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"2024 NFL Coaching and GM Carousel Post"


          

Reports: Commanders, who secured the #2 pick in the 24 draft are expected to part ways with Ron Rivera.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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I feel like Magic will push for the #1 to get Caleb Williams…
Jan 07th 2024
1
Arthur Smith out
Jan 08th 2024
2
he was useless
Jan 08th 2024
3
      He refused to use his best playmakers on offense
Jan 08th 2024
4
What else is open or expected to be open?
Jan 08th 2024
5
Riverboat Ron gone
Jan 08th 2024
6
Good riddance
Jan 08th 2024
8
Rivera gone....Panthers fire GM, Scott Fitterer
Jan 08th 2024
7
They brought in Bob Myers to tell them what everyone already knows?
Jan 08th 2024
9
wonder where Eric Beinemy ends up now
Jan 08th 2024
10
Most likely gone.
Jan 09th 2024
25
RE: Most likely gone.
Jan 09th 2024
28
‘Manders players hated him
Jan 09th 2024
29
      Is he supposed to come in buddy buddy with guys on a losing team?
Jan 09th 2024
30
Vrabel fired
Jan 09th 2024
11
New England?
Jan 09th 2024
12
damn it seems like people were saying he was one of the best coaches...
Jan 09th 2024
13
Wow I’m surprised we did it but the game is the game.
Jan 09th 2024
14
Ridiculous.
Jan 09th 2024
15
Not really.
Jan 09th 2024
18
      We'll see in a year or two.....
Jan 09th 2024
19
           Has Vrabel made an AFC championship?
Jan 09th 2024
20
                Yeah man we almost made the SB
Jan 09th 2024
21
                     okay, then yeah.. I can see why a fan would be upset
Jan 09th 2024
23
Wow
Jan 09th 2024
16
Next coach of THE Ohio State University, (wishful thinking)
Jan 09th 2024
17
Just heard Vrabel was in Krafts suite during the TN bye
Jan 09th 2024
22
They interviewed a Panther rep when they fired the GM
Jan 09th 2024
24
RE: They interviewed a Panther rep when they fired the GM
Jan 09th 2024
26
      yep, but doing it after the season is hilarious
Jan 10th 2024
31
all i know is i don't want to lose AP
Jan 09th 2024
27
Damn... this is something I didn't think about
Jan 10th 2024
32
      I never put anything past these owners...
Jan 10th 2024
33
      I feel like the Chargers are a no brainer choice for Harbaugh...
Jan 10th 2024
34
      you gotta try for Harbs if you the Raiders
Jan 10th 2024
35
           RE: you gotta try for Harbs if you the Raiders
Jan 10th 2024
39
                they already went head up in a super bowl
Jan 10th 2024
41
PETE CARROLL GONE AS HC
Jan 10th 2024
36
upgrade to Dan Quinn
Jan 10th 2024
37
This is what you wanted right?
Jan 10th 2024
40
      absolutely. while i haven't taken a poll...
Jan 10th 2024
42
           he should have been banned for life for his call in Super Bowl 49
Jan 10th 2024
43
                LOL
Jan 11th 2024
46
                     good call, bad throw. down and away is TD or inc
Jan 11th 2024
47
Pete Carroll out too…
Jan 10th 2024
38
Patriots and Belichick Part Ways
Jan 11th 2024
44
nothing last forever…
Jan 11th 2024
45
We couldn't draft a new young QB with Bill there
Jan 11th 2024
48
Can you with Vrabel?
Jan 11th 2024
49
      I think so. He has the personality to make it work
Jan 11th 2024
61
           Seemed like he was Tannehill or die
Jan 11th 2024
62
keep hearing Bill can go somewhere else and immediately have success
Jan 11th 2024
50
Sean Payton jut turned 60 & he's probably the oldest HC we'll see hired....
Jan 11th 2024
51
while age is part of it, its more than that
Jan 11th 2024
53
I think Bill has proven he can still coach a top 10 defense
Jan 11th 2024
52
      can he hire a good OC?
Jan 11th 2024
54
      The closest to Brady playing right today is Mahomes
Jan 11th 2024
56
           RE: The closest to Brady playing right today is Mahomes
Jan 11th 2024
57
           Bill isn’t some random retread 70 year old coach
Jan 11th 2024
58
                RE: Bill isn’t some random retread 70 year old coach
Jan 11th 2024
59
                     Bill can still coach defense
Jan 11th 2024
60
           man, that was 20 years ago
Jan 12th 2024
64
           yeah I wasn't even going to bring that up I've made too many posts...
Jan 12th 2024
66
           Brady threw for 350+ with 3 TDs in his 2nd SB nm
Jan 17th 2024
108
      RE: I think Bill has proven he can still coach a top 10 defense
Jan 11th 2024
55
The end of an era.
Jan 11th 2024
63
      Astute analysis, as always.
Jan 12th 2024
76
Patriots had somebody on the way over…
Jan 12th 2024
65
He was already in the house he just changed bedrooms lol
Jan 12th 2024
67
im curious about this loophole
Jan 12th 2024
68
Graziano said it’s BEEN filed with the league office…
Jan 12th 2024
69
but Mayo is Black.. so why would a team have to interview Black candidat...
Jan 12th 2024
70
      it should be obvious I am speaking in general not about Mayo.
Jan 12th 2024
71
      lmao.
Jan 12th 2024
72
      bruh.. you think owners minds are blown at this loophole
Jan 12th 2024
75
      I think this is what the potential issue is
Jan 12th 2024
73
           just reads funny
Jan 12th 2024
74
I'm now praying we get Williams or Maye in the draft
Jan 14th 2024
78
Rumors of Tomlin stepping back growing louder
Jan 14th 2024
77
Thinking about it now I can't really blame him if he did...
Jan 14th 2024
79
      its chicken and egg with Tomlin
Jan 15th 2024
83
Jerry's gotta go for Harbaugh right?
Jan 15th 2024
80
him or Vrabel. i cant see either putting up w/ Jerry though
Jan 15th 2024
81
      Harbaugh definitely not
Jan 15th 2024
82
      I think Harbaugh is at point where he can demand what he wants...
Jan 15th 2024
85
           Life demonstrates old ass men are who they are and they won’t change
Jan 15th 2024
86
                RE: Life demonstrates old ass men are who they are and they won’t chan...
Jan 15th 2024
87
                     RE: Life demonstrates old ass men are who they are and they won’t chan...
Jan 15th 2024
88
                          RE: Life demonstrates old ass men are who they are and they won’t chan...
Jan 16th 2024
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                               RE: Life demonstrates old ass men are who they are and they won’t chan...
Jan 16th 2024
94
                                    "old ass men are who they are"
Jan 16th 2024
95
      RE: him or Vrabel. i cant see either putting up w/ Jerry though
Jan 15th 2024
84
Belichick interviewed falcons?
Jan 15th 2024
89
That's a really bad fit
Jan 16th 2024
91
he left without an offer
Jan 16th 2024
92
      I think this was an "out of respect" interview, everyone says Bill needs...
Jan 16th 2024
93
      Panthers are the worst option availabe
Jan 16th 2024
98
Any job at this point is bad for him....
Jan 16th 2024
100
agree completely
Jan 16th 2024
102
      man can’t survive without those white wr’s and te’s
Jan 17th 2024
103
      100%
Jan 17th 2024
106
Having 2nd interview with Atlanta
Jan 18th 2024
114
      never thought it would be ATL
Jan 20th 2024
119
           I agree
Jan 20th 2024
120
Tomlin is running it back
Jan 16th 2024
96
lol...
Jan 16th 2024
97
Mad-Makin' Mike! LMAO...
Jan 16th 2024
99
expected him to finish his contract..
Jan 16th 2024
101
Lol someone wants to interview Carolina's D coordinator
Jan 17th 2024
104
I bet every answer he gives D, they do the opposite.. lol
Jan 17th 2024
105
Cowboys keeping McCarthy.....
Jan 17th 2024
107
Not surprised at all…
Jan 18th 2024
109
Sorry bro
Jan 18th 2024
112
      *daps*
Jan 18th 2024
115
It'll be the same result next year.
Jan 18th 2024
110
LMAO!..
Jan 18th 2024
111
So Irsay almost OD’d in December
Jan 18th 2024
113
RE: So Irsay almost OD’d in December
Jan 19th 2024
118
AP tearing off that interim tag. Good for him.
Jan 19th 2024
116
AP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 19th 2024
117
Did Bowles do enough? That defense looked shaky
Jan 21st 2024
121
Are you serious?
Jan 22nd 2024
123
      about what, man?
Jan 22nd 2024
124
           about Bowles, TB wasn’t even supposed to be competitive this year
Jan 22nd 2024
125
                my bad, I legit thought he was on the hot seat...
Jan 23rd 2024
128
                     He definitely was on the hot seat. Not anymore after playoff run
Jan 23rd 2024
132
                     Okay, thought I remembered that
Jan 23rd 2024
133
                          division winner after the “GOAT” retired on the “hot seat”?
Jan 23rd 2024
134
                               lmao.. the Black part is true, but you can win the NFC South at 8-9
Jan 23rd 2024
143
                                    It doesn’t matter he won with qb everyone else gave up on
Jan 23rd 2024
144
                                         everyone? You mean Cleveland who has 40 different QB’s start
Jan 26th 2024
189
                     he was. they were 4-7 at one point
Jan 23rd 2024
142
Brian Callahan to Tennessee?
Jan 22nd 2024
122
i dont even know who that is
Jan 22nd 2024
126
      His dad was the Raiders and Nebraska coach
Jan 23rd 2024
127
      I immediately thought they hired his dad when I saw that name
Jan 23rd 2024
136
      the only reason I do is because his pops was Dallas OC for a minute
Jan 23rd 2024
129
Eagles fire former DC, Sean Desai....
Jan 23rd 2024
130
Eagles fire OC, Brian Johnson.....ok, so Nick stays...coordinators go
Jan 23rd 2024
131
      I dunno how he was interviewing for HC jobs last week
Jan 23rd 2024
135
           Leftwich II?
Jan 23rd 2024
138
Chargers make Harbaugh "extremely strong" offer
Jan 23rd 2024
137
to me that’s a no brainer outside of UM his entire coaching career…
Jan 23rd 2024
139
That’s a good point and you are right
Jan 23rd 2024
140
that was always coming sooner or later
Jan 23rd 2024
141
Raiders to hire former Chargers GM Tom Telesco
Jan 23rd 2024
145
IMO, this is not a good hire
Jan 24th 2024
152
      lol figured you would chime in on this
Jan 25th 2024
153
Mike McDaniel was on his URL shit...
Jan 24th 2024
146
On top of being awful, I cant imagine that dynamic worked
Jan 24th 2024
147
Hard Knocks: In season...
Jan 24th 2024
151
Harbaugh to Chargers is official
Jan 24th 2024
148
gonna be a battle of wills
Jan 24th 2024
149
      Some things never change
Jan 25th 2024
154
Schefty saying there will be a deal soon for Fangs to be Philly DC...
Jan 24th 2024
150
brilliant bit of babyfacing themselves
Jan 25th 2024
157
LMAO!!! You see it, fam!
Jan 25th 2024
160
The fangio disciple want cutting it
Jan 27th 2024
196
Panthers hiring Bucs OC, Dave Canales as HC...
Jan 25th 2024
155
lol. That's all I say about that one.
Jan 25th 2024
156
I'm not saying coaches are out here turning down jobs...
Jan 25th 2024
159
They can have Bowles too.
Jan 25th 2024
158
😭😭😭
Jan 25th 2024
161
Apparently Bucs get 2 3rd rd compensatory picks from canales hiring:
Jan 25th 2024
165
      nevermind, looks like it only applied if he'd been w/ bucs for 2 years
Jan 25th 2024
166
too many of the former players are Black
Jan 25th 2024
162
who?
Jan 25th 2024
163
Carson, CA stand up
Jan 25th 2024
164
Raheem Morris to ATL
Jan 25th 2024
167
Yo, Raheem!!! (c)Tupac in Juice…man, I’m happy for Ra….dope
Jan 25th 2024
168
Bill must be asking for the world
Jan 25th 2024
170
unlike politics nobody wants to build around a 70y/o and can you imagine...
Jan 25th 2024
172
Aint no way ATL was hiring the man who came back from 28-3
Jan 25th 2024
174
Happy to see Raheem get another chance @ HC.
Jan 25th 2024
173
I don't understand this one
Jan 25th 2024
176
      Why? I think it makes more sense than some of the others
Jan 26th 2024
177
      It makes a lot of sense provided they find a decent qb
Jan 26th 2024
193
           Hiring LSU OC would be a good start:
Jan 26th 2024
194
Seahawks and Commanders still on the clock, where do they go?
Jan 25th 2024
169
I could see Vrabel in Washington.
Jan 25th 2024
171
They say Washington is zeroed in on Lions OC Ben Johnson
Jan 25th 2024
175
      that appears to be the case
Jan 26th 2024
178
      So, Bienemy will be Johnson's OC? They should at least...
Jan 26th 2024
179
           Good question, he should be the HC but that won't happen
Jan 26th 2024
180
           they want to keep him...but just as a coordinator?
Jan 26th 2024
181
           I just watched 17 games of Bienemy…he blows
Jan 26th 2024
182
                why would any fired HC's staff stay?
Jan 26th 2024
184
                First I’d heard Bienemy may stay was OKS
Jan 26th 2024
190
                RE: I just watched 17 games of Bienemy…he blows
Jan 26th 2024
186
                ehh, Sam Howell was serving up fun balls
Jan 26th 2024
188
                Incorrect
Jan 28th 2024
201
           this confirms you didn’t watch the Manders this year
Jan 26th 2024
183
                Fair enough…I only watched what they showed of them on Redzone…
Jan 26th 2024
185
                He was supposed to average 30ppg with Sam Howell?
Jan 26th 2024
187
                     Then run the ball…call more bootlegs…leverage the tight end more
Jan 26th 2024
191
                     What NFL team are you OC for?
Jan 26th 2024
192
                          Youre ill informed . Just KIM
Jan 27th 2024
197
                               okayplayer. n/m
Jan 27th 2024
198
                     how about 20?
Jan 26th 2024
195
Eagles hiring Kellen Moore as OC
Jan 28th 2024
199
I still don't understand why he keeps getting jobs lol
Jan 28th 2024
200
You know why
Jan 28th 2024
202
You know why! (c)Above the Law
Jan 28th 2024
203
i wonder why(te), as well.
Jan 30th 2024
205
not mad at this. I wanted EB (since I knew he'd be gone)
Feb 07th 2024
299
Steelers hiring Arthur Smith as new OC…that is…something
Jan 30th 2024
204
of all the niggas in the world
Jan 30th 2024
213
I'm cautiously optimistic....
Jan 30th 2024
214
breh, I was like “this old nigga” then saw he was 41.
Jan 30th 2024
216
he rode for Ridder tho. he wasnt stuck with him.
Jan 30th 2024
225
I like Tomlin but he is lost lately on Offensive Coordinators
Jan 30th 2024
219
      People think I turned in Tomlin out of the blue
Jan 30th 2024
223
           Im flabbergasted. Lol. Dude ruined Atlanta.
Jan 30th 2024
227
                I think the "hot young OC" is over hyped lol...
Jan 31st 2024
229
Ben Johnson staying put in Detroit.
Jan 30th 2024
206
*Stephen Ross as Waddle as a Penguin dance*
Jan 30th 2024
207
great for Detroit, personally risky
Jan 30th 2024
208
was about to say he might get Leftwich'd, but....naw, lol
Jan 30th 2024
211
exactly what I was thinking lol
Jan 30th 2024
212
seems like he doesn’t want a HC gig
Jan 30th 2024
215
well thats a bit of good news
Jan 30th 2024
209
booooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
Jan 30th 2024
210
Looked like we were getting the band back together...
Jan 30th 2024
217
RE: Ben Johnson staying put in Detroit.
Jan 30th 2024
218
More reports are saying it's due to salary demands
Jan 30th 2024
220
      i think thats tied to his job satisfaction
Jan 30th 2024
221
           Yep...either get the Monty Williams bag (relatively speaking)...
Jan 30th 2024
222
                i hate that monty is your example lol
Jan 30th 2024
224
                     LOL! Me too! I love Monty from his OKC days.
Jan 30th 2024
226
Hearing and seeing Dan Quinn to Washington is gaining steam....
Jan 31st 2024
228
Hawks hiring Ravens DC, Mike Macdonald
Jan 31st 2024
230
if it wasn't Ben Johnson or Slowik, he was next on my list. i'm happy.
Jan 31st 2024
231
      Part of the Conner Stallions coaching tree
Jan 31st 2024
232
           LOL
Jan 31st 2024
233
           You just made me turn my camera off in a work meeting
Feb 01st 2024
240
Dan Quinn officially HC of the Washington Commanders
Feb 01st 2024
234
He must be the worst interviewer in the world or his college crimes
Feb 01st 2024
235
Can Jerry get Bill to come in as DC? LOL. Fuck.
Feb 01st 2024
236
Y'all want Bieniemy too be that dude so bad
Feb 01st 2024
237
      what do you mean "that dude"?
Feb 01st 2024
238
      Right every other OC under Reid and McVay has gotten a HC shot
Feb 01st 2024
239
      he was on a staff where the HC got fired
Feb 01st 2024
241
      RE: what do you mean "that dude"?
Feb 01st 2024
243
           so are you saying racism doesn't exist in the NFL? okayplayer. n/m
Feb 01st 2024
244
                Of course I'm not saying that.....
Feb 01st 2024
245
                RE: Of course I'm not saying that.....
Feb 01st 2024
246
                     RE: Of course I'm not saying that.....
Feb 01st 2024
249
                          what point? MacDonald went from intern to HC on less than 10yrs...
Feb 01st 2024
250
                               RE: what point? MacDonald went from intern to HC on less than 10yrs...
Feb 01st 2024
256
                                    RE: what point? MacDonald went from intern to HC on less than 10yrs...
Feb 01st 2024
257
                                         RE: what point? MacDonald went from intern to HC on less than 10yrs...
Feb 01st 2024
258
                                              RE: what point? MacDonald went from intern to HC on less than 10yrs...
Feb 02nd 2024
264
                                                   Why don’t you buy that Bienemy specifically may suck
Feb 03rd 2024
270
                are you *that* dumb that you think thats what he was saying?
Feb 01st 2024
247
                     How dumb are you that you don’t?
Feb 01st 2024
248
                          nobody smart thinks he was saying that
Feb 01st 2024
252
                               You’re always arguing dumb racist points and think you’re smart lol
Feb 01st 2024
253
      yeah folks need to move on and pick a new cause
Feb 01st 2024
242
Cowboys meeting with Ron Rivera...see reply 228...
Feb 01st 2024
251
RE: Cowboys meeting with Ron Rivera...see reply 228...
Feb 01st 2024
254
      That's not changing...McCarthy calls the plays...
Feb 01st 2024
255
Raiders hiring Kliff Kingsbury as OC
Feb 01st 2024
259
Washington targeting Chip Kelly for OC job...so Bienemy out either way
Feb 01st 2024
260
He was part of Rivera’s staff unless they gave him the HC job which…
Feb 01st 2024
261
Patriots hire Alex Van Pelt as OC
Feb 02nd 2024
262
Raiders hire Kliff Kingsbury as OC
Feb 02nd 2024
263
RE: Raiders hire Kliff Kingsbury as OC
Feb 02nd 2024
265
I'm not even a Kingsbury fan and I feel like this is exaggerated...
Feb 02nd 2024
266
      Falling up like Lane
Feb 03rd 2024
269
           His last name has kept him relevant
Feb 03rd 2024
271
this fell through :(
Feb 03rd 2024
267
Damn, he McDaniels’d y’all
Feb 03rd 2024
272
      yupp
Feb 03rd 2024
273
never trust a man who spells Cliff with a K
Feb 03rd 2024
268
Reports: KK now lead candidate for Washington OC job
Feb 04th 2024
274
Raiders now set to hire Bears’ OC Luke Getsy….
Feb 04th 2024
275
      he was Davante's WR coach in green bay
Feb 04th 2024
276
      Pierce fucked up this hire badly
Feb 04th 2024
277
           Bringing in Marv raised a red flag for me
Feb 05th 2024
279
           weren't they buddies at Arizona State under Herm?
Feb 05th 2024
282
           wonder if he even has the power to hire an OC on his own right now.
Feb 05th 2024
280
           if you can't hire your own assistants, you shouldn't take the HC job
Feb 05th 2024
281
                Leftwich guide on how to fuck up a job offer
Feb 05th 2024
283
                     yeah that'd make sense if it wasn't Luke Getsy
Feb 05th 2024
285
                          You do know there's a chance that Fields is what he is
Feb 05th 2024
286
                          oh don't get me wrong
Feb 05th 2024
287
                          Bow you are talking about who was hired
Feb 05th 2024
289
           Raiders fumbled the OC hire and the GM hire
Feb 05th 2024
284
           you guys aren't helping with my cope
Feb 05th 2024
288
As expected, Quinn takes Joe Whitt Jr. with him to be his DC
Feb 04th 2024
278
Am I bugging for being upset at the headline that Beinemy was fired?
Feb 05th 2024
290
this is the last thing I’ll say about Bienemy
Feb 05th 2024
291
Players on a bad team disliked their coach?
Feb 05th 2024
293
You’ve made your mind up. All good with you.
Feb 06th 2024
294
      I haven't because I don't think we have enough information...
Feb 06th 2024
295
           Nevermind
Feb 06th 2024
296
Did Howell play enough last year to regress this year?
Feb 06th 2024
297
yeah. Bienemy is over it's time to move on
Feb 05th 2024
292
apparently he went back to the Chiefs during the AFCCG
Feb 07th 2024
298
      maybe that’s why they made the announcement?
Feb 07th 2024
300
Cowboys hiring Mike Zimmer as DC
Feb 08th 2024
301
Not so fast, my friend (c)...
Feb 12th 2024
306
crazy,some guys at a local bar here broke Grubb as Seahawks OC...
Feb 10th 2024
302
apparently the deal was in place for a while
Feb 11th 2024
305

ThaTruth
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1. "I feel like Magic will push for the #1 to get Caleb Williams…"
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>Reports: Commanders, who secured the #2 pick in the 24 draft
>are expected to part ways with Ron Rivera.

USC guy from DC it’s just too perfect

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2. "Arthur Smith out "
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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3. "he was useless"
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too mediocre to outright tank or give you the edge in winnable games

two more wins would have given him the division, and he had these Ls:

L vs. Washington, 24-16
L at Tennessee, 28-23
L at Arizona, 25-23
L vs. Tampa Bay, 29-25
L AT CAROLINA, 9-7

fighting chance to make the playoffs and they were outscored 85-34 in the last two weeks

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4. "He refused to use his best playmakers on offense"
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It was like he was asking to be fired.

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5. "What else is open or expected to be open?"
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we already know the Chargers and Panthers have to find a coach, will Antonio Pierce get the job in Vegas? You have to think Mark Davis wouldn’t make the mistake of replacing another successful interim coach.

Is Belichick done in New England? Will he be allowed to step down or will he be fired?

Did Matt Eberfus do enough to keep his job in Chicago?

Is Ron Rivera finally done in Washington?

Do the Giants give Brian Daboll another chance?

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6. "Riverboat Ron gone"
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8. "Good riddance "
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7. "Rivera gone....Panthers fire GM, Scott Fitterer"
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9. "They brought in Bob Myers to tell them what everyone already knows?"
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..That their best option moving forward is already in the bldg?

lol.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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10. "wonder where Eric Beinemy ends up now"
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do they keep him or is he gone too?

I’ll take him in Pittsburgh please.. lol.

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25. "Most likely gone. "
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I don't see him being retained unless they hire a defensive minded head coach.

He's several years from his "hot" period as a head coaching candidate, and he didn't exactly wow anyone with his play calling here in DC, and ruffled the players a bit.

I think he gets a job, but not a HC one. Probably will be a token Rooney rule interview once he gets let go.
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28. "RE: Most likely gone. "
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>I don't see him being retained unless they hire a defensive
>minded head coach.
>
>He's several years from his "hot" period as a head coaching
>candidate, and he didn't exactly wow anyone with his play
>calling here in DC, and ruffled the players a bit.

Looking at KC since he left they probably needed some ruffling lol

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29. "‘Manders players hated him "
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Even the most professional types on this team groveled about him. And he’s like 4-to-1 pass to run. I think Bienemy sorta sucks tbh.

  

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30. "Is he supposed to come in buddy buddy with guys on a losing team?"
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11. "Vrabel fired"
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12. "New England?"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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13. "damn it seems like people were saying he was one of the best coaches..."
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in the league a couple of years ago

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14. "Wow I’m surprised we did it but the game is the game. "
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Got a new GM last year he wants to turn the page and move on from Vrabel and Tannehill.
Henry is also leaving too.

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15. "Ridiculous. "
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Dude is a hell of a coach. These types of moves never make sense. May have been mutual but you'd gotta think Vrabel would have taken a chance to reload.

  

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18. "Not really. "
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Vrabel is a great coach but he isn’t the right coach for us at this point in time and it’s best for both sides to move on

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19. "We'll see in a year or two....."
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I think this is a huge mistake. When you have a guy bring that kind of culture in the building you give him a chance to retool that. He's shown what he can do with the right talent in place.

There's franchises like the Steelers who stay the course when they know they've got a great coach.....and the build around them to support that. Then there's cheap teams like the Bengals and Chargers who won't fire a coach because they're cheap but even those teams luck up and get talent every so often. The morale is you need talent AND a competent coach. Vrabel is more than a competent coach.

  

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20. "Has Vrabel made an AFC championship? "
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I mean, they had one year as the #1 seed and when they traded AJ Brown it was weird.

They haven’t recovered from that trade.

I think with the Rookie QB looking legit they will try to get an offense minded coach.

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21. "Yeah man we almost made the SB"
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Up like 2 or 3 scores on KC before we tricked it off. That was the year we had ballers at every skill position on offense

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23. "okay, then yeah.. I can see why a fan would be upset"
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that was in 2020 too

guess they shipping everybody out from that old crew.

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16. "Wow"
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17. "Next coach of THE Ohio State University, (wishful thinking)"
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>.


he will probably find another NFL job, and quickly

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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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22. "Just heard Vrabel was in Krafts suite during the TN bye"
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if true.. wtf.

I know he was being honored at halftime but still, a head coach watching a game with anither teams owner?

TN prolly wrote his obit during the game.

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24. "They interviewed a Panther rep when they fired the GM"
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and you could hear someone playing ping pong in the background.

People chimed in mad af. How the fuck they playing ping pong? Hell nah, Rewind that back! Who plays ping pong after a season like that?”

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26. "RE: They interviewed a Panther rep when they fired the GM"
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>and you could hear someone playing ping pong in the
>background.
>
>People chimed in mad af. How the fuck they playing ping pong?
>Hell nah, Rewind that back! Who plays ping pong after a season
>like that?”

You know they were playing ping pong BEFORE AND DURING a season like that too! Hehe.

I'm more tight about this than Crab Legs and them giving Jamaal Williams a TD. Maybe I'm a jerk tho cuz fuck Arthur Smith even though doing it out of a victory formation wasn't real Compton city gs material at all.

  

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31. "yep, but doing it after the season is hilarious"
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last thing anyone should be doing is playing ping pong in that locker room. Pack up and GTFO.

A former player was like "man, if the X Box is plugged in and someone challenges you, you gotta pick up them sticks.. we are competitors"

I get it's a gig and all but man... no one should be trying to have fun right now.

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27. "all i know is i don't want to lose AP"
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the locker room loves him, the fans love him to the point that i don't think i've ever seen fans chanting a coach's name, until this week.

the raiders and harbaugh have been flirting with each other since Al Davis, and i get the appeal of snatching him up if he's available, but going for these home run hires havn't worked out for the Raiders, and my own personal reason i'd want Harbaugh is i don't want the Chargers to get him lol.

  

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32. "Damn... this is something I didn't think about"
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Harbaugh is the one name that would make the Raiders fuck this up with AP

and I could see him coming in and having success...

but I could also see him wearing out his welcome or the players revolting and once again seeing the team in purgatory.

It's a shame how interim HC's who are Black never get the crown regardless of team success or team chemistry.

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33. "I never put anything past these owners..."
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(not saying you do) They just can't help themselves. Even though they KNOW they got a guy in-house who the players love, who the team showed improvement under and has the capacity to get better as a coach...they cannot resist the sweet elixir of hiring the big, splashy name and looking like a genius. EVEN after fucking up (and admitting as much) last time.

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34. "I feel like the Chargers are a no brainer choice for Harbaugh..."
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he likes California, they have a young QB under contract

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35. "you gotta try for Harbs if you the Raiders"
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if he dont bite, AP is always there. but Harbs pedigree is too strong to stick w/ the interim guy w/o kicking the tires

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39. "RE: you gotta try for Harbs if you the Raiders"
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Wonder if he'd like to avoid being in same conference as his brother tho. Having to possibly go against each other every playoffs trying to knock each other out may be something he wants to avoid.

  

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41. "they already went head up in a super bowl"
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I'd assume Jim would want revenge

  

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36. "PETE CARROLL GONE AS HC"
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1745162176476721436

  

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37. "upgrade to Dan Quinn"
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Thatll do it

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40. "This is what you wanted right? "
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1 playoff win the last 7 years I believe. Yet fans of other teams will tell you that you are ungrateful for wanting change.

If we win a playoff game it will be the first time in 7 years as well.

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42. "absolutely. while i haven't taken a poll..."
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it FEELS like this is what a majority of the fanbase wanted as well.

it was time. it's been time for a few seasons tbh.

i get it - we might take a nose dive. i don't think that will happen cuz we have some good pieces but anything is possible.

but, sometimes change is needed even at the risk of taking a dip in performance.

i expect the leading candidates to be Jim Harbaugh, Dan Quinn, Mike Vrabel and maybe Bienemy if the Commanders aren't giving him the job (not in that order just throwing out names).

  

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43. "he should have been banned for life for his call in Super Bowl 49"
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46. "LOL"
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i never hated that call, just the outcome.

i don't think it was a BAD call. teams run shit like that all the time at the goal line cuz all you gotta do is get the nose of the ball across the plane.

that said, it was the WRONG call. the ball should have went to Lynch.

  

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47. "good call, bad throw. down and away is TD or inc"
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with another snap

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38. "Pete Carroll out too…"
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https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10104464-pete-carroll-wont-return-as-seahawks-hc-in-2024-will-continue-to-work-with-team.amp.html

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44. "Patriots and Belichick Part Ways"
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39285303/bill-belichick-leaving-patriots-24-seasons-sources-say

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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

  

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45. "nothing last forever… "
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no Brady exposed Bill badly.

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48. "We couldn't draft a new young QB with Bill there"
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Couldn't see it working. He had the perfect storm with Brady. But this wouldn't have been good for Drake Maye IMO.

  

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49. "Can you with Vrabel? "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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61. "I think so. He has the personality to make it work"
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62. "Seemed like he was Tannehill or die"
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But maybe I was misreading that situation.

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50. "keep hearing Bill can go somewhere else and immediately have success"
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if he has a bunch of talent on the roster.

damn near every coach who has left NE has looked like a fucking fraud without Brady.

Bill looks fucking lost without Brady and that roster he built is absolute trash.

I think he is done. He had the perfect QB, cheating and some of the most fucking favorable officiating I have ever seen during that run.

but the last SB he lost, he benched their best CB for some reason and watched his replacement get torched.


I think anyone who gets Bill is getting a Frank Reich type outcome. This is a guy who cant connect with the younger rosters and wanted to bring back Patricia after last years fiasco.

Good luck to whoever hires him.

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51. "Sean Payton jut turned 60 & he's probably the oldest HC we'll see hired...."
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and the jury is still out on him

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53. "while age is part of it, its more than that"
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did you see the way Zapp Bailey congratulated Bill after hugging his OC after the Steeler game. Shit was comical. These young players scared of that old dude.

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52. "I think Bill has proven he can still coach a top 10 defense "
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The Patriots were bad this season but it wasn’t because defense.

You give Bill a team with a good QB and he hires a decent OC, Bill and that team will be fine.

To me, Bill to the Chargers makes the most sense. The Chargers have good defensive talent and they have Herbert.

To me, the Falcons don’t make any sense because they don’t have a QB.

  

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54. "can he hire a good OC? "
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does he have the patience to work with these young dudes at this age?

I din’t think he does.

I think Brady ran that offense and everyone else was along for the ride.

and people talk like if he had a good QB like Brady wasn’t the best to ever do it. The man went to Tampa and won a SB. In Tampa.

A good QB aint enough for Bill to get over the hump. He needs a clutch QB who is a fucking beast and rally the troops to run through a brick wall for him.

and Herbert is not a Brady. Dude is not clutch.

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56. "The closest to Brady playing right today is Mahomes"
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No one, other than Mahomes is close to Brady, so that isn’t a fair comparison to anyone playing right today.

Let’s not forget, early Patriot Super Bowl wins were low scoring games that the Pats won with defense, a running game, special teams and Brady largely being a game manager and not turning the ball over.

McDaniels has proven twice now that he isn’t a good HC but I think McDaniels is a good OC, he is a modern version of Norv Turner.

I think Belichick with McDaniels and a young QB with talent would do just fine.

  

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57. "RE: The closest to Brady playing right today is Mahomes"
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>No one, other than Mahomes is close to Brady, so that isn’t
>a fair comparison to anyone playing right today.
>
>Let’s not forget, early Patriot Super Bowl wins were low
>scoring games that the Pats won with defense, a running game,
>special teams and Brady largely being a game manager and not
>turning the ball over.
>
>McDaniels has proven twice now that he isn’t a good HC but I
>think McDaniels is a good OC, he is a modern version of Norv
>Turner.
>
>I think Belichick with McDaniels and a young QB with talent
>would do just fine.

most of these current owners like young dudes nobody is trying to turn their franchise over to a 70y/o dude trying to reclaim his glory

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58. "Bill isn’t some random retread 70 year old coach"
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He has 6 SB rings with the Pats and 2 with the Giants. If Bill still wants to coach, someone will hire him.

  

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59. "RE: Bill isn’t some random retread 70 year old coach"
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>He has 6 SB rings with the Pats and 2 with the Giants. If
>Bill still wants to coach, someone will hire him.

you talking about shit that happened 20 years ago lol, he won 4 games last year, 2 years ago ago he tried to make a career defensive coach his offensive coordinator, there are reasons the Krafts showed him the door, to act like its all going to magically come together somewhere else where Tom Brady is not his QB is kind of far-fetched IMO

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60. "Bill can still coach defense"
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As bad as that offense was and as often as the Patriots defense was on the field this season they still ranked:

11th in passing defense
4th in rushing defense
7th in total defense

If I’m a team with an established QB, I would hire Bill the HC but not Bill the GM.

  

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64. "man, that was 20 years ago"
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and they needed to cheat for those first few SB’s.



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66. "yeah I wasn't even going to bring that up I've made too many posts..."
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over the years its like that's all forgotten lol

>and they needed to cheat for those first few SB’s.

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108. "Brady threw for 350+ with 3 TDs in his 2nd SB nm"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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55. "RE: I think Bill has proven he can still coach a top 10 defense "
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>The Patriots were bad this season but it wasn’t because
>defense.
>
>You give Bill a team with a good QB and he hires a decent OC,
>Bill and that team will be fine.
>
>To me, Bill to the Chargers makes the most sense. The Chargers
>have good defensive talent and they have Herbert.
>
>To me, the Falcons don’t make any sense because they don’t
>have a QB.

I think the Chargers go all in on Harbaugh I can't see them bringing in another defensive coach

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63. "The end of an era."
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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76. "Astute analysis, as always."
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___________________

Mar-A-Lago delenda est

  

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65. "Patriots had somebody on the way over…"
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while Bill was loading up his car. Jerod Mayo, new Pats HC.

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67. "He was already in the house he just changed bedrooms lol"
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68. "im curious about this loophole"
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ESPN is saying the Pats can skip the league processes on coaching hiring because it was written into Mayo contract that he'd be the next head coach. I wonder what vetting goes into that because to me that's just going to be an easy way to avoid interviewing minority candidates if it's really that cut/dry

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69. "Graziano said it’s BEEN filed with the league office…"
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and that it doesn’t mean they actually have to go through with it and hire him…but wouldn’t that also mean (and here’s where I could be misunderstanding) that if they were like, naw he turned out to be some shit, we just haven’t fired him yet…they would then have to do a regular hiring search and by extension, interview minority candidates?

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70. "but Mayo is Black.. so why would a team have to interview Black candidat..."
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if they hire a Black coach internally?

I see no problem with this hire in regards to the Rooney Rule

Now if he was white then yeah, that would feel like a way to skirt the rule.

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71. "it should be obvious I am speaking in general not about Mayo."
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72. "lmao."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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75. "bruh.. you think owners minds are blown at this loophole"
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that could be used to avoid the rooney rule and hire white coaches internally!!!

Pretty sure every loophole l, trap door, and back door tactic has been used and abused to get white dudes hired without having to use the rooney rule.

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73. "I think this is what the potential issue is "
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>Now if he was white then yeah, that would feel like a way to
>skirt the rule.

  

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74. "just reads funny"
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because there is no loophole if you hire a Black coach internally.

The Rooney Rule wants more Black head coaches.

and owners have tried every trick in the book to get white dudes hired since the RR was introduced.

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78. "I'm now praying we get Williams or Maye in the draft"
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I hope the Bears just take Harrison.

  

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77. "Rumors of Tomlin stepping back growing louder"
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if this is it, I expect the team to leave it all on the field for him.

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79. "Thinking about it now I can't really blame him if he did..."
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>if this is it, I expect the team to leave it all on the field
>for him.

the Steelers aren't getting better anytime some, and if they're ever bad enough to get a high draft pick he's gone, apparently his contract being up and all the jobs coming open and ones that may potentially be open it may be as good as time as ever to make a move

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83. "its chicken and egg with Tomlin"
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He’s good enough to take a bad team to 9 wins which doesn’t get high draft picks for a difference maker at QB or a other position.

Tomorrow n wouldn’t get fired if he went 5-12 or 6-11 either. Fans would grumble loudly but Rooney doesn’t give a shit about that.

My issue is at some point Tomlin has to win again in the playoffs. You have to be able to upset someone and not only be able to win playoff games when favored.

our last 3 playoff games were over by halftime and the last 2 at home looked like the GB/Dallas game.

Hoping today is the day he gets back to winning.

Regardless, 17 years is a long time and 6 years is a long time without a playoff win.

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80. "Jerry's gotta go for Harbaugh right?"
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81. "him or Vrabel. i cant see either putting up w/ Jerry though"
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82. "Harbaugh definitely not"
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he already dealt with that in San Francisco and Jerry is 10x worse than the Yorks

he liked Michigan because he had full autonomy and godfather stature when it came to institutional protection

Chargers seem more like a team he could have his way with

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85. "I think Harbaugh is at point where he can demand what he wants..."
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and Jerry is desperate enough that he has to listen

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86. "Life demonstrates old ass men are who they are and they won’t change"
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That goes for Jerry and Jim Harbaugh.

Doesn’t mean that Jerry won’t talk a big game about being willing to cede some control. But him winning the way he wants to win and holding the reins in the process is going to be paramount to him.

And Harbaugh may say he’s willing to work for an organization like the Cowboys and partner with Jones, but he wants to do things they way he wants and not answer to anyone

Could Dallashire Harbaugh? Sure. But that marriage would as soon as they hit their first bump

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87. "RE: Life demonstrates old ass men are who they are and they won’t chan..."
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>That goes for Jerry and Jim Harbaugh.
>
>Doesn’t mean that Jerry won’t talk a big game about being
>willing to cede some control. But him winning the way he wants
>to win and holding the reins in the process is going to be
>paramount to him.
>
>And Harbaugh may say he’s willing to work for an
>organization like the Cowboys and partner with Jones, but he
>wants to do things they way he wants and not answer to anyone
>
>
>Could Dallashire Harbaugh? Sure. But that marriage would as
>soon as they hit their first bump

Who knows you may be right but I think Jerry is desperate and willing to try anything at this point and as far as Harbaugh we know all these coaches have huge egos and after what he accomplished at Michigan if he could bring the Cowboys back to the SB?

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88. "RE: Life demonstrates old ass men are who they are and they won’t chan..."
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>>That goes for Jerry and Jim Harbaugh.
>>
>>Doesn’t mean that Jerry won’t talk a big game about
>being
>>willing to cede some control. But him winning the way he
>wants
>>to win and holding the reins in the process is going to be
>>paramount to him.
>>
>>And Harbaugh may say he’s willing to work for an
>>organization like the Cowboys and partner with Jones, but he
>>wants to do things they way he wants and not answer to
>anyone
>>
>>
>>Could Dallashire Harbaugh? Sure. But that marriage would as
>>soon as they hit their first bump
>
>Who knows you may be right but I think Jerry is desperate and
>willing to try anything at this point and as far as Harbaugh
>we know all these coaches have huge egos and after what he
>accomplished at Michigan if he could bring the Cowboys back to
>the SB?

That’s the thing though: right now that gap between where Harbaugh and Jones are at is too big for it to work. Jerry’s at a complete disadvantage and would have to come at Harbaugh on some serious hat in hand shit. I think it’s more likely that he pursues Bellichick, who now has to prove he can win without Brady.

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90. "RE: Life demonstrates old ass men are who they are and they won’t chan..."
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>>>That goes for Jerry and Jim Harbaugh.
>>>
>>>Doesn’t mean that Jerry won’t talk a big game about
>>being
>>>willing to cede some control. But him winning the way he
>>wants
>>>to win and holding the reins in the process is going to be
>>>paramount to him.
>>>
>>>And Harbaugh may say he’s willing to work for an
>>>organization like the Cowboys and partner with Jones, but
>he
>>>wants to do things they way he wants and not answer to
>>anyone
>>>
>>>
>>>Could Dallashire Harbaugh? Sure. But that marriage would as
>>>soon as they hit their first bump
>>
>>Who knows you may be right but I think Jerry is desperate
>and
>>willing to try anything at this point and as far as Harbaugh
>>we know all these coaches have huge egos and after what he
>>accomplished at Michigan if he could bring the Cowboys back
>to
>>the SB?
>
>That’s the thing though: right now that gap between where
>Harbaugh and Jones are at is too big for it to work. Jerry’s
>at a complete disadvantage and would have to come at Harbaugh
>on some serious hat in hand shit. I think it’s more likely
>that he pursues Bellichick, who now has to prove he can win
>without Brady.

You think Bill is not going to push for some level of control?

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94. "RE: Life demonstrates old ass men are who they are and they won’t chan..."
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>You think Bill is not going to push for some level of
>control?

Not nearly as much as Harbaugh.

Harbaugh has all the leverage right now. He's coming off winning a chip (allbeit in college) doing shit his way. He's already got multiple organizations salivating over him. His stock is at the highest it's ever been and he can afford to dictate whatever terms he wants.

Bellichick is coming off of multiple subpar seasons. He's month away from turning 72. He's not nearly as in demand. He can't afford to ask for as much as Harbaugh is likely to ask for (both money and control) and expect to be taken seriously.

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95. ""old ass men are who they are""
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>
>>You think Bill is not going to push for some level of
>>control?
>
>Not nearly as much as Harbaugh.
>
>Harbaugh has all the leverage right now. He's coming off
>winning a chip (allbeit in college) doing shit his way. He's
>already got multiple organizations salivating over him. His
>stock is at the highest it's ever been and he can afford to
>dictate whatever terms he wants.
>
>Bellichick is coming off of multiple subpar seasons. He's
>month away from turning 72. He's not nearly as in demand. He
>can't afford to ask for as much as Harbaugh is likely to ask
>for (both money and control) and expect to be taken
>seriously.

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84. "RE: him or Vrabel. i cant see either putting up w/ Jerry though"
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I think this right here. I think Jim is going to SD. Vrabel would be a good fit in WAshington.


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89. "Belichick interviewed falcons?"
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Hope he doesn’t find a qb

  

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91. "That's a really bad fit"
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92. "he left without an offer "
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and they had already fulfilled the Rooney Rule according to sources on radio this morning.

If he took that gig clearly he is just looking for W’s to break the record and then retire.

This could also mean Bill is desperate and maybe the offers aren’t pouring in like expected.

Who knows.. just seems like the worst option out of all the gigs available.

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93. "I think this was an "out of respect" interview, everyone says Bill needs..."
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to go to a team with a QB already in place(what coach doesn't lol) and that's the main thing ATL doesn't have

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98. "Panthers are the worst option availabe"
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Atlanta has a stacked offense and a fairly good defense, in a weak division. They just need a QB

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100. "Any job at this point is bad for him...."
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Bill needs to go sit his ornery on the spectrum ass down somewhere and smell the roses. He had a great run but trying to walk into another building at his age completely set in his ways will only make him look petty as he tries to break this record.

  

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102. "agree completely"
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he's been in a silo so long, he's going to clash with any new organization no matter how deferential he sounds in the interview

can't give him any team with a young quarterback in development because he proved he can't do that; he had Matt Patricia calling plays for his last first round quarterback for fucks sake

he's going to dabble in personnel and activate a fifth tight end for special teams purposes (even though New England's special teams were shit last year)

I think these organizations seeing Belichick as their savior are in for an unhappy surprise

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103. "man can’t survive without those white wr’s and te’s"
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cant relate to these Black WR’s lol

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106. "100%"
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I don't get what people are missing here.....the post Brady Belichick era was pretty telling. He only wanted yes men around and he was about an inflexible as a coach can be.....and it got worse every year. That roster is so imbalanced and essentially the equivalent of a beater car that only he knows how to drive. The sum of the parts are going to look pretty bad for a while.

He's a notoriously subpar personnel decision maker.....he over drafts his "type" of players and his drafts as a whole have been cheeks for YEARS.

Why anyone would hand him the keys at this point is beyond me.

  

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114. "Having 2nd interview with Atlanta "
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119. "never thought it would be ATL"
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but its prolly the easiest path to get that record

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120. "I agree "
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>but its prolly the easiest path to get that record

You are probably right. No one in that division is very good. Carolina will have a new coach, Saints coach isn’t very good, he is average at best. Todd Bowles seems to always be on the hot seat with TB fans.

  

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96. "Tomlin is running it back "
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Legs and all white Steeler fans are MAD.

  

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97. "lol..."
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>Legs and all white Steeler fans are MAD.

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99. "Mad-Makin' Mike! LMAO..."
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..collectin' checks and white tears @ the same-damn-time.




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101. " expected him to finish his contract.. "
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if he gets extended...

yeah..

I guess eventually we will finally, maybe, hopefully keep a team under 30 in a playoff game and we possibly could win another playoff game before 2027

I only rant about him on here, I defend him in white spaces

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104. "Lol someone wants to interview Carolina's D coordinator"
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anyone from Carolina getting a job after last year would be atrocious.

  

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105. "I bet every answer he gives D, they do the opposite.. lol"
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someone made a good point about the Pats not going outside for any interviews.

Said they missed a chance to get intel for free on how to make their team better.

You basically ask coaches what they would do to make your franchise win… and you don’t even have to pay them.

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107. "Cowboys keeping McCarthy....."
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I actually think this is the right move......now is Dan Quinn staying too?

  

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109. "Not surprised at all…"
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this is the guy who kept Jason Garrett for 9 seasons. Quinn will have had 5 interviews by the end of the week. He’s probably gone. I’ve said it several times, this season, but Jerry ain’t trying to win a SB, for real. As long as the cowboys are financially successful and he’s good ole popular Jerry…he’s good with the illusion of trying. He never even checked on those other coaches, just like he didn’t even look into Derrick Henry at the deadline. We’ll see what they do this offseason. Quinn gone, Pollard gone, Gilmore prolly gone, need linebackers…we’ll see.

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112. "Sorry bro"
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115. "*daps*"
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110. "It'll be the same result next year. "
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Being a Cowboys fan must be absolute torture.

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111. "LMAO!.."
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..Same ol' Jerry.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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113. "So Irsay almost OD’d in December"
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and they had to use that Narco pen to bring him back

Does this tarnish the shield or is that just the players?

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118. "RE: So Irsay almost OD’d in December"
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>and they had to use that Narco pen to bring him back
>
>Does this tarnish the shield or is that just the players?

Just the players. Average bros have been programmed to hate the players not the owners (for the most part). Hell, some of the owners are geniuses who fall back and stay not famous in football circles. You know the ones..the ones who DONT be…awl in the videoooooooos every time their team is on.

  

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116. "AP tearing off that interim tag. Good for him."
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117. "AP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Let's GO

  

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121. "Did Bowles do enough? That defense looked shaky "
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123. "Are you serious?"
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124. "about what, man?"
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125. "about Bowles, TB wasn’t even supposed to be competitive this year"
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128. "my bad, I legit thought he was on the hot seat..."
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in the latter portion of the season....not really because of wins/losses, but some of the ways the team was looking on the field.

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132. "He definitely was on the hot seat. Not anymore after playoff run"
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If they'd lost at Carolina last game of the season he would have been fired. Possibly the GM as well.

Now whether he can improve on this season's performance next year? I doubt it.



  

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133. "Okay, thought I remembered that"
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134. "division winner after the “GOAT” retired on the “hot seat”?"
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only a black coach lol

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143. "lmao.. the Black part is true, but you can win the NFC South at 8-9"
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or 7-10 some years these days.. lol

that division is fucking weird.

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144. "It doesn’t matter he won with qb everyone else gave up on"
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189. "everyone? You mean Cleveland who has 40 different QB’s start"
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the last 10 years and a brief stop in Carolina who is also a mess?

I always said Cleveland fucked up by shitting on the only QB to win a road playoff game in damn near 50 years. Fucking idiots.. lol.

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142. "he was. they were 4-7 at one point"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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122. "Brian Callahan to Tennessee?"
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126. "i dont even know who that is"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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127. "His dad was the Raiders and Nebraska coach "
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136. "I immediately thought they hired his dad when I saw that name"
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For a moment, I thought the Titans pulled the oldest and whitest retread out of retirement.

  

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129. "the only reason I do is because his pops was Dallas OC for a minute"
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130. "Eagles fire former DC, Sean Desai...."
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who was demoted toward the end of the season. Graz saying Ron Rivera is in the running for the DC job there.

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131. "Eagles fire OC, Brian Johnson.....ok, so Nick stays...coordinators go"
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135. "I dunno how he was interviewing for HC jobs last week"
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or maybe I do, maybe just the owners getting the Rooney Rule out of the way

but everyone seemed to know he would be fired at the end of this season with the way the offense tanked

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138. "Leftwich II? "
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137. "Chargers make Harbaugh "extremely strong" offer"
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139. "to me that’s a no brainer outside of UM his entire coaching career…"
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has been in CA

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140. "That’s a good point and you are right"
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>has been in CA

QB coach with Oakland Raiders
HC at USD
HC at Stanford
HC at SF

  

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141. "that was always coming sooner or later"
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but "league sources" havent gotten anything right about Harbaugh in like 10 years, so take alllll of that shit with a grain of salt

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145. "Raiders to hire former Chargers GM Tom Telesco"
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things seemed to be pointing to Champ Kelly getting the job but assume there's a little trepidation on hiring AP *and* a rookie GM.

I don't know alot about Telesco but the Chargers have built up quite a roster. They just shit the bed at head coach, but looks like that's about to change, because really, my ONLY apprehension about hiring AP was that I didn't want the Chargers to get Harbaugh Lol

  

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152. "IMO, this is not a good hire"
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Telesco was fairly good at the following things:

1. Getting his first round pick right
2. Trading away his second round pick and missing with the newly acquired pick.
3. Terrible at drafting in rounds 3-7

  

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153. "lol figured you would chime in on this"
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he's added some good names, (many who thru shit luck seem to be injury prone)
I obv don't have as much intel on him as you, but considering how awful the Raiders drafts have been for the past decade, anything will be an improvement. Aside from Mack, Jacobs and kolton Miller, our first round picks alone have been abysmal. Subsequent rounds not much better. We lucked up getting Crosby in a 4th round pick...it's been mostly pretty bad tho

  

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146. "Mike McDaniel was on his URL shit..."
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I drink real orange juice, get Tang the fuck outta here...our defense was shit, get Fangs the fuck outta here!! *Don Juan DeMarco*

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147. "On top of being awful, I cant imagine that dynamic worked"
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Injuries were also not far to Vic.

http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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151. "Hard Knocks: In season..."
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..Everything you need to know about the demise of their season is available for your viewing pleasure lol.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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148. "Harbaugh to Chargers is official"
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149. "gonna be a battle of wills"
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Will the Chargers go the Harbaugh way, of winning everywhere he goes, or will Harbaugh go the Charger way of looking amazing on paper only to Charger

  

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154. "Some things never change"
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Chargers will still be down 6 in the 4th quarter with 45 seconds on the clock with 90 yards to go.

It's canon.

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150. "Schefty saying there will be a deal soon for Fangs to be Philly DC..."
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the Dolphins worked with him to help him be close to his family in Pennsylvania. Must be nice to be...you know 😐

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157. "brilliant bit of babyfacing themselves"
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its hard to regift a fruit cake and come away looking like the good guys, but they pulled it off

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160. "LMAO!!! You see it, fam!"
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196. "The fangio disciple want cutting it "
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Had to go get the OG

  

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155. "Panthers hiring Bucs OC, Dave Canales as HC..."
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in the words of one, Prodigy from Mobb Deep..."I never seen him in my whole life"

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156. "lol. That's all I say about that one. "
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>in the words of one, Prodigy from Mobb Deep..."I never seen
>him in my whole life"

That and while it's nothing personal, I wish him nothing but the worst.

  

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159. "I'm not saying coaches are out here turning down jobs..."
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but, prolly the type of guy they gotta get until they show that they can be a competent org.

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158. "They can have Bowles too."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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161. "😭😭😭"
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165. "Apparently Bucs get 2 3rd rd compensatory picks from canales hiring:"
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https://www.joebucsfan.com/2024/01/bucs-to-add-two-third-round-draft-picks-for-panthers-hiring-of-dave-canales/



I'm not complaining but uhh... for some reason I doubt he even speaks spanish lol

  

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166. "nevermind, looks like it only applied if he'd been w/ bucs for 2 years"
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162. "too many of the former players are Black"
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so now the NFL has convinced themselves that guys who played small college ball at a mediocre level and joined as analysts at 22 are the move

meanwhile Kyle Shanahan played for Mack Brown, Andy Reid played for Lavell Edwards, Dan Campbell played for RC Slocum and in the NFL, John Harbaugh is a Harbaugh, and Demeco Ryans is the COTY

ive been very critical of Campbell's ability to manage executive decision making, but he has his nerd living in the Xs and Os world on offense while he leads the men, and i cant say ANYTHING bad about his ability to do that.

do the Dolphins players think of Mike McDaniel the same way the previously mentioned guys' players do?

highly doubtful

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163. "who?"
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164. "Carson, CA stand up"
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167. "Raheem Morris to ATL"
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168. "Yo, Raheem!!! (c)Tupac in Juice…man, I’m happy for Ra….dope"
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170. "Bill must be asking for the world"
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172. "unlike politics nobody wants to build around a 70y/o and can you imagine..."
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what he's like in an interview? lol

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174. "Aint no way ATL was hiring the man who came back from 28-3 "
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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173. "Happy to see Raheem get another chance @ HC."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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176. "I don't understand this one"
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177. "Why? I think it makes more sense than some of the others"
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193. "It makes a lot of sense provided they find a decent qb"
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regardless he's deserved another shot at HC for years now (just wish it wasn't a divisional rival)

Have to imagine he brings one of those McKay acolytes from the Rams to be OC

  

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194. "Hiring LSU OC would be a good start:"
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https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1751057189043593588?s=46&t=A9WToJV0wU-lu9vhoGVWEA

  

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169. "Seahawks and Commanders still on the clock, where do they go?"
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171. "I could see Vrabel in Washington."
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175. "They say Washington is zeroed in on Lions OC Ben Johnson"
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178. "that appears to be the case"
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goddamnit

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179. "So, Bienemy will be Johnson's OC? They should at least..."
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be able to score points, lol.

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180. "Good question, he should be the HC but that won't happen"
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181. "they want to keep him...but just as a coordinator?"
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if they do that and hire Ben Johnson as OC, they deserve whatever ditch the operation crashes into

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182. "I just watched 17 games of Bienemy…he blows"
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The Chiefs are Mahomes and Reid. Nagy failed spectacularly elsewhere and Bienemy did too.

Bienemy had complete autonomy over our offense with a rookie quarterback. He never made adjustments and threw 40 times a game. Bienemy is not the wizard everyone wants him to be and by all accounts his players hated him. On the exit interview day a bunch of our players were openly critical of his attitude and approach to playcalling, like on the record. He did a lot of damage in DC and will very likely not have a role here.

  

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184. "why would any fired HC's staff stay?"
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this isnt college where the RB coach might be loved by his kids and their parents, with a track record of studs

gtfoh

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190. "First I’d heard Bienemy may stay was OKS"
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He’s presumed good as gone in DC

  

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186. "RE: I just watched 17 games of Bienemy…he blows"
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>The Chiefs are Mahomes and Reid. Nagy failed spectacularly
>elsewhere and Bienemy did too.
>
>Bienemy had complete autonomy over our offense with a rookie
>quarterback. He never made adjustments and threw 40 times a
>game. Bienemy is not the wizard everyone wants him to be and
>by all accounts his players hated him. On the exit interview
>day a bunch of our players were openly critical of his
>attitude and approach to playcalling, like on the record. He
>did a lot of damage in DC and will very likely not have a role
>here.

the Chiefs had their worst offensive numbers in the Mahomes era

not every coach is "liked" by his players

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188. "ehh, Sam Howell was serving up fun balls"
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and when he was benched Brissett came in and had success in the same offense.

No shade but yall fucking suck and have not had success for a long time. Players complaining about a coach being hard on them is laughable given how bad you guys have been.

but I do agree that great players make coaches look great. Andy Reid is not having a run like this with Alex Smith.

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201. "Incorrect"
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I watched the games too and he schemed guys open all the fuckin' time.

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183. "this confirms you didn’t watch the Manders this year "
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>be able to score points, lol.

And that’s totally fine, I can’t blame you. They were a horrific watch. But Bienemy was hated by his players and was terrible in-game. We averaged 17 points last year and averaged 17 points this year. He was a failure and unpopular with his personnel.

  

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185. "Fair enough…I only watched what they showed of them on Redzone…"
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or if they played the Cowboys. I mostly meant that between Johnson and Bienemy, they should be able to come up with a legit offense.

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187. "He was supposed to average 30ppg with Sam Howell?"
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191. "Then run the ball…call more bootlegs…leverage the tight end more "
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192. "What NFL team are you OC for?"
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197. " Youre ill informed . Just KIM"
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198. "okayplayer. n/m"
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195. "how about 20?"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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199. "Eagles hiring Kellen Moore as OC"
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200. "I still don't understand why he keeps getting jobs lol"
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202. "You know why"
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203. "You know why! (c)Above the Law"
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205. "i wonder why(te), as well."
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299. "not mad at this. I wanted EB (since I knew he'd be gone)"
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but the Eagles offense needs some serious rehab.

A chance to take some playcalling away from Sirianni is key.

New voices are needed around Jalen.

Dak had some great years under Moore. The times that weren't, the Cowboys had some serious injury issues.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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204. "Steelers hiring Arthur Smith as new OC…that is…something "
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213. "of all the niggas in the world"
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Tomlin on his Billichek shit man…

all these young creative offensive dudes and we hire this dude?

Hope it works out but I’m telling yall, Tomlin just doesn’t seem like he is willing to get with the times on offense.

We need better passing concepts, running game is the last thing we need to work on right now.

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214. "I'm cautiously optimistic...."
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IF he can do what he did with the Titans the 2 years he was OC there then I'm all for it but this Falcons stint just left a bad taste. Not every coordinator is meant to be a HC but man it's hard to overlook him mismanaging that talent and not be put off by that. Ridder was awful so that certainly has a lot do do with it but Pickett isn't some specimen either.

The Steelers are also a notoriously power/gap scheme run oriented offense......they did throw in some zone last year but they like power. They want to pull guards and double team gaps and run it into your face. Smith is a wide zone scheme guy so we'll see how that goes.

This is a classic Steelers hire. Not a chance in hell they were going to hand this over to a 30 year old first time coordinator even though they have no business approaching it that way after hiring Matt Canada. That was one of the most embarrassing hires they've ever made.

Smith is also 41 despite the fact that he looks 50.

  

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216. "breh, I was like “this old nigga” then saw he was 41. "
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and I swear if we try that zone shit again only to scrap it halfway thru the season AGAIN.. smh.

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225. "he rode for Ridder tho. he wasnt stuck with him."
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that was his guy

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219. "I like Tomlin but he is lost lately on Offensive Coordinators "
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How could anyone watch the Falcons Offense this year and think this is a good idea?

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223. "People think I turned in Tomlin out of the blue"
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but this is more proof Tomlin is complacent and lacks that hunger for a SB title

of all the offenses in the NFL he picks Atlanta’s offense?

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227. "Im flabbergasted. Lol. Dude ruined Atlanta."
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I thought Tomlin would get a hot young OC. This is just more of the same mediocre old school approach. Just bizarre

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229. "I think the "hot young OC" is over hyped lol..."
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>I thought Tomlin would get a hot young OC. This is just more
>of the same mediocre old school approach. Just bizarre

these dudes don't have any secret plays, everybody knows what everybody is running

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206. "Ben Johnson staying put in Detroit. "
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Just heard on the local sports radio that BJ wants to take another shot at a super bowl with Detroit. Supposedly told the Seahawks and Commanders he's chillin'.

Wonder if the Eminem diss track threat worked????????????
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207. "*Stephen Ross as Waddle as a Penguin dance*"
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208. "great for Detroit, personally risky"
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never know how many shots you will get at being a HC in the NFL, Detroit could have a lot of injuries on offense next season and his star could fade

but would be a heck of a story if he made the Superbowl with them

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211. "was about to say he might get Leftwich'd, but....naw, lol"
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212. "exactly what I was thinking lol"
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215. "seems like he doesn’t want a HC gig"
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everyone isn’t cut out to be a HC and dude might be looking at all the shit his HC puts up with and aint with it.

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209. "well thats a bit of good news"
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210. "booooooooooooooooooooooooooo."
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wanted him in Seattle.

  

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217. "Looked like we were getting the band back together..."
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but, I guess Dan Quinn might have just been put back in play.

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218. "RE: Ben Johnson staying put in Detroit. "
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>Just heard on the local sports radio that BJ wants to take
>another shot at a super bowl with Detroit. Supposedly told the
>Seahawks and Commanders he's chillin'.
>
>Wonder if the Eminem diss track threat worked????????????
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>
>"To Each His Reach"
>
>but.....
>
>Fuck aliens.

If he plaaaaaays his caaaaards riiiiight....everythang's gonna be alriiiiiight!

AKA

He could get something like the Philly job after NEXT season if Siriani doesn't get it tight this upcoming year. IE: maybe BJ would rather roll with 'fixing' Hurts than Geno and whatever Washington is gonna have at QB. And we know how it goes, there's gonna be half a dozen gigs available next year too.

He IS taking a risk but we all know his risk ain't Leftwichian by any stretch. And Detroit's roster is honest. If they throw in the right upgrade anywhere on offense (I'm thinking WR), they could be kicking people square in their asses even moreso next year. We'll see!

  

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220. "More reports are saying it's due to salary demands"
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i.e. nobody's paying dude $15 million out the gate.

Could be a risk. Don't see his salary rising that much unless there is an overall rise in coaching salaries for first timers.
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221. "i think thats tied to his job satisfaction "
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if he doesnt necessarily want out, making a demand like that makes it win-win

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222. "Yep...either get the Monty Williams bag (relatively speaking)..."
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or stay put in a good job.

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224. "i hate that monty is your example lol"
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226. "LOL! Me too! I love Monty from his OKC days."
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228. "Hearing and seeing Dan Quinn to Washington is gaining steam...."
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had a "very good 2nd interview". Literally could see Jerry bringing Rivera in on some 'wife swap" shit.

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230. "Hawks hiring Ravens DC, Mike Macdonald"
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231. "if it wasn't Ben Johnson or Slowik, he was next on my list. i'm happy."
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defense was way worse on the field than it was on paper so i'm looking for marked improvement there.

very curious though who will run the offense because we have offensive talent (not that we were that bad offensively last year - defense was ASS JUICE).

  

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232. "Part of the Conner Stallions coaching tree"
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youre in good hands

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233. "LOL"
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240. "You just made me turn my camera off in a work meeting"
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I'm DYING laughing over here.

  

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234. "Dan Quinn officially HC of the Washington Commanders"
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someone please tell me what the NFL has on Bienemy or what's dude's problem?

  

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235. "He must be the worst interviewer in the world or his college crimes"
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must have been much worse than we know about.

I see no other reason besides the obvious but other coaches are getting gigs.

He must not have kissed the ring (whatever ring that is)

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236. "Can Jerry get Bill to come in as DC? LOL. Fuck."
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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237. "Y'all want Bieniemy too be that dude so bad"
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He's just not it. I know dudes need him to be for the agenda bullshit to work but as with every one of these agenda scenarios I will say the same thing......PICK A GUY THAT ACTUALLY SERVES THE AGENDA.

He's not Sherman Lewis. That dude got fucked over.

  

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238. "what do you mean "that dude"?"
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i have no Bienemy agenda.

he was a very successful coordinator who is relatively young-ish as far as coaching goes (which matters as the NFL trends younger in that department) who has consistently been passed over again and again - this time by the team he's already at.

that just doesn't really happen these days. almost every guy who has been in his position, with the resume he has, has gotten a shot to run a team.

whether you think he's "that dude" or not, SOMETHING is funky there.

  

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239. "Right every other OC under Reid and McVay has gotten a HC shot"
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241. "he was on a staff where the HC got fired"
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hard to go from coordinator to head guy in that scenario because if the offense had been more effective, the HC probably wouldnt he getting fired

i think he did an okay job with howell this year but they didnt score any points. it is what it is.

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243. "RE: what do you mean &quot;that dude&quot;?"
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But the SOMETHING might not be what you all want it to be. Some team is supposed to name him head coach just because every other Andy Reid OC was?

It may not be hard to figure out that maybe this guy just ain't it when he gets in the room. That literally may be all there is to it. I know some people want it to be deeper than that but in this case it probably isn't.

He got his shot as an OC away from Reid and his offense fell apart and the players didn't fuck with him.

So is the argument that he deserves the chance to be a bad head coaching hire?

  

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244. "so are you saying racism doesn't exist in the NFL? okayplayer. n/m"
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245. "Of course I'm not saying that....."
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But not everything is that. That's the problem with taking that stance with every situation or pointing at a guy like Bieniemy after multiple hiring cycles and a failed OC stint and saying it's still just because people are racist.

Look at this hiring cycle alone....David Canales, Raheem Morris, Antonio Pierce and Jerod Mayo are head coaches.

Raheem Morris should have been a head coach again YEARS ago. He should have gotten the same Falcons job 3 years ago. Multiple people go to bat for that dude. His players love him.

Who is REALLY going to bat for Bieniemy? Head coach is a CEO job. FACE OF THE FRANCHISE. Bieniemy has always been a hot head. HE has some skeletons.

I think it's disgusting that Byron Leftwich can't even get a sniff for an OC job but fucking Josh McDaniels who we all knew was going to fail got a head coaching job. Both coached Tom Brady.

So yes there is OBVIOUSLY racism and bias but in every case that may not be all there is to it.

  

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246. "RE: Of course I'm not saying that....."
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>But not everything is that. That's the problem with taking
>that stance with every situation or pointing at a guy like
>Bieniemy after multiple hiring cycles and a failed OC stint
>and saying it's still just because people are racist.
>
>Look at this hiring cycle alone....David Canales, Raheem
>Morris, Antonio Pierce and Jerod Mayo are head coaches.
>
>Raheem Morris should have been a head coach again YEARS ago.
>He should have gotten the same Falcons job 3 years ago.
>Multiple people go to bat for that dude. His players love
>him.

Exactly and reason he had to wait is due to RACISM.

>Who is REALLY going to bat for Bieniemy? Head coach is a CEO
>job. FACE OF THE FRANCHISE. Bieniemy has always been a hot
>head. HE has some skeletons.

Do you ever wonder why there are way black coaches on the defensive side of the ball? RACISM

>I think it's disgusting that Byron Leftwich can't even get a
>sniff for an OC job but fucking Josh McDaniels who we all knew
>was going to fail got a head coaching job. Both coached Tom
>Brady.

Right. RACISM

>So yes there is OBVIOUSLY racism and bias but in every case
>that may not be all there is to it.

So why are you are you talking/typing?

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249. "RE: Of course I'm not saying that....."
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You argue like a MAGA asshole. You now what I'm gonna call it NAGA....Niggas Always Gonna Argue.

I made a point and you didn't even respond to the point.....just the parts you felt you could scream on.

  

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250. "what point? MacDonald went from intern to HC on less than 10yrs..."
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you will NEVER see a black coach that is not not a former player rise that fast. These white coaches are literally groomed for the jobs.

>You argue like a MAGA asshole. You now what I'm gonna call it
>NAGA....Niggas Always Gonna Argue.
>
>I made a point and you didn't even respond to the
>point.....just the parts you felt you could scream on.

You can talk about irrelevant things or you can discuss facts, your choice. I won't entertain you on the former.

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256. "RE: what point? MacDonald went from intern to HC on less than 10yrs..."
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Bruce Arians won a Super Bowl in Pittsburgh and couldn't get a head coaching job until he "retired" ended up in Indy and was interim coach when Chuck Pagano got cancer and Arians won coach of the year. Otherwise he probably NEVER becomes a head coach.

Sometimes it's racial and sometimes you just don't interview well.

You're right that nepotism and bias are a staple of the NFL but they are of business in general.

There aren't many way for a minority to get to run a team without being a former player. That won't change until more minorities are in positions of power to make hires.

It sucks. But like I said you can't blame every situation on this shit. Sometimes it does more harm that good to call racism for every situation no matter what. Democrats are getting stuck in this bullshit. That's why we have Kamala Harris as a VP right now. Or it was Hillary's "turn". Just make the best fucking hire. Give everyone a chance through the door but ultimately hire the best person.

  

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257. "RE: what point? MacDonald went from intern to HC on less than 10yrs..."
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>Bruce Arians won a Super Bowl in Pittsburgh and couldn't get
>a head coaching job until he "retired" ended up in Indy and
>was interim coach when Chuck Pagano got cancer and Arians won
>coach of the year. Otherwise he probably NEVER becomes a head
>coach.
>
>Sometimes it's racial and sometimes you just don't interview
>well.
>
>You're right that nepotism and bias are a staple of the NFL
>but they are of business in general.
>
>There aren't many way for a minority to get to run a team
>without being a former player. That won't change until more
>minorities are in positions of power to make hires.
>
>It sucks. But like I said you can't blame every situation on
>this shit. Sometimes it does more harm that good to call
>racism for every situation no matter what. Democrats are
>getting stuck in this bullshit. That's why we have Kamala
>Harris as a VP right now. Or it was Hillary's "turn". Just
>make the best fucking hire. Give everyone a chance through
>the door but ultimately hire the best person.

The NFL is a racist entity point black period. It’s just recently became semi normal for a black player to play quarterback. Coordinators and coaches are following behind that. You can ignore it or look away but it is what it is. Politics is another thing I discuss my thoughts on that in GD. The NFL coaching situation is not about Bienemy. He’s the latest black coach to get passed over but he’s not the first.

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258. "RE: what point? MacDonald went from intern to HC on less than 10yrs..."
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You're missing the whole point. We BOTH AGREE THAT THERE IS RACISM IN THE NFL.

The only point I'm making here is that is not the end all be all to every scenario or situation that involves a minority coach getting hired for a job.

If your argument is that real fairness is Bieniemy being probably a bad head coaching hire but getting the job anyway because white coaches with the same risk/background got those jobs then fine.

I'm just saying that objectively.....the guy probably isn't the best example of a unfairly passed over black head coaching candidate. He more than likely is terrible in this process too.

  

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264. "RE: what point? MacDonald went from intern to HC on less than 10yrs..."
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>You're missing the whole point. We BOTH AGREE THAT THERE IS
>RACISM IN THE NFL.
>
>The only point I'm making here is that is not the end all be
>all to every scenario or situation that involves a minority
>coach getting hired for a job.
>
>If your argument is that real fairness is Bieniemy being
>probably a bad head coaching hire but getting the job anyway
>because white coaches with the same risk/background got those
>jobs then fine.
>
>I'm just saying that objectively.....the guy probably isn't
>the best example of a unfairly passed over black head coaching
>candidate. He more than likely is terrible in this process
>too.

The bottom line is most final coaching decisions are made by old white men. In any industry where most of the decisions are made by old white men ruling out race as a factor is foolish. Like I said its not about Bienemy. He's not the first black coach to get passed over he's just the latest.

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270. "Why don’t you buy that Bienemy specifically may suck"
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1) Racism has cost people opportunities in the NFL, true

2) Bienemy cost himself most of his opportunities in the NFL, also true

Even before he failed spectacularly in Washington he had a reputation for being a terrible interview (10+ rejections) , riding players too hard, and having never called plays

In Washington the offense did not improve in any category from the year prior. Howell got worse as the year went on. We had two good backs and never ran the ball. And his rep was that he was a dick in meetings - he made guys foam roll on the floor during film sessions so he could go longer and cut into their time for recovery sessions. That’s documented. But I’m sure you knew that already.

  

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247. "are you *that* dumb that you think thats what he was saying?"
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248. "How dumb are you that you don’t?"
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252. "nobody smart thinks he was saying that"
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253. "You’re always arguing dumb racist points and think you’re smart lol"
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242. "yeah folks need to move on and pick a new cause"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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251. "Cowboys meeting with Ron Rivera...see reply 228..."
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that's so Jerry.

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254. "RE: Cowboys meeting with Ron Rivera...see reply 228..."
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>that's so Jerry.

Who would he bring in to run the offense?

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255. "That's not changing...McCarthy calls the plays..."
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and Brian Schottenheimer "helps" him.

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259. "Raiders hiring Kliff Kingsbury as OC"
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I like it

Defense gave up the fewest points in the league once AP took over but the offense continued to be anemic. We haven't had a real OC in years, McDaniels called the plays and Lombardi just carried a clipboard, same situation under the Gruden run. Olsen was OC but it was really Gruden.

  

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260. "Washington targeting Chip Kelly for OC job...so Bienemy out either way"
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261. "He was part of Rivera’s staff unless they gave him the HC job which…"
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we know they weren’t he was gone

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262. "Patriots hire Alex Van Pelt as OC"
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263. "Raiders hire Kliff Kingsbury as OC"
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265. "RE: Raiders hire Kliff Kingsbury as OC"
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>.

We talk about dudes getting gigs they might not deserve. Kliff is one of those dudes by now right? His offenses DIE over the course of seasons. UGLY. All levels. Multiple times.

And trust me, I LOVED KLIFF as a college QB, so I ain't hatin. I'm glad he's around but I'm wondering about him.

Maybe with the Raiders he's gonna be just calling hella runs anyway so we'll see!

  

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266. "I'm not even a Kingsbury fan and I feel like this is exaggerated..."
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>We talk about dudes getting gigs they might not deserve. Kliff
>is one of those dudes by now right? His offenses DIE over the
>course of seasons. UGLY. All levels. Multiple times.
>
>And trust me, I LOVED KLIFF as a college QB, so I ain't hatin.
>I'm glad he's around but I'm wondering about him.
>
>Maybe with the Raiders he's gonna be just calling hella runs
>anyway so we'll see!

I think this the perfect job for him

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269. "Falling up like Lane "
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