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"2023 NBA Offseason News "
Fri May-19-23 04:40 PM by allStah

          

It’s being widely reported that James Harden is returning to Houston.

Well, that’s a wrap for Philly being a contender. Maxey takes over at the point,
but at 6’2 defensively he is really small, so a 1/2 punch of Maxey and Embid isn’t
going to cut it.

Harden was always going to go back to the South. He is no East coast cat and never
really liked it.

Harden/Porter/Green/Smith/Sengun…with mofo Udoka!

That’s a serious squad right there

We shall see if this all comes to fruition.

ALL HAIL THE KING of LOSING: LEBRON
Bulls | Bears | White Sox | Yankees | Notre Dame | Illinois | Chelsea | Real Madrid

  

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i will never understand harden to houston for either side.
May 19th 2023
1
I can only answer the 3rd question....
May 19th 2023
2
sheesh lol.
May 19th 2023
3
strip clubs are better, no state income tax, and he is king in houston
May 19th 2023
4
      You forgot absolutely no expectations for post season success…
May 19th 2023
5
      I’m sure in Houston there’s a few that sound like Slim Thug
May 20th 2023
      doubles nm
May 20th 2023
6
doc rivers is a finalist for the suns head coaching job.
May 23rd 2023
7
I’m really skeptical about the Harden to Houston stuff.
May 25th 2023
8
I guess the variable is what he’s able to “say”.
May 25th 2023
9
      Well, my biggest fear is that it's a message to Houston.
May 25th 2023
10
Bucks hiring Raptors assistant Adrian Griffin as new HC...
May 27th 2023
11
Okay, that's why...Nick Nurse to Philly confirmed
May 29th 2023
12
      Does this foretell that Harden is out of Philly?
May 29th 2023
13
      i feel like everyone knew Nurse would be in Philly.
May 29th 2023
14
           narrator:
May 29th 2023
15
Bob Meyers stepping down as Warriors' GM
May 30th 2023
16
interesting
May 30th 2023
17
Well, that's no good
May 30th 2023
18
Myers has been talking about this for at least 2 yrs now...
May 30th 2023
19
      my hope is he is the new GM of the Seattle Supersonics.
May 31st 2023
21
      Or he don't want to be on the hook for reupping Klay and Dray
May 31st 2023
22
      ^^This too^^
May 31st 2023
23
           lol i wouldn't want that shit on my resume either
May 31st 2023
24
      i think hes just looking to make more money in media.
May 31st 2023
30
      I don't think they do a full rebuild
May 31st 2023
37
Forever in debt to this man
May 31st 2023
25
for sure lol
May 31st 2023
26
We headed back to bball purgatory
May 31st 2023
38
that's how it goes
May 31st 2023
27
theyre talking about elevating kirk and kent lacob within the org.
May 31st 2023
29
The Lacob kids have been in the front office for years now
May 31st 2023
36
Yep. Changed the culture forever
May 31st 2023
34
the warriors became the most valuable franchise in nba history
May 31st 2023
31
      I would have bet everything I had the Lakers were worth more.
May 31st 2023
32
           A big factor is that they own the Chase Center themselves
May 31st 2023
33
                Ahhhh that makes a lot of sense.
May 31st 2023
35
Knicks not bringing Scott Perry back
May 31st 2023
20
Perry did pretty good, I hope it gives Wes more sway so we can get anoth...
Jun 01st 2023
43
pistons offering monty $10 mil/year.
May 31st 2023
28
Monty to Detroit, 6/72...deezam!
May 31st 2023
39
thats wild. i guess its just paper at the end of the day tho
May 31st 2023
40
i think thats an insane way for the owner to spend $72M
May 31st 2023
41
SHUCKY DUCKY QUACK QUACK!
Jun 01st 2023
42
He is being paid to do the same thing he did for Booker, Bridges
Jun 01st 2023
44
CORRECTION....
Jun 01st 2023
45
one detail I'm somewhat curious about
Jun 01st 2023
46
Silver: We bustin Ja ass after the Finals are over
Jun 01st 2023
47
sounds like a season long suspension coming the way he's talkin.
Jun 01st 2023
48
i think ja should get hammered. but i dont like silver doing this.
Jun 01st 2023
49
Anything more than 20 games would be excessive…not
Jun 01st 2023
50
did you miss the part where Silver said we got dirt on you doggie?
Jun 01st 2023
52
      Dirt on doggie?
Jun 01st 2023
53
           smh.
Jun 01st 2023
54
yeah its messy af lol. but at this point i have no sympathy for ja
Jun 01st 2023
51
Right. This is doing the exact opposite.
Jun 01st 2023
55
Anything more than 20 games is excessive iMO
Jun 01st 2023
56
It's going to depend on the other stuff.
Jun 01st 2023
57
Exactly.
Jun 01st 2023
58
No one here knows the details of Silver's original convo with Ja...
Jun 01st 2023
59
      There it is. He’s not the last dude to come along that can run and dun...
Jun 02nd 2023
65
      For a one year suspension?
Jun 02nd 2023
72
           He did this to himself...
Jun 02nd 2023
81
In addition to the punishment
Jun 02nd 2023
62
      wouldnt that be Ja sullying his own name?
Jun 02nd 2023
76
Wow...hadn't thought about this guy in a sec...Frank Vogel to Phoenix
Jun 02nd 2023
60
That's not the best job to have
Jun 02nd 2023
61
Massive L. Dude is so overrated. I think his assistants had more
Jun 02nd 2023
64
      Which assistants?
Jun 02nd 2023
66
      The same assistant who guided them to the WCF after winning
Jun 02nd 2023
70
           Not his fault they missed the *play-in*?
Jun 02nd 2023
73
      What smells fishy? Honest question...
Jun 02nd 2023
67
           It was fishy when he got the Laker job lol
Jun 02nd 2023
68
           No it wasn't. They lowballed Lue. The end.
Jun 02nd 2023
69
                there were other options besides Vogel
Jun 02nd 2023
77
                     Name names.
Jun 02nd 2023
78
                          The current HC in Dallas who was Vogel’s assistant?
Jun 02nd 2023
80
                               The guy who hasn’t accomplished what Vogel had?
Jun 03rd 2023
83
                                    The point is nobody was talking about Vogel, the Lakers wanted Kidd…
Jun 04th 2023
84
                                         Vogel hired Kidd for his staff.
Jun 05th 2023
89
                                              I know you like random arguments but Kidd was a candidate for HC…
Jun 05th 2023
90
                                                   Lol ok.
Jun 05th 2023
93
           Vogel hasn’t been mentioned with anything, and now out of
Jun 02nd 2023
71
                They probably should’ve given you a heads up, to be fair
Jun 02nd 2023
74
                     lmao
Jun 02nd 2023
75
                     Hahahahhahah
Jun 02nd 2023
79
Dunno if that'll work out but Ayton should thrive.
Jun 02nd 2023
63
I won't judge it on basketball, but that works for that town.
Jun 02nd 2023
82
Sam Cassell joining the Celtics' bench
Jun 05th 2023
85
Praise God
Jun 06th 2023
99
Chams say Kyrie reached out to Bron...
Jun 05th 2023
86
Bron, Kyrie and Luka? lol, the ball would have no air.
Jun 05th 2023
87
A+ level subject/message misdirect LMAO…
Jun 05th 2023
88
      Kryie must be bored.
Jun 05th 2023
91
      I can't believe how much the nets acquiesced to this guy (& KD)
Jun 05th 2023
94
           The Mavericks gave up three picks
Jun 05th 2023
95
           Brooklyn should have traded him when he said no to the vax
Jun 05th 2023
96
           mark needs to give kyrie a membership to that cheap drugs website.
Jun 05th 2023
97
      its from The Athletic sooo...
Jun 05th 2023
92
Knicks Twitter finally coming around to the idea that we can get
Jun 05th 2023
98
why would he leave Miami ?
Jun 06th 2023
100
      basically lol
Jun 06th 2023
101
      He’s a god in Miami.
Jun 06th 2023
102
      Knick fans think everyone wants to go there lol
Jun 06th 2023
103
      I don't suppose that he would either.
Jun 06th 2023
106
      And he loves to take walks on the beach at sunrise...with players.
Jun 07th 2023
110
LMAO
Jun 06th 2023
104
Who’s to say it wasn’t?
Jun 06th 2023
105
An online video of him doing the thing he said he’d never do again
Jun 07th 2023
112
      Some things don’t even deserve a reply. You know..
Jun 07th 2023
113
      I know
Jun 07th 2023
143
      what kind of idiot rolls around with a toy gun anyway
Jun 07th 2023
115
      It’s not what you know. It’s what you can prove.
Jun 07th 2023
117
           it doesn't matter if it was a toy or not.
Jun 07th 2023
118
           But is there any LEGAL LANGUAGE that he can’t show off guns
Jun 07th 2023
134
                no. i understand the conflict. it doesn't matter.
Jun 07th 2023
135
                There doesn’t have to be.
Jun 07th 2023
140
           This isn’t a legal issue, and it’s not a court of law.
Jun 07th 2023
119
           Is Adam Silver a judge? Is Ja on trial? I must have missed that.
Jun 07th 2023
142
the breakfast club is the only place ive seen report that.
Jun 06th 2023
107
and last time it was laser pointers...
Jun 06th 2023
109
      Right, I forgot about that.
Jun 07th 2023
111
i guess harden to houston was really just a leverage play after all?
Jun 06th 2023
108
He should have been an all star this year, he deserves his bag
Jun 07th 2023
114
Yeah, as I said in Reply 8, it doesn't make sense.
Jun 07th 2023
116
Zion name having a rough week in these streets lol
Jun 07th 2023
120
that’s his personal business..FOH
Jun 07th 2023
121
Shit this probably why he can’t get on the court
Jun 07th 2023
123
lmao
Jun 07th 2023
124
yo.
Jun 07th 2023
125
DNP - reverse cowgirl
Jun 07th 2023
126
i'm done.
Jun 07th 2023
127
lol
Jun 07th 2023
128
******TEARS*******
Jun 07th 2023
150
LOL
Jun 09th 2023
159
lmao
Jun 07th 2023
137
if he was playing it wouldn’t be news
Jun 07th 2023
138
i was honestly suprised he was with a black chick.
Jun 07th 2023
122
IKR? The milkman allegations made him run to the other side of the spect...
Jun 07th 2023
129
Twitter jokes and shame are one thing
Jun 07th 2023
130
btw shaq about to be on that zion monthly payment plan.
Jun 07th 2023
131
      Shaq is smarter than people give him credit for
Jun 07th 2023
136
           The cocktail dress & Jeans and sunday afternoon pull over
Jun 07th 2023
139
           so funny when you see a really rich dude out w/ a woman sometimes.
Jun 07th 2023
141
Suns are releasing CP3.
Jun 07th 2023
132
Suns hit CP3 with the long kiss goodnight....waived
Jun 07th 2023
133
shams and woj reporting is contradicting that chris haynes story.
Jun 07th 2023
144
Haynes lives for the messiness
Jun 07th 2023
145
Damn...thought it was a done deal
Jun 07th 2023
146
"Mutual resolution" means he's gone from the team tho
Jun 07th 2023
147
      the haynes tweet was either accurate or it wasnt.
Jun 07th 2023
148
           Well, it was inaccurate in one sense:
Jun 07th 2023
149
Everything is being rebooted these days.
Jun 08th 2023
153
12 years later? no thanks...
Jun 09th 2023
160
Man, that window was narrow
Jun 08th 2023
154
nm.
Jun 07th 2023
151
adam silver got jokes.
Jun 08th 2023
152
LMAO he wrong for that
Jun 08th 2023
155
Yeaaaaah Ja is suspended suspended
Jun 08th 2023
156
LOL
Jun 08th 2023
157
btw he sure does talk about ja a lot
Jun 09th 2023
158
      He sure gets asked about it a lot
Jun 09th 2023
      he made that ja joke voluntarily.
Jun 09th 2023
162
      .
Jun 09th 2023
161
nba media starting to push the cp3 in golden state narrative.
Jun 12th 2023
163
I can’t see it
Jun 12th 2023
164
Despite all the talk about money and chemistry re: GSW
Jun 12th 2023
165
RE: nba media speculating on ideas that will drive clicks and views
Jun 12th 2023
166
Zero chance cp3 ego could take riding Steph coattails
Jun 12th 2023
167
exactly
Jun 12th 2023
168
Paul literally booted Steph out of those State Farm Commercials...
Jun 12th 2023
169
Anyone paying Paul more than $1 for basketball is insane.
Jun 14th 2023
177
Fred Van Vleet opting out, will be UFA in July.
Jun 12th 2023
170
does anybody care about the Toronto coach or know who he is?
Jun 12th 2023
171
Givony reporting GSW is looking to deal Kuminga for a high draft pick.
Jun 14th 2023
172
If they’re in win now mode I can’t see them going after another…
Jun 14th 2023
178
      Why not? Plenty of them in this draft.
Jun 14th 2023
179
Wiz and Beal's reps discussing trade destinations
Jun 14th 2023
173
I wonder if he's going to put Boston on his list
Jun 14th 2023
174
man, I wanna see yall with Gallo healthy for a full season
Jun 14th 2023
175
Honestly cannot believe he has a no trade clause
Jun 14th 2023
176
      Yeah I don't get why the Wiz did that
Jun 15th 2023
185
when does the Ja suspension drop? Day after parade or we gotta
Jun 15th 2023
180
Perk just said he'd like to see Ja in Miami....
Jun 15th 2023
181
      does anyone really care about his opinion. dude just be talking to talk
Jun 15th 2023
183
did anybody else get an email from Adam Sliver?
Jun 15th 2023
182
nah i'm 4 email accounts passed the one i created an nba.com account
Jun 15th 2023
184
yep
Jun 16th 2023
yep
Jun 16th 2023
188
Yep
Jun 16th 2023
189
Nuggets had their parade today; when's that Ja suspension dropping?
Jun 15th 2023
186
Dunleavy Jr to be the new Warriors GM
Jun 16th 2023
187
MJ selling his majority stake in the Hornets
Jun 16th 2023
190
Ja Morant Suspended for 25 games.
Jun 16th 2023
191
reasonable
Jun 16th 2023
192
if you see my edit, agreed.
Jun 16th 2023
193
25 piece spicy all flats!
Jun 16th 2023
194
LOL
Jun 16th 2023
195
fried hard!
Jun 16th 2023
197
if Memphis start the season like 23-2, I'm cookin'
Jun 16th 2023
196
lmao
Jun 16th 2023
198
hahaha.
Jun 16th 2023
199
LOL
Jun 16th 2023
221
Would be wild if he still manages to make the All Star game next year.
Jun 16th 2023
200
pretty sure if he got voted in, nba would fudge that shit
Jun 16th 2023
201
Good. And I don’t want every NBA lead story being about him.
Jun 16th 2023
202
Objectively, probably where it should be.
Jun 16th 2023
203
agreed. i thought he would get more but this seems fair.
Jun 16th 2023
204
The Apology:
Jun 16th 2023
205
sounds good and hope it's sincere.
Jun 16th 2023
206
That apology to his sponsors was a nice touch.
Jun 16th 2023
209
i thought that too.
Jun 16th 2023
211
feels like a copy and paste of his last apology
Jun 16th 2023
237
This seems reasonable.
Jun 16th 2023
222
After all the shit Silver was talking, I was expecting "Wrath of God!"
Jun 16th 2023
207
I have a feeling
Jun 16th 2023
210
technically he didn't break any laws, didn't point a gun at anyone...
Jun 16th 2023
212
Right. Plus it DID disrupt the finals, ha.
Jun 16th 2023
220
      they literally could have said nothing. If asked, the answer could be
Jun 16th 2023
223
           100%. I was truly thinking this would be WAY worse.
Jun 16th 2023
225
                why? he's just dumb and has dumb friends he's not a criminal...
Jun 16th 2023
226
                     Only because of what Silver said.
Jun 16th 2023
227
                     legally I don't think Silver could've done more because like I said...
Jun 16th 2023
229
                          Honest question: Does the NBA have one of those "for the good of...
Jun 16th 2023
230
                          I don’t think so…
Jun 16th 2023
234
                               Probably helps that the NBA's PA is a lot stronger than the NFL's
Jun 16th 2023
236
                                    RE: Probably helps that the NBA's PA is a lot stronger than the NFL's
Jun 16th 2023
239
                          players association makes alot of noise but when have they ever
Jun 16th 2023
231
                          This is a very unique situation, technically Ja did nothing wrong…
Jun 16th 2023
233
                               What's that got to do with the players association being able to
Jun 20th 2023
299
                               Nah he’s a face of the league
Jun 27th 2023
407
                          'legally' is kind of a hard word to pin down in this case.
Jun 16th 2023
238
                               RE: 'legally' is kind of a hard word to pin down in this case.
Jun 16th 2023
240
                                    RE: 'legally' is kind of a hard word to pin down in this case.
Jun 16th 2023
241
                     Could have been worse, not should have been worse
Jun 16th 2023
228
Mike Dunleavy, Jr. named Warriors GM
Jun 16th 2023
208
NBPA unhappy with Ja's suspension. Here we go!
Jun 16th 2023
213
Guess my theory in post 210 was dead wrong.
Jun 16th 2023
214
Unions gonna union.
Jun 16th 2023
215
      yup, reply 135.
Jun 16th 2023
217
NGL, I've never heard that NBPA Exec Director's name...
Jun 16th 2023
216
There’s always a player president and an executive director who is…
Jun 16th 2023
218
OOOOKAY! Michelle Roberts' name helps me understand. Thanks
Jun 16th 2023
219
      just like NFLPA exec dir DeMaurice you rarely hear about until...
Jun 16th 2023
235
you really only hear their names when its contract negotiation time
Jun 16th 2023
224
Expressed his remorse. LMFAO
Jun 16th 2023
232
Reports...Suns and Heat in serious talks with Wiz for Beal
Jun 17th 2023
242
chris haynes: suns could get beal with chris paul and landry shamet.
Jun 18th 2023
243
david aldridge is saying chris paul and ayton for beal.
Jun 18th 2023
244
      I’m seeing Aston not part of the deal
Jun 18th 2023
246
Woj Bomb: Sources: Suns finalizing trade for Wizards' Bradley Beal
Jun 18th 2023
245
Godfather Riley bout to go so fucking hard for Dame
Jun 18th 2023
247
is it safe to assume
Jun 18th 2023
248
Got to be, right?
Jun 18th 2023
249
The 5th starter only needs to be a 3&D…
Jun 18th 2023
251
If the Suns do indeed trade for Beal
Jun 18th 2023
255
If the Heat get Dame and someone like Azibuikwe from UTAH....
Jun 18th 2023
254
AND GOT RID OF CHRIS PAUL. Leeeeeeeets go!
Jun 18th 2023
252
looks like haynes redeemed himself. wild times.
Jun 18th 2023
253
that hot seat for **Frank** Vogel finna be on full blast status
Jun 18th 2023
256
      Frank Vogel...
Jun 18th 2023
258
This will blow up in the Suns face big time......
Jun 18th 2023
260
yeah I don't get it
Jun 18th 2023
265
      Most teams 3rd best perimeter defender can’t guard Beal one on one…
Jun 19th 2023
270
gonna be hilarious when Denver drops them in 5 games …again
Jun 20th 2023
296
Yoooo...
Jun 18th 2023
250
Damn
Jun 18th 2023
261
They HAD to sign Beal to keep him from leaving 4 nothing then get that?
Jun 19th 2023
269
I guess Silver is not even going to address the nepotism…
Jun 20th 2023
295
      What is there to address?
Jun 20th 2023
300
Wizards have to blow up their roster and tank, right?
Jun 18th 2023
257
Man it’s the Wizards, expect anything and nothing
Jun 18th 2023
259
“contend”?
Jun 18th 2023
262
Wiz fan here and I think I speak for most when I say
Jun 18th 2023
263
Fellow Wiz fan here and I concur
Jun 18th 2023
266
      Wiz going all in on a full OKC style reboot taking back expiring...
Jun 19th 2023
279
what would be the difference?
Jun 18th 2023
264
      It would serve the Wizard's best interests
Jun 20th 2023
297
I’ll guess that no trade clause is gonna go away on the next CBA
Jun 19th 2023
267
I agree with every word you said...
Jun 19th 2023
268
How are they going to defend anyone
Jun 19th 2023
272
oh, they aren't. LOL....
Jun 19th 2023
275
people thought that about BK but they could rarely get all 3 guys...
Jun 19th 2023
273
people thought that about BK but they could rarely get all 3 guys...
Jun 19th 2023
274
      Beal’s fragile , physically and I think mentally
Jun 19th 2023
276
           definitely not fragile mentally, being a 3rd option not having to carry....
Jun 19th 2023
280
It doesn’t need to be in the CBA. Teams just need to stop giving them ...
Jun 19th 2023
271
Yeah I'm holding off until they move Ayton
Jun 19th 2023
277
in take it for what's it's worth news: Zion won't be a Pelican by Thursd...
Jun 19th 2023
278
I just listened to a pod this weekend...
Jun 19th 2023
285
Draymond opting for free agency.
Jun 19th 2023
281
I think GS works out a deal to keep him
Jun 19th 2023
283
i think so too.
Jun 19th 2023
284
taking his talents to Los Angeles
Jun 19th 2023
286
we'll see, but this had me going:
Jun 19th 2023
287
      LOL...accurate
Jun 19th 2023
288
      lmao. AD's the dude looking on in the background
Jun 19th 2023
292
Makes sense if he's re-signing for a more team-friendly deal
Jun 19th 2023
289
      this would be a bold choice to make the fanbase hate you immediately.
Jun 19th 2023
290
           Only way it would work is if he announced some HUGE move first
Jun 19th 2023
291
Cam Payne is probably the happiest guy in all of this he was out...
Jun 19th 2023
282
Damn, CP3 found out through his son, not the team, thinks Zeke did it
Jun 19th 2023
293
Not really a big deal it was known they were moving on from him…
Jun 20th 2023
294
kendrick perkins said the suns are the best team in the league
Jun 20th 2023
298
BREAKING: talks to send dat Staps headed to Beantown
Jun 21st 2023
301
That’s big.
Jun 21st 2023
302
yeah that needs to stop now
Jun 21st 2023
304
      It’s weird. I’d get it if they were in the gutter.
Jun 21st 2023
312
oh helll yes
Jun 21st 2023
305
Woj say it's about to go down...
Jun 21st 2023
306
some Celtics fans don't like the trade. I'm like WTF
Jun 21st 2023
307
      send the haters this info. maybe it'll help them understand.
Jun 21st 2023
309
      It'll be a substantial change to the defense when he's on.
Jun 21st 2023
314
Apparently not lol
Jun 21st 2023
316
Knicks Twitter Media have tape of Obi complaining about Thibs
Jun 21st 2023
303
Given how much the front office empowers Thibs
Jun 22nd 2023
326
And now the Knicks signed his younger brother
Jun 23rd 2023
363
per Jake Fisher of Yahoo...Blazers set to make a "compelling"...
Jun 21st 2023
308
why would Bam do that?
Jun 21st 2023
310
They better keep that 3rd pick and knock it out of the park
Jun 21st 2023
311
Odd target IMO
Jun 21st 2023
313
I don’t see it
Jun 21st 2023
315
damn Celtics out here fleecing the league.
Jun 21st 2023
317
Tyus going to the Wizards but still it's a great deal for the Celtics
Jun 21st 2023
319
Zingis and two firsts for Smart and Gallo is transparently a good deal.
Jun 22nd 2023
321
it is a great deal
Jun 22nd 2023
323
      This really works for Memphis, because they needed to fill a void
Jun 22nd 2023
327
           Agreed. I like this deal way better for Memphis.
Jun 22nd 2023
329
                The draft picks Boston got
Jun 22nd 2023
330
                     True, but the picks look kinda meh
Jun 22nd 2023
332
NGL...the Marcus Smart part HURTS me...
Jun 22nd 2023
324
      exactly they're going to miss him
Jun 22nd 2023
325
      Have to wonder
Jun 22nd 2023
328
      yeah we'll see him get an ovation next year when he returns
Jun 22nd 2023
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      I hate it. He’s the heart and soul of the team.
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      Sucks. Can’t imagine him playing in another uniform.
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Khris Middleton opts out.
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should go to Philly
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Almost certainly re-signing with Bucks on a more cap-friendly deal.
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They better come correct for him to be turning down $40M to help them
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      There's just no way he bails on this situation.
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           but why not do that for $40M?
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I don't see how the Bucks give him a new deal for $45+ a year
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Shams: CP3 to Golden State, Jordan Poole to Washington.
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LOL..WHAT?!?!?!?!??
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someone in here said CP3 would never be 2nd fiddle to Steph.
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I didn't think so...
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Like I said above, makes sense to me
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not for the Wizards, they traded Beal's contract for Poole's?
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      I think if Poole shows maturity and consistency as a top dog
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I'll leave it to other folks to crack jokes about the CP3 aspect of the ...
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Let's be clear: I love Tyus Jones...
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agreed lol...
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didn't Kuz opt out?
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      twitter sources saying Kuz to the Dubs.
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           Sign Kuzma and then flip him and CP3 for Giannis!
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and now my Nino Brown moment. I have to root against CP3
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i cant believe that shit really happened lol.
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Yean, I don't like it.
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CP3's easily moveable this offseason, fwiw.
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LOL!
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GS getting the Poole contract off their books is an unqualified win.
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Agreed with all this.
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plus its pretty clear the vets wanted poole gone.
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who cares what their vets want?
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      Even Steph ain’t want that mf around by the end of the season
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           bro said who cares like steph dont run the bay.
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           letting him dictate FO moves as he enters his mid 30s...
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                clearly it is lol.
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                They knew the Poole contract was a mistake when they signed it…
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                ^^^
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                so what would you have them do here?
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                right. bro is acting like they traded away kevon looney.
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                     right. i'm by no means saying Poole is untalented.
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                he is the greatest player they will ever have. you appease him
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           I hardly watched the Warriors
Jun 23rd 2023
           there were more instances like example #1.
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                and dont forget steph giving that speech before game 7 in sacramento
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           I hardly watched the Warriors
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RE: GS getting the Poole contract off their books is an unqualified win.
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      He ain't winning 6MOY, but I think he can contribute in this sort of rol...
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This is stupid. Paul killed the Suns by slowing them to a slog.
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he's definitely not going to do that there, he didn't do it in Houston.....
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it's a concern but not quite that big
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      Yeah but he's 38 now and even more injury prone.
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I've been slowly warming to this
Jun 23rd 2023
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CP3's first practice:
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Lot of chatter, let's call it what it is, a salary dump
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Great trade for the dubs because Jordan wasn't listening to Steph
Jun 24th 2023
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I used to attend a few Wizards games yearly…
Jun 23rd 2023
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I see the phrase "widely reported" is another that's lost all meaning
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Man, listen, in Knicks Twitter, widely reported could mean the
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Mark Stein says Mavs/Hawks were discussing a deal before...
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Cam Johnson's pockets are about to be SUPER straight
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surprised Brooklyn would let him go
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      they might not, Windhorst said they're prepared to match up to like
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Atlanta sending John Collins to Utah for Rudy Gay and a future 2nd...
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with the looming new CBA, expect to see way more salary dumps...
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Id retire
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      YOU go live in Utah! (c)Derek Harper
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      Two Americas © Bomani Jones
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      lol Vegas and LA are short cheap flights plus he’s a military brat…
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      SLC is fun. And Vegas is close.
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           Fun for whom
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                yeah i hear people say that shit all the time and i don't believe it
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                     I think it was Charles who said 'everywhere is nice if you're rich'
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                     the only thing worth seeing in Utah are the national parks. stunning
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                     lol, it's not a complete shithole or anything but...
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Media trying to force Dame out of Portland bc they got nothing else...
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this is all of dames making.
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I’m missing the concrete reporting stating that he bitched about stuff
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      well?
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agreed its funny now how they make it "bad" for a player to want to...
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no nuanced takes either. all these meatheads are saying the same shit
Jun 27th 2023
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      everybody wants to be a fantasy team GM, since Bron & KD…
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L
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Big 3 on CBS…
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Some fans think it's silly but I'd trade Jaylen Brown for Dame
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upgrade not a downgrade. idc if Jaylen younger or whatever...
Jul 04th 2023
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Is that offer on the table or we just being fantasy GM?
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It's been rumored the Celtics had interest
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would you swap him for Dejounte though?
Jul 05th 2023
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Orlando: “Bye bye, Bol Bol.”
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Its amazing to me. With Wemby going #1, Bol is going to be motivated
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Bro he’s ass. He should head to Peru right now.
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People here have been trying to make the Wemby comparison forever…
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      Oh they have the same skills. One is just far more skilled at ‘em lol
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i love Bol Bol. been high on him forever.
Jul 05th 2023
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... I mean, Orlando was better with him off the floor.
Jul 05th 2023
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Lakers should take a flier
Jul 05th 2023
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Mo Bamba taught you nothing huh?
Jul 05th 2023
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I had high hopes for him, at least he had a cool rap song lol
Jul 07th 2023
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Yuck
Jul 05th 2023
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Magic gave him 20mpg then waived him. I think we know how this ends.
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      People don't realize how much his minutes dwindled down the stretch.
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      Big Mo took a major step the last 2 years
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      I think the issue is similar to the 'running quarterback'
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           the issue is that he isnt good
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           You can't blame systems for Bol's shortcomings, though.
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      I'm rooting for him, but you're not wrong
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I'm happy with what the Cavs have done.
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i need my guy Caris to stay healthy
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      Yeah, last year was one of his healthiest seasons
Jul 15th 2023
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damn jordan poole looks like hes aged 10 years in 2 months.
Jul 07th 2023
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its the chops 😂
Jul 07th 2023
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      bro looks stressed and depressed.
Jul 08th 2023
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In-season tourney details announced...
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I'm a bit confused about how to feel about this
Jul 08th 2023
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Hard yawn. So unnecessary.
Jul 08th 2023
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The NBA/Media has done so much to build up chips
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      if winning players got $2M ea or more it would be better
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I don’t like that the groups are divided by Conference
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the league is full of gimmicks at this point
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Agree on all of this. That’s why I’m big on college hoops.
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Lol christ you're fucking miserable
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      playoffs pre-finals were the highest rated in 11 years.
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      lol ...nah
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           lol ...sure guy
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           No dog in this fight, but re: super teams
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                ^^Ding ding ding
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Could be interesting
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Yeah, this is fucking stupid. There's no point to it at all
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      Yeah like literally whats the point
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      The only thing that would make sense
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      If it continues, within a few years teams that pull a double (cup/chip)
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Pop re-signs for 5/80. All in for the Wemby era.
Jul 08th 2023
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he's going to die in that chair that's why Tim and Becky moved on
Jul 10th 2023
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I know I'm an old traditionalist but this new "in season tournament"...
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It's dumb, but really doesn't change much.
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Wait til someone gets injured in this tournament
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most people thought the play-in tournament was stupid.
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      You're right but...
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      right I can see them getting pissed when Pop "load manages"
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      if you don't care what do you lose?
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      its not about caring who wins the money
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           plus its not just about the player's caring, what is the team's incentiv...
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           they should play for 10% cap relief the next season
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                right. its gotta be for something lol
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                ^^ great idea
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                     it was kind of a throwaway line when i typed it, but...
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           I mean, it’s enough money for 7-14
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      I don't think 'most' people thought the playoff tournament was dumb
Jul 12th 2023
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           the idea that this is difficult is only because we're not used to it
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           nah...can you answer any of these questions?
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           I think you’re way overthinking this
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                Its a question bc i literally have no idea what it means. I never claime...
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                     How/why would the NBA even answer that question though?
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                          I mean someone already explained why the soccer comparison
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           not exactly
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           wondered about that but i no nothing about soccer
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           pretty much, plus I expect format changes in subsequent years.
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           And I definitely have this wrong, but it’s like 6 days over a whole mo...
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Harry Giles sighting? Knicks about to do Obi double dirty....
Jul 12th 2023
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God, I'd love to see Harry get a shot.
Jul 12th 2023
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see this is why kd needs to stop going back and forth with randos.
Jul 13th 2023
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I like dude as a comedian but he needs to stfu
Jul 14th 2023
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Durant needs to not feed the trolls
Jul 14th 2023
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nah, you got this all fucked up. KD hurt that man bad.
Jul 14th 2023
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KD really be moving odd as hell
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Sorry to link the NY Post, but Zion essentially admitted to a food addic...
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Somebody needs to make new post this shit is too big lol
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Reeq
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1. "i will never understand harden to houston for either side."
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so harden is done trying to seriously contend for a chip? (thats why he left in the first place)

and houston is gonna commit big money to harden for several rebuild years to lead/mentor a team of young dudes who already have a reputation for being undisciplined and immature?

damn are the strip clubs that much better in houston?

  

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2. "I can only answer the 3rd question...."
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>so harden is done trying to seriously contend for a chip?
>(thats why he left in the first place)
>
>and houston is gonna commit big money to harden for several
>rebuild years to lead/mentor a team of young dudes who already
>have a reputation for being undisciplined and immature?
>
>damn are the strip clubs that much better in houston?

yes lol

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3. "sheesh lol."
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4. "strip clubs are better, no state income tax, and he is king in houston"
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easy ass decision if you ask me.
philly hoes prob sound like Freeway too i'd be running from that city

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5. "You forgot absolutely no expectations for post season success…"
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he can just play out the string

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"I’m sure in Houston there’s a few that sound like Slim Thug "
Sat May-20-23 09:18 AM by guru0509

  

          

>easy ass decision if you ask me.
>philly hoes prob sound like Freeway too i'd be running from
>that city


Harden tried winning a ring but a global pandemic stopped him

In Philly the emphasis was on getting Joel the MVP , not playoff success

He did his part , in his head he’s trying to finish w the 💰 and zero injuries

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6. "doubles nm"
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Nm

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7. "doc rivers is a finalist for the suns head coaching job."
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1661198244020469761

  

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8. "I’m really skeptical about the Harden to Houston stuff."
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Because it’s reported Harden wants to play for a team that will compete. Well… that’s not Houston. Especially if they have to pay him the max (which he also clearly wants).

I’ve no doubt Houston front office wants to see the wins go up, because they could all be toast after another bad season, so I get their interest to *some* extent (especially since they don’t have a 2024 pick if memory serves). And I’ve no doubt Harden loves Houston, loves being king of the city. If he doesn’t care about winning at all, he could cash huge checks and do the Damian Lillard thing on the way to a barely-.500 season.

… but I think he’ll be back in Philly if he *actually* wants to compete. Especially because he has Philly COMPLETELY over a barrel for the reason you stated. If they don’t pay him, they’re not competitive any more, and they risk pissing off Embiid. So they just have to offer him a 4-year max.

We’ll see if the “he wants to compete” claims are just bullshit end of the day, lol.

Also, fwiw, if we see a Harden/Green/Porter/Smith/Sengun starting 5 next season, we’re officially on watch for what could be the worst defense in the history of the NBA, lol. They’d be electric on offense and absolutely beyond dreadful on defense. It’d be incredibly fun to watch so I kinda hope it happens for that reason alone, lmao.

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9. "I guess the variable is what he’s able to “say”. "
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Like, similar to Dame…they can SAY publicly they want to compete, but do they? It’s entirely possible Hardens just like, “I could ring chase at the end I guess. Let’s get paid and live like a king”. I can’t blame someone for doing that, but at the same time - you’d be absolutely FLAMED if you said that out loud so…

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10. "Well, my biggest fear is that it's a message to Houston."
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And that message is "do everything you have to do to build a win-now team." Trade the 4th pick, trade Porter, trade Sengun, trade Jabari if you have to.

I just... don't know if you can shift your entire timeline from "win 4-5 years from now" to "win today" over the course of a summer, especially considering they don't have all their first rounders going forward.

Feels like a world in which they mortgage the future to play, like, Green, Harden, Pat Bev, Anunoby, maybe they pay a laughably fucking huge deal to Brook Lopez... y'know, some very 44-win-ceiling-ass team like this.

Like, I think Portland has some decisions to make about Dame if Scoot falls into their lap at 3. (We talked about this elsewhere, Ryan.) Because if you have enough youth assets on the roster, trying to run concurrently old timeline and young timeline players at the same time is an insane tightrope to walk.

So it's like Houston... *wants* to be in that boat, lmao. And yeah, I just kinda think they're going to put themselves in a position where they're totally fucked if they sign Harden. Just completely fucked for, like, over half a decade. And I like a lot of their talent (even if the fit is super weird right now), so I hope they don't do it.

(I also just can't imagine a world in which Philly doesn't offer Harden legitimately the entire world to stay, lol.)

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11. "Bucks hiring Raptors assistant Adrian Griffin as new HC..."
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apparently, Nick Nurse took his name out of rhe process. Wonder if he has a handshake deal somewhere. Woj says dude is Giannis-approved, so good for him.

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12. "Okay, that's why...Nick Nurse to Philly confirmed "
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.

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13. "Does this foretell that Harden is out of Philly?"
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Because I can't see Harden playing for a coach who is so "difficult." (you know, its bad when the white coach is thought to be problematic. LOL)

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14. "i feel like everyone knew Nurse would be in Philly."
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makes the most sense for them.

wonder if he can get them over the hump.

  

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15. "narrator:"
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"he did not get them over the hump"


Nick Nurse needs to send Kawhi one hellofa thank you gift

  

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16. "Bob Meyers stepping down as Warriors' GM"
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17. "interesting"
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18. "Well, that's no good"
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I honestly thought he'd be there until Steph retired.

I've said before that they've been training Lacob's kid for a while now. Like, even during those first few championship seasons. Same with Dunleavy Jr. and ZaZa. And Livingston is on the rise. I'd guess either of the first probably gets the job.

This probably complicates Draymond staying after this year. He's a big Myers guy. And probably could have convinced him to take a team-friendly extension. So... we'll see.

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19. "Myers has been talking about this for at least 2 yrs now..."
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..I don't think he was looking fwd to a rebuild.

Whether this signals the official start of that rebuild remains to be seen, but GSW has quite a few things to consider at this point.

Myers can pretty much rest, reset, and write his own ticket in the next few years. Not a bad position to be in at all.


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21. "my hope is he is the new GM of the Seattle Supersonics."
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we are supposedly getting them back in the next couple years.

some stuff i saw in the reporting of his departure sort of hinted at him being involved in something like that.

  

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22. "Or he don't want to be on the hook for reupping Klay and Dray"
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haha

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23. "^^This too^^"
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..Somebody has to take the hit, and it won't be Bob lol.


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24. "lol i wouldn't want that shit on my resume either"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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30. "i think hes just looking to make more money in media."
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there are some breadcrumbs out there about him aligning with deep pocketed silicon valley investors and getting into the media space.

i dont even think his decision is much about basketball and team building.

shit...this year his biggest in-season moves were trading james wiseman and bringing back gp2 (both at the urging of the vets) and signing two way player anthony lamb to a full contract. he never even really made any effort to bolster the dubs interior...their glaring weakness all season. and in the pre-deadline period of a few weeks when rob pelinka completely revamped the lakers roster...myers was releasing 4 episodes of his podcast in partnership with espn lol.

that didnt sound like a guy who gave a much of a shit about his future as gm lol.

  

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37. "I don't think they do a full rebuild"
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Again, who knows whether they decide to re-up Dray and Klay, how much it would cost, and how it would effect the team either way? But I think they could probably bring back the same core of the team next season (yes, even Poole) and probably be in the mix. Not front-runners in the conference or anything, but in the mix.

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25. "Forever in debt to this man "
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Who changed the franchise I’ve loved since I was a kid

Idk how it’s going to play out, but if I’m being honest we probably used our basketball juju for the next few decades once this is fully over.

I’ll be here regardless. Calling in to FM 95.7 the game. First time; longggggg time

  

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26. "for sure lol"
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>Idk how it’s going to play out, but if I’m being honest we
>probably used our basketball juju for the next few decades
>once this is fully over.
>

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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38. "We headed back to bball purgatory "
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And it’s strangely comforting.

Because it’s familiar

  

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27. "that's how it goes"
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>Idk how it’s going to play out, but if I’m being honest we
>probably used our basketball juju for the next few decades
>once this is fully over.

Dubs have had more extended success than most teams. once it ends you usually have 10 (or more) year wait for the next run.

it was a helluva ride though if it's really over.

  

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29. "theyre talking about elevating kirk and kent lacob within the org."
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looks like lacob is grooming his fam to run things even if it isnt immediately this year.

and you know the history of franchises being controlled by nepo/crony babies at the top.

  

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36. "The Lacob kids have been in the front office for years now"
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Even during their first championship season they were talking up how Myers was working with at least one of them.

So they may end up being nepo-baby goofballs, but they've spent time paying dues.

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34. "Yep. Changed the culture forever"
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Hopefully set up enough infrastructure and trained his successors enough that the transition won't be a bumpy as it's been with other times.

Regardless, I've seen fire and I've seen rain with this team, so I'm fully prepared to watch what comes next. Going from four championships/six Finals appearances in eight seasons to just play-off/barely outside the play-offs team really isn't that much to complain about. Besides, I figure this will be really over once Steph retires.

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31. "the warriors became the most valuable franchise in nba history"
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under his tenure.

first to crack $7 bil and first not to be the knicks or the lakers.

and just a small way off from surpassing the dallas cowboys as the most valuable sports franchise in the world.

and then you had the success on the court.

bro is a made man.

  

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32. "I would have bet everything I had the Lakers were worth more."
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Knicks too, probably - but the Lakers have had a lot more recent success.

That's absolutely insane.

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33. "A big factor is that they own the Chase Center themselves"
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Which looked like it might backfire during the height of the pandemic, because they initially had BIG plans of keeping that spot jumping when the nights the Warriors didn't have games.

It hasn't been until last year, or more likely this year, that they've got it really up and running. From the summer to the winter they're hosting Drake, the LL hip-hop tour, Bruce Springsteen, Madonna, Pink, John Mayer, SZA, etc.

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35. "Ahhhh that makes a lot of sense."
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20. "Knicks not bringing Scott Perry back"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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43. "Perry did pretty good, I hope it gives Wes more sway so we can get anoth..."
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coach.

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28. "pistons offering monty $10 mil/year."
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1663945135682465793

  

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39. "Monty to Detroit, 6/72...deezam!"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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40. "thats wild. i guess its just paper at the end of the day tho"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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41. "i think thats an insane way for the owner to spend $72M"
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they wont even know if its working until theyve given him like $30M

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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42. "SHUCKY DUCKY QUACK QUACK!"
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- thats exactly what Monty said when he saw those numbers.

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44. "He is being paid to do the same thing he did for Booker, Bridges"
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Johnson, and Ayton…get them out of the cellar and develop young players.

This is a huge win for both sides…..

Cade Cunningham, Ivey, are about to evolve like crazy

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45. "CORRECTION...."
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6/78.5....an extra 1.1 mil a year for my guy
...do you have to get every last dollar?? Yes! (c)Steve Nash

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46. "one detail I'm somewhat curious about"
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Dwane Casey, the former coach for the Pistons, moved up to the front office. I wonder how much sway Casey had in deciding these numbers. With numbers that huge, ownership obviously had the final say. Still wonder if Casey went to bat for Williams though.

With a hefty contact like that, I would have to assume Monty Williams' job security will be stone granite secure, which is beyond rare for NBA head coaches, much less black ones. I hope his six years aren't mired in dread; Detroit sliding in the recent draft with respect to their record was a very bad look.

Secondly, I wonder if this will up the rate for future coaching hires; in particular Budenholzer.

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47. "Silver: We bustin Ja ass after the Finals are over"
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https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1664416531802120193

Adam Silver on Ja Morant: “We’ve uncovered a fair amount of additional information. We probably could have brought it to a head now, but we’ve made the decision that it would be unfair to these players and these teams to announce that decision in the middle of this series.”

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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48. "sounds like a season long suspension coming the way he's talkin."
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49. "i think ja should get hammered. but i dont like silver doing this."
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just say the league is continuing to investigate and then release the penalty and relevant information after the finals.

no need to tease it like a gossip item and make everyone speculate during the finals.

because itll definitely be talked about on every sports outlet.

  

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50. "Anything more than 20 games would be excessive…not "
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supporting showcasing a gun or gun modeling, but that’s all he did for
like one second.

No gun charges. No drug charges. No criminal charges period, and it was
a split second in a video.


Anything more the 20 games…get the lawyers involved and the PU better step in.

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52. "did you miss the part where Silver said we got dirt on you doggie?"
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no way to say what's excessive if they got the goods.

  

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53. "Dirt on doggie?"
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Is it more dirt than on Adam and the NBA for doing business and in bed
with a country that is trying to kill off a race and deny people human rights?…
more dirt than Adam making blood money, and hushing the league up about it?

The real killers.

Morant is no different than Iverson, Jordan( used to gamble and hang with killers, pimps
and gangsters), Rasheed,etc….Young basketball players who made mistakes because
they were young and dumb.

Iverson was ARRESTED on gun and drug possession. He was given 3 years probation…
I think he got a one game suspension for that.

If nothing criminal occurred and no charges or arrest, anything more than
20 games would be excessive. Period.

One year suspension? FOH

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54. "smh."
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did this really require you getting on your high horse for that sermon?

no one is saying the NBA are some angels.

doesn't change the fact that if they got more receipts on Ja, he's getting bopped.

  

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51. "yeah its messy af lol. but at this point i have no sympathy for ja"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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55. "Right. This is doing the exact opposite. "
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I mean, this Finals looks like it's going to be shit.

The talking heads need to fill their shows with something the next 48 hours. And now, we know what it'll be!

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56. "Anything more than 20 games is excessive iMO "
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A whole season is a lot

He didn’t pull a Gilbert arenas and bring them into the locker room (that I know of lol)

82 games is back breaking

A wholhttps://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1664416531802120193
>
>Adam Silver on Ja Morant: “We’ve uncovered a fair amount
>of additional information. We probably could have brought it
>to a head now, but we’ve made the decision that it would be
>unfair to these players and these teams to announce that
>decision in the middle of this series.”

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57. "It's going to depend on the other stuff."
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There's a LOT of smoke with Ja. It's not just about the 2 IG gun incidents, clearly.

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58. "Exactly. "
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59. "No one here knows the details of Silver's original convo with Ja..."
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..What we do know is that Morant went back on his word.

You don't go on an apology tour (interview with Jalen Rose) and openly admit you were wrong and will never repeat that behavior, only to do just that not even 2 months later.

He won't win any appeal, regardless of the punishment.


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65. "There it is. He’s not the last dude to come along that can run and dun..."
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Full year


>..What we do know is that Morant went back on his word.
>
>You don't go on an apology tour (interview with Jalen Rose)
>and openly admit you were wrong and will never repeat that
>behavior, only to do just that not even 2 months later.
>
>He won't win any appeal, regardless of the punishment.
>
>
>*skatin' the rings of saturn*
>
>
>..and miles to go before i sleep...

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72. "For a one year suspension? "
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You’re nuts. There will be major pushback, even from the players if Ja
gets suspended for an entire year.

Ja bright zero guns to any nba facility..and a lot of the other stuff
are allegations and he said/she said.

No charges
No arrests
Nothing

That fact you think that any type of punishment would get little to no
resistance is delusional.

Jaylen Brown and the PU went hardcore off that bullshit that Silver was trying to
put Kyrie through…you think they would sit back and allow Jah to be suspended
for one year…or anything excessive?





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81. "He did this to himself..."
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..No one can save Ja from his own behavior.

Again: This young man admitted he was wrong on national tv, vowing to never put himself in that position again. He literally went back on his word. What argument could you possibly mount for someone who clearly doesn't understand what's at stake?

Being young & ignorant barely gets young Black athletes a pass and he already used his less than 3 months ago.

You might not want to admit it. Hell, Ja might not want to admit it, but he has a problem. The league is clearly planning to give him plenty of time to deal with that issue away from the game. He won't win sympathy from many of his peers, the players union, etc. I don't see him winning any appeal.

I'm not saying that I think he deserves to sit for a year, but I wouldn't be surprised if that happens.

*Nothing personal, but its kinda wild that you expect more out of the youth in Chi, but make excuses for Ja. Make it make sense.



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62. "In addition to the punishment"
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it's possible Silver and the NBA office will sully Ja Morant's name by going into some small amount of detail about the other infractions the league office has discovered.

With all that factored in, makes perfect since to delay suspending him.

I wonder how much of a fight either the Player's unions and the Grizzlies will put up to challenge the length of the suspension.

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76. "wouldnt that be Ja sullying his own name?"
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60. "Wow...hadn't thought about this guy in a sec...Frank Vogel to Phoenix "
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61. "That's not the best job to have"
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given the high title expectations it appears that team has and how top heavy and imbalanced that roster is.

I have a feeling he's gonna be Fall Guy Vogel again just like he was for the Lakers, but perhaps the Phoenix front office has plans to make that roster get some depth somehow.

Given how much of a Brinks truck Monty Williams got with his signing, I wonder what Vogel's contract looks like; especially the number of years he Phoenix agreed to signed him for.

**edit**

So in theory, that leaves Doc and Budenholzer as the available big name head coaches left for that Toronto Raptors spot, correct? To me knowledge, that's the only head coaching gig available right now. That's a fairly interesting spot as it appears that team is in a huge transition spot right now. Will be interesting who gets left out of getting a head coaching spot; I personally think both guys are slightly overrated, but at the same time, it does suck to be out of a job.

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64. "Massive L. Dude is so overrated. I think his assistants had more "
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to do with him winning than his ability to coach both sides of the ball.

No way would I take Vogel over Bud or Doc..

Smells fishy how he got the job.

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66. "Which assistants?"
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I know you're not gonna name the dude who guided a team with 2 superstars more-or-less in their prime out of the playoffs this year.

  

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70. "The same assistant who guided them to the WCF after winning "
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a chip as an assistant with the Lakers!.

Not his fault they let Brunson go and traded away 2 solid players, and
was left with a depleted squad

There is context.

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73. "Not his fault they missed the *play-in*?"
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Just to be clear -

Not the chip.
Not the finals.
Not the playoffs.
THE PLAY-IN.

While publicly washing his hands of everything going on lmao.

Nah, Luka, Kyrie and Kidd get to wear that *forever*. And they were actually trying up until the very last game, where they 180'd and tried to tank it. lol lol lol lol lol.

Wouldn't blame any team for never wanting that dude leading a squad. He's a clown. Seems like all of the other teams with vacancies agree.

  

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67. "What smells fishy? Honest question..."
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I don't give a shit about Vogel, or Phoenix, either for that matter...just genuinely curious. I'd never heard anything about them flirting with Vogel before Monty was fired or anything. Just seems like a team fired a coach and got another one.

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68. "It was fishy when he got the Laker job lol"
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69. "No it wasn't. They lowballed Lue. The end."
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77. "there were other options besides Vogel"
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78. "Name names. "
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And before you do…

He hasn’t been employed as a coach SINCE then. It’s either a league wide conspiracy or nobody fucks with him like that.

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80. "The current HC in Dallas who was Vogel’s assistant?"
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83. "The guy who hasn’t accomplished what Vogel had?"
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At that point Vogel had made 2 ECFs. Which is more than Kidd had or has done as a coach.

So that’s fishy why again?

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84. "The point is nobody was talking about Vogel, the Lakers wanted Kidd…"
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but were scared to give him the HC job because of off court concerns even though people like Luke Walton have had multiple HC jobs with off court concerns

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89. "Vogel hired Kidd for his staff. "
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He was the last assistant added.

Why are you pulling nonsense out of your ass?

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90. "I know you like random arguments but Kidd was a candidate for HC…"
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and there were reasons why they didn’t go with him right away if Dallas hadn’t stole him he would’ve most likely been Vogel’s successor and everyone knows that.

But back to the original point that there were other options besides Vogel his name was somewhat out of the blue.

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93. "Lol ok. "
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“There were reasons”

“Everybody knows that”

“Fishy”

Good argument!! 🫡

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71. "Vogel hasn’t been mentioned with anything, and now out of "
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nowhere he gets the job?

Fishy on some behind the scenes friendship/circle steez

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74. "They probably should’ve given you a heads up, to be fair"
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75. "lmao"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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79. "Hahahahhahah"
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63. "Dunno if that'll work out but Ayton should thrive."
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82. "I won't judge it on basketball, but that works for that town. "
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I think Booker ends up in Purple and Gold eventually.

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85. "Sam Cassell joining the Celtics' bench"
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Part of me can't help but wonder if anybody taking a seat on Mazz's bench is secretly hoping he gets canned and they can snag the job mid-season.


But Bravo drama aside, I think it's smart to surround him with older guys with way more experience than him, especially with ego management if they want to run this roster back once more time.


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99. "Praise God"
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I do think this move leaves no wiggle room for Joe. Either he has the team playing great during the first half of the season or he's gone before the all star game.

  

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86. "Chams say Kyrie reached out to Bron..."
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to get him to come to Dallas.

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87. "Bron, Kyrie and Luka? lol, the ball would have no air."
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88. "A+ level subject/message misdirect LMAO…"
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91. "Kryie must be bored."
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94. "I can't believe how much the nets acquiesced to this guy (& KD)"
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I cannot wait until he pulls some bullshit in Dallas.

Does Cuban have the guts to put his foot down immediately...ehh Idk he seems to fall in love with "stars"

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95. "The Mavericks gave up three picks"
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in addition to current players to get Kyrie. It's not so much about them acquiescing to Kyrie because he's being a diva; they overcommitted in the short term and ending up screwing themselves in terms of long term freedom, hence them pleading and hoping Kyrie will resign.

It would hurt way too much for Kyrie just up a sign elsewhere, which he's completely free to do.

In this scenario, out of everyone involved, it's Dallas that's in the wrong, not Kyrie.

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96. "Brooklyn should have traded him when he said no to the vax"
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they would have got way more in return, and if that means KD going then so be it, it would have been a big return for that too.

but they let this shit play on and on and on.....

>in addition to current players to get Kyrie. It's not so much
>about them acquiescing to Kyrie because he's being a diva;
>they overcommitted in the short term and ending up screwing
>themselves in terms of long term freedom, hence them pleading
>and hoping Kyrie will resign.
>
>It would hurt way too much for Kyrie just up a sign elsewhere,
>which he's completely free to do.
>
>In this scenario, out of everyone involved, it's Dallas that's
>in the wrong, not Kyrie.

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97. "mark needs to give kyrie a membership to that cheap drugs website."
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92. "its from The Athletic sooo..."
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98. "Knicks Twitter finally coming around to the idea that we can get "
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a better coach. Of course, the default is, "SPO HAS ONE YEAR ON HIS CONTRACT, WE CAN SIGN HIM FOR $50 MILLION A YEAR"

I honestly feel if he does walk, it will be for the Lakers. And Devin Booker who I feel would be a great Laker.

We should see if Ty Lue wants to come to NY.

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100. "why would he leave Miami ?"
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dude is 52 and looks like he's 40. he should stay in miami forever (especially with riles in charge)

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101. "basically lol"
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102. "He’s a god in Miami. "
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He’s Pat Riley’s heir apparent. He should never leave.

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103. "Knick fans think everyone wants to go there lol"
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They thought they were getting kd and Kyrie too

Arison > Dolan

Riley > Rose



>dude is 52 and looks like he's 40. he should stay in miami
>forever (especially with riles in charge)

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106. "I don't suppose that he would either."
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110. "And he loves to take walks on the beach at sunrise...with players."
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I know specifically this was a big part of the Justise Winslow-related pieces earlier this year but it sounds like it's one of his favorite ways to connect with players, just go watch the sunrise on South Beach


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104. "LMAO"
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https://twitter.com/legionhoops/status/1666165432942989312?s=46&t=G8VpH-PD22nzSUjBdHMf0A

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105. "Who’s to say it wasn’t? "
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No proof but a 1 second clip on social media. If silver tries to hit him with
a suspension that’s tremendously long, bring out the lawyers….and take it to court
or arbitration.

He was already punished for previous indiscretions, so this new issue is based on an
online video of him and friends. No one else witnessed it.

He totally should push that.

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112. "An online video of him doing the thing he said he’d never do again"
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>He was already punished for previous indiscretions, so this
>new issue is based on an
>online video of him and friends. No one else witnessed it.
>
>He totally should push that.

You seem to think he has some leverage in this situation that he really doesn’t.
And claiming it’s a toy gun weeks later is not gonna help his case lol.

  

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113. "Some things don’t even deserve a reply. You know.."
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>
>>He was already punished for previous indiscretions, so this
>>new issue is based on an
>>online video of him and friends. No one else witnessed it.
>>
>>He totally should push that.
>
>You seem to think he has some leverage in this situation that
>he really doesn’t.
>And claiming it’s a toy gun weeks later is not gonna help
>his case lol.
>

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143. "I know"
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I take the bait sometimes when I’m bored lol

  

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115. "what kind of idiot rolls around with a toy gun anyway"
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what are you gonna do when you need a real gun? yell "pow pow" as you point at them?

it reminds me of that scene in SNATCH where they pull out their replicas and the guy just laughs

I want to know who's idea that excuse was, bc if it's his attorney or PR guy, yea...time to go




>
>>He was already punished for previous indiscretions, so this
>>new issue is based on an
>>online video of him and friends. No one else witnessed it.
>>
>>He totally should push that.
>
>You seem to think he has some leverage in this situation that
>he really doesn’t.
>And claiming it’s a toy gun weeks later is not gonna help
>his case lol.
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117. "It’s not what you know. It’s what you can prove."
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All it takes is any kind of doubt.

The NBA can’t prove that it wasn’t or that it was real. The only people who
were there were him and his friend.

We have no idea where he was, what state he was in, when it actually happened,
or if the gun was real or not. It’s a 1-5 second live clip.

And then there is the legal aspect of it.. Tenn is a permitless carry state
for anyone 18 years old or older, so what rules did he break if he actually
did have a real gun?

He wasn’t in or on any NBA facility and was in or on his own property and on his own
personal time.

Is there any visible language or stipulation in the CBA or any policy where
a player can’t be seen with a gun on his personal time and on his property(
as long as he is in a state that allows it)?

That wouldn’t make any sense since Tenn is a state where you can openly
carry a gun.

There are tons of legal wiggle room with that.

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118. "it doesn't matter if it was a toy or not."
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and the NBA doesn't have to prove it.

it's the perception, and the fact that they already told him "stop going on social media showing off guns."

so, they're gonna do what they want, which is announce the suspension they see fit, and then the union can decide if they wanna help Ja fight it.

  

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134. "But is there any LEGAL LANGUAGE that he can’t show off guns"
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in the CBA or Code of conduct?…considering it’s legal to open and carry in his
state, and would that not go against his second amendment rights?

Sure, don’t bring guns into a NBA facility or a place where the NBA does business.
That‘s their property. So they can have rules for that. Just like stores in legal and carry
states put up signs stating that they don’t allow guns in their store.

But can they really tell Ja that he can’t showcase a gun on his own time and property
in a state where it is legal? That’s a legal matter all day long.

I don’t think you understand the conflict here.

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135. "no. i understand the conflict. it doesn't matter."
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the nba will do what they are gonna do.

the ONLY question at this point is how the player's union will handle it.

  

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140. "There doesn’t have to be. "
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And no, this isn’t a legal matter.

You’re wrong about this and Silver’s going to prove it.

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119. "This isn’t a legal issue, and it’s not a court of law."
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>
>And then there is the legal aspect of it.. Tenn is a
>permitless carry state
>for anyone 18 years old or older, so what rules did he break
>if he actually
>did have a real gun?

This doesn’t matter. It’s not a legal issue.

>He wasn’t in or on any NBA facility and was in or on his own
>property and on his own
>personal time.

Were it not on video, this would be a valid point.

>Is there any visible language or stipulation in the CBA or any
>policy where
>a player can’t be seen with a gun on his personal time and
>on his property(
>as long as he is in a state that allows it)?

This doesn’t matter at all. Moreover, there likely is some level of a morality clause/conduct detrimental to the league/etc language in there.

This would only matter if there were actual language in the CBA that directly addresses it- and if it doesn’t, it’s fair game, particularly when it rubs up against any morality/conduct clause.

He will be suspended, and it will stick.
Everything you just said will be moot.

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142. "Is Adam Silver a judge? Is Ja on trial? I must have missed that."
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This has nothing to do with what can be legally proven, what reasonable doubt exists, or what laws are in place wherever he is. Real gun, toy gun, unloaded gun, legal gun, illegal gun. That doesn’t really matter either.

In Silver’s eyes: he made the league look bad, promised he’d never do the thing that made them look bad, then did it again shortly after. You can argue whether Silver is being too hard or just inconsistent (when the suspension is announced, we’re not even discussing something tangible yet), but acting like this is a trial and the NBA has to meet a certain burden of proof than they’ve never had to before when doling out punishment? Lol, why waste your time? What are you even arguing?

  

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107. "the breakfast club is the only place ive seen report that."
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theyve been reporting a lot of inaccurate bullshit out of there lately.

at least when angela yee was there...they used to reference pretty credible sources/outlets for the rumor report. now i honestly think they just get info off their twitter feed.

  

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109. "and last time it was laser pointers..."
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111. "Right, I forgot about that. "
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<---
Fuck a sig, my presence is enough.

  

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108. "i guess harden to houston was really just a leverage play after all?"
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https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1666196916525502469

  

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114. "He should have been an all star this year, he deserves his bag"
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yea he didnt play well vs boston but neither did Embid. I dont even think they wanted to play for Doc.

and I honestly think Philly's supporting cast isn't that good. A healthy Giannis/Bucks team would have beat them



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116. "Yeah, as I said in Reply 8, it doesn't make sense."
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Unless his only priority is "I like Houston, I like the strip clubs there, that's where I wanna be." Which would be a totally fair reason!

But Philly will have to offer him whatever he wants money-wise, and he's just in a miles better position to win in Philly than in Houston, obviously. And I struggle to think a future HOF player picks one team over the other purely for nostalgia over the combo of money and team quality, lol.

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120. "Zion name having a rough week in these streets lol"
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Knocked up a 30 yo CPN scamming, camsoda thot
Got another bangbros pornstar on his head

Breh a hardcore coomer lol

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121. "that’s his personal business..FOH"
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Come with some real BB stuff…like when will he be on the court.

Couldn’t care less about who he is banging.

Leave that TMZ ish at TMZ

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123. "Shit this probably why he can’t get on the court"
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Hammys blown up from messing with them BBLs

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124. "lmao"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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125. "yo. "
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126. "DNP - reverse cowgirl "
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>Hammys blown up from messing with them BBLs

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127. "i'm done."
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128. "lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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150. "******TEARS*******"
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159. "LOL"
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137. "lmao"
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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138. "if he was playing it wouldn’t be news"
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but all this time off..

no wonder he can’t get healthy

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122. "i was honestly suprised he was with a black chick."
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a hood black chick at that.

  

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130. "Twitter jokes and shame are one thing"
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but he should be concerned with getting hit up for some hefty child support payments if what I read is accurate and not some cat-fishing troll nonsense.

Zion finna learn some hard life lessons this off-season it seems.

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131. "btw shaq about to be on that zion monthly payment plan."
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his old ass getting caught up with the final level finesse boss.

https://twitter.com/DaCultureVault/status/1666498483917058049

  

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136. "Shaq is smarter than people give him credit for"
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________________________________________
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139. "The cocktail dress & Jeans and sunday afternoon pull over"
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LMAO

  

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141. "so funny when you see a really rich dude out w/ a woman sometimes. "
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she dressed to the nines, hair did nails did everything did.

he in jeans and a hoodie.

  

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132. "Suns are releasing CP3."
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Big news.

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133. "Suns hit CP3 with the long kiss goodnight....waived"
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144. "shams and woj reporting is contradicting that chris haynes story."
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1666578187461984258

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1666583127911694336

theyre claiming a decision hasnt been made and the discussions involved cp3 on a mutual resolution.


btw here was the original chris haynes tweet that claimed cp3 was notified that he was being waived.
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1666554716380188673

haynes is a klutch guy. i wonder if bron wants cp3 on the lakers now that it looks like kyrie wont be going there.

  

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145. "Haynes lives for the messiness"
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I’m not surprised.

I bet the Suns WANT to dump him, but it makes sense they’d be open to other options because, at least in the regular season, they can’t currently claim no Paul is better than a lot of Paul. And I don’t think PG is a particularly rich trade market right now - if you want anybody, it’s the Grizz kid, and they clearly aren’t in the mood to flip him given, y’know.

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146. "Damn...thought it was a done deal"
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147. ""Mutual resolution" means he's gone from the team tho"
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Whether or not he's waived or they buy him out, that's likely it for Paul on the Suns.

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148. "the haynes tweet was either accurate or it wasnt."
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the language was specific and definitive.

  

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149. "Well, it was inaccurate in one sense:"
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Calling him "one of the top free agents this off-season" is a big stretch. Nobody getting into a serious bidding war over a 38-year-old, frequently injured Chris Paul.

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153. "Everything is being rebooted these days. "
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Even the CP3 to the Lakers storylines.

SMH.

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160. "12 years later? no thanks..."
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>Even the CP3 to the Lakers storylines.
>
>SMH.

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154. "Man, that window was narrow "
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Only thing that gives them hope is Bookee

  

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151. "nm."
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152. "adam silver got jokes."
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https://twitter.com/big_business_/status/1666878626166341657

  

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155. "LMAO he wrong for that"
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156. "Yeaaaaah Ja is suspended suspended "
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157. "LOL"
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158. "btw he sure does talk about ja a lot"
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for someone who doesnt want ja to overshadow the nba finals.

  

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"He sure gets asked about it a lot"


  

          

It’s not like he’s on some “OH BY THE WAY..” shit with it

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162. "he made that ja joke voluntarily."
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161. "."
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163. "nba media starting to push the cp3 in golden state narrative."
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imagine watching the warriors this season and deciding what they need is another aging veteran who you cant expect to be on the court come playoff time.

  

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164. "I can’t see it"
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165. "Despite all the talk about money and chemistry re: GSW"
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In a world where a lot of goofy contract arrangements aren't gonna fly a year from now


I could see them bringing CP3 on and having him run the practice squad 'til March.


To be clear I don't think that will happen but if I were trying to put my stamp on this team post-Myers at the obvious end of an era that'd be nearly impossible to recreate...


CP3 running the practice squad with a bunch of dudes who've been defined by their carelessness as much as their success might be exactly how I want to spend Lacob's money. Especially if I can figure out the Melo backdoor special of getting him in rooms with money managers and VCs.


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166. "RE: nba media speculating on ideas that will drive clicks and views"
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News at 11!

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167. "Zero chance cp3 ego could take riding Steph coattails "
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168. "exactly"
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169. "Paul literally booted Steph out of those State Farm Commercials..."
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...once it was became apparent that Steph was as good/getting better than him. No way he decides to back-up Steph now.

And no way the Warriors shed younger players to clear salary space to sign him.

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177. "Anyone paying Paul more than $1 for basketball is insane. "
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Dude cost the Suns literal victories with his seasonal disappearing act in the playoffs.

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170. "Fred Van Vleet opting out, will be UFA in July."
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171. "does anybody care about the Toronto coach or know who he is?"
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172. "Givony reporting GSW is looking to deal Kuminga for a high draft pick."
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Makes sense imo. They have one more season after the coming one to exercise the club option, and then Kuminga enters restricted free agency. Since they're unquestionably in win now mode, and Kuminga is still all future potential but a current net negative on the floor for the most part, they probably think getting a top 10 pick at a rookie scale contract is better value than having to pay Kuminga increasingly high amounts going forward.

Considering the strength of this class, I'm inclined to agree. Like, Taylor Hendricks would be a better player next season than Kuminga, I'm fairly confident-- especially for the Warriors. Maybe even someone like Gradey Dick, someone who can play the Christian Braun role from Day 1 in all likelihood.

I'm no salary-cap-ologist... but Poole and Wiggins combining to make 53 mil next season, 57 mil in 24/25, and nearly 62 mil in 25/26 feels like it's going to force GSW to have to make some decisions purely for money reasons in the coming year or two. (Unless they can deal Poole somehow.)

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178. "If they’re in win now mode I can’t see them going after another…"
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young player

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179. "Why not? Plenty of them in this draft."
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The problem with the Warriors' strategy wasn't drafting young players-- it was drafting OAD players. You know what players were drafted right after Kuminga that were older than Kuminga? Franz Wagner, Davion Mitchell, Chris Duarte. Who was drafted right after one-and-done Moses Moody? Corey Kispert and Trey Murphy. All but Kispert made an immediate impact year 1, and Kispert's a 42+% 3-point threat by year 2. They all would've played very real minutes for GSW this year.

And, frankly, the Warriors *need* to use rookie-scale deals on players that can help fill out their bench immediately, because outside of the mid-level exception, any deal they make will be either rookie deals or veteran minimum contracts unless they make a serious trade to free up money.

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173. "Wiz and Beal's reps discussing trade destinations"
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174. "I wonder if he's going to put Boston on his list"
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Celtics have a lot of assets outside of their core stars they could trade for him but the question is do the Celtics want to have 3 guys on supermax deals in 2 years.

  

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175. "man, I wanna see yall with Gallo healthy for a full season"
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176. "Honestly cannot believe he has a no trade clause"
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185. "Yeah I don't get why the Wiz did that"
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It doesn't really benefit them in any way. It stops a Melo to the Knicks or KD to the Suns type deals from happening where the trading team gets gutted.

  

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180. "when does the Ja suspension drop? Day after parade or we gotta"
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wait for Jokic to get back home?

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181. "Perk just said he'd like to see Ja in Miami...."
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lol, dude just be saying stuff.

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183. "does anyone really care about his opinion. dude just be talking to talk"
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i don't know how or why someone wanted to give him a voice.

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182. "did anybody else get an email from Adam Sliver?"
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Dear (ThaTruth),

I hope you enjoyed this NBA season – one of the most competitive and unpredictable seasons in the history of our league. And none of it would have been possible without passionate and dedicated fans like you.



Fortunately for basketball fans everywhere, there is so much to look forward to this summer with the NBA Draft and NBA Summer League around the corner and the WNBA season in full swing. Stay up to date on the latest league news with the NBA and WNBA Apps.



On behalf of the NBA and our teams and players, thank you for all your support.



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184. "nah i'm 4 email accounts passed the one i created an nba.com account "
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with

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"yep"


  

          

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188. "yep"
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189. "Yep"
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186. "Nuggets had their parade today; when's that Ja suspension dropping?"
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Imagine if Adam Silver drops the suspension on Juneteenth?

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187. "Dunleavy Jr to be the new Warriors GM"
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190. "MJ selling his majority stake in the Hornets"
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https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2023/06/16/michael-jordan-hornets-sale-gabe-plotkin-rick-schnall-nba-fans-plenty-to-say

  

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191. "Ja Morant Suspended for 25 games."
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1669719187198038017

Anything over 20 and and under 40 felt right to me, so this lands there.

  

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192. "reasonable "
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193. "if you see my edit, agreed."
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194. "25 piece spicy all flats!"
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195. "LOL"
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197. "fried hard!"
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196. "if Memphis start the season like 23-2, I'm cookin'"
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198. "lmao"
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199. "hahaha."
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i mean, based on what they did last year without him, you'd think they'd at least be a handful of games over .500.

no dillon brooks though (*chuckles*).

  

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221. "LOL"
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200. "Would be wild if he still manages to make the All Star game next year."
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Even if he has gaudy stats and Memphis makes the playoffs, he'll still miss too many games to make one of the All-NBA teams, correct?

Main reason I'm asking is to check to see badly this 25 game suspension will mess with his paper; I'm assuming All-Star and/or All-NBA nods are added incentives in his contract.

For the record, I think dude got off quite light, given that Silver seemed to infer he had added evidence outside of that second social media posting.

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201. "pretty sure if he got voted in, nba would fudge that shit"
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202. "Good. And I don’t want every NBA lead story being about him. "
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203. "Objectively, probably where it should be."
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Personally... I would have been happy with more this time around. Gun violence is a big problem. Gun safety is a big problem. People with enormous platforms generally acting like idiots with guns is a big, big problem.

But you can't just hand-wave away things like precedent (or maybe lack thereof, in this case) and who knows if dropping the hammer on him too hard puts us in martyr territory on this one.

If/when this happens again, that's when he sits a full year.

  

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204. "agreed. i thought he would get more but this seems fair."
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im interested in seeing what this 'additional information' is tho.

  

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205. "The Apology:"
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1669726645224189958?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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206. "sounds good and hope it's sincere."
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i mean, i'll never be a fan of the guy so it doesn't matter so much to me.

the biggest thing to me is, you're not a gangster, so stop acting like one. it's just completely unnecessary.

  

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209. "That apology to his sponsors was a nice touch."
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And I'm not being sarcastic or snarky; at least he's being up front and honest about his fear of losing his Nike/Powerade/what ever other sponsorship deals he has or had before these suspensions.

This summer and off-season will be an interesting one for him for sure.

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211. "i thought that too."
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237. "feels like a copy and paste of his last apology"
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it doesn't really mean anything w/o action at this point.

Also reads like it was written by a PR person - which it has to be, i guess. I'd respect a statement more if it was like 'listen, that was dumb as shit, i don't know why i did it, i was just being dumb and need to work some people to get my shit together'. I know that would never happen, but something less honest and less polished.

I'm not really mad at Ja on a personal level or anything, and i'm also not mad at the suspension one way or another. Mostly, I just want him to stop doing dumb shit, so we can go back to focusing on his game, which is really unique and fun to watch.

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222. "This seems reasonable."
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Silver was being quite dramatic about it, honestly. Would it have been an issue during the finals? Probably. But it was already.

Hopefully he takes this seriously. He's way too damn talented to blow it.

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207. "After all the shit Silver was talking, I was expecting "Wrath of God!""
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This is reasonable, but it isn't so bad that its announcement would have disrupted the finals.

And, of course, it puts Morant back on TV by Christmas, which is when most people start paying attention to the NBA.

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210. "I have a feeling"
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the league office and the Player's Association brokered a deal behind the scenes to lay down a 'fair' suspension.

Time will tell of course if Morant will actually learn his lesson.

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212. "technically he didn't break any laws, didn't point a gun at anyone..."
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or have gun in a team facility.

The league could only do so much.

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220. "Right. Plus it DID disrupt the finals, ha."
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223. "they literally could have said nothing. If asked, the answer could be"
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the league is wrapping up its investigation and we'll have an announcement in the coming weeks.

AFter the announcement, if they wanna say they didn't wanna distract from the finals, then fine.

Unless there was some other goal in handling this way, i'm often amazed and how poorly organizations handle things publicly.

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225. "100%. I was truly thinking this would be WAY worse. "
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At least 15 games worse.

But 25 games? Cmon. Just pretend like there hasn’t yet been a decision made and keep it moving. It ended up taking on a life of its own because of Silver.

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226. "why? he's just dumb and has dumb friends he's not a criminal..."
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>At least 15 games worse.
>
>But 25 games? Cmon. Just pretend like there hasn’t yet been
>a decision made and keep it moving. It ended up taking on a
>life of its own because of Silver.

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227. "Only because of what Silver said."
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229. "legally I don't think Silver could've done more because like I said..."
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Ja technically didn't commit a crime that's what took the league so long in making a decision and comptemplating the NBAPA pushback Silver was just popping shit.

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230. "Honest question: Does the NBA have one of those "for the good of..."
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...the league" clauses in the CB agreement like the NFL? I always just figure that all leagues do, just in case the commissioner can "make an example" out of player or players when he wants to.

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234. "I don’t think so…"
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>...the league" clauses in the CB agreement like the NFL? I
>always just figure that all leagues do, just in case the
>commissioner can "make an example" out of player or players
>when he wants to.

and like I said Ja technically broke no laws.

Similar is the Udoka thing with Boston they didn’t fire him outright initially just suspended because legally he did nothing wrong

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236. "Probably helps that the NBA's PA is a lot stronger than the NFL's"
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In the NFL, Goodell was suspending players for breaking NCAA rules, and met with little resistance since the league neutered the union years ago.

I remember the NBAPA did fight with the league over Malice in the Palace and Stern's self-proclaimed unilateral decisions to suspend everyone, and they ultimately had to back down. But that was players running into the stands and knocking out paying customers, whereas in this case, like you've said, technically nothing illegal happened.

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239. "RE: Probably helps that the NBA's PA is a lot stronger than the NFL's"
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>In the NFL, Goodell was suspending players for breaking NCAA
>rules, and met with little resistance since the league
>neutered the union years ago.
>
>I remember the NBAPA did fight with the league over Malice in
>the Palace and Stern's self-proclaimed unilateral decisions to
>suspend everyone, and they ultimately had to back down. But
>that was players running into the stands and knocking out
>paying customers, whereas in this case, like you've said,
>technically nothing illegal happened.

Exactly that was a completely different situation, actually assault charges could’ve been filed and I think the guy Artest hit did file a civil case.

Ja just held up a gun on social media not pointing it at or threatening anyone

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231. "players association makes alot of noise but when have they ever"
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successfully done anything after a suspension? at best, the player might get their money...but they still miss games...which is still a W for the LEague.

has a suspension ever been reduced?

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233. "This is a very unique situation, technically Ja did nothing wrong…"
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he didn’t shoot anybody, yes holding a firearm on social is a bad look but he didn’t threaten anyone and Tennessee is a open carry state. If he had done the same think in nyc it would’ve been totally different

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299. "What's that got to do with the players association being able to"
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get his suspension reduced?

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407. "Nah he’s a face of the league"
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That extra fame and money comes with extra responsibility and scrutiny.

“Did he break the law?” is fine for the average NFL player that nobody recognizes but Ja out there inviting someone to test him and the NBA is supposed to just sit back and hope nothing happens to the cornerstone of one of their franchises and potentially the league?

Nah that money and fame comes with strings attached.

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238. "'legally' is kind of a hard word to pin down in this case. "
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like waving the gun in his last video was not illegal. I get that.
However, Ja is turning into a habitual line stepper, so Silver put his foot down. If we were to base his suspension on this latest incident, I don't think there would have been a suspension at all... HOWEVER, Ja had a list of priors the included either video evidence of some illegal shit, or some decent circumstantial evidence of some other illegal shit.

Off the top:
- Drinking and waving a fire arm in a strip club (pretty sure that's illegal even in VIP)
-Scrapping w/a mall employee over some drama w/your mom (we don't really know the specifics, but potential illegalities there)
-Potential assault on someone who you were hooping with at your house, where a gun was involved. (again, not 100% sure there was a crime here)
- Your friends or your people pointing a laser at an opposing teams van. No evidence that it was a gun, but seemed like the message they were sending

I'm no CBA expert, so it's whatevs to me tbh. I want Ja to get back to hooping. 25 games for this incident given his priors seems kinda fair, especially because he made Silver look like a pussy after that last incident.

All I really know is Ja is lucky he doesn't play in the David Stern era. Stern would have murdered his dogs, set one of his cars on fire, and then told Ja he needed to step away to play minor league baseball and 'find his passion' for 6 months. Silver seems to be willing to meet him halfway, at least.

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240. "RE: 'legally' is kind of a hard word to pin down in this case. "
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>like waving the gun in his last video was not illegal. I get
>that.
>However, Ja is turning into a habitual line stepper, so Silver
>put his foot down. If we were to base his suspension on this
>latest incident, I don't think there would have been a
>suspension at all... HOWEVER, Ja had a list of priors the
>included either video evidence of some illegal shit, or some
>decent circumstantial evidence of some other illegal shit.
>
>Off the top:
>- Drinking and waving a fire arm in a strip club (pretty sure
>that's illegal even in VIP)
>-Scrapping w/a mall employee over some drama w/your mom (we
>don't really know the specifics, but potential illegalities
>there)
>-Potential assault on someone who you were hooping with at
>your house, where a gun was involved. (again, not 100% sure
>there was a crime here)
>- Your friends or your people pointing a laser at an opposing
>teams van. No evidence that it was a gun, but seemed like the
>message they were sending
>
>I'm no CBA expert, so it's whatevs to me tbh. I want Ja to get
>back to hooping. 25 games for this incident given his priors
>seems kinda fair, especially because he made Silver look like
>a pussy after that last incident.
>
>All I really know is Ja is lucky he doesn't play in the David
>Stern era. Stern would have murdered his dogs, set one of his
>cars on fire, and then told Ja he needed to step away to play
>minor league baseball and 'find his passion' for 6 months.
>Silver seems to be willing to meet him halfway, at least.
>

There was only potential legal trouble in the first incident in Denver where the gun laws are different and there were questions about whether or not he took the gun on the team plain.

All that other stuff is speculative and unproven this no charges filed.

Stern couldn’t have done crap either.

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241. "RE: 'legally' is kind of a hard word to pin down in this case. "
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>All that other stuff is speculative and unproven this no
>charges filed.

Exactly why he's looking at a suspension from his job (which may or may not be viable based on the current CBA) and not looking at jail time.

Complaining about officials isn't illegal, but it can get you fined and/or suspended by the NBA.

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228. "Could have been worse, not should have been worse"
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Like, I don't think anyone would have been ***surprised*** if the suspension was 40 games. Especially with all the shit that Silver was talking. It might not have been the right thing to do, but envisioning a world where Silver puts the hammer down in hopes of making an example out of Morant wasn't far-fetched.

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208. "Mike Dunleavy, Jr. named Warriors GM"
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Not a surprise, considering he's been in the org for years and has been assistant GM since like 22017/2018. They weren't going to bring in someone from outside the organization, it was too early for Livingston, and it's a better choice than one of the Lacob kids.

I will say that overall, I was surprised to find out years ago that Dunleavy Jr. was back in the front office, considering how unspectacular and disappointing his career as a Warrior was. Trading him and Troy Murphy for Jax and Harrington basically turned the season around during the "We Believe!" year. But apparently he's good in this role. Let's see how he does this off-season.

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213. "NBPA unhappy with Ja's suspension. Here we go!"
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214. "Guess my theory in post 210 was dead wrong."
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Morant and/or his handlers already posted an apology, so I wonder how hard the Player's Association will fight to reduce the suspension since it appears Morant showed some level of contrition.

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215. "Unions gonna union."
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216. "NGL, I've never heard that NBPA Exec Director's name..."
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in my entire life. I legit had to look her up. I guess I was conflating CJ McCollum's president role with being the person who is out front. Feels like Chris Paul used to be out there, a lot.

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218. "There’s always a player president and an executive director who is…"
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usually an attorney. Previously it was Michelle Roberts. They usually do the main negotiating behind the scenes while the player is out front.

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219. "OOOOKAY! Michelle Roberts' name helps me understand. Thanks"
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235. "just like NFLPA exec dir DeMaurice you rarely hear about until..."
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a labor negotiation or when Jon Gruden made a racial remark about him the president is usually some random player because the stars don't care because of how little power that union has in comparison to the NBAPA

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224. "you really only hear their names when its contract negotiation time"
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232. "Expressed his remorse. LMFAO"
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242. "Reports...Suns and Heat in serious talks with Wiz for Beal"
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243. "chris haynes: suns could get beal with chris paul and landry shamet."
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https://twitter.com/LegionHoops/status/1670154259625807872

i dont know how credible that is because its haynes lol. its funny hes reporting chris paul trade scenarios after just reporting the suns had already decided to waive him.

that seems like a really low price for someone on a supermax.

  

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244. "david aldridge is saying chris paul and ayton for beal."
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that sounds a lil more realistic but i guess we will see.

  

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246. "I’m seeing Aston not part of the deal"
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245. "Woj Bomb: Sources: Suns finalizing trade for Wizards' Bradley Beal"
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The Washington Wizards are finalizing a trade to send three-time All-Star guard Bradley Beal to the Phoenix Suns for a package expected to include Chris Paul, Landry Shamet, several second-round picks and picks swap, sources told ESPN on Sunday.

The deal could take a few days for the full framework to be completed, but Beal is on his way to the Suns to form a new Big 3 with Devin Booker and Kevin Durant, sources said.

Beal's agent Mark Bartelstein of Priority Sports confirmed to ESPN that a framework is in place that will land Beal with the Suns.

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247. "Godfather Riley bout to go so fucking hard for Dame"
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248. "is it safe to assume "
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Ayton is gone now?
I would think they would need to trade hum for - a point guard, bench depth and salary relief

4 max contracts on one team seems highly unlikely

  

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249. "Got to be, right? "
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251. "The 5th starter only needs to be a 3&D…"
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>Ayton is gone now?
>I would think they would need to trade hum for - a point
>guard, bench depth and salary relief
>
>4 max contracts on one team seems highly unlikely

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255. "If the Suns do indeed trade for Beal"
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they're going to need depth, salary cap relief because of Ayton's contract, and some semblance of draft picks, no?

The Suns gave up four picks for Durant and now they're going to give up two for Beal? That draft pick cupboard is going to be might bare.

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254. "If the Heat get Dame and someone like Azibuikwe from UTAH...."
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sheeeeeit, its gonna be rough in the East

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252. "AND GOT RID OF CHRIS PAUL. Leeeeeeeets go!"
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253. "looks like haynes redeemed himself. wild times."
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256. "that hot seat for **Frank** Vogel finna be on full blast status"
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starting on game one.

**radio edit**

thanks for the correction, Cyren

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258. "Frank Vogel..."
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..and yes, the Suns will be in "all or nothing" mode if this trade is finalized.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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260. "This will blow up in the Suns face big time......"
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What an awful trade for Phoenix. You can say what you want about getting anything for Paul at this point.....but man this has all the makings of a disaster for Phoenix.

They had all that great depth before they threw it all at Durant and now they are trading the one player that really made this all work for Phoenix in Paul. On top of that you fire Monty and bring in a defensive coach in Vogel but then go trade for a guy in Beal who is a terrible defender. Plus Beal's contact is ABSURD. I know Paul kept getting injured but he is one of the few real PG's left in the league and was a huge reason why Phoenix came up the last few years. They needed to maximize a trade with him to bring in really good role players.....a plus defender, a steady PG and some DEPTH.

How in the hell is this supposed to work? They obviously have to move Ayton too. They have 4 max contacts now and no bench to speak of.

That new CBA can't kick in fast enough. This shit is so out of hand.

  

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265. "yeah I don't get it"
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What does Beal do that Booker doesn't do much better at this point?

losing Paul is a W, but I have to wonder if there was a deal out there that would have addressed the Suns actual needs (like depth)


KD, Booker, Beal is not going to be a good fit.

  

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270. "Most teams 3rd best perimeter defender can’t guard Beal one on one…"
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so I guess the plan will be create mismatches for everyone and free rim runs for Ayton and wide open 3’s for the 5 starter

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296. "gonna be hilarious when Denver drops them in 5 games …again "
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250. "Yoooo..."
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https://twitter.com/DrGuru_/status/1670534262406410241?t=4Nd7DstdM9xdlsNBdj0ERg&s=09

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261. "Damn"
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269. "They HAD to sign Beal to keep him from leaving 4 nothing then get that?"
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295. "I guess Silver is not even going to address the nepotism…"
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The Chris Paul to the Lakers trade was vetoed for less

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300. "What is there to address?"
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The nba owned the Pelicans.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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257. "Wizards have to blow up their roster and tank, right?"
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Both Porzingis and Kuzma are up to get re-signed after 23-24; Washington will have to move both guys to retool for picks at this point and tank away, correct? They can't expect to 'contend' if the best player they're getting back in that Beal trade is AARP Chris Paul.

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259. "Man it’s the Wizards, expect anything and nothing"
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262. "“contend”?"
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>Both Porzingis and Kuzma are up to get re-signed after 23-24;
>Washington will have to move both guys to retool for picks at
>this point and tank away, correct? They can't expect to
>'contend' if the best player they're getting back in that Beal
>trade is AARP Chris Paul.

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263. "Wiz fan here and I think I speak for most when I say "
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…this type of seismic move was long overdue

  

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266. "Fellow Wiz fan here and I concur"
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A full tilt rebuild instead of bandaids has been needed for some time.

It would be nice if they kept either Kuz or KP so that we have someone entertaining to watch, but I expect the new front office is gonna do trades for maximum flexibility at this point, cause that’s the only real move left.

Even before this trade, we didn’t have the assets to get a superstar in return, since Beal’s deal included the NTC. So we might as well stockpile some picks and youth/expiring contracts and develop what we have and draft well.

For the record I would have preferred that we traded w/Miami cause at least they had some first rounders to spare, but: Dat ‘nepotism!
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279. "Wiz going all in on a full OKC style reboot taking back expiring..."
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contracts and draft picks

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264. "what would be the difference?"
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297. "It would serve the Wizard's best interests"
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to get the best pieces possible (more than likely expiring contracts and as many draft picks as possible) for Kuzma and Porzingis in the long term since it appears the franchise isn't going to sniff and success in the short term. The draft picks should be of the utmost importance since the Beal trade didn't result in the best return in terms of picks.

In addition, it's entirely possible Kumza and/or Porzingis could be above average complimentary pieces on the right team. Will that team contend as result of them getting added on? I'm not willing to make that wager as I'm not the biggest fan of either dude, but things could get a lot more interesting compared to them languishing on the moribund Wizards.

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267. "I’ll guess that no trade clause is gonna go away on the next CBA"
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That aside - I truly don’t think those pieces fit and unless they can trade Ayton for some depth I just don’t see it working at all.

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268. "I agree with every word you said..."
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but, one thing is for sure...when it's working, it's gonna be WORKING. Teams will need 3 Tony Allens to defend these cats.

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272. "How are they going to defend anyone "
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275. "oh, they aren't. LOL...."
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when I say "it" will be working...I only mean that offense.

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273. "people thought that about BK but they could rarely get all 3 guys..."
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on the court together

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274. "people thought that about BK but they could rarely get all 3 guys..."
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on the court together for various reasons

>but, one thing is for sure...when it's working, it's gonna be
>WORKING. Teams will need 3 Tony Allens to defend these cats.

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276. "Beal’s fragile , physically and I think mentally "
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Godspeed to them. They’ll score so many points in January.

  

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280. "definitely not fragile mentally, being a 3rd option not having to carry...."
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an entire franchise may help him and overall it may help when one of the big 3 is out they'll still have chance with a big 2

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271. "It doesn’t need to be in the CBA. Teams just need to stop giving them ..."
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I agree to the end that owners have a habit of wanting to create rules that exist to save them from their own shitty managerial decisions, so perhaps they try to use this to negotiate a rule prohibiting no trade clauses.

I still have a hard time seeing that actually making it through to the final contract though.

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277. "Yeah I'm holding off until they move Ayton"
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Terrible time for them to *have* to do it given the contract and recent performances but you have to think they can get a little depth for him.

Otherwise, as it stands, this could very well be the least formidable "Big 3" style roster that has ever assembled.

  

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278. "in take it for what's it's worth news: Zion won't be a Pelican by Thursd..."
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this is per Bill Simmons via a "reliable source."

https://twitter.com/TheMindOfJDubb/status/1670607265374654468

  

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285. "I just listened to a pod this weekend..."
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that said almost the same and speculated a possible Dame and CJ reunion in NOLA.

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281. "Draymond opting for free agency."
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https://twitter.com/espn/status/1670827555643879425

  

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283. "I think GS works out a deal to keep him"
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284. "i think so too."
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unless EVERYTHING Dray said was bullshit.

to me the actual question here is if he and GS try to work out some sort of team friendly situation where they can actually go after some quality bench depth.

  

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286. "taking his talents to Los Angeles"
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287. "we'll see, but this had me going:"
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https://twitter.com/JasmineLWatkins/status/1670830411885449218

  

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288. "LOL...accurate"
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292. "lmao. AD's the dude looking on in the background"
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-Sig-

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289. "Makes sense if he's re-signing for a more team-friendly deal"
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Because otherwise, no team is going to give him close to the $27 million per year that he was lined up to make with the Warriors this season.

I'm still fairly confident they bring him back. The only potential hiccup I see is this happening after Myers left, as he and Draymond are VERY close. You'd hope they'd have talked about this before Myets left, and Dunleavy Jr. doesn't try to be make his initial imprint on the team by not re-signing Draymond.

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290. "this would be a bold choice to make the fanbase hate you immediately."
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Dunleavy Jr. doesn't try to
>be make his initial imprint on the team by not re-signing
>Draymond.
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291. "Only way it would work is if he announced some HUGE move first"
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And I mean like "We're trading Poole for Giannis" huge.

Otherwise, yeah, it would infuriate the fanbase.

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of the league a few years ago now gets to line of with these guys where he may have to bring the ball up occasionally, play D, and knock down WIDE open 3's lol

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293. "Damn, CP3 found out through his son, not the team, thinks Zeke did it"
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Chris Paul was on a plane to New York on Sunday, to promote his new book, when he heard the news in a text from his 14-year-old son, Chris II: He had been traded.

Paul, a 12-time All-Star, is one of the most accomplished point guards in N.B.A. history. He had recently finished his third season with the Phoenix Suns, a run that included a trip to the N.B.A. finals in 2021. There seemed to be greener pastures ahead after the Suns acquired Kevin Durant in February.

But the Suns preliminarily agreed on Sunday to a trade with the Washington Wizards for guard Bradley Beal, a three-time All-Star who will turn 30 next week. Paul, 38, was included in the deal. At the moment, it is unclear where Paul will play next season.

In an interview with The New York Times, Paul repeatedly said that Mat Ishbia, who recently acquired the team, and Isiah Thomas, the Hall of Fame point guard who is close with Ishbia, “wanted to go in a different direction.” In February, Ishbia told reporters that Thomas did not have a role with the team. Representatives for the Suns and Thomas did not respond to a request for comment.


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294. "Not really a big deal it was known they were moving on from him…"
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if they couldn’t find a trade partner he would’ve been cut

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298. "kendrick perkins said the suns are the best team in the league"
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as 'currently constructed'.

https://twitter.com/JokicWhisperer/status/1670632869138690048


they currently have 4 players under contract.

  

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301. "BREAKING: talks to send dat Staps headed to Beantown"
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If it goes through:
Boston gets Staps

Wiz get Marcus Morris and picks

Clips get Brogdon. Can't believe they giving up on Brog Dawg so quickly. Yo, though...adding Staps and a healthy Gallo?

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302. "That’s big. "
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Maybe now people can stop with the foolish notions of trading JB.

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304. "yeah that needs to stop now"
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>Maybe now people can stop with the foolish notions of trading
>JB.

The only thing my Celtics don't have that kinda gives me anxiety is a legit point guard. Smart is a good player, but he's not really a point and it shows a lot in the playoffs.

  

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312. "It’s weird. I’d get it if they were in the gutter. "
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But you’re a perennial ECF squad.

You tinker, you don’t tear that down.

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305. "oh helll yes"
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let this happen please
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306. "Woj say it's about to go down..."
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Wiz get Marcus Morris, Amir Coffey and the #30 pick in this year's draft.

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307. "some Celtics fans don't like the trade. I'm like WTF"
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All the Celtics are losing are Brogdon and Gallinari while gaining a big who can score on every level, stretch the floor, and block shots. I'm like how is this a bad deal?

  

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309. "send the haters this info. maybe it'll help them understand."
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314. "It'll be a substantial change to the defense when he's on."
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Because Zingis is definitely way too slow to try to switch or even to hedge. He'll get cooked in space, because he got cooked by injury.

So even though he's clearly very good on offense and a good pure rim protector, I understand why the switchable-offense loyalists might be concerned.

But I agree that, if you're not losing anything of *real* present value to get him, you could do far worse.

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316. "Apparently not lol"
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303. "Knicks Twitter Media have tape of Obi complaining about Thibs"
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I am so sick of these people. Anything so they can talk about a trade.

Too chickenshit to talk about Thibs being replaced because they might not get 'access'.

Then will be all crying when Obi comes back and drops 45 on us in the Garden.

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326. "Given how much the front office empowers Thibs"
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and how contrary Toppin is to Thibs' wants and needs as a coach, Toppin should have never been drafted here, especially given how much Randle has been such a focus on the offensive end.

Toppin has his flaws, especially on the defensive end, but I can imagine he will flourish on a team that will play to his strengths as it appears he is better suited on a run and gun faster paced offensive team.

In an ideal world, Toppin will get traded to a cellar dweller team so if and when he puts up points in the Knicks, it will be as result of empty stats as the team he'll be on will suck.

Pretty unfortunate how much the Knicks wasted on that eighth pick since they did so well drafting Mitchell Robinson, Quickley, and Quentin Grimes.

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363. "And now the Knicks signed his younger brother"
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to a two-way contract. Kind of a head-scratching move since it makes sense to find Obi Toppin a team where he'll get some decent minutes. I'd be stunned if Thibs actually carves out consistent playing time for Obi Toppin next season.

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308. "per Jake Fisher of Yahoo...Blazers set to make a "compelling"..."
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offer to Miami bring Bam to team up with Dame.

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310. "why would Bam do that?"
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like, i'm not saying it's impossible, but why.

  

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311. "They better keep that 3rd pick and knock it out of the park"
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Love Bam but not as a 2nd option. Unless he's with Jimmy and Spo. But even then, we've seen the limitations.

  

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313. "Odd target IMO"
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Given what they’d have to give up to get Miami to even consider that- let alone do it- I don’t understand the target.

If you add Bam to what they already have, sure. I see it.

But the tradeoff just isn’t there given the likely price tag.

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315. "I don’t see it"
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317. "damn Celtics out here fleecing the league."
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if they don't get a ring now its gonna be one of the biggest embarrassments in sports history.

i don't even understand the fleecery (i made it up).

porzingis, tyus jones and first round picks?

how sway?

  

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319. "Tyus going to the Wizards but still it's a great deal for the Celtics"
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and our fans are still finding a problem with it. I'm like what the hell. This is even better than the original Brogdon deal. KP and 2 first round picks for Smart? Like that's nuts.

  

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321. "Zingis and two firsts for Smart and Gallo is transparently a good deal. "
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323. "it is a great deal"
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but not gonna lie, if I were a Celtics fan of the last decade I wouldn't be so happy about seeing a dude like Smart get shipped for... Dat Zingis with the point guard/tablesetter problems they already had before the trade.

Smart was a true "bleed green" Boston Celtic. it always ends somehow but damn. a lot of people I know that are fans were upset. One was swearing on the Clippers downfall.

Memphis will benefit (on paper) -- considering no Ja for 25 games, Brooks ain't coming back, Clarke still rehabbing ACL..

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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327. "This really works for Memphis, because they needed to fill a void"
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Brooks was the 'heart' of the team, for better or worse and now that he is gone, Smart can take up that role and their energy and intensity will level up and he won't take the ball out of Ja or Bane's hands. After all-star break, if they are healthy and Ja hasn't done any other stupid stuff, they are going to be dynamite.

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329. "Agreed. I like this deal way better for Memphis."
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I don't really get 'Zingis in Boston. The fit's weird. And to have to jettison Smart, who is so crucial to so much there... I'm not feeling it for them.

Whereas everything you said about the Memphis side of this is spot-on. Great get for them.

  

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330. "The draft picks Boston got"
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are the most slept on part of that trade IMO, especially when you consider how good the team already is. Getting that many picks in a trade when you are consistently in the Eastern Conference Finals is a damn steal IMO, especially since I'm surprised the Wizards weren't the ones looking to get draft picks in this trade.

I do agree with you in being hesitant on Porzingis meshing well with the Celtics. A large part of me wonders if the Celts will look to keep him beyond next season since he's going to ask for a good chunk of dollars on his next deal. That's going to be interesting as Boston will have to offer Jaylen Brown a decent bag as well, assuming they want to keep him.

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332. "True, but the picks look kinda meh"
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#25 this year and a top-4 protected from GS next year. I don't think GS is anywhere near done, so I'm expecting that one to be in the 20's too. There's potential value there, sure, but those picks miss more than they don't.

Let me be clear - on paper, 'Zingis and 2 firsts for Marcus Smart is a crazy haul. But it still feels like what they really got was an injury-prone guy whose never quite put it all together and some speculative value for an essential part of the squad. Iffy at best, to me.

  

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324. "NGL...the Marcus Smart part HURTS me..."
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but, I understand. Ugh.

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325. "exactly they're going to miss him"
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328. "Have to wonder"
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what Marcus Smart is going to do with all his green hair dye.

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333. "yeah we'll see him get an ovation next year when he returns"
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while the Celtics go on their way to the 1 seed unless something catastrophic happens.

  

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347. "I hate it. He’s the heart and soul of the team."
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358. "Sucks. Can’t imagine him playing in another uniform."
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From his foundation and work in the community to always leaving everything he had on the court, he will be missed. Hope it’s worth it. Wish him nothing but the best.

  

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318. "Khris Middleton opts out."
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320. "should go to Philly"
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322. "Almost certainly re-signing with Bucks on a more cap-friendly deal."
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331. "They better come correct for him to be turning down $40M to help them"
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336. "There's just no way he bails on this situation."
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He doesn't strike me as a "I want to be the #1 guy on a team" guy. He's 31. He wants to be paid through age 36 or whatever and remain on the team where everyone loves him. That'd be my guess.

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359. "but why not do that for $40M?"
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unless they have some cap sorcery lined up to repay the solid he's doing them?

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334. "I don't see how the Bucks give him a new deal for $45+ a year"
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Honestly don't see how anyone signs him for that kind of figure with the new CBA aprons looming.

  

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335. "Shams: CP3 to Golden State, Jordan Poole to Washington."
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Warriors send Poole, a protected first in 2030, and a second rounder in 2027 to Washington in exchange for CP3.

Big trade!

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337. "LOL..WHAT?!?!?!?!??"
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338. "someone in here said CP3 would never be 2nd fiddle to Steph."
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not sure how in the hell this helps the Dubs. old ass broken CP3?

happy for Poole though. he needed to get away from the Warriors for his own mental health.

and he can gun til his heart is content in Washington.

curious now how the Draymond chip falls. Poole not being there i assume gives the Dubs some money (i'm not a cap guy, could be wrong) to spend and not even sure they'd keep Paul around.

BUT, even though Draymond and Poole had an odd relationship after the punch, the Warriors just got worse so would Draymond wanna hang around for "worse?"

  

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346. "I didn't think so..."
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>not sure how in the hell this helps the Dubs. old ass broken
>CP3?
>
>happy for Poole though. he needed to get away from the
>Warriors for his own mental health.
>
>and he can gun til his heart is content in Washington.
>
>curious now how the Draymond chip falls. Poole not being there
>i assume gives the Dubs some money (i'm not a cap guy, could
>be wrong) to spend and not even sure they'd keep Paul around.
>
>BUT, even though Draymond and Poole had an odd relationship
>after the punch, the Warriors just got worse so would Draymond
>wanna hang around for "worse?"

I would think they got rid of Poole to keep Dray but who knows

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339. "Like I said above, makes sense to me"
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He won’t have to play much in the regular season, best case scenario, but he’s also going to be a huge upgrade in practice when it comes to the one thing everyone always complains about them - ball control.

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345. "not for the Wizards, they traded Beal's contract for Poole's?"
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349. "I think if Poole shows maturity and consistency as a top dog"
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He’s got great long term value for them. I also think they recognize they’re not ever gonna actually get to use that “cap space”, we’ve seen plenty of mid market teams pretend their cap space has real value only to get left holding the bag.

So having Poole’s money helps in any potential trade scenario down the line as well.

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340. "I'll leave it to other folks to crack jokes about the CP3 aspect of the ..."
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From Washington's perspective, at least they'll be getting draft picks, but it doesn't make sense why they'd want to pick up Poole's enormous contract. It'll be interesting if Golden State will be a middling team by the time those picks will convey for Washington.

If this trade goes down, Washington will have Tyus Jones and Poole in their backcourt; not exactly top tier talent, but decent enough to where Washington shouldn't in theory tank. I'm guessing the new ownership in Washington doesn't want to waive the proverbial white flag. Yet.

Wonder what'll happen to Kuzma.

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341. "Let's be clear: I love Tyus Jones..."
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... but if you're starting Tyus Jones and Jordan Poole next season, you are 100% tanking, lol.

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350. "agreed lol..."
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>... but if you're starting Tyus Jones and Jordan Poole next
>season, you are 100% tanking, lol.

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343. "didn't Kuz opt out?"
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>From Washington's perspective, at least they'll be getting
>draft picks, but it doesn't make sense why they'd want to pick
>up Poole's enormous contract. It'll be interesting if Golden
>State will be a middling team by the time those picks will
>convey for Washington.
>
>If this trade goes down, Washington will have Tyus Jones and
>Poole in their backcourt; not exactly top tier talent, but
>decent enough to where Washington shouldn't in theory tank.
>I'm guessing the new ownership in Washington doesn't want to
>waive the proverbial white flag. Yet.
>
>Wonder what'll happen to Kuzma.

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348. "twitter sources saying Kuz to the Dubs."
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and the Dubs will restructure CP3 with his agreement.

i mean, i could see it but we'll see.

  

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352. "Sign Kuzma and then flip him and CP3 for Giannis!"
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I can dream.

I'd be okay with Kuzma though.

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342. "and now my Nino Brown moment. I have to root against CP3"
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I like this for Washington, and for Poole

He will be getting paid in a no-pressure environment where he can handle the ball more. it's still a better deal than what they were getting from Beal plus they have draft capital.

for CP3

sure, it'll fit
but now you got my dude playing with Donkeylips, Binky and PBS Logo face
I wanted him to get a ring, NO WAY NOW.

This is Randy Moss on the Cheatriots status for me

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344. "i cant believe that shit really happened lol."
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at least they got rid of poole tho.

i can watch the games this season.

  

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351. "Yean, I don't like it. "
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So, with the understanding that we're in "WIN NOW!" mode , we trade a young but flawed player for a guy who consistently breaks down or disappears every April. Even if we're sitting him for a chunk of the regular season, trading Poole, who plays every night, and draft pucks for a guy we won't be able to play too often before the play-offs (essentially a better version of Iggy with more gas in his tank) is weird.

Only way I could justify it is if we're saying he's only contract for this season, as opposed to four more with Poole. But, hey, we're trying to win now.

It also pains me that this is the first player that we've signed or traded for that I actively dislike. I guess he's our little nut-punching bitch now.

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354. "CP3's easily moveable this offseason, fwiw."
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Like, if it doesn't work out, he's an expiring deal-- and, if I recall correctly, it's not even a fully guaranteed deal. Expiring deals are easy to trade, and even if you can't, you can just cut him at that point.

I think the Poole contract held a lot more long term problems for the Warriors unless you genuinely think he's a future All-Star (I... do not). It's worth trading a top 20 protected pick in 2030 and a 2027 second rounder to get off that deal and take a stab with a regular-season-rested CP3, imo.

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353. "LOL!"
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355. "GS getting the Poole contract off their books is an unqualified win."
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Washington makes a lot of sense for him as a team that can warehouse his contract while they figure out whatever it is they mean to do. And he can jack and pad his way back to respectability in the meantime.

Old Man CP3 as the ultimate backup PG who takes care of the fucking basketball (novel concept for them) makes a lot of sense. I'm sure the usual playoff maladies will strike but this is clearly a great short-term upgrade for a team that is only about the short-term.

  

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356. "Agreed with all this."
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357. "plus its pretty clear the vets wanted poole gone."
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360. "who cares what their vets want? "
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thats how good teams turn into the 94 Celtics

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364. "Even Steph ain’t want that mf around by the end of the season"
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367. "bro said who cares like steph dont run the bay."
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good luck ignoring the wishes of the man that made the warriors the most valuable nba franchise in history.

  

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379. "letting him dictate FO moves as he enters his mid 30s..."
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isnt the way to keep that going

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380. "clearly it is lol."
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381. "They knew the Poole contract was a mistake when they signed it…"
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they just did it to pacify him after the Draymond incident and as the season played out it was obvious why Draymond punched him lol

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382. "so what would you have them do here?"
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since you seem to think letting Poole go is some kind of mistake.

  

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384. "right. bro is acting like they traded away kevon looney."
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riding for jordan poole after his playoff performance for the whole world to see is a weird hill to die on.

do you know how much of a dickhead you have to be for *steph* to lose his cool with you?

it says a lot that by the end of the season like 99% of the nba audience was like 'i see why draymond punched him'.

  

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386. "right. i'm by no means saying Poole is untalented."
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and, like him or not he gets you 20ppg off the bench there's not a TON of those guys around. so, sure, there's some "risk" in that move.

but, the whole Draymond thing, which to be fair the Dubs fucked up by not suspending Draymond (and this is coming from a huge Draymond fan)...like his mental just isn't gonna be right in that situation. and like you said, when that went down A LOT a of people were like "nah Dray went too far" but then by the end of the year people were like "well......"

lastly, they overpaid Poole and now they get to move off that mistake and do something else.

  

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383. "he is the greatest player they will ever have. you appease him"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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last season and I can think of two instances of Steph outwardly showing his disdain for Poole

1) There was an instance of Poole taking an ill advised shot and Steph getting so salty he tossed his mouthpiece towards front row and got T'ed up by a ref.

2) There's a photo floating around of Steph ice grilling Poole from the bench.

What are some other instances of Steph overtly showing his disdain for Poole?

Have to assume things were worse behind the scenes if Steph couldn't contain his disgust from cameras/fans.

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369. "there were more instances like example #1."
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just minus the throwing of the mouthpiece.

like Steph throwing his arms in the air in frustration type stuff.

  

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385. "and dont forget steph giving that speech before game 7 in sacramento"
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when he called out dudes bitching about playing time and not being all in (poole and kuminga).

only for poole and kuminga to do interviews passive aggressively bitching about playing time after that before/during the lakers series.

  

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368. "I hardly watched the Warriors"
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last season and I can think of two instances of Steph outwardly showing his disdain for Poole

1) There was an instance of Poole taking an ill advised shot and Steph getting so salty he tossed his mouthpiece towards front row and got T'ed up by a ref.

2) There's a photo floating around of Steph ice grilling Poole from the bench.

What are some other instances of Steph overtly showing his disdain for Poole?

Have to assume things were worse behind the scenes if Steph couldn't contain his disgust from cameras/fans.

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372. "RE: GS getting the Poole contract off their books is an unqualified win."
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Agreed on Poole, his head got kinda big and he flamed out in the playoffs. Here he doesnt have to worry about the playoffs or any attention at all really. He can gun like World B Free if he feels like it and he'll at least put up the empty numbers to keep getting paid in an almost-worst-case scenario.

For the Dubs, man, I don't know, I am very skeptical of Paul's ability to impact their situation favorably. To me I see it's a one-year commitment at most, next year of his deal isn't guaranteed I don't think. Maybe they know what they are doing but this seems more like a cap dump that they can dress up to make it look like a basketball move.

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375. "He ain't winning 6MOY, but I think he can contribute in this sort of rol..."
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IDK, provide something along the lines of what Livingston did - spell the starters, run the offense, hit some jumpers. Obviously a lesser version of that, though, as Livingston was pretty great there (and obviously the team was much more than what they are now). Anything beyond that is either asking or promising far too much.

So yeah, salary dump with some on-court value. The Poole thing was completely untenable by the end of the year. Had they not been able to work out something like this they probably should have just cut him outright. And I'm on Poole's side, really - had I been in his shoes, bag or not, I'd be bringing a mentality somewhere between "I don't give a single fuck" and "active sabotage". Nice work, Dray!

  

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361. "This is stupid. Paul killed the Suns by slowing them to a slog. "
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Why would the Warriors add a player that dribbles about ten seconds off the shot clock before he finally decides to get started?

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362. "he's definitely not going to do that there, he didn't do it in Houston....."
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because Harden had the ball

>Why would the Warriors add a player that dribbles about ten
>seconds off the shot clock before he finally decides to get
>started?

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373. "it's a concern but not quite that big"
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we saw CP3 in D'Antoni's system, it wasnt the worst fit. They had Harden there and they have Steph here. The problem in PHX, in some part, was that they didn't invest in a *good* backup PG, which seems like the first thing you do when you get post-Clippers CP3.

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377. "Yeah but he's 38 now and even more injury prone. "
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Adding Rocket's Years Chris Paul would be a genius move, but Paul of the last couple years....i just dont get it.

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366. "I've been slowly warming to this"
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It can work if he plays like 15-20 a game, and is in charge of the second unit. His presence out there with the "B-team" will help the continued development of Kuminga and Moody. Then maybe have him out there as part of a modified "death line-up" during close game? I can see it.

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374. "CP3's first practice:"
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Draymond: (after CP3 doesn't dive for a loose ball): I know you an OG, but you gonna have show some HUSTLE, short timer.

CP3: (after walking slowly to pick up the ball and walking back over to Draymond) " I know who you are and I know what you want. And I have a very particular skill......" (punches Draymond in the nuts)

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371. "Lot of chatter, let's call it what it is, a salary dump"
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CP3's name recognition allows them to sell this as a move that brings in a veteran third guard to maximize the Splash Brothers' final years but in reality they dumped Poole's contract here, period. Paul is 86 years old, he didn't have a good or healthy season last year and while he's risen from the dead before even Jesus only did it once. He's through and even if he's mostly there physically he is a shitty fit for the Dubs' style of play unless they want stark contrast between their starters and bench (which they don't).

This gets them under the second apron and gives them long-term flexibility. They have invested a lot and it paid off, that title two years ago was quite an addition to the value and legacy of the franchise, but they appear to be moving in another direction. Trading Wiseman and now Poole, potentially parting ways with Green, Myers leaving, etc. The writing is on the wall, they'll sell the place out with Steph and do OK while cutting costs and reloading for the next move. There won't be any seamless build because two of the three main components of that are already gone with Poole and Wiseman.

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378. "Great trade for the dubs because Jordan wasn't listening to Steph"
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He bought into his own hype, thought he was better than what he was, and wouldn't listen to Dray and Steph, it's on video.

Mike Dunleavy Jr damn sure wasn't choosing Dray or Poole. One of them had to go and they made the best choice they could make.

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365. "I used to attend a few Wizards games yearly…"
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They couldn’t pay me to watch that shit now.

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370. "I see the phrase "widely reported" is another that's lost all meaning"
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Honestly Harden's return, to me, is not the defining factor in Philly's competitiveness although it's a significant one. Returning last year's group won't get it done with just a coaching change. The broader approach and moves they make to better tailor the team around Joel are what will make the biggest difference, I think.

Philly and Portland are two teams in different situations that I think could mobilize and really impact the trade market and player movement overall.

Others that seem *certain* to do are in a couple groups. Washington, Golden State and Boston have already been very active. I guess dating back to the deadline we have to throw PHX in there too. And none of those teams are done shaking shit up. Then you have teams like the Clippers that are also keen to make major transactions, the usual group of contenders looking to add a piece and of course the free-agent ambitions of teams like Sacramento on the top end and Houston near the bottom. This could set a record for most transactions in a summer maybe, I think the biggest names will stay put (including PG) but overall volume and second/mid-tier moves will be insane.

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376. "Man, listen, in Knicks Twitter, widely reported could mean the "
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toll taker at the Lincoln Tunnel heard a conversation stating that Leon Rose was in Ukraine vacationing with Jaylen Brown's cousin....and thus the Celtics are going to trade Jaylen Brown for RJ, D-Rose and two second round picks..... I am beyond sick of this shit.

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387. "Mark Stein says Mavs/Hawks were discussing a deal before..."
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the draft that would have had them swapping first round picks (10 for 15) and Capela going to Dallas. Mavs ultimately backed out because Atlanta also wanted Josh Green. So...Capela can be had, I guess.

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388. "Cam Johnson's pockets are about to be SUPER straight"
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the pistons definitely want him, and I think a lot of other teams do too

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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389. "surprised Brooklyn would let him go"
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390. "they might not, Windhorst said they're prepared to match up to like "
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4 years / 100


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391. "Atlanta sending John Collins to Utah for Rudy Gay and a future 2nd..."
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tough.

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392. "with the looming new CBA, expect to see way more salary dumps..."
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like this.

good players getting moved for little in return.

  

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393. "Id retire"
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From Atlanta to SLC. Id just retire.

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394. "YOU go live in Utah! (c)Derek Harper"
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395. "Two Americas © Bomani Jones"
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<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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396. "lol Vegas and LA are short cheap flights plus he’s a military brat…"
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he’s used to moving around

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397. "SLC is fun. And Vegas is close. "
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398. "Fun for whom"
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never been, but still...its fucking utah

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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401. "I think it was Charles who said 'everywhere is nice if you're rich'"
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In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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402. "the only thing worth seeing in Utah are the national parks. stunning"
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>never been, but still...its fucking utah

theyre amazing, and I'm not raelly an outdoorsy/hiking/camping kinda guy but it was an experience i wont forget

Arches
Bryce Canyon
Zion
Capital Reef
and Canyon Lands


It's amazing how fucking huge western states are, and the various types of environments/terrain in this country...felt like a star wars set at times, on those foreign planets with the rock formations...

but once that was over I was ready to get the fuck back to NYC , Salt Lake City is terrible

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403. "lol, it's not a complete shithole or anything but..."
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i definitely wouldn't call it fun. i spent a couple nights there between taking the train from Oakland to Denver. didn't have the worst time but i got zero reason to go back. if i go to Utah again i'm sticking to camping/hiking

  

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404. "Media trying to force Dame out of Portland bc they got nothing else..."
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to talk about in the summer.

As a new PNW resident, I understand why he doesn't want to leave. It's pretty great here. Nice people. Beautiful, calm/serene scenery. Great food. And more than enough to do off the court to keep you occupied, especially if you're a family guy like him not concerned with being in the media spotlight. He also stated multiple times that he wants to raise his family here. Dude just like the PDX area.

Leave the guy alone and let him live his life. He's done nothing wrong and if anything should be commended on not being a superteam jumping whimp. His loyalty and love for the city he was drafted into should be championed instead of criticized.

Plus, Blazers fans >>> Heat "fans." People actually care about their team here. They deserve a good team with a great player.

  

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405. "this is all of dames making."
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the media aint doing anything but taking everything dame says seriously even when hes blatantly contradicting himself.

dude wants to stay in portland but hes literally listing teams he wants to go to and constantly bitching about playing with his young teammates?

that nigga wants to bounce to a team with real championship potenial.

he just doesnt wanna look like the bad guy because of it.

he wants to have his cake and eat it too. like signing that long term supermax deal with a team he knew wouldnt be a championship competitor when he could have left to a better franchise.

dude doesnt wanna look greedy for putting money over winning. and he doesnt wanna look like an asshole for putting winning over loyalty to the area/franchise. its one of the most schizophrenic tight rope acts ive ever seen an athlete try to pull on everyone. and i think most nba fans are just tired of it at this point.





  

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408. "I’m missing the concrete reporting stating that he bitched about stuff"
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Like, I’m not sure I’ve ever heard him say anything out of pocket regarding the situation. Saying that he wants to compete in Portland with a good team around him is pretty benign.

But yeah, it’s fairly easy for a Bleacher Report blogger to say some shit based off of hearsay and for others to take the bait.

  

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412. "well?"
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406. "agreed its funny now how they make it "bad" for a player to want to..."
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spend his entire career in one place and not ring chase

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409. "no nuanced takes either. all these meatheads are saying the same shit"
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thinking they know whats best for dame the human being.

dude should be praised. goes to show how toxic the media environment has become.

  

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410. "everybody wants to be a fantasy team GM, since Bron & KD…"
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made it ok to team hop and ring chase now every star is expected to do the same

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411. "L"
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413. "Big 3 on CBS…"
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pretty competitive….

I thought is interesting in a podcast Icecube spoke on how the NBA tries to block them from networks and sponsors

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414. "Some fans think it's silly but I'd trade Jaylen Brown for Dame"
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Add in Grant Williams, Payton Pritchard to make the money work. I'd rather go these next 3 years with Dame driving, dishing, and playing a 2 man game with Tatum/KP than see Jaylen out there.

  

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415. "upgrade not a downgrade. idc if Jaylen younger or whatever..."
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anyone could say.

Dame do got that dawg in him, and he can actually dribble the ball, two things Jaylen is lacking that are kind of important to winning.

i'd do that move in a heartbeat.

defense may be a struggle, but w/ the rules the way there and the offensive skills of todays NBA talent, defense is always gonna be a struggle no matter who you are.

  

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417. "Is that offer on the table or we just being fantasy GM?"
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432. "It's been rumored the Celtics had interest"
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Not sure exactly what it means but hey

  

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429. "would you swap him for Dejounte though?"
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Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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416. "Orlando: “Bye bye, Bol Bol.”"
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Waived him today.

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418. "Its amazing to me. With Wemby going #1, Bol is going to be motivated"
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Hope he goes where he can play. Portland, Miami, Philly, Dallas would all be great landing spots for him.

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424. "Bro he’s ass. He should head to Peru right now. "
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428. "People here have been trying to make the Wemby comparison forever…"
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outside of similar measurables they are obviously completely different players skill wise

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430. "Oh they have the same skills. One is just far more skilled at ‘em lol"
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419. "i love Bol Bol. been high on him forever."
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i feel like he's shown enough that i'm always surprised to see these teams bail on him.

  

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423. "... I mean, Orlando was better with him off the floor."
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The On/Off numbers have always been damning for Bol, especially offensively. Defensively for the Magic he made the team *slightly* better with his length and the amount of space he can take up... but offensively, both the Nuggets and the Magic are clearly by the numbers notably better when he's off the court.

Why is that? Is it his insanely low assist rate, one of the lowest in the NBA for any player facing the basket? Is it his propensity to take off-the-bounce 3s that he only sinks at a sub-30% rate? Is it the fact that he mostly stands around watching unless the ball is actively in his hands? Who's to say? But he's never once even resembled a long term net positive impact player on offense in the NBA to date.

And people will say "but he showed flashes!" and that's true... but it's always been true. He was never consistent in high school. Obviously he barely played in college, but as someone who watched several of those games, his engagement level when he wasn't on-ball was low. At a certain point, you'd think "flashes" would turn into one season of consistent net positive value.

He's still young, so there's still time for him to turn it around... but as someone who's always been low on Bol, when I see Orlando, a team that *needs* young assets, just straight up bail on him? I think that's telling. Teams don't need big guys who can make the occasional sweet-looking on-ball offensive shot creation or the occasional monster weak-side rejection. They need guys who know how to play team basketball. And at least to date, that just hasn't been Bol.

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420. "Lakers should take a flier"
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“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

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425. "Mo Bamba taught you nothing huh?"
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433. "I had high hopes for him, at least he had a cool rap song lol"
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426. "Yuck"
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421. "Magic gave him 20mpg then waived him. I think we know how this ends."
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I don't really count the Denver stint - Malone is historically very averse to playing younger guys - but him not sticking in *Orlando* is pretty damning.

  

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422. "People don't realize how much his minutes dwindled down the stretch."
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They could've picked up his second year for 2.2 million and tried to deal him for a second round pick or something. But no. Just straight up cut him.

Meanwhile, they picked up Goga Bitadze's option for around 2 million-- and signed Moe Wagner for nearly 8 million a year.

Like... yeah. Combine that with the fact that he played closer to only 13 MPG down the stretch on a young team that should be interested in keeping young talent with potential... and combine it with the fact that the On/Off numbers are *not* forgiving when it comes to Bol... yeah.

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436. "Big Mo took a major step the last 2 years"
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career high efficiency across the board with career high usage

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438. "I think the issue is similar to the 'running quarterback'"
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Because I suspect if you look at the careers of a Brad Sellers, Tellis Frank, and to a lesser extent, Ralph Samson these were guys who were oversized tweeners...they were supposed to be 4s or 5s but had the tools to be wings but no one wanted to develop that for them, so they seemed to underachieve. As lax as Bol may have seemed at times, i think that is the hang up for him...you have a certain skillset and you are stuck trying to shoehorn it into the systems you play in.

Wemby is really the Ralph Samson remix. He has learned basketball in a way that gives him a wings game, but on defense he is going to be expected to dominate the boards and shut down the paint. No matter how athletic, this idea he is going to be like wing defender can't see it. On offense he is clearly not a back to the basket player either.

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442. "the issue is that he isnt good"
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446. "You can't blame systems for Bol's shortcomings, though."
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>As lax as Bol may have seemed at times, i think
>that is the hang up for him...you have a certain skillset and
>you are stuck trying to shoehorn it into the systems you play
>in.

He's played in multiple systems now. And when given the chance to be an on-ball player, he's repeatedly shown himself to be both a ball stopper and an inefficient off-the-bounce shooter.

So why would a coach tailor a system to give this player *more* in-game reps at something he's shown over the last 4-5 years of his career to be inefficient at? Especially when his most efficient skills to date-- putback opportunities and catch-and-shoot 3s-- come off the ball?

But then when he's taken off-ball, he's consistently shown he just doesn't really care, doesn't really engage (on either end when off-ball, really). So if you're bad on-ball and disengaged off-ball...

... then why would people pay him?

Like, he's a young player, and maybe a coach can reach him one of these days, but... he's had a few good opportunities (especially in Orlando) and repeatedly not been able to earn consistent minutes because his play is net negative at this point.

I also, fwiw, don't think these problems align with Wemby, because Wemby is a good off-ball player and a decent passer. I also think defensively he will be fine in a way that Bol hasn't consistently, largely because Wemby's awareness and engagement are consistently higher.

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427. "I'm rooting for him, but you're not wrong"
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I watched him play w/the Magic last year and never felt like he was actually a plus on the floor. He does some interesting things, but he's far from being a contributor. Similar to how I felt about Wiseman at the end of his GS run, and then in Detroit.

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431. "I'm happy with what the Cavs have done."
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fuck what you heard, the Cavs lost that Knicks series because the lack of shooting around their core players (not to mention the abysmal shooting of the team in general: 5/27 from WIDE OPEN 3) made the whole team BBQ Chicken against a Thibs-coached Knicks team where everyone knows their roles.

Miami didn't have that problem, because they had a better shooting situation (and a better coach).

So the Cavs said "fuck it, we're talking one of their guys" in Max Strus.

Then took Georges Niang from Philly.

Resigned LeVert for 2y/32M (that was the first news to drop and I was ECSTATIC).

Added Damian Jones, late of the Jazz, who wasn't my radar but will be infinitely more playable in the scant minutes he'll be needed than RoLo.

Then nabbed Ty Jerome, a casualty of Golden State's tax apron Hell. More shooting for cheap from a taller guard who might add some cushion to whatever happens with Rubio.

They didn't spend all their exceptions and may just be about $3M away from the luxury tax.

Contracts are lined up with the Donovan/Mobley extension decisions. Another bonus.

One more small contract could be added.
Since Torrey Craig (a South Carolina man) was nabbed by the BULLS...

i'm hoping Cavs can steal Trendon Watford who was waived by Portland (likely to make room for that Grant deal). rather him and his skills over Dean Wade, and would be an upgrade over the recently departed Lamar Stevens in a similar role.

Strus, Niang, and Jerome were guys who pissed me off BECAUSE of their shooting on their previous teams as opponents. Now they're on the Cavs.

An opportunity for the main guys to get better.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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447. "i need my guy Caris to stay healthy"
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498. "Yeah, last year was one of his healthiest seasons"
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and once he settled into 6-man role things were much better for him.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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434. "damn jordan poole looks like hes aged 10 years in 2 months."
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435. "its the chops 😂"
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437. "bro looks stressed and depressed."
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439. "In-season tourney details announced..."
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/37981050/nba-officially-unveils-format-groups-new-season-tournament

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440. "I'm a bit confused about how to feel about this"
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Like, even more than the Play-in, this is completely new and uncharted for the NBA. And the league seems to expect this too.

I kind of think they should have leveraged rivalries or tradition more to give fans a direction of how to react - naming the cup after Stern or another icon, including historical rivals in "pods", etc.

The buzz and excitement likely won't be as fierce as it was for the Play-in. Maybe Silver strategically rolled out the Play-in as a beta test to gauge fans' acceptance of this larger-scale idea.

It'll take time for the media and the players to make this tournament must-see. In the first year, the attention is going to feel like propaganda in the sense that we're being groomed to feel a certain level of passion for something we have no tie to or asked for.

There's a 50-50 shot this becomes successful (enough). I think the Commissioner's Cup in the W works well enough. There's a level of accomplishment that comes with winning it, even if everyone knows it's not nearly as substantial as winning a chip. To me, there's something glaring, but also solveable, in terms of a selling point or competitive hook that could draw fans and players in. It'll take some time for the league office to figure that out. Hopefully, not so long that fans turn the page on the entertainment value of the tournament.

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441. "Hard yawn. So unnecessary. "
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Maybe it’s exactly what he’s saying it is and will become an integral part of the NBA calendar.

I just don’t see the point.

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444. "The NBA/Media has done so much to build up chips"
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And being an NBA Champion...like what the hell is this in comparison.

Honestly, it'll be on the players to determine how important it is. If the players are talking about how important the 'cup' means to them, and there are ultra competetive games around it...for ex. Coaches playing stars 40+ min for Cup games like they do for the playoffs, sure then it'll latch on and mean something.


Otherwise, its just gonna be like thos dumb ass all star game gimmicks that dont matter bc players dont give a fuck.

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448. "if winning players got $2M ea or more it would be better"
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cup play in european soccer leagues are cool because its every division of the sport in one tournament. that makes the players care, so we care.

a premier league only tournament would be boring and pointless without some little semi-pro club making a miracle run to the quarterfinals. money is the only way to make anyone care about this, and while the 9-12th dudes wouldnt sneeze at $500K, thats not far off from some stars' game checks.

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445. "I don’t like that the groups are divided by Conference "
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I don’t think this affects the actual rounds of the tournament, but the group play looks a little boring if it’s the same matchups we see regularly.

  

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449. "the league is full of gimmicks at this point"
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This. Super teams. The All-Star foolishness. Very little defense. 140 pt games. Nascar style jerseys. The list goes on.


It isn't a very serious sport anymore, unfortunately. And it keeps getting worse.


I wonder how much of this is Adam Silver being too fucking nice. Someone comes in with a dumbass idea and he doesn't have the spine to tell that person what a dumb fucking idea a mid seasonon tournament or resetting the score every quarter or whatever is.


Either way, it really comes off like the NBA is very insecure about its product.

And it is very unclear why players should give a fuck about this.


If the NBA wants to improve their product/regular season, they need to figure out how to get players to care about it again. This aint it.




  

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450. "Agree on all of this. That’s why I’m big on college hoops."
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>
>This. Super teams. The All-Star foolishness. Very little
>defense. 140 pt games. Nascar style jerseys. The list goes
>on.
>
>
>It isn't a very serious sport anymore, unfortunately. And it
>keeps getting worse.
>
>
>I wonder how much of this is Adam Silver being too fucking
>nice. Someone comes in with a dumbass idea and he doesn't
>have the spine to tell that person what a dumb fucking idea a
>mid seasonon tournament or resetting the score every quarter
>or whatever is.
>
>
>Either way, it really comes off like the NBA is very insecure
>about its product.
>
>And it is very unclear why players should give a fuck about
>this.
>
>
>If the NBA wants to improve their product/regular season, they
>need to figure out how to get players to care about it again.
>This aint it.
>
>
>
>
>

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457. "Lol christ you're fucking miserable"
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Super teams like the Showtime Lakers and Celtics? Like the 90s Bulls?
The all-star game really got you bothered like this?
140 point games like the 00s Kings and Mavs?
And jumping out the window because the jerseys got one, little logo.

Get a grip.

Players are more talented than ever.
Most watched play-offs in years.
So they're trying something different.
Ol' "change is hard" ass.

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462. "playoffs pre-finals were the highest rated in 11 years."
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and the best in 5 years including the finals.

this was one of the most compelling end of the season races to the playoffs in recent memory. and easily one of the best 1st rounds ever.

so among most nba viewers...shit doesnt seem to be nearly as apocalyptic as some would have you think.

people expect perfection. then whenever theres any flaw...people complain that there needs to be change. then whenever change is instituted people complain that things arent like they were before. its just a never ending cycle of contrarianism.

  

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465. "lol ...nah"
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>Super teams like the Showtime Lakers and Celtics? Like the
>90s Bulls?

How old are you? Not even close to the same. Those dudes wanted to beat each other, not team up. This AAU shit is corny to me...that okay with you if I have that opinion?


>The all-star game really got you bothered like this?

Bothered enough to....post about it? I guess so. Bigger question is why does other people's opinions on this have you bothered like this?


We could play that all day.



>140 point games like the 00s Kings and Mavs?

Uh...K. Good...point? lol. I really got to you, huh? Damn, my bad man.


>And jumping out the window because the jerseys got one, little
>logo.

Yup that's what I said. I'm at the ledge right now.


>
>Get a grip.

You sure I'm the one who needs to get a grip here? I posted about various gimmicks the NBA has tried in a desperate attempt to attract non-basketball fans, and you had a tantrum.




>
>Players are more talented than ever.

Debatable...certainly not defensively. Better shooters, more athletic for sure. Do you have a point or just continuing the tantrum?

>Most watched play-offs in years.

That's great....not sure why the NBA feels like they need to try and recreate a jr playoffs in December. Looks like most dudes in here feel the same.

Again, not sure why you have such a hard time with that.


Most think this is stupid, you don't.

You want like an award or something? "Most Open to Adam Silver's Dumbass Ideas"? I'm sure someone around here would make you one.


>So they're trying something different.


>Ol' "change is hard" ass.



Why are you so defensive over this? Shit got weird QUICK.

Ol' "other people's opinions trigger me" ass

  

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472. "lol ...sure guy"
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tantrum cuz you said some "i'm stuck in 19XX..." ass shit and someone disagreed and spoke to it. Like you're new to how message boards work.

You should probably not watch basketball since the product is so "gimmicky" (unlike any other time in history) and you just can't take having a 3"x3" patch on the jersey.

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488. "No dog in this fight, but re: super teams"
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>>Super teams like the Showtime Lakers and Celtics? Like the
>>90s Bulls?
>
>How old are you? Not even close to the same. Those dudes
>wanted to beat each other, not team up.

That's because they already had the luxury of being teamed up with all-time greats.

The only real difference here is that the players were no longer subject to shoddy management incapable of surrounding them with championship talent.

The only difference I see between the two is, The Man largely controlled the fates of Magic, Bird, and Mike. Add Isaiah to that mix.

Each of those cats had significant squads built around them.

But Lebron had no such luxury. Ditto Wade and Bosh. They didn't have HOF level running mates in their primes. So the difference here is, they decided to stop leaving it to The Man and took their fate into their own hands.

Hating that is basically hating the concept of worker power, because it is essentially saying that it is only acceptable for the worker in this example to succeed based on the cards they are dealt by The Man.

Thus, the players with competent/fortunate management get praise for making the most of their riches, while the comparative peasants get derided for refusing to spend their careers mired in relative talent poverty.

There are outliers, teams who won without an overabundance of talent, and different eras where different models reigned supreme, but with the possible exception of KD making the filthy rich disgustingly wealthy, most of these players simply put themselves in situations similar to what the Mike/Magic/Bird/Zeke types were *given*.

Shaq & KObe didn't have to seek each other out. Jerry West did that.

Kobe was then gifted Pau.

KG was gifted to Boston by a Boston player running Minny, and Ray was also traded there.

They didn't have to seek each other out, because they had competent management.

Tim had perhaps the most competent management of his era and got gifted multiple HOF players that spanned two generations of players.

It's an unfair criticism. The super team has always existed. The only difference is the players in the modern era took matters in their own hands, instead of leaving it up to The Man.

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491. "^^Ding ding ding"
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451. "Could be interesting"
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For right now it does make want tune in for those group games and tourney but come November I may have forgot about it. I hope they do air the group games nationally.

I'm wondering if they have more plans for it down the line that they are holding off on until they see if it catches on. I think it could make more sense if they make some more changes to how the regular season plays out. Maybe get rid of divisions.

I also kind of worry that it will be like soccer tournaments where some counties send a "b team" sometimes.

As far as I'm understanding these games will all be part of the 82 game regular season except for the final which will be an 83rd game for those two teams. Also, during the group stage teams will play games that are not part of this cup. I think that's another change I would make in the future. It will feel a lot more like a cup/tournament if only games for it are played during this period. Set aside 2/3 weeks for only the tournament games including group stages. I get why this might not be practical but I do think it would help separating it from the regular season.

  

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453. "Yeah, this is fucking stupid. There's no point to it at all"
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My hate for the play-in games is well documented, but I at least get the purpose. This... means nothing.

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454. "Yeah like literally whats the point"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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455. "The only thing that would make sense"
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from the league and TV broadcaster's perspective is to lessen the chance teams will load manage playing times for star players since it appears these early season games will have some semblance of heightened importance.

I personally won't care too deeply outside of game between already established rivals, but if this will result in better televised basketball games, I won't complain too loudly.

I have to imagine the players are all alright with since since I'm assuming they could have voted this down when it came about with the recent CBA, so if they are cool with it, I won't grumble about this too much. And I'm also assuming the extra TV dollars this will generate will get added in future CBA agreements, so that should be some added incentive for this to perform well; at least in theory.

Since I am an East Coast TV watcher, I wonder how late the games that will take place in Las Vegas will air on TV; I fear the games will start 10:00 or 10:30 PM ESP since that is fair for Las Vegas time zone, but not so much for me.

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458. "If it continues, within a few years teams that pull a double (cup/chip)"
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Are definitely going to use that for bragging rights and comparing the great teams of the era.

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452. "he's going to die in that chair that's why Tim and Becky moved on"
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456. "I know I'm an old traditionalist but this new "in season tournament"..."
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is stupid.

With the contracts being given out the league is apparently not hurting for money why are they constant trying to re-invent the wheel and be like soccer?

And in regards to the original post apparently Ime Udoka wanted no parts of James Harden in Houston lol

>It’s being widely reported that James Harden is returning
>to Houston.
>
>Well, that’s a wrap for Philly being a contender. Maxey
>takes over at the point,
>but at 6’2 defensively he is really small, so a 1/2 punch of
>Maxey and Embid isn’t
>going to cut it.
>
>Harden was always going to go back to the South. He is no East
>coast cat and never
>really liked it.
>
>Harden/Porter/Green/Smith/Sengun…with mofo Udoka!
>
>That’s a serious squad right there
>
>We shall see if this all comes to fruition.

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459. "It's dumb, but really doesn't change much."
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The one extra game is quite dumb, though.

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460. "Wait til someone gets injured in this tournament "
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Uproar is going to be quite loud

And I agree I think it’s dumb as well

>is stupid.
>
>With the contracts being given out the league is apparently
>not hurting for money why are they constant trying to
>re-invent the wheel and be like soccer?
>
>And in regards to the original post apparently Ime Udoka
>wanted no parts of James Harden in Houston lol
>
>>It’s being widely reported that James Harden is returning
>>to Houston.
>>
>>Well, that’s a wrap for Philly being a contender. Maxey
>>takes over at the point,
>>but at 6’2 defensively he is really small, so a 1/2 punch
>of
>>Maxey and Embid isn’t
>>going to cut it.
>>
>>Harden was always going to go back to the South. He is no
>East
>>coast cat and never
>>really liked it.
>>
>>Harden/Porter/Green/Smith/Sengun…with mofo Udoka!
>>
>>That’s a serious squad right there
>>
>>We shall see if this all comes to fruition.
>

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461. "most people thought the play-in tournament was stupid."
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and it turned out to be a good move.

i will give this new shit some time before jumping to conclusions.

ultimately if the players choose to compete hard and make it matter...then it will.

  

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463. "You're right but..."
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At least the play in tournament has real implications. This is mostly meaningless other than the "title" game where the winning team's players can get 500k/each. Which - good for them, but for fans...why should we care?

At it's core, it's really an exercise in "Okay, so my team plays one of these 4 other teams every Tuesday and Friday for a period of the season" *or whatever days the tournament play is on, I dunno. Which really doesn't change a thing. But I can't really see anyone giving a shit about what team pulled in an extra 5-6 million bucks. Obviously, we all care who gets into the playoffs.

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466. "right I can see them getting pissed when Pop "load manages""
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his entire starting lineup for the "tournament games" and with the contract he just signed I doubt if he cares about a fine lol

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467. "if you don't care what do you lose?"
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it's just regular season basketball plus one game

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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470. "its not about caring who wins the money"
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its about paying the players to care

if they are fully inveated in winning, it will lead to a good product. that, in theory, should be its own reason to watch.

but like i said before, i dont think thats enough money for the players to care enough to be compelling.

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476. "plus its not just about the player's caring, what is the team's incentiv..."
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If the coach is just playing his star player 32 minutes instead of 42+ in a do or die game, it means nothing

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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478. "they should play for 10% cap relief the next season"
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479. "right. its gotta be for something lol"
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485. "^^ great idea"
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487. "it was kind of a throwaway line when i typed it, but..."
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thats exactly what they should be playing for

fucking cap space

that will make EVERYONE care

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481. "I mean, it’s enough money for 7-14"
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I’m almost absolutely sure no coach, let alone coaches, would be so brazen, but the funniest way this could play out would be a prestige summer league


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471. "I don't think 'most' people thought the playoff tournament was dumb"
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And besides that, there was an easy argument as to how that easily makes the stretch run more interesting because it directly correlates to more teams having a chance at the ultimate goal...a championship.

The ultimate issue with this in season tournament is how does this compare to the nba championship which has been the goal for all these years. Is the chip 1A and the cup 1b? is it more important to win the cup then to lose the finals. like literally what the fuck is the importance of winning the cup?

Until the league defines that AND media/fans buys in, the shit is confusing as fuck.

Like make the cup mean something like the winner automatically makes the playoffs and gets the 1st win of their playoff series or the cup winner gets plus 5 on their win total....or something. Not that i think those are good ideas, but at least it makes a little sense.

Here is just an exhibition tournament on the back of regular season games.

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473. "the idea that this is difficult is only because we're not used to it"
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the european soccer teams do this already, it's fine.

people figure it out. does it matter ? it matters as much as you think it does. some people care and some people don't and it's fine.


and the clubs often don't play their top players till the later rounds etc,

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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474. "nah...can you answer any of these questions?"
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>The ultimate issue with this in season tournament is how does this compare to the nba championship which has been the goal for all these years. Is the chip 1A and the cup 1b? is it more important to win the cup then to lose the finals. like literally what the fuck is the importance of winning the cup?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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483. "I think you’re way overthinking this"
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>>The ultimate issue with this in season tournament is how
>does this compare to the nba championship which has been the
>goal for all these years. Is the chip 1A and the cup 1b? is it
>more important to win the cup then to lose the finals. like
>literally what the fuck is the importance of winning the cup?


It’s a fun little thing that gives a team some bragging rights for the rest of the season. It doesn’t compare to anything involving the finals or even the playoffs. Who is even suggesting that the winner is more impressive than the Finals loser? You’re inventing issues that aren’t there.

  

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484. "Its a question bc i literally have no idea what it means. I never claime..."
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that someone was saying the cup winner is more impressive than the finals loser. It literally was a question that I was asking lol


Now this is inventing. has any team commented that they care about the CUP yet?

>It’s a fun little thing that gives a team some bragging rights for the rest of the season.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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486. "How/why would the NBA even answer that question though?"
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If your question is “what are the implications for the standings/championship?” well the answer is obviously none. If your question is “why won’t they tell us how the winner of this compares to the Finals loser?”… why would they even do that? Do you want them to release a press statement that states this is more or less prestigious than being the Finals loser? And do you want every team to tweet out “we care about this tournament?” Guarantee by the time the tournament starts every team’s social media will be treating it like the most important thing there is lol.

If you’re not interested in the tourney, that’s fine, but the tourney’s existence itself is not as confusing as you’re making it out to be. It’s a midseason tournament with money and a trophy for the winner. Happens in soccer all the time. It’s meant to give a little bit more juice to the regular season. We’ll see if it actually does that, but I’m having a tough time believing everyone on this board is THIS angry and confused by the thing. Plus I’m like 75% sure the board will be singing the tournament’s praises once it actually happens.

  

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489. "I mean someone already explained why the soccer comparison"
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Is a fail. And team's social media tweets mean that the actual front office and team care?lmao Cmon

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475. "not exactly"
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>the european soccer teams do this already, it's fine.

> and the clubs often don't play their top players till the
>later rounds etc,
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

each national football association cup invites every single club from the entire country, not just the first division.

nobody at all would care about an english cup that only involves the teams in the PL.

but Sheffield United made a run to the semis, and thats something people care about, David running with the Goliaths. Grimsby (a 4th tier club!) made a run to the quarters, beating a PL team to get there, and thats something people care about.

besides the cinderella factor, Grimsby has a stadium that holds 9000 people in a village of 38,000. an entire region of the country was electrified by their little club making noise.

in the Netherlands, a semi-pro team made a run to the semis of their cup! thats one of the top 10 sports stories of the entire year imo.

a closed tournament within a specific league has absolutely none of what makes national cups special in soccer.

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477. "wondered about that but i no nothing about soccer"
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thanks for the explanation.

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482. "pretty much, plus I expect format changes in subsequent years."
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I have a bit of an issue with the format as announced, but I’m sure it will be entertaining and those issues will either not really be issues or will get smoothed out in the next couple seasons.

  

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480. "And I definitely have this wrong, but it’s like 6 days over a whole mo..."
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I’ve listened to Zach Lowe explain the format and why it’ll probably be fun two maybe three times but until it’s actually happening I confess I don’t have a handle on it at all

Until a couple weeks ago I assumed it was a single week or weekend…

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464. "Harry Giles sighting? Knicks about to do Obi double dirty...."
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Knicks brought Obi's brother Jacob to camp and Knicks fans thought, oh they must be keeping Obi, but then we thought, so Thibs is going to NOT play both of them.... but it turned out a few days later they traded Obi. Now they are supposedly just signing Jacob to a training camp contract, meaning they are most likely going to cut him.

I don't know if that 'audio' that was floating around with Obi going at Thibs is true, but the Knicks giving Obi up for phantom picks and trading him to a rival team just so he can come back and haunt us sucks, but I want that Karma for Thibs.


I had forgotten about Harry Giles but apparently he has healed up from whatever injuries he had and is auditioning to be Bobby Portis. That Duke network is working for him. Now they need to send a life coach and chef to NOLA for Zion.

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468. "God, I'd love to see Harry get a shot. "
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Hate to see a guy who was such a monster in HS completely drop off. Would love to see him get paid.

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490. "see this is why kd needs to stop going back and forth with randos."
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https://twitter.com/DaKidGowie/status/1679558001550675968

you give folks credibility and equal footing with you in a debate over something that you have actual experience in and now everybody is saying you got roasted by a comedian whose built like a jelly bean and never played pro ball a day in his life.

shit was funny tho lol.

  

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492. "I like dude as a comedian but he needs to stfu"
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Durant is much better at basketball than dude is at comedy

KD needs to cut that hair tho.. lol.

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493. "Durant needs to not feed the trolls"
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For the life of me I’ll never understand why some celebrities engage with random people online.

  

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494. "nah, you got this all fucked up. KD hurt that man bad."
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you don't make a 5 minute video that clearly took a significant amount of research unless you are PRESSED.

and for it just to be shit KD knows (hoop stats) or that he's heard a million times from better critics (ring chasing, etc).

smh. dude LOST.

  

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on Gilbert Arena's pod earlier this week apparently


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“Is it hard to diet at your age?” Arenas asked. “Be honest.”

“Since it’s you, I’ll be real,” Williamson said. “That s–t hard, it’s hard man. Like, you’re 20, 22, got a lot of money — it feels like all the money in the world — man, it is hard.

“But I’m at that point now, where, because of certain things, I’m putting back wisdom around me… putting people around me with wisdom, put me on game to certain things and just go from there.”


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Obviously my header puts a lot of weight (no pun intended...) on what he's saying but paired with his not baby momma's roasting and David Griffin's shade in the exit interviews, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's thinking at least as much about food and sex as he is basketball. And he wouldn't be the first big man with money to limit his career over his stomach and dick.


I really hope he's actually taking steps with his diet because he's such a fucking menace when he's at full force, and I still can't fully describe how disappointing it was for him to get hurt literally four days before I saw him take on KD and Kyrie in New Orleans back in January. It was still such a fun game, but the Pelicans are on a totally different level when Zion's right. Like, I'd hate for him to get traded somewhere else, too - the way that dude plays is exactly the way that city bullies you into a good time.



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