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allStah
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"Scott Rolen is not a Hall of Famer "


          

He was a good player, not a great one. The Hall of Fame is a legacy space, where
the greatest players to ever play the game are inducted into it.

He will be the first player inducted into the hall with fewer than 9,000 plate appearances.
He was an injury prone player with great defensive stats and mediocre offensive stats.

He never led in any offensive category, batted .220 in 39 postseason games, and
he broke down as a player once he turned 30.

He was a solid, good ball player, but nothing special.

Meanwhile, Pete Rose still isn’t in the hall, nor is Clemens, nor is Bonds, nor is Arod.

Rolen got 1 out of 10 votes in his first year on the ballot. No player had ever made the
hall who received less than 15% of the vote in their first year on the ballot.

So how in the hell did Rolen shoot up over the years to get 3/4ths of the votes?


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Don't really disagree with you.
Jan 24th 2023
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I couldnt even remember who he was at first. Ha
Jan 24th 2023
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Andruw Jones should have been in the HOF
Jan 24th 2023
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      Yes! Forgot about Jones. He was a BEAST
Jan 27th 2023
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Agreed
Jan 24th 2023
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And the fact that David Ortiz is in the hall, who
Jan 24th 2023
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writers are just squinting at anybody that could be a fringe HOF candida...
Jan 25th 2023
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basically…
Jan 25th 2023
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RE: writers are just squinting at anybody that could be a fringe HOF can...
Jan 25th 2023
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They see me Rolen / They hatin’
Jan 26th 2023
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Lol
Jan 26th 2023
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Co-Sign n/m
Feb 03rd 2023
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Rolen gonna be enshrined in Cooperstown wearing a St. Louis cap. GOOD!
Feb 04th 2023
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      Mets Ain’t Won Shit Since A Crack Rock First Got Hot, EVEN BETTER! n/m
Feb 05th 2023
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           My man! (c) Dat 'Zel
Feb 05th 2023
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Buck
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1. "Don't really disagree with you."
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Which is weird. But yeah...I guess you could make the case stronger with the Gold Gloves, basically the Brooks Robinson case, but even there, Robinson had 16 of them. I don't know. He wouldn't get my vote.

  

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2. "I couldnt even remember who he was at first. Ha"
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I saw Gary Sheffield and Manny Ramirez were on the list of people that got passed over. Id rather watch them a million times over than ever look up the name Scott Rolen

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allStah
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3. "Andruw Jones should have been in the HOF"
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Tue Jan-24-23 09:17 PM by allStah

          

He has the defensive stats and the offensive stats….
He became injury in his 30s due to throwing his body all over
the place as a centerfielder.

No way can they continue to leave Andruw Jones out.

3rd the greatest defensive CF to ever play the game

Same level as Mays and Griffey.

1. Griffey
2. Mays
3.Jones

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11. "Yes! Forgot about Jones. He was a BEAST"
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4. "Agreed"
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At this point, I’m not gonna be up in arms about any of these choices. Once Bonds and Clemens were officially passed over last year (and on the special ballot this year), I just gotta laugh at this stuff honestly. Still, seeing Rolen get in while A-Rod and Manny are languishing in the 30-40% range is absurd.

If it had been ONE ballot where the writers made a statement about roids, fine, but to continually punish almost all the greats of an era for a thing MLB knew they were doing (and didn’t care) is stupid.

Fuck Pete Rose though. He made his bed.

  

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allStah
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5. "And the fact that David Ortiz is in the hall, who "
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tested positive for PEDs during a MLB testing survey, is madness!

There was no policy against steroids…zero.

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6. "writers are just squinting at anybody that could be a fringe HOF candida..."
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as long as they aren't one of those dreaded PED users -- oh wait, they've elected them too -- I mean, one of those PED users they don't like

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7. "basically…"
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>as long as they aren't one of those dreaded PED users -- oh
>wait, they've elected them too -- I mean, one of those PED
>users they don't like

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8. "RE: writers are just squinting at anybody that could be a fringe HOF can..."
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>as long as they aren't one of those dreaded PED users -- oh
>wait, they've elected them too -- I mean, one of those PED
>users they don't like

I was about to say, Ortiz tested positive but the media liked him. Both Bagwell and Biggio had whispers around them their entire careers. Hell that entire organization at the time did.

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9. "They see me Rolen / They hatin’ "
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Patrollin' and tryna catch me roidin’ dirty

Tryna catch me roidin' dirty
Tryna catch me roidin' dirty
Tryna catch me roidin' dirty
Tryna catch me roidin' dirty

Walk-up music's so loud
I'm swangin'
They hopin' that they gon' catch me roidin' dirty

Tryna catch me roidin' dirty
Tryna catch me roidin' dirty
Tryna catch me roidin' dirty
Tryna catch me roidin' dirty

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10. "Lol"
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12. "Co-Sign n/m"
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13. "Rolen gonna be enshrined in Cooperstown wearing a St. Louis cap. GOOD!"
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14. "Mets Ain’t Won Shit Since A Crack Rock First Got Hot, EVEN BETTER! n/m"
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15. "My man! (c) Dat 'Zel"
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what up, Bomb?

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