There were a few huge fights that never panned out, but all in all, 2022 wasn't a bad year for boxing IMO. Here's the current schedule of "big" fights, along with my thoughts.

Jan 7: Gervonta Davis vs. Hector Garcia
- Not mad for Tank taking a "tune up," but a little disappointed that he continues to bring people up or down to his weight class to fight. Other than that, a lot of "names" are fighting people they should beat. Didn't realize Lamont Peterson was making a comeback till I checked the schedule just now.

Jan 21: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith
- I guess, lol. No disrespect to Smith, but Eubank seems content to ride out his career fighting this level of competition.

Jan 28: Artur Beterbiev vs. Anthony Yarde
- Hopefully this sets up the fight we all wanna see at 175.

Feb 4: Amanda Serrano vs. Erika Cruz, Alycia Baumgardner vs. Elhem Mekhaled
- Solid ladies' card. We SHOULD get two undisputeds outta this. Wouldn't be mad at seeing either winner fight Katie Taylor.

Feb 11: Rey Vargas vs. O'Shaquie Foster, Subriel Matias vs. Jeremias Ponce
- This has potential to be a good one. Rey Vargas is very good, but his size has been the advantage at lower weight classes.

Feb 25: Adrien Broner vs. Ivan Redkach, Tevin Farmer vs. Mickey Bey
- Lmao ... I think the biggest intrigue will be to see what weight this ends up at since AB ballooned up in weight again. Wouldn't be surprised if he loses this

Mar 4: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall

Mar 18: Eimantas Stanionis vs. Vergil Ortiz Jr.
- Imagine taking step aside money so Spence can fight Ugas only to be matched against fucking Vergil a year later before you ever get your title shot. Anyways, this should be GOOD.

Apr 8: Jesse "Bam" Rodriguez vs. Cristian Gonzalez

Not technically official but "should" happen:
- Jermell Charlo vs. Tim Tszyu (will be rescheduled once Charlo's hand heals)
- Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia
- Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk
- Errol Spence Jr. vs. Keith Thurman

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because of Errol's accident. I think it's kinda funny he's gonna fight this dude he vowed to never fight (since Keith wouldn't give him a fight when he was on the ascent and looking for it), but I have long wished to see him smash Thurman, who I've always felt was overrated.


Somewhat curious about Tank's mental state coming into this fight with Hector Garcia. He, very publicly, got into it with his BM the other week and was talking about he didn't even wanna fight anymore. Wondering if he's gotten his head straight since he was somewhat "vindicated" in this instance.

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>because of Errol's accident. I think it's kinda funny he's
>gonna fight this dude he vowed to never fight (since Keith
>wouldn't give him a fight when he was on the ascent and
>looking for it), but I have long wished to see him smash
>Thurman, who I've always felt was overrated.

I think he probably views Thurman as the most low risk, high reward out of all of his mandatories. From a boxing standpoint, Thurman fucked himself by coming back, looking average against Barrios, and then not remaining active at all in 2022. He's gonna beat the shit out of him either way.

If Bud is wise, he signs a 2-3 fight deal with PBC ASAP. First fight would be with a lesser fighter in April, second fight would be with Spence in November, and third would either be a rematch or Charlo (only mentioning that since he continues to call him out, but realistically the timeline doesn't align). But seriously, everyone he wants to fight and calls out is PBC, and although he got paid by BLK Prime, the numbers didn't do anything and he lost leverage. He probably doesn't and won't see it, but he's better off just being a fighter vs. trying to be a free agent promoter.

>Somewhat curious about Tank's mental state coming into this
>fight with Hector Garcia. He, very publicly, got into it with
>his BM the other week and was talking about he didn't even
>wanna fight anymore. Wondering if he's gotten his head
>straight since he was somewhat "vindicated" in this instance.

I'm curious as well, but I think he was in his feelings at that moment (rightfully so) and will have it together by then, even if it shows up early in the fight. Garcia is a good fighter at 130, but at 135 he's a low risk enough tune up for Tank to be able to afford to lose the first 4-6 rounds.

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Errol said "announcement soon" and then the accident was like a week later, maybe two. And he's been relatively quiet since then. Wondering if he actually did pick up some injuries from that.

My brain is so used to typing Spence/Crawford, but I'm not even thinking about that fight right now...

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Can't access twitter from the office, but IIRC he tweeted April either earlier this week or late last week. So if that's true, if anything, I imagine it may have pushed it back a month or so from original plans.

>Errol said "announcement soon" and then the accident was like
>a week later, maybe two. And he's been relatively quiet since
>then. Wondering if he actually did pick up some injuries from
>that.
>
>My brain is so used to typing Spence/Crawford, but I'm not
>even thinking about that fight right now...

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meaning a year since the Ugas fight. I really wish the top guys were fighting more often than they are these days. Is twice a year really so much?

Just saw that Boots is fighting this weekend. I'll be tuned in for that.

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... and how it's profitable. I can't fully recall, but they only had what, 2 PPVs last yr (Tank vs. Rolly and Wilder vs. Helenius)?

Looking forward to watching Boots as well. I'm looking to see how Andrade sets himself up at 168 as well now that he's on the "right side of the street"

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Big names have faded or are fading - and after us 30-50 year olds, there aren't honestly a lot of boxing fans that aren't also boxers themselves. I don't know how you recover it at this point. There are still enough guys our age who have boxing fandom in our blood, but once we goes, so does the sport.

None of the kids my sons age know any of the names above, but even though they don't train MMA or BJJ, some of them still know UFC names like Izzy, Kamaru, Masvidal, Jon Jones, etc.

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Even names with crossover appeal like Tank aren't doing crazy PPV numbers

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EA Sports plays a huge role in a sports popularity and the fact they dropped boxing for UFC was a huge alarming red flag

I honestly blame Al Haymon and PBC. Top Rank will work with others to make fights happen . Al Haymon only wants PBC fighters to fight each other


>Big names have faded or are fading - and after us 30-50 year
>olds, there aren't honestly a lot of boxing fans that aren't
>also boxers themselves. I don't know how you recover it at
>this point. There are still enough guys our age who have
>boxing fandom in our blood, but once we goes, so does the
>sport.
>
>None of the kids my sons age know any of the names above, but
>even though they don't train MMA or BJJ, some of them still
>know UFC names like Izzy, Kamaru, Masvidal, Jon Jones, etc.

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the sport is so brutal that maybe it's for the best. i hope something like kickboxing can take its place eventually. as much as i appreciate the art of grappling i do not enjoy it at all as a spectator.

Really looking forward to that one too

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>Really looking forward to that one too

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Like for real this time, lol

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And I can’t justify paying Spence / Crawford prices

Beterbiev Bivol (if it happens ) will prob happen in Saudi Arabia or North Korea if Eddie Hearn has his way so that’s out of thr question lol

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>We'll see where it goes down

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He hit Garcia so hard that the man couldn't see. Not a cut, not swelling, punched his head so hard that the eyes didn't work. The hell?
It was really annoying how they wouldn't show the replay of the shot that almost sent Garcia to the canvas in the 8th... looked like he got hit and was going down before he caught himself in a squat.


And even though Boots won his fight by a fair margin, you can't say his stock didn't fall after this one. Seems pretty clear that those calls for him to fight Spence or Crawford were a bit premature. He's got work to do.

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He's #2 in the WBO (behind Vergil) for Crawford's belt, #1 in the IBF, #3 in the WBC (behind Thurman and Vergil, and tbh I'm not sure how Thurman is ranked that high in 2023), so by nature of the sanctioning bodies, there's really no one else for him to fight

Chukhadzhian was #4 in the IBF and the highest ranking he could've reasonably fought since Vergil is going the WBA route, and that fight was for the interim IBF. So it's like ... unless Thurman or Ugas voluntarily fights him with nothing to gain for themselves, there is no one else (ranking wise) for him to fight EXCEPT Crawford or Spence.

Realistically, he's gonna have to wait for one or both of them to move up in weight and/or vacate the belts to fight for a title, but until then he's kinda stuck fighting Chukhadzhian type fighters it seems. Ellis losing to Villa was probably the worst thing to happen for him in the interim, cause he could've at least fought him while he waits for IBF to make him Spence's mandatory, but now Ellis will probably rematch Villa

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Seems like a few years ago there were a lot more names and fights to be made in the division.

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I feel like in terms of names, 135 and/or 140 has the potential to become what 147 once was

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Umm... why?

And apparently after that Errol will have 60 days to finalize a fight with Crawford. If they can't make it work, he'll have to face the winner of Stanionis/Ortiz or vacate.


https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/35420201/sources-errol-spence-keith-thurman-finalizing-april-fight

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I’m saying 7th round TKO


>Umm... why?
>
>And apparently after that Errol will have 60 days to finalize
>a fight with Crawford. If they can't make it work, he'll have
>to face the winner of Stanionis/Ortiz or vacate.
>
>
>https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/35420201/sources-errol-spence-keith-thurman-finalizing-april-fight

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I wanna say 7th... but I'll go with the 8th

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Idk if I've ever seen no shit like that before

>Umm... why?
>
>And apparently after that Errol will have 60 days to finalize
>a fight with Crawford. If they can't make it work, he'll have
>to face the winner of Stanionis/Ortiz or vacate.
>
>
>https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/35420201/sources-errol-spence-keith-thurman-finalizing-april-fight

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Did NOT see this coming (so soon at least)

https://www.boxingscene.com/stephen-fulton-naoya-inoue-122-pound-championship-clash-targeted-late-spring-japan--171894

A pound-for-pound showdown is on the horizon.

BoxingScene.com has learned that a deal has been reached for a Stephen Fulton-Naoya Inoue championship fight. Fulton will defend his unified WBC/WBO junior featherweight crown versus Inoue, who recently vacated his undisputed bantamweight championship in pursuit of winning a title in a fourth weight division.

The exact date and location are to be determined, with a targeted time frame of later this spring (May or June) in Japan. The stellar matchup will mark the fourth straight in his home country for Inoue, while Fulton will fight outside the U.S. for the first time in his eight-plus year pro career.

Both fighters deserve credit not only for accepting the fight but taking their respective careers into their own hands to ensure that a deal was reached without the sport’s usual distractions that come with matchups of this magnitude.

Philadelphia’s Fulton (21-0, 8KOs) has long called for blockbuster fights since his arrival on the title stage, specifically calling for showdowns with Inoue and fellow unified 122-pound titlist Murodjon ‘MJ’ Akhmadaliev (11-0, 8KOs) who holds the WBA/IBF belts. Both fighters have remained on his radar well after his most recent performance, when he dominated former WBA/IBF titlist Danny Roman over twelve one-sided rounds last June 4 in Minneapolis.

The win was the lone fight of 2022 for Fulton following a Fighter of the Year-level 2021 campaign that saw him dethrone a pair of unbeaten titlists. Fulton handily outpointed Angelo Leo to win the WBO junior featherweight title in January 2021, followed by a majority-decision win over then-unbeaten WBC titlist Brandon Figueroa in their November 2021 Fight of Year-worthy affair.

Fulton’s name resurfaced last November during the annual WBC convention, when it was revealed that a discussed rematch with Figueroa (23-1-1, 18KOs) would come with the interim WBC featherweight title at stake. The ruling allowed for a four-man tournament to be ordered at junior featherweight, with Azat Hovhannisyan-Luis Nery and Ra’eese Aleem-Alan David Picasso as the suggested semifinal eliminators.

Neither fight has yet to materialize, nor were final terms ever reached for Fulton-Figueroa II despite reports from other outlets suggesting a February 25 date for their rematch.

Instead, Fulton is prepared to make his third overall title defense and second as the unified champion.

It comes immediately after Inoue (26-0, 23KOs) abdicated the bantamweight throne after making history for his native Japan. The longtime pound-for-pound entrant from Yokohama became the first Japanese—and Asian—boxer to claim undisputed champion status in the multi-belt era following his eleventh-round knockout of England’s Paul Butler. Inoue entered their December 13 unification clash as the lineal/WBC/WBA bantamweight champion and left the ring with Butler’s WBO strap in tow.

As BoxingScene.com reported prior to Inoue’s repeat win over Donaire in their three-belt unification last June, the plan for the three-division champ was always to stay at bantamweight just long enough to get that final chip. He honored that commitment with his announcement on January 13—exactly one month to the day of making history—of his plan to conquer the junior featherweight division.

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According to Oscar.

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Idk if it was her wanting to give the fans a show, but her just throwing punches till she gets gassed, then throwing again when she could've used more uppercuts to keep Cruz off of her ... idk man, I think Taylor will be able to do more with the 10 rds of data

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>Idk if it was her wanting to give the fans a show, but her
>just throwing punches till she gets gassed, then throwing
>again when she could've used more uppercuts to keep Cruz off
>of her ... idk man, I think Taylor will be able to do more
>with the 10 rds of data

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Nah but I woulda watched those anyway, plus I'm somewhat familiar with Richardson Hitchins from when he used to spar Shakur in Alexandria, so wanted to see how he was looking

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...for cocaine..."

LMAO...Caleb Plant really got under Benavidez skin with that one..

https://youtu.be/ZHZGtbKFr8Q?t=492

and to make matters worse... see what happens when you click on

www.davidbenavidez.com


this fight is going to be epic. im a big fan of both fighters...Caleb either wins on points or David gets a late stoppage, I'm seriously thinking of going to this fight.




>There were a few huge fights that never panned out, but all
>in all, 2022 wasn't a bad year for boxing IMO. Here's the
>current schedule of "big" fights, along with my thoughts.
>
>Jan 7: Gervonta Davis vs. Hector Garcia
>- Not mad for Tank taking a "tune up," but a little
>disappointed that he continues to bring people up or down to
>his weight class to fight. Other than that, a lot of "names"
>are fighting people they should beat. Didn't realize Lamont
>Peterson was making a comeback till I checked the schedule
>just now.
>
>Jan 21: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith
>- I guess, lol. No disrespect to Smith, but Eubank seems
>content to ride out his career fighting this level of
>competition.
>
>Jan 28: Artur Beterbiev vs. Anthony Yarde
>- Hopefully this sets up the fight we all wanna see at 175.
>
>Feb 4: Amanda Serrano vs. Erika Cruz, Alycia Baumgardner vs.
>Elhem Mekhaled
>- Solid ladies' card. We SHOULD get two undisputeds outta
>this. Wouldn't be mad at seeing either winner fight Katie
>Taylor.
>
>Feb 11: Rey Vargas vs. O'Shaquie Foster, Subriel Matias vs.
>Jeremias Ponce
>- This has potential to be a good one. Rey Vargas is very
>good, but his size has been the advantage at lower weight
>classes.
>
>Feb 25: Adrien Broner vs. Ivan Redkach, Tevin Farmer vs.
>Mickey Bey
>- Lmao ... I think the biggest intrigue will be to see what
>weight this ends up at since AB ballooned up in weight again.
>Wouldn't be surprised if he loses this
>
>Mar 4: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall
>
>Mar 18: Eimantas Stanionis vs. Vergil Ortiz Jr.
>- Imagine taking step aside money so Spence can fight Ugas
>only to be matched against fucking Vergil a year later before
>you ever get your title shot. Anyways, this should be GOOD.
>
>Apr 8: Jesse "Bam" Rodriguez vs. Cristian Gonzalez
>
>Not technically official but "should" happen:
>- Jermell Charlo vs. Tim Tszyu (will be rescheduled once
>Charlo's hand heals)
>- Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia
>- Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk
>- Errol Spence Jr. vs. Keith Thurman
>
>Feel free to add thoughts, comments, etc.
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Never been big a Plant, but goddamn he comes off as way more likeable than David and his dad. Almost makes me want to root for him...

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So we have:

April 1 - AJ vs. Franklin (interested to see how AJ looks after a Derrick James camp and Franklin is solid)
Ramirez vs. Dogboe (solid matchup, Ramirez beat Shakur for the gold in 2016)
April 8 - Stevenson vs. Yoshino
April 22 - Davis vs. Garcia
April 29 - Ortiz vs. Stanionis, Fury vs. Usyk (not finalized but reportedly close)
May 6 - Canelo vs. Ryder
May 7 - Fulton vs. Inoue
May 20 - Haney vs. Loma, (Katie) Taylor vs. Cameron (better matchup than Taylor vs. Serrano 2 IMO)

Look man ... I know boxing has (deservedly) received criticism for a min now, but I have no complaints right now

Also, Tszyu's win over Harrison made me more excited for the eventual Tszyu/Charlo fight

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even though Plant Benadvidez is gonna be great

there's also the Josh Taylor Teofimo Lopez fight in June ...Curious to see how Lopez holds up at 140 vs a legit champion (although I still think Taylor and Catterall was a draw and he needs to run that back to silence his critics forever)

and major respect to Stephen Fulton for going all the way to Japan to make his mark, i love when American boxers go overseas and snatch belts
(errol, devin and now Cool Boy)


That Harrison Tszyu fight was ZZZ, neither guy really impressed me, I think a fully motivated and fit Charlo would KO Tszyu and retain his belts , easily.





>So we have:
>
>April 1 - AJ vs. Franklin (interested to see how AJ looks
>after a Derrick James camp and Franklin is solid)
>Ramirez vs. Dogboe (solid matchup, Ramirez beat Shakur for the
>gold in 2016)
>April 8 - Stevenson vs. Yoshino
>April 22 - Davis vs. Garcia
>April 29 - Ortiz vs. Stanionis, Fury vs. Usyk (not finalized
>but reportedly close)
>May 6 - Canelo vs. Ryder
>May 7 - Fulton vs. Inoue
>May 20 - Haney vs. Loma, (Katie) Taylor vs. Cameron (better
>matchup than Taylor vs. Serrano 2 IMO)
>
>Look man ... I know boxing has (deservedly) received criticism
>for a min now, but I have no complaints right now
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He's a hell of a fighter, but his boxing business acumen has been ... questionable at best. This even dates back to his decision to re-sign with Top Rank back in 2018 or so when there was clearly no one on that side of the street for him to fight. Even Pacquiao jumped ship and got the Broner, Thurman, and Ugas fights

For this fight, I still don't understand him bringing the possibility of these "hedge fund investors" without ever revealing who they were or which network it was show. It just seemed like he was all over the place

>even though Plant Benadvidez is gonna be great
>
>there's also the Josh Taylor Teofimo Lopez fight in June
>...Curious to see how Lopez holds up at 140 vs a legit
>champion (although I still think Taylor and Catterall was a
>draw and he needs to run that back to silence his critics
>forever)

I felt bad for Catterall that he basically had to waste a year waiting for Taylor's injuries, and the moment he takes a stay busy fight, Taylor gives Teo the shot. I'm not sure if Teo even believes he's like that at 140, but I guess we'll see

>and major respect to Stephen Fulton for going all the way to
>Japan to make his mark, i love when American boxers go
>overseas and snatch belts
>(errol, devin and now Cool Boy)

Agree

>That Harrison Tszyu fight was ZZZ, neither guy really
>impressed me, I think a fully motivated and fit Charlo would
>KO Tszyu and retain his belts , easily.

I am personally more intrigued by Charlo/Fundora, but doesn't look like we'll get around this one so we'll see what happens lol

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Usyk has never fought at home, which means he became undisputed at Cruiser and unified Heavy ALL ON THE ROAD, and Fury wants us to believe Usyk is the problem in negotiations? I wish Fury would just retire and never return.

At least we still have Ortiz vs Stanionis on that day tho.

Inoue/Fulton was postponed due to an Inoue hand injury as well.

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The fight went more or less how you'd think but it was impressive from both guys. Plant has got a fucking chin. And he's really fast at, but to keep that pace up for 12 rounds is an impossible task. Benavidez didn't show us anything new. Didn't have to.

I hope that we get Benavidez v Canelo, but I can't see David giving Canelo too many problems.

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>The fight went more or less how you'd think but it was
>impressive from both guys. Plant has got a fucking chin. And
>he's really fast at, but to keep that pace up for 12 rounds is
>an impossible task. Benavidez didn't show us anything new.
>Didn't have to.


It's impossible for Plant, because he has gas tank issues. Always slows down around the 8th/9th. Did the same with Canelo. I was kinda puzzled why Breadman didn't teach him at least a few tricks for inside fighting instead of just initiating the clinch. He gave J-Rock an entire inside fighting clinic of a gameplan. Plant needed at least a little of that in this fight. I think it's mainly why he lost.


>I hope that we get Benavidez v Canelo, but I can't see David
>giving Canelo too many problems.

I tend to think Canelo should beat Benavidez, but the way Canelo didn't want to fight for that WBC until Benavidez got stripped makes me think Canelo is worried about something with him. Same way Canelo always avoided Andrade. So idk. Maybe Benavidez is a bigger threat to Canelo than I'm seeing.

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... come September or so. The Canelo I saw vs. GGG wasn't the same Canelo. Could've been the hand injury, could've been an accumulation of the wars ... but idk

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Colbert redeemed himself as far as ppl saying he had no heart in the Garcia fight, but I thought he lost. A couple of people I respect had him winning the fight tho. I liked that he bit down and fought back, but he was getting beat up.

Seniesa Estrada unified Minimunweight with a dominating win over Tina Rupprecht. A win over Yokasta Valle would make her undisputed there. Says she wants to be undisputed in 3 divisions. That means she would evenutally have to see my girl Gabriela Celeste Alaniz at Flyweight, provided they both keep winning. That would be a HELLUVA fight.

I didn't get to see the Ramirez/Commey fight, but Ramirez stopped him in the 11th. Hope he doesn't turn down the Prograis fight again.

Hitokiri posted about Benavidez/Plant above.

Next week, Anthony Joshua returns in a fight he better win against Jermaine Franklin. Joshua is now trained by Derrick James (trainer of Errol Spence, Jermell Charlo, and Frank Martin). Lets see how he looks in their first fight together.
Robeisy Ramirez will beat up on Isaac Dogboe as well.

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well... if you have a DAZN subscription.

This is Katie's first timing fighting at home (Ireland). The Serrano fight fell through, so she chose CHANTELLE FUCKING CAMERON as the replacement, which is a more dangerous fight for her in terms of preserving her 0. Cameron just beat Jessica McCaskill to become undisputed at 140. They're fighting at 140 for Cameron's titles. Should Katie win, she'll be undisputed in 2 weight classes. I like Cameron more as a fighter, and have been wanting her to get the Taylor fight for years. Don't be surprised if she wins.

Terri Harper, who recently jumped from 135 to 154 and won a title, will be facing Cecelia Braekhus, a women's boxing legend at the tail end of her career. Braekhus took a long layoff after losing twice to (guess who) Jessica McCaskill. I'm wondering what Braekhus will look like after the time off. I'm thinking time has caught up to her and Harper will win tho.

Yet another big women's fight on the card is Cherneka Johnson vs Ellie Scotney. Scotney is a highly tauted amateur with only 6 fights, being pushed heavily by Matchroom. Johnson is 15-1, very skilled fighter from Australia who just outclassed fellow veteran Aussie, Susie Ramadan. We'll find out if Scotney is the goods or not.

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About Taylor/Cameron than Taylor/Serrano 2

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It's a much better fight. Cameron is more skilled and will make for a much more interesting fight for my boxing brain lol. I think she brings more to the table than Serrano... MUCH better footwork and better iq, knows how to walk you into shots (the McCaskill fight was a beautiful display of that, but McCaskill isn't the most skilled fighter). Very excited to see if she can outwit Taylor, as I don't think Katie is the most cerebral fighter herself.

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>It's a much better fight. Cameron is more skilled and will
>make for a much more interesting fight for my boxing brain
>lol. I think she brings more to the table than Serrano... MUCH
>better footwork and better iq, knows how to walk you into
>shots (the McCaskill fight was a beautiful display of that,
>but McCaskill isn't the most skilled fighter). Very excited to
>see if she can outwit Taylor, as I don't think Katie is the
>most cerebral fighter herself.

Almost goes without saying, but not only is Cameron more skilled, but she doesn't have to move up two weight classes to make it happen. Serrano did AMAZING for a fighter moving up the way she did, but based on where she is, it just seems like Taylor has more room to make adjustments than her, which wouldn't bode well for her

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Cameron/Taylor is more even size matchup. They're both above their natural weight at 140, so they should both be really comfortable in there.

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First of all, Rayo didn’t get robbed , that was a draw in the most literal way possible

Outside of dropping Colbert in the first round , he really didn’t hit him with anything memorable

If you look a Rayos face he was busted up , bloodied , swollen eyes etc , I don’t think it was as clear of a robbery , the crowd was 90% Latino so naturally they were vocal in their displeasure of the outcome

As for Plant , I was really disappointed in his game plan and even more disappointed in Kenny Bayless for allowing it to flourish

His game plan all night was to outpoint David to a win and escape by any means necessary. There were times when Benavidez was imploring him to commit to an exchange instead of the clinch and run game plan. I didn’t see any courage or any initiative on Caleb’s part to actually WIN the fight and take back control once David started catching him in the 4th and 5th rounds with HARD body shots. He basically got on his skates and initiated his clinching game plan .

Also he needs to do something about that weak ass Philly shell defense he uses bc it didn’t help him at all 😂. Benavidez arms tore through that like a wet paper bag.

All build up long we heard Caleb talk about his new found power but all I saw was pitty patt punches that didn’t do any damage .

There were some moments in the 6th round where I thought Benavidez would KO him but Caleb had JUST enough gas ⛽️ to get out of the way 😂 otherwise it was curtains

An early stoppage by Caleb’s former or bc of the head but wouldn’t have surprised me but I had David up 7- 2 (or 3) by then

Call me crazy but I still don’t think he has enough to beat Canelo , I worry about his frame taking body shots from Canelo who can ACTUALLY pop 💥 unlike Plant

But Benavidez said he sparred Beterbiev Bivol GGG and says he had ZERO problems with any of them 🤷🏽‍♂️

Either ways , the 168 division had a lot of exciting storylines and up and comers to challenge Benavidez


I still think he’s better off at 174 though


Can’t wait for Haney Loma



>There were a few huge fights that never panned out, but all
>in all, 2022 wasn't a bad year for boxing IMO. Here's the
>current schedule of "big" fights, along with my thoughts.
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>Jan 7: Gervonta Davis vs. Hector Garcia
>- Not mad for Tank taking a "tune up," but a little
>disappointed that if he continues to bring people up or down to
>his weight class to fight. Other than that, a lot of "names"
>are fighting people they should beat. Didn't realize Lamont
>Peterson was making a comeback till I checked the schedule
>just now.
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>Jan 21: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith
>- I guess, lol. No disrespect to Smith, but Eubank seems
>content to ride out his career fighting this level of
>competition.
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>Jan 28: Artur Beterbiev vs. Anthony Yarde
>- Hopefully this sets up the fight we all wanna see at 175.
>
>Feb 4: Amanda Serrano vs. Erika Cruz, Alycia Baumgardner vs.
>Elhem Mekhaled
>- Solid ladies' card. We SHOULD get two undisputeds outta
>this. Wouldn't be mad at seeing either winner fight Katie
>Taylor.
>
>Feb 11: Rey Vargas vs. O'Shaquie Foster, Subriel Matias vs.
>Jeremias Ponce
>- This has potential to be a good one. Rey Vargas is very
>good, but his size has been the advantage at lower weight
>classes.
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>Feb 25: Adrien Broner vs. Ivan Redkach, Tevin Farmer vs.
>Mickey Bey
>- Lmao ... I think the biggest intrigue will be to see what
>weight this ends up at since AB ballooned up in weight again.
>Wouldn't be surprised if he loses this
>
>Mar 4: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall
>
>Mar 18: Eimantas Stanionis vs. Vergil Ortiz Jr.
>- Imagine taking step aside money so Spence can fight Ugas
>only to be matched against fucking Vergil a year later before
>you ever get your title shot. Anyways, this should be GOOD.
>
>Apr 8: Jesse "Bam" Rodriguez vs. Cristian Gonzalez
>
>Not technically official but "should" happen:
>- Jermell Charlo vs. Tim Tszyu (will be rescheduled once
>Charlo's hand heals)
>- Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia
>- Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk
>- Errol Spence Jr. vs. Keith Thurman
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>Feel free to add thoughts, comments, etc.
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>As for Plant , I was really disappointed in his game plan and
>even more disappointed in Kenny Bayless for allowing it to
>flourish
>


I'm disappointed in Breadman. Where was the inside fighting he taught J-Rock for the Hurd fight? At least give Plant a backup plan here. Just running up to clinch anytime the gap was closed, was much less than I expected with Breadman in his corner. Idk if he didn't have faith in Plant to execute it, thougtht Benavidez would neurtralize it or just didn't have time to teach it to him, but damn.

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The crowd was 90 percent Mexican / Latino and chanting “Culero” all night 😂 (all that shit talking plant did about cocaine and fat boy jokes really got under their skin) and calling Plant a pussy / coward / maricon/ for all the clinching lol

Caleb entrance was funny “(“Y’all act like y’all never seen a white person before” Eminem interlude and the song he picked was dope “where yo money at “ - nipsey huddle


>>As for Plant , I was really disappointed in his game plan
>and
>>even more disappointed in Kenny Bayless for allowing it to
>>flourish
>>
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>
>I'm disappointed in Breadman. Where was the inside fighting he
>taught J-Rock for the Hurd fight? At least give Plant a backup
>plan here. Just running up to clinch anytime the gap was
>closed, was much less than I expected with Breadman in his
>corner. Idk if he didn't have faith in Plant to execute it,
>thougtht Benavidez would neurtralize it or just didn't have
>time to teach it to him, but damn.

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There’s nobody for him at 175 on the PBC side. So unless Beterbiev, Bivol, either Smith, Yarde, etc are willing to be strong armed in negotiations, he’s better off staying for now

Realistically, I can see him fighting David Morrell next

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It could be that he was simply trying to focus on implementing new information with Derrick James newly in his corner as well, but he appeared to be very "in his head", thinking through every encounter instead of letting it flow and reacting to the moment. We'll see how he progresses with James. One thing is for sure, Eddie Hearn talking about going straight into the Tyson Fury fight sounded like a joke after that performance.

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He looked incredible vs Yoshino. Now let's get him in there with the top guys. Not sure if his power is improving now at 135, or if it's just his precision (he was surgical in there). I don't think anyone at 135 can beat him, but there's definitely great fights to be made. They're talking about him fighting the winner of Haney/Loma, and shit, I'll take winner or loser.

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>Now let's get him in there
>with the top guys.

He chronicled on Twitter on the guys turning him down for a fight. Yoshino was the highest ranked guy who'd take the fight. I remember Isaac Cruz being one of the guys who turned him down.
I agree it'd be great to see him against the Haney/Loma winner.

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Shout out to Israil Madrimov who fought this weekend as well. I love that guys's style and would love to see him against some top guys at 154. Great movement and footwork, pushes through even when he's tired, creative and sneaky punch selection. One of my favorites to watch.

What about Brian Mendoza shocking Sebastian Fundora by KO as well? I liked watching Fundora get beat lol. Move up, dude.

Bam Rodriguez got a UD win that I've yet to see but will watch at some point.

Just read that Jared Anderson will headline a card in June.

Also just found out Claressa Shields returns in June with a rematch vs Hanna Gabriels. Not the most anticipated fight, but I guess the knockdown fucks with Shields.

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>What about Brian Mendoza shocking Sebastian Fundora by KO as
>well? I liked watching Fundora get beat lol. Move up, dude.


"move up dude" = starting to feel that way about Devin Haney. Dude looks so emaciated and sucked in on weigh in days, its clear hes a natural 140.

epitome of a weight bully but i like watching him box so its meh to me. I just wont be surprised when he pitches a shutout vs Loma


>Just read that Jared Anderson will headline a card in June.


I want to see him vs Andy Ruiz

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>"move up dude" = starting to feel that way about Devin Haney.
>Dude looks so emaciated and sucked in on weigh in days, its
>clear hes a natural 140.
>
>epitome of a weight bully but i like watching him box so its
>meh to me. I just wont be surprised when he pitches a shutout
>vs Loma


Will it surprise you if he takes an L to Loma tho? I'm leaning that way.



>>Just read that Jared Anderson will headline a card in June.
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>I want to see him vs Andy Ruiz
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That would be a good fight. Bob Arum is now saying he wants to make Fury vs Ruiz tho.

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>>"move up dude" = starting to feel that way about Devin
>Haney.
>>Dude looks so emaciated and sucked in on weigh in days, its
>>clear hes a natural 140.
>>
>>epitome of a weight bully but i like watching him box so its
>>meh to me. I just wont be surprised when he pitches a
>shutout
>>vs Loma
>
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>Will it surprise you if he takes an L to Loma tho? I'm leaning
>that way.

I dont have a dog in this fight (I like Haney but he isnt a favorite. I dont really have a favorite boxer, I just want good fights)

I know being undisputed has been Lomas goal for years and hes been desperate for a chance to get another crack at since the Teofimo Lopez loss (which could have been a draw honestly imo)

If Haney loses I wouldnt be surprised if he moves up to 140 immediately and tries to get the winner of Teofimo/Taylor, (or stays at 135 and tries to get winner of Davis/Garcia for a big payday)


(I wonder if there is a rematch clause)


>>>Just read that Jared Anderson will headline a card in June.
>>
>>
>>I want to see him vs Andy Ruiz
>>
>
>
>That would be a good fight. Bob Arum is now saying he wants to
>make Fury vs Ruiz tho.


Oh that would be a slaughter lol. Andy would get his ass whooped. Yikes.

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>I dont have a dog in this fight (I like Haney but he isnt a
>favorite. I dont really have a favorite boxer, I just want
>good fights)
>
>I know being undisputed has been Lomas goal for years and hes
>been desperate for a chance to get another crack at since the
>Teofimo Lopez loss (which could have been a draw honestly
>imo)


Yeah, Loma's hunger and longing here causes me to think we might see a great performance. I've always thought Loma beats Devin anyway (although the gap may have closed slightly due to Devin' youth, size, and gaining some experience). I always wanted Devin to get the fight nontheless, because I think it'll be interesting watching Loma's work around the jab & grab of a younger, bigger, rather athletic guy.

>If Haney loses I wouldnt be surprised if he moves up to 140
>immediately and tries to get the winner of Teofimo/Taylor, (or
>stays at 135 and tries to get winner of Davis/Garcia for a big
>payday)
>
>
>(I wonder if there is a rematch clause)



I'm guessing there's no rematch clause since Devin's dad has stated they're a free agent after this fight. That's actually another reason to lean toward Loma, because Top Rank would definitely rather those belts stay at Top Rank.



>>That would be a good fight. Bob Arum is now saying he wants
>to
>>make Fury vs Ruiz tho.
>
>
>Oh that would be a slaughter lol. Andy would get his ass
>whooped. Yikes.
>

Definitely

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with Shadasian Green being the mandatory for the winner.

Oh.My.Fucking.God

The WBC recently ordered Franchon to defend against Shadasia, but apparently Franchon was already finalizing a bout with Marshall.

I wanted to see Shadasia Green fight Savannah Marshall first. This is even better, because I wanted to see Franchon fight Savannah as well.

Shadasia is a beast. Hits very hard and is athletic. She does things in the ring you mostly see from guys. Her chance is coming.

But this Franchon vs Savannah fight is going to be GREAT. The style of these two women is going to make MAGIC in the ring. Be surprising if it goes the distance. Supposedly set for June.

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Zhang, an Olympic Silver medalist, showed Joe Joyce why defense and boxing skill matter. Joyce couldn't get out of the way of the southpaw straight left and ended up falling victim to a doctor stoppage in the 6th from right eye swelling. Zhang is now mandatory WBO challenger. Might be facing Usyk if Fury keeps ducking.

Ernesto Mercado stopped Hank Lundy in ONE ROUND. Shit was just ugly. Beat up on the guy. Mercado is on the scene at 140.

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this is an nice appetizer for the MAIN EVENT next month betweeen Loma and Haney

and I'm tempted to actually order the fight and not just watch it on BEASTTV (where I watch all PPV events for free https://beasttviptv.com/)

Even though there are zero belts and its at a funky ass catchweight, the its a dream matchup and both of them are the best opposition that either have faced.

There's absolutely zero point in betting on Davis as hes favored in every area, so naturally I'm putting 500 on Ryan to prove that he isnt some social media / influencer boxer.

Tank is Tank, but until Ellerbe puts him in the same ring as Haney or Shakur or anybody LIVE, he'll never get his full credit but they both seem to be ok with making a ton of money and ignoring the belts altogether.

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absolutely no surprises. I love that fights like this bring in people who don't normally watch the sport, but it's also annoying seeing/hearing all of the these people talking about... "that was a tko, not a ko," "he could have gotten up," "threw the fight" blah blah blah.

I think they did a great job marketing the fight, the hype train was real and my feed was full of people who I never see talking about boxing giving predictions and reactions. Shit, even on here people who clearly don't watch the sport talking about what "surprised them"

Anyway, this just makes me more excited for Loma/Haney where we've actually got two A-level boxers going against each other instead of an A-level fighter and a B minus hype job.

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>absolutely no surprises. I love that fights like this bring
>in people who don't normally watch the sport, but it's also
>annoying seeing/hearing all of the these people talking
>about... "that was a tko, not a ko," "he could have gotten
>up," "threw the fight" blah blah blah.
>
>I think they did a great job marketing the fight, the hype
>train was real and my feed was full of people who I never see
>talking about boxing giving predictions and reactions. Shit,
>even on here people who clearly don't watch the sport talking
>about what "surprised them"
>
>Anyway, this just makes me more excited for Loma/Haney where
>we've actually got two A-level boxers going against each other
>instead of an A-level fighter and a B minus hype job.
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Sampson Lewkowicz says the contract is already signed.

And really, that seems to be a great match-up. And, I also think that Morrell is incredibly unproven, has shot up the rankings incredibly fast should probably get in there with Dirrell or Andrade before fighting the number 2 in the division. He doesn't even have 10 pro fights!

But, he passes the eye test with flying colors, so if this happens... It'll be a must see match-up.

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he wants.
That's one of those fights that's guaranteed to turn into a war with very little chance of going the distance.

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and would love to for him to get the win. He's got such an visually appealing style... and I agree with you, i would be really, really surprised if it went the distance.

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lol im in a Caribbean resort with my family and this older Black gentleman watching the fight w me (everyone else was watching UFC) said “Canelo been running from Black fighters since he got his ass beat by Floyd and got his revenge by taking it out on Danny Jacobs fresh off 12 rounds vs CANCER”

*wee bey gif*

Been running from Charlo and Benavidez and now he’s saying he won half the rounds vs Bivol and he was injured blah blah

I really hope that fight happens at 168 for all of Canelos belts

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>Been running from Charlo and Benavidez and now he’s saying
>he won half the rounds vs Bivol and he was injured blah blah


We all saw Canelo lose at least 10 rounds in that fight. Oddly, EVERY judge gave him the first 4 rounds and round 9. One point away from a draw on all cards, in a fight was absolutely dominated in. The payola and biased judging helps him preserve his delusions. Bivol has to win 10 rounds again or he could get robbed, which is CRAZY that Canelo only has to win 3 fucking rounds to win or get a draw.

Oh, speaking of him "avoiding black fighters", his trainer Eddy Reynoso was interviewed last month and talked about Oscar Valdez vs Shakur Stevenson. He said Stevenson just jabbed and ran around like the black fighters do. It was in Spanish, but he made a point of saying Black fighters (he used the word Moreno), so we see why Canelo would avoid Black fighters if his trainer doesn't even know how to train for them. It just backfired with Bivol, because Bivol is as slick as a Black fighter, but they overlooked it bc he's not Black lol. Serves them right.


>I really hope that fight happens at 168 for all of Canelos
>belts
>


Man don't get me started. Bivol WANTS the fight at 168 to make it worthwhile. Canelo is claiming "they'll say I drained him and I won't get credit." We all know Canelo doesn't wanna lose those belts. Also, the WBC is saying Bivol can't fight for their title bc he's Russian and Russia is at war w/ Ukraine. They also ordered Beterbiev vs Callum Smith to hold us Bivol fighting Beterbiev. It's like they're doing everything to make Bivol's life hell in the sport since he beat Canelo. It's disgusting.

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After Mayweather, he destroyed James Kirkland, and then had a competitive fight with Danny Jacobs (who was 15 fights back from Cancer). He ran from GGG for years, doesn't seem to want to fight Charlo, Andrade, or Benavidez (who's also Mexican).

Canelo's team has been very "strategic" for a while now with who they'll put him in there with. Personally, I don't want to see him fight Bivol again. Bivol won that fight very convincingly and there's nothing (other than the crooked scorecards Canelo always seems to get) that makes me think another fight would be any different.

I'd like to see him fight Andrade next, and then the winner of Benavidez/Morrell... but I'm not holding my breath.

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I think John Ryder was a bad litmus test for that, because Canelo has mostly been fighting taller guys as of late. Ryder is short and stocky like he is, and he fights in close. It's not so easy to slip punches from a guy like Ryder as it is Daniel Jacobs.
I also think it's been easy to overrate Canelo's skill because of how he's moved his career and picked the right fights, especially lately.
All that said, he looks like the same guy he's been for a while imo.

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People have been citing his lack of head movement and the lack of combination punching, things we have been really accustomed to seeing from Canelo... especially when he was fighting at 160.

Ryder definitely showed he's got heart. I thought he had a round or maybe two left after the knockdown, but he thugged it out, and made it to the end. And not only did he make it to the end, he was tagging Saul a lot more than people thought he should have been able too. Again, Canelo, not being the slick fighter he had been in the past. So, maybe we underestimated Ryder, maybe it's like you're saying about his attributes, or maybe Canelo is declining. Like I said I'm not sure, but I think there's a compelling argument there. The man has 63 professional fights... That could be catching up with him.

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Already got a gift decision against Jackson Marinez, now he's been awarded a completely bullshit stoppage vs Ismael Barroso. Barroso was actually putting hands on Rolly and even dropped him. Any actual boxing fan knows Rolly isn't very good, yet this is the guy PBC was able to market as a great opponent for Tank, who is supposed to be a p4p fighter LOL. That's actually a testament to PBC's brilliant marketing, but if Rolly is a great opponent for you, you don't belong anywhere near a p4p list. Boxers should boycott fighting this guy with the kinds of treachery they pull to award him victories. I'm disgusted.

Jhanibek still looking dangerous out here with that 2nd round stoppage. Them uppercuts and hooks were vicious. I'd been a long-time Andrade supporter, but you can see why he went to 168 instead of fighting that guy.

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Tony Weeks should be investigated and suspended for that shit and Rolly should be stripped, the belt vacant.

Are they really trying to prop up Rolly or is the game to prop up Ryan Garcia? Either way, shit is disgusting.

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