "
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The fuck is yall talking about?

added a 17th game.

Only one team gets a bye now.

even had someone come on here and complain about the first weekend of games AFTER Dallas was upset.

Some of yall stuck on auto-complaint mode and just be saying shit.


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32. "those are not changes to its fundamental nature"
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33. "right"
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tinkering with the nfl playoffs is not a good comparison to the changes occurring in cfb

  

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30. "fans been crying about the NFL changing for years with all these bogus f..."
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doesn’t stop anyone from watching although folks love to talk about how they are almost done watching

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21. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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>im glad UM won a championship while i still cared, because im
>afraid the day i stop caring is rapidly approaching

FACTS - and not just because of CFP expansion, but the super-conferences and transfer portal/NIL are completely changing what the game even is.

  

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35. "and yet mich heavily utilized the portal for their championship"
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>FACTS - and not just because of CFP expansion, but the
>super-conferences and transfer portal/NIL are completely
>changing what the game even is.

im not buying that the two of you are suddenly going to stop caring.

  

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36. "i dont have problems with the idea of the portal"
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but the portal acting as a de facto free agent market is just...too pro-y to me.

and Michigan's transfer activity isnt really like other places (for better or worse depending on POV) bc the school wont accept late term undergrad transfers for the most part. Terrance Shannon and Caleb Love both wanted to come play basketball at Michigan and neither were able to enroll.

guys like Wallace, Nugent, Henderson, Barner were all grad transfers.

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45. "I'm failing to see the distinction or how it changes my statement"
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>and Michigan's transfer activity isnt really like other places
>(for better or worse depending on POV) bc the school wont
>accept late term undergrad transfers for the most part.

that mich heavily utilized the portal these past few years.

I'm not a fan of the portal craziness either but it's here and it's really just an extension of recruiting at this point. Get with it or get left behind.

I guess it challenges our sensibilities in that we had this romanticized notion of kids getting recruited out of HS who had popped outta the womb wanting to buckeyes or wolverines and this is such a dream come true yada yada...but those scenarios probably represented <1% of all recruitments. HS recruits have always made their decisions out of self-interest (who can offer them the best opportunities) and the portal is no different.

  

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47. "i made the distinction in my very first sentence"
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these are not bidded-on players. these are grad students who most people never heard of until they had success at Michigan. if there is no distinction to you, thats fine.

>I'm not a fan of the portal craziness either but it's here and
>it's really just an extension of recruiting at this point. Get
>with it or get left behind.

right...and its leaving me behind. thats my point. i dont want Georgia Tech or UM playing professional football without the enforceable contracts or roster limits, where the best programs are the ones with the most die hard Buddy Garritty types.

>I guess it challenges our sensibilities in that we had this
>romanticized notion of kids getting recruited out of HS who
>had popped outta the womb wanting to buckeyes or wolverines
>and this is such a dream come true yada yada...but those
>scenarios probably represented <1% of all recruitments. HS
>recruits have always made their decisions out of self-interest
>(who can offer them the best opportunities) and the portal is
>no different.

i never felt that way. what i appreciate was that wherever someone landed, we watched kids and relationships mature over a period of years, and then when it was over they were Yellow Jackets, or Buckeyes, or Trojans, or whatever...forever.

the things about cfb that are buckling the most under late capitalism are specifically the things i like the most about it.

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48. "grad transfers dont get NIL checks?"
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>these are not bidded-on players. these are grad students who
>most people never heard of until they had success at Michigan.
> if there is no distinction to you, thats fine.

seems like we're desperately grasping for some sort of moral high ground here.

mich got a LB transfer from maryland this past offseason who im pretty sure was coveted by osu.

  

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49. "alright well if thats your big takeaway im moving on"
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51. "LOL! there's no big takeaway because you don't have a point"
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and I assume that's a yes that grad transfers still get checks

  

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41. "This threat if not caring or eventually not watching is bullshit"
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folks been making these threats for years..

then their school gets a serious squad and they are all about it.

Which is why I call bullshit on all these complaints about these changes. These aren’t huge changes. Sure, teams move to new conferences but that has been happening for a long ass time and its not like the actual game is changing.

Its still football

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42. "your make believe examples are quite compelling"
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as is your commitment to the density required to ignore everything everyone here has ever said to you while you keep referring to your made up examples

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44. "sure thing mr “I fear the day I stop caring is rapidly approaching”"
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lol

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46. "RE: This threat if not caring or eventually not watching is bullshit"
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>folks been making these threats for years..
>
>then their school gets a serious squad and they are all about
>it.

it did strike me as a bit of preemptive plea copping given that mich is about to face some lean years...

it's not going to be some overnight thing where people suddenly stop caring (especially if your team is balling out)...but certainly over a duration of time I can see some people fading out.

march madness has been a slow deterioration from where it was 20+ years ago.


>Which is why I call bullshit on all these complaints about
>these changes. These aren’t huge changes. Sure, teams move
>to new conferences but that has been happening for a long ass
>time and its not like the actual game is changing.

you gotta keep in mind that we got 4 mich/osu fans in this convo. we are going to be more reactionary to these changes given what the rivalry game has meant to our cfb upbringings. these changes make the game next to meaningless now.

  

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50. "as a PITT fan who grew up on Big East Basketball in the 80's and 90's"
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I chuckle at the way you guys act like the world is ending due to conference realignment and playoff changes.

I get your frustration but at the same time, I call bullshit on not caring or walking away because things are changing.

y'all just late as fuck on some real change in your conference.


I graduated from VCU. We left the CAA for the A-10 and now there are rumors of moving to the Big East.

"Change gone come"

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52. "I never said the world is ending"
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and i never saId I was walking away from anything. I'll be here rooting for my team, same as always.

you're allowed to like the changes and other people are allowed to dislike them. its not really any deeper than that.

  

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54. "its hyperbole"
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53. "I never said ANYTHING about not caring. "
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That would be WILD. I went to Michigan, I’m not just a fan. That’s my school and I’ll ride for that team regardless of anything and I’ll always care.

I’ve said in other posts that 2003-4 felt like the end of an era just based on the amount of change going into this next season. Super conferences, NIL based transfers, coaches retiring or leaving for the NFL, playoff expansion, etc. I’m glad we won a chip during this era. We never won one during the BCS era. Next year starts a new era and the game is absolutely changing. I think teams will start being build for the playoffs specifically instead of being built to win in conference. Partially because with the huge conferences I think the conference identities will be diluted (especially in the Big 10). But also because with a longer playoff tournament it will be about the teams who are best able to go from week to week in that format instead of having a perfect/near perfect regular season.

I hope Michigan does well in the new format. But I'm still very happy that we won one in the 4 team playoff era.

  

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11. "what is it about 16 that would make you happier?"
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16. "nothing. i just don't have a problem with inclusion."
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even if those top teams are infrequently challenged, they WILL get challenged here and there, and that's enough for me.

but, i don't think it should go beyond 16, EVER.

  

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17. "I was trying to not be sarcastic and have a discussion. "
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BUt the answer is NOTHING.

cool.

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18. "😂"
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19. "go awf."
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the "nothing" was my gut reaction but the actual answer is right there.

i think more inclusion makes me "happier" it's just that "happier" isn't the right word. i'm just for inclusion (to a point). i think beyond top 16 you lose too much competitiveness. up to that point? the more the merrier.

nothing about the CFB Playoff makes me happy or sad (outside of my team winning or losing).

  

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20. "What is it that's magical about 16 teams?"
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And if you lose competitiveness over 16, do you agree that you lose competitiveness going up from 12? Or from 4?

  

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22. "nothing is "magical" about 16, or any number."
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i just think 16 is about the spot where competitiveness of any signifigance starts to decline rapidly.

yes to 12 and 4, but i think the intrigue you gain with potential upsets is worth it. a 16 beating a 1 is typically tons more compelling than 4 beating 1.

  

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23. "16 beating 1 isn't compelling to me. "
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But that's just my opinion.

  

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24. "right. it is to me, but that's my opinion."
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we're just here sharing opinions, lol.

  

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25. "I bet you think opinions cant be wrong, dont you?!?!?!"
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26. "awwww."
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you're precious.

  

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27. "5+7 kind of waters down the intrigue I think you might be longer for"
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with 6+6 a jabroni conference champ was gonna get a spot and possibly (probably) leapfrog a team finishing 3rd or 4th in a power 5. Now, they will just stay in the 20s to complain that the field needs to be bigger. The constant goal post moving gets so old and lessens and lessens cfb.......imo.

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34. "16 beating 1 would be pretty wlld to me. and not realistic."
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as a frame of reference, okie st. finished 16 this year. they lost at home to southern alabama and were absolutely destroyed by texas.

  

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37. "also indicative of a major problem"
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the gap between #1 in the polls and #16 in the polls should not be so wide

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38. "typically the gap between 3 and 4 has been pretty wide "
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so yeah

  

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40. "we used to say the same thing about March madness"
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while I don’t think it will happen soon I do think one year we could see it happen. Especially if 16 is an OK State.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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28. "i dont care if its competitive tbh"
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i care that it's set up in a way that allows any conference champion to participate, and puts everyone else at SEVERE risk of missing out.

thats how you serve 2 masters without killing the goose, but they are poking and prodding at its tummy with alarming frequency now

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43. "everything changes"
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although I'll miss the fact that college football was maybe the only sport where a couple dozen teams could end their postseason with a victory

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