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"NBA - week of 10/31/22"


  

          

Simmons out tonight for the Nets. Where Brooklyn at?? smh

Sacramento
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Charlotte
7:00 PM

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Philadelphia
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Washington
7:00 PM

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Indiana
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Brooklyn
7:30 PM
NBA TV

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Atlanta
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Toronto
7:30 PM

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Detroit
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Milwaukee
8:00 PM

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Memphis
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Utah
9:00 PM

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Houston
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LA
10:30 PM

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Who’s responsible for the garbage Sacramento has on the floor?
Oct 31st 2022
1
Save these bums Heurter!!
Oct 31st 2022
8
Nets are blazing out the gates tonight
Oct 31st 2022
2
Blew a 25 point lead and its now down to 7
Oct 31st 2022
5
      back up to 19 in the 3rd.
Oct 31st 2022
6
      It’s also against a Pacers team expected to finish near the basement.
Oct 31st 2022
9
           pretty much
Nov 01st 2022
20
Way too early for MVP but uh…Giannis.
Oct 31st 2022
3
Yup, Giannis has been an absolute monster thus far
Oct 31st 2022
4
Maxey on another level this year.
Oct 31st 2022
7
Utah, Frank!
Oct 31st 2022
10
They’ve started hot.
Oct 31st 2022
11
How did the Lakers let Bojan get away?
Oct 31st 2022
12
Either that Pelinka sucks or/and Laker tax.
Oct 31st 2022
13
Rob has been wise not to trade Russ and those picks
Nov 01st 2022
17
      Sure. Doesn’t mean he hasn’t been bad for 2 years though.
Nov 01st 2022
18
           I’m specifically addressing why we aren’t landing players right now
Nov 01st 2022
22
Say we got him for a pick. Then what?
Nov 01st 2022
15
The Pistons didn’t use a pick.
Nov 01st 2022
35
      I'm saying that WE would have had to give up a pick.
Nov 01st 2022
59
Another player that's been playing better in this early season
Nov 01st 2022
19
kawhi missing more games due to knee/load management.
Oct 31st 2022
14
He’s done. Also, it’s the Clippers. It’s not like there’s a lega...
Nov 01st 2022
16
pretty on point. plus KW has led multiple teams to chips...AD has not.
Nov 01st 2022
21
Kawhi really gave it all to the Raptors.
Nov 01st 2022
28
The wild Butterfly Effect of that Zaza Pachulia injury.
Nov 01st 2022
29
GOAT TRAJECTORY SF!
Nov 01st 2022
65
Steve Nash just got clapped...wowzers
Nov 01st 2022
23
I thought they’d wait for the 10 game mark , but damn
Nov 01st 2022
24
Bet he’s moonwalking out the door.
Nov 01st 2022
25
fuck yes.
Nov 01st 2022
26
No better gig than fired NBA coach
Nov 01st 2022
27
Would be sadly hilarious if Jacque Vaughn got the gig
Nov 01st 2022
31
what coach outside the organization would want that job?
Nov 01st 2022
32
I guarantee he's happy to be out of there. Ha
Nov 01st 2022
33
LMAO they did that man a solid
Nov 01st 2022
34
He’s been a bad coach, but it’s also a really bad situation.
Nov 01st 2022
36
That being said they should have enough offense (on paper) to win 50
Nov 01st 2022
38
      That assumes that the stars want to run a motion offense.
Nov 01st 2022
46
So much for Joe Tsai's display of "support" for Nash lol
Nov 01st 2022
37
      Are you under the impression that minds don't change?
Nov 01st 2022
39
           "Mutual" usually is a euphemism to finesse the firing
Nov 01st 2022
41
                Can we agree that "usually" and "always" are different things?
Nov 01st 2022
57
                     For sure.
Nov 01st 2022
60
                          No, we just know that Nash is no longer coach of the Nets
Nov 01st 2022
61
                               Fact: Tsai fired Nash with ~93% of the games left in the season
Nov 01st 2022
63
Ime Udoka to Brooklyn! Let’s make it happen!
Nov 01st 2022
30
The last thing the nets need is an undisciplined unprofessional doofus a...
Nov 01st 2022
40
      Welp...ain't gonna be Sam
Nov 01st 2022
45
"How can we clean up the mess of this organization?"
Nov 01st 2022
42
The Nets clearly are in win now and right now mode
Nov 01st 2022
48
I just don't know what Udoka can do to fix that.
Nov 01st 2022
53
      In theory, this move should register some improvement
Nov 01st 2022
55
           The key is absolutely Simmons.
Nov 01st 2022
58
What?
Nov 01st 2022
52
Breaking!! Udoka to be named Nets' coach "in next 24 - 48 hours" LMAO
Nov 01st 2022
43
lol the nba isnt short on drama.
Nov 01st 2022
47
damn usually niggas don’t get to bounce back this fast
Nov 01st 2022
50
I, uh...would NOT want to work for the Nets PR team.
Nov 01st 2022
51
The only people left in the Nets PR department are masochists.
Nov 01st 2022
54
IF YOU GON LET A FUCK COME BETWEEN OUR LOVE.....
Nov 01st 2022
62
.
Nov 01st 2022
44
“What fuck is going on?!” -Stew in Hangover
Nov 01st 2022
49
Damn! The Nets are in fact in discussion with Udoka
Nov 01st 2022
56
Demar is a joy to watch, man.
Nov 01st 2022
64
i always wonder what it is about guys like him
Nov 04th 2022
188
kyrie with the 4 point minimum effort protest game.
Nov 01st 2022
66
Fun ass game to watch.
Nov 01st 2022
67
Real ? … was KD fair to ask for a trade? Is he vindicated some?
Nov 01st 2022
68
      Oh, he's a weirdo. No question.
Nov 01st 2022
70
      fuck no he chose this
Nov 01st 2022
71
           Totally fair, totally fair
Nov 01st 2022
72
yeah im done watching the warriors til christmas.
Nov 01st 2022
69
Quick Jordan Poole update:
Nov 01st 2022
73
Out there gunning and turning that rock over.
Nov 01st 2022
76
makes no damn sense.
Nov 01st 2022
77
      This Anthony Slater tweet says so much:
Nov 01st 2022
79
at this point, i won't be shocked...
Nov 01st 2022
75
fam i didnt wanna overreact but im thinking the same.
Nov 01st 2022
78
If they come off Wiseman, they can probably keep Dray.
Nov 01st 2022
80
calm down they're called young players for a reason lol
Nov 02nd 2022
83
      LOL they will be praising em by xmas.
Nov 02nd 2022
84
      Wiseman's played like 50 games since high school lol
Nov 02nd 2022
85
      It's not even about "can they be good?" though imo.
Nov 02nd 2022
86
      calm down?
Nov 02nd 2022
88
Honestly…Dwight’s a good move.
Nov 01st 2022
81
38 minutes for KD.
Nov 01st 2022
74
Jay Williams made a point on Get Up....
Nov 02nd 2022
82
Yep. Mind-boggling that more people don't consider this.
Nov 02nd 2022
87
Udoka wasn't fired, he was "suspended" Reading comprehension.
Nov 03rd 2022
98
Or it could mean that Boston is dumb as hell!..plus it’s Boston
Nov 03rd 2022
102
Minnesota's two-big lineup is a fucking mess.
Nov 02nd 2022
89
anthony edwards realizing how bad the starting lineup is:
Nov 02nd 2022
90
I died laughing when I saw that.
Nov 03rd 2022
97
Fake ass Twin Towers. lol
Nov 02nd 2022
91
Everyone wants to be a (Cavalier) until it's time to BE a (Cavalier)
Nov 02nd 2022
93
With the second OT win over the reigning EC Champs...
Nov 02nd 2022
92
Utah fucked up...
Nov 03rd 2022
105
westbrook look interested in playing basketball now
Nov 02nd 2022
94
that whole matt ryan sequence was fly as hell.
Nov 02nd 2022
95
That was so shocking I didn’t even cheer or yell or anything
Nov 03rd 2022
96
he better do something lol, meanwhile Bron shooting a career worst 22%
Nov 03rd 2022
99
J.T. is coming for yall, man...
Nov 03rd 2022
100
you see it.
Nov 03rd 2022
101
Giannis owns everyone on both ends of the court.
Nov 03rd 2022
103
man, I was checking them out, last night....
Nov 03rd 2022
104
      Agreed.
Nov 03rd 2022
108
      I truly think he could score 60 every night if he wanted to
Nov 03rd 2022
110
      From my very limited time watching the Bucks
Nov 03rd 2022
111
this season continues my love affair with Darius Garland....
Nov 03rd 2022
106
the black steve nash
Nov 03rd 2022
113
Adam Silver wants to meet with Kyrie over a
Nov 03rd 2022
107
Harden out a month with a right foot tendon sprain...
Nov 03rd 2022
109
'no' would be a simple answer to 'do you have any antisemitic beliefs?'
Nov 03rd 2022
112
apparently kyrie didnt personally meet with the adl
Nov 03rd 2022
116
wrong post
Nov 03rd 2022
114
There’s Giannis and everyone else, man.
Nov 03rd 2022
115
NETS suspend Kyrie for "no less than five games."
Nov 03rd 2022
117
their statement sounds pretty harsh.
Nov 03rd 2022
118
he's uncooperative and unremorseful
Nov 03rd 2022
119
im bringing back my prediction from the previous nba post.
Nov 03rd 2022
121
It wasn't "what about slavery" he was talking Black Israelite shit
Nov 03rd 2022
125
      Ooh nevermind just saw the clip you saw. You right.
Nov 03rd 2022
143
He shared a movie that cites Hitler to support its thesis.
Nov 03rd 2022
120
      Legit, this morning on LeBatard…
Nov 03rd 2022
122
      i mean, i have a feeling Silver is gonna suspend him for the year.
Nov 03rd 2022
123
      i would pay good money to see that silver/kyrie convo lol
Nov 03rd 2022
126
      a fake hitler quote at that.
Nov 03rd 2022
124
      The stubbornness is 100% the problem.
Nov 03rd 2022
127
           he deserves all of the backlash regardless imo.
Nov 03rd 2022
131
           Narcissists don’t apologize like that
Nov 05th 2022
208
      Sorry for what?
Nov 03rd 2022
129
           This might make you boycott the NBA?
Nov 03rd 2022
132
                yup, i wish L Stah well on his crusade against Kyrie's...
Nov 03rd 2022
136
                You’re okay with a team and league condemning and
Nov 03rd 2022
145
On Reddit they said the Nets encapsulate 6 outta 7 deadly sins
Nov 03rd 2022
130
Meanwhile in San Antonio...
Nov 03rd 2022
128
It will he interesting to see how this turns out, because the
Nov 03rd 2022
135
      They cut a lottery pick and pulled his jerseys for sale.
Nov 03rd 2022
140
           Damn you can’t read.
Nov 03rd 2022
142
                Yeaaaaaaah guess he’d be the first defense lawyer to lie.
Nov 03rd 2022
146
                     Now he is a lying defense lawyer?
Nov 04th 2022
148
                          You’re not leaving.
Nov 04th 2022
172
                               Wouldn't it be great if he did tho.
Nov 04th 2022
173
time to talk about how incompetent joe tsai is as an owner.
Nov 03rd 2022
133
ADL said nah take your 500K back
Nov 03rd 2022
134
man this warriors bench is unsustainable.
Nov 03rd 2022
137
lol
Nov 03rd 2022
138
smh its the story of every game.
Nov 03rd 2022
139
      yeah, they even wasted nice Klay game tonight...
Nov 03rd 2022
141
           thats not a normal terrible team
Nov 04th 2022
187
Steph leading the team in rebounds.
Nov 04th 2022
165
      he was leading every major statistical category just a few days ago.
Nov 04th 2022
186
Kyrie apologizes.
Nov 03rd 2022
144
Good start. I truly hope it’s sincere.
Nov 04th 2022
147
It's not sincere. Lmao
Nov 04th 2022
151
right. it's clear he didn't want to apologize.
Nov 04th 2022
157
I mean, probably not. But…
Nov 04th 2022
158
is it possible for him to only be 'antisemitic' at home games?
Nov 04th 2022
199
We’ll see when they ask him at the next press conference
Nov 04th 2022
154
Don't know if this helps.
Nov 04th 2022
149
You’re silly as hell.
Nov 04th 2022
150
hes on your side of the argument
Nov 04th 2022
153
      No shit.
Nov 04th 2022
160
      Don't lump me in with him.
Nov 04th 2022
190
I'm sure I'm not the first to mention this
Nov 04th 2022
184
Hopefully everyone involved can build from this.
Nov 04th 2022
152
He didn't fucking write that.
Nov 04th 2022
155
yeah i think his account got hacked.
Nov 04th 2022
159
hope he's pressed about this until the day he retires
Nov 04th 2022
156
      ^^this is an example of our inhumane society
Nov 04th 2022
171
           But anti-semitism is totally humane, to you.
Nov 04th 2022
175
Now his apology isn’t good enough and they want him to meet
Nov 04th 2022
161
he's about to be playing in China
Nov 04th 2022
162
making no judgement about whether kyrie should/shouldn't do this...
Nov 04th 2022
164
Some of what you said re: racism is true, but beyond that, loud and wron...
Nov 04th 2022
168
^^^ I rest my case.
Nov 04th 2022
170
      You should've a long time ago.
Nov 04th 2022
174
Why can't you care about the Uyghurs, call out China
Nov 04th 2022
177
kevin durant apparently blames the organization and the media
Nov 04th 2022
163
now y’all want to go after Kevin Durant.. lol
Nov 04th 2022
166
KD's follow up coulda been Kyrie's response...
Nov 04th 2022
167
Durant blamed the media ?! Ya don't say.
Nov 04th 2022
169
LMAO this gotta be the most unsavviest famous motherfuckers ever
Nov 04th 2022
179
      two legitimate cornballs
Nov 04th 2022
181
           LMAO @ tin-foiled-hat Rod Strickland
Nov 08th 2022
245
I do think there's a bit too much sauce on the Kyrie hate
Nov 04th 2022
176
it's the tipping point on all his fuckery since the flat earth mess
Nov 04th 2022
180
Nice post
Nov 04th 2022
200
It's a campaign against Kyrie
Nov 14th 2022
251
Has Ime put pen to paper yet?
Nov 04th 2022
178
If Bos was just gonna let him walk, i don't think returning there is an ...
Nov 04th 2022
182
It would be hilarious
Nov 04th 2022
183
dude could ruin his entire career in brooklyn.
Nov 04th 2022
185
      exactly
Nov 04th 2022
189
           this really should be the reason he doesnt go lol.
Nov 04th 2022
192
elephant in the room: what if the nets play better without kyrie?
Nov 04th 2022
191
nets blew the wizards out by *40* lol.
Nov 04th 2022
197
Nike suspends relationship with Kyrie....
Nov 04th 2022
193
he getting fried from every angle rn
Nov 04th 2022
195
anybody remember when durant said he couldnt play with lebron
Nov 04th 2022
194
the Warriors really must be ass. Cavs blow Detroit OUT
Nov 04th 2022
196
Damn dude..
Nov 05th 2022
204
The answer to that question explains it:
Nov 05th 2022
220
RE: the Warriors really must be ass. Cavs blow Detroit OUT
Nov 05th 2022
205
      Pistons, not Pelicans (GS had full team for Det)
Nov 05th 2022
207
           correct.
Nov 05th 2022
219
ty jerome might be the warriors best bench player.
Nov 04th 2022
198
The kids still traumatized from seeing dad beat the oldest sibling
Nov 05th 2022
206
Nba refs don’t know what a travel is bc Jerami Grant took 4.5 steps fo...
Nov 05th 2022
201
I agree, half the time they‘re just guessing
Nov 05th 2022
213
Portland has championship potential.
Nov 05th 2022
202
Dinwiddie say Tony Brothers called him a “bitchass motherfucker”..da...
Nov 05th 2022
203
*shoulder shrug* If that’s how he feels then hey. Lol
Nov 05th 2022
209
I’d give up AD, Russ and both our picks for KD, Kyrie and Seth
Nov 05th 2022
210
Thank God Sean Marks isn’t that gullible
Nov 05th 2022
211
That would fix no problems whatsoever for either team.
Nov 05th 2022
215
      Completely throwing it out there(c)OKS
Nov 05th 2022
216
lebron comments on kyrie:
Nov 05th 2022
212
Seeing all these premature dudes in here talk about GS….
Nov 05th 2022
214
RE: Seeing all these premature dudes in here talk about GS….
Nov 05th 2022
221
nick friedell seems like an asshole.
Nov 05th 2022
217
he's definitely a cornball
Nov 05th 2022
218
Conditions for Ky to return to the team...
Nov 06th 2022
222
this is a real test
Nov 06th 2022
223
there is one condition that I find absolute dogshit
Nov 06th 2022
224
They on his ass lol
Nov 06th 2022
225
theres 2 ways to look at this list:
Nov 06th 2022
227
More Cavs talk
Nov 06th 2022
226
I watched both Cleveland games vs. Boston this year
Nov 06th 2022
228
This is hilarious.
Nov 06th 2022
229
      lol yea damn that's crazy.
Nov 06th 2022
231
whew... what a damn game.
Nov 06th 2022
230
      also DAMMIT I wish the Cavs could have kept Lauri.
Nov 06th 2022
232
westbrook gotta be the most celebratingest nigga
Nov 07th 2022
233
Rock the baby!
Nov 07th 2022
234
all good until the last 5 minutes
Nov 08th 2022
235
1st time I watched Cavs this season (what are odds for them to make ECF?...
Nov 08th 2022
242
Did Jordan Poole scam all of us?
Nov 08th 2022
236
Dray fault.
Nov 08th 2022
237
He didnt do much in the playoffs either.
Nov 08th 2022
238
Who's "us"? lol
Nov 08th 2022
239
what's really confounding me is he's getting minutes.
Nov 08th 2022
240
      I feel like the incident with Dray expedited his contract & his minutes
Nov 08th 2022
241
shit has the entire dubs team scammed us
Nov 08th 2022
243
Can't carry the ball can't score lol
Nov 08th 2022
244
Nets announce Jacque Vaughn as head coach. 🤔🤔🤔
Nov 09th 2022
246
he should've had the job before Nash, with their current PR nightmares.....
Nov 09th 2022
247
He was the head coach before Nash was there.
Nov 09th 2022
249
PR move. Not the right time to bring in Udoka…
Nov 09th 2022
248
      Maybe but Vaughn is signed thru next season.
Nov 09th 2022
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Beezo
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1. "Who’s responsible for the garbage Sacramento has on the floor?"
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8. "Save these bums Heurter!!"
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Fear The Turtle

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2. "Nets are blazing out the gates tonight"
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Team looks really motivated, almost as if they are rallying behind Kyrie. Nick Friedell (the columnist who had the viral exchange with Kyrie the other night) noted today that the younger Nets players really admire Kyrie and respect him immensely as a leader - and that he's generally very well liked across the board on the roster. You can really see it in how they are fighting tonight behind him.

Interesting way to galvanize your team but Nets are desperate for a win for sure.


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5. "Blew a 25 point lead and its now down to 7"
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edit its back up to 15 but ...

this team is so unlikeable and they play such shitty basketball I often find myself rooting for the team without 3 players on Max contracts

Claxton has terrible hands. Joe Harris is a shooter that cant shoot, or put the ball on the floor. Ben Simmons thinks its a fashion show. just blah

>Team looks really motivated, almost as if they are rallying
>behind Kyrie. Nick Friedell (the columnist who had the viral
>exchange with Kyrie the other night) noted today that the
>younger Nets players really admire Kyrie and respect him
>immensely as a leader - and that he's generally very well
>liked across the board on the roster. You can really see it
>in how they are fighting tonight behind him.
>
>Interesting way to galvanize your team but Nets are desperate
>for a win for sure.
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6. "back up to 19 in the 3rd. "
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All I'm saying is this is the most inspired they've looked this year, and Kyrie is playing great once again tonight (he's played great this year thus far despite the losses).

I still think they can turn this around, but I totally get why Nets fans would be disgusted at this point.


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9. "It’s also against a Pacers team expected to finish near the basement."
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Beating that team by 7 doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in me that they are on the right track tbh.

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20. "pretty much"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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3. "Way too early for MVP but uh…Giannis. "
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I know Luka has the eye popping stats.

And we’re “used to” Giannis but the man is averaging 34/14/6 as if that shit isn’t insane already. And also he’s winning without his #2. Just insane. Dude is on a serious mission to strong arm into that top 10.

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4. "Yup, Giannis has been an absolute monster thus far"
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Bucks are the only undefeated team left in the league, and Giannis has put his imprint on every single game in such a dominant way. Also doing it with Middleton out.

Giannis is the best player in the NBA right now.

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7. "Maxey on another level this year. "
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10. "Utah, Frank!"
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Nope!

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11. "They’ve started hot."
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Lauri Markannen is playing like an All-Star player, maybe even All-NBA. Maybe the new coach is just straight up that dude.

I still highly doubt they hang on and make the playoffs, would be incredible if they did. They’d be the worst roster to make the playoffs in god knows how long. Credit to them for not immediately getting on board for the tank, I guess.

(Also, you never voted for your worst team, and I didn’t vote for the Jazz. But don’t let that stop you from thinking you have something when I include one of the two Vegas favorites preseason for next year’s #1 pick on that poll, lol.)

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12. "How did the Lakers let Bojan get away?"
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Pistons got him for next to NOTHING. And he’s playing like a guy with an outside shot at an All-Star for Detroit.

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13. "Either that Pelinka sucks or/and Laker tax. "
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Cold Truth
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17. "Rob has been wise not to trade Russ and those picks"
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None of what’s been available is a big enough difference maker to make it worth mortgaging what little we have left.

Best case scenario, we play the hand we have, as is, and let the chips fall where they fall.

We either get someone who wants Russ expiring badly enough to gove up something without us giving up picks, or we let him walk.

We trade Bron and AD summer for whatever we can get, and we at lesst have something to rebuild with.

We’ll have to rebuild in two years anyways, trading those picks just means we’ll have even less to build with.

  

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18. "Sure. Doesn’t mean he hasn’t been bad for 2 years though. "
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Cold Truth
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22. "I’m specifically addressing why we aren’t landing players right now"
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15. "Say we got him for a pick. Then what? "
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You’re not a Lakers fan.

So I’m sure you’ll think Lebron’s play-in berth will have been worth the squeeze when we suck and someone else is picking the player that should/could have been ours.

Or when we badly need to improve the roster *again*, and, yet again, we’re ass up over a barrel with minimal assets because it was more important to get Lebron to the playoffs for his one-and-done than it is to take care of the long term health and viability of the actual franchise.

None of these guys are worth becoming the Knicks.

  

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35. "The Pistons didn’t use a pick."
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They traded an Olynyk contract that only has 3 mil on the books next year and a player that Utah immediately cut.

My question wasn’t “why didn’t the Lakers mortgage the future to get Bojan?” It was a simple one with clear context. If a team got a good player without using a pick or even a real noteworthy asset, then how were the Lakers not in play for him?

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59. "I'm saying that WE would have had to give up a pick. "
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My statement was a simple one with clear context.

If a deal like that were on the table, we'd have taken it.

The Lakers Tax is a thing, Frank. Particularly considering this is Danny Ainge we're talking about in Utah.

And you know well that the only things we have of any real value, are those picks and Russ' contract.

They weren't taking back Bev. Nunn's contract is too small.

Who would we have dealt, to make the salaries match? Most of our team is newly signed free agents that can't be traded until December.

It would have had to have been part of a larger Russ deal, and nobody is taking that without those picks.

Teams know we're in a serious bind, need talent, have few assets, and want to crank up the asking prices on us.

But let's say that's not the case.

Why didn't, quite literally, anyone else jump in? How many teams could have used a guy like that?

Atlanta, Milwaukee (particularly given that Middleton is out), NY, BK, Phoenix, Boston, Dallas, there are a ton of teams who could use a guy like that. Phoenix and Crowder, for example, could have been the centerpiece.

So if you're asking this of the Lakers, I'd say that the same can be asked of nearly anyone else.

But I still contend that the Lakers tax is the biggest reason. Someone would have to be doing us a favor these days just for us to get a deal that anyone else can get. Our price will generally be higher, especially if we're trying to deal with Ainge.

  

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19. "Another player that's been playing better in this early season"
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has been Dennis Smith Jr. Good for him to bounce back in a sense. If memory serves me correct, he hurt his back around the time he got traded to the Knicks and wasn't the same after that. He lost a measurable amount of explosiveness to this game, which was pretty much is bread and butter on offense since he has no reliable jumper or outside game.

Assuming he continues to play at this somewhat improved level, I wonder what he'll do after this season since I'm assuming he's going to want to go to a better team than Charlotte.

Wonder what changed for him to finally get right.

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14. "kawhi missing more games due to knee/load management."
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https://twitter.com/SInow/status/1587260792562339840

for all the talk about anthony davis...

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16. "He’s done. Also, it’s the Clippers. It’s not like there’s a lega..."
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Clips gonna clip.

The Lakers are being viewed in contrast to their rich history and winning tradition.

For the Clippers, this is largely par.

Plus people care about the Lakers- even the people who hate them.

  

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21. "pretty on point. plus KW has led multiple teams to chips...AD has not."
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AD is tied to Lebron, KW is not. The amount of eyeballs tuned into Laker nation just doesnt compare.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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28. "Kawhi really gave it all to the Raptors."
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I mean...really...last time he was healthy was in the bubble, but...yikes. He's kinda cooked, huh?

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29. "The wild Butterfly Effect of that Zaza Pachulia injury."
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So wild how so many teams were affected by such an insignificant player. Am I correct in assuming the knee that's giving him issues was the same one that was injured those years ago?

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65. "GOAT TRAJECTORY SF!"
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<----- Long Live The King

  

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23. "Steve Nash just got clapped...wowzers"
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24. "I thought they’d wait for the 10 game mark , but damn "
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25. "Bet he’s moonwalking out the door."
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Like y’all can have it.

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26. "fuck yes. "
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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27. "No better gig than fired NBA coach"
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How many years does he have left? Dude's gonna be making TikToks with his daughter while cashing checks and not having to deal with that mess.

Good for both sides.

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31. "Would be sadly hilarious if Jacque Vaughn got the gig"
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and manages to actually right the cruddy ship that is the Brooklyn Nets.

**edit**
Just saw an alert on my phone right after my post that Jacque Vaughn will be the interim coach.

The main reason for my initial response was that Jacque Vaughn was the head coach for the Nets before Steve Nash got there, was fired, and had to remain as assistant coach for all the time Nash was stealing checks.

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32. "what coach outside the organization would want that job?"
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33. "I guarantee he's happy to be out of there. Ha"
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34. "LMAO they did that man a solid"
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36. "He’s been a bad coach, but it’s also a really bad situation."
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Even if you ignore the off-court/chemistry stuff (and you shouldn’t), if Ben Simmons isn’t in game shape enough to be a net positive defender, let alone the defender he once was, then their roster is a mortal lock to be the worst defense in the NBA. Kyrie won’t defend. Ben currently can’t. Royce O’Neal is overrated without Gobert cleaning up behind him. Most of the bench is AWFUL defensively. So their best defender is a 34-year-old who also is carrying a huge chunk of the offensive burden AND is a mortal lock to miss 15-20 games this year.

Like… they need Ben to be old Ben very very badly. lol. And even then, I don’t think that would’ve been enough to save Nash’s job.

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38. "That being said they should have enough offense (on paper) to win 50"
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games and make the 2nd round AT LEAST.

Nash ain't do shit on that side of the ball.

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46. "That assumes that the stars want to run a motion offense."
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Like, the iso ball your turn-my turn offense, even with stars, is increasingly less likely to get it done in the NBA going forward. Especially if not everyone on the floor can shoot and pass.

Cuts, screens, occupying space in motion-- we've seen it for years in Golden State, we've seen it with Milwaukee, we're seeing it with Memphis, etc. It'll be interesting to see if Udoka can get Durant/Kyrie to try to run more of a system on offense.

Because they haven't been a Top 10 offense in the league since Harden left. Maybe your turn-my turn only works if you have 3 of the best 8 offensive players in the world, and it doesn't work with 2. *shrug*

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37. "So much for Joe Tsai's display of "support" for Nash lol"
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https://twitter.com/joetsai1999/status/1556791235427405824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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39. "Are you under the impression that minds don't change? "
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Moreover, the reporting thus far has been calling it "a mutual decision".

Even if it's not, change is inevitable with this sort of struggle so early in the season.

  

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41. ""Mutual" usually is a euphemism to finesse the firing"
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and soften the blow.

It's November 1st. It's not like the hole is insurmountable at this point (and they just won). While there's probably more going on behind the scenes (as is always the case) - it's hard to say that the purported "support" was steadfast after firing Nash *this* early.
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57. "Can we agree that "usually" and "always" are different things?"
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>and soften the blow.
>
>It's November 1st. It's not like the hole is insurmountable
>at this point (and they just won). While there's probably
>more going on behind the scenes (as is always the case) - it's
>hard to say that the purported "support" was steadfast after
>firing Nash *this* early.

It's hard to say.... well... anything.

Because things haven't completely shaken out on the information front.

He may have been fired outright.
He may have requested to leave.

The way it worked out could have gone a few different ways.

But we really don't know.

  

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60. "For sure."
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>It's hard to say.... well... anything.
>
>Because things haven't completely shaken out on the
>information front.
>
>He may have been fired outright.
>He may have requested to leave.
>
>The way it worked out could have gone a few different ways.
>
>But we really don't know.

What we do know is that Tsai's "support" for Nash was flimsy af.


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61. "No, we just know that Nash is no longer coach of the Nets"
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It's cool that you're comfortable making assertions that you can't really support with any actual facts though.

  

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63. "Fact: Tsai fired Nash with ~93% of the games left in the season"
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Based on that fact, I'm making the assertion that Tsai's "support" for Nash wasn't nearly as rock-solid as it was purported to be. In the off-season the narrative being pushed (and Tsai's own words) demonstrate that Tsai was siding with Nash & Marks over KD & Kyrie and their antics. Turns out that this was incorrect, at least as it pertained to Nash. He was on the chopping block and ultimately became the scapegoat for the dysfunction of this group.

That said, I fully realize why a change had to come in Brooklyn. Nash lost the respect of the players (for whatever reason), and he was unable to implement schemes (particularly on the defensive end) that solved Brooklyn's ills, despite having immense talent to work with. But you could easily make the argument that KD & Kyrie's approach has stifled the spirit of the team and prevented any continuity. Nonetheless, it's clear that Nash was the scapegoat here - and ultimately - he was not supported by Tsai and took the fall.


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30. "Ime Udoka to Brooklyn! Let’s make it happen!"
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Udoka should quit right now…leave Boston wack ass in the dust.

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40. "The last thing the nets need is an undisciplined unprofessional doofus a..."
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>Udoka should quit right now…leave Boston wack ass in the
>dust.

I’d like to see Sam Cassell get that job

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45. "Welp...ain't gonna be Sam"
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42. ""How can we clean up the mess of this organization?""
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"Let's hire the guy who sleeps with the female staff!"

Like, no doubt Udoka is a better coaching mind than Nash, but good grief. I guess they figure no unsavory details about that scandal will be any worse than the stuff Kyrie might say at any given moment, lol.

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48. "The Nets clearly are in win now and right now mode"
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The combination of not having those seven picks because of the James Harden trade and possibly not wanting to resign Kyrie to a new four year deal because of all the past and recent nonsense he's dredged up is going to make Brooklyn become desperate.

I wonder how big of a bag Brooklyn is going to throw at Udoka.

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53. "I just don't know what Udoka can do to fix that. "
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I think he'll certainly make things *better* by better utilizing guys like Simmons than Nash did and finding creative sets to theoretically execute (assuming the stars want to get on board).

But this team isn't going to be better on defense through effort alone. The guards are all small, and every guard/wing outside of O'Neal is *real* bad on defense. Claxton and Simmons aren't rim protectors. And as you pointed out, they are *incredibly* restricted in the potential moves they can make due to lack of draft equity.

Like, their defense right now, small sample size notwithstanding, is on pace to be easily one of the worst in *years.* And there's a roster component to that struggle, without question. Then when you add the reluctance of certain players on the roster to give a flying fuck about off-ball action, the problems compound.

So even with a really smart on-court coach like Udoka, I just... don't know what realistically he can do with this roster. If he can make this defense even a top 20 in the NBA defense, he'd make my Coach of the Year shortlist, lol.

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55. "In theory, this move should register some improvement"
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>I think he'll certainly make things *better* by better
>utilizing guys like Simmons than Nash did and finding creative
>sets to theoretically execute (assuming the stars want to get
>on board).
>
>But this team isn't going to be better on defense through
>effort alone. The guards are all small, and every guard/wing
>outside of O'Neal is *real* bad on defense. Claxton and
>Simmons aren't rim protectors. And as you pointed out, they
>are *incredibly* restricted in the potential moves they can
>make due to lack of draft equity.
>
>Like, their defense right now, small sample size
>notwithstanding, is on pace to be easily one of the worst in
>*years.* And there's a roster component to that struggle,
>without question. Then when you add the reluctance of certain
>players on the roster to give a flying fuck about off-ball
>action, the problems compound.
>
>So even with a really smart on-court coach like Udoka, I
>just... don't know what realistically he can do with this
>roster. If he can make this defense even a top 20 in the NBA
>defense, he'd make my Coach of the Year shortlist, lol.

Udoka is clearly a better head coach than Nash and to paraphrase the Iron Sheik, he had a hand in humbling the Nets old country style last year when he swept them, so I'd hope at least Durant would seriously lend an ear to what Udoka will sell to the team. I wonder how well Kyrie and Udoka meshed when Udoka was an assistant in Boston when Kyrie was there, assuming they did indeed cross paths.

I mainly agree with you about this possibly failing because I don't know how much Ben Simmons will improve matters as he going to be the x-factor for this team to prosper. He's going to have to be a scoring threat to open up the half court and properly run the point and I have my doubts if he's mentally and physically capable of doing that, at least to the level he'll need to for the Nets to win now and right now.

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58. "The key is absolutely Simmons. "
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And maybe Udoka can fix that. He obviously took some of his cues on both sides from what Golden State's done the last few years while he was at Boston. I've always said that Simmons's best chance to really thrive isn't as a point guard (because he can't shoot so teams will just sag off) or as a pure center (because he's not a rim protector and he seems reluctant to finish through contact the last few years due to free throw woes), but as a Draymond Green type, running the offense from the high post.

But that takes, y'know, lots of screening and cutting and motion to create situations where Simmons can hit guys for clean looks in space. And a lot of Brooklyn's stuff for the last two years has been everyone standing around while the stars go to work.

It'd also require, to some extent, taking the ball out of KD/Kyrie's hands more than present and trusting Ben to use his size and vision in the high post to make things happen. Steph and even KD certainly let Draymond do his thing in offensive sets in Golden State... but also, like, is this roster built for this? Like, they really did just sign a bunch of guys who are either catch-and-shoot threats or iso offense players. Guys like Morris, maybe even Edwards could potentially thrive in more cleverly-built offensive sets...

... I'm just not convinced change can happen fast enough to salvage the season. And, again, Kyrie is always one day away from missing time, KD is old, Simmons could take a mental health break at any point, etc. It's just an entire core of stars walking on eggshells.

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52. "What?"
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That goes on throughout the entire NBA, from top to bottom!

His situation just happened to get leaked…..

No one cares about that.

He had consensual sex with a married woman. That’s adultery, not a crime, and it
has nothing to do with playing basketball.

Ime Udoka is the only logical move.

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43. "Breaking!! Udoka to be named Nets' coach "in next 24 - 48 hours" LMAO "
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47. "lol the nba isnt short on drama. "
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i wanna see udoka succeed but i wanna see the nets fail.

so im conflicted.

itll be interesting to see what the relationship between him and kyrie is like.

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50. "damn usually niggas don’t get to bounce back this fast "
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51. "I, uh...would NOT want to work for the Nets PR team."
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54. "The only people left in the Nets PR department are masochists."
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I doubt this moves the needle much for them compared to the usual bullshit they have to be prepared to deal with at the drop of a hat. It's just dumping a little more shit into a vat of shit.

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62. "IF YOU GON LET A FUCK COME BETWEEN OUR LOVE....."
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Can you imagine the Nets visiting Boston...Ky-Ky and Udoka in the building?!?!?!?


And folks think Trump is going to jail. LOL. Shits crazy out here.

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44. "."
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49. "“What fuck is going on?!” -Stew in Hangover"
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56. "Damn! The Nets are in fact in discussion with Udoka"
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regarding the job. That’s what is being reported.

My ninja!

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64. "Demar is a joy to watch, man."
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188. "i always wonder what it is about guys like him "
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what do they do that allows them to keep getting better and better after 30

Kyle Lowry is another one

different sport but Charles Woodson is another one

its fascinating to me

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66. "kyrie with the 4 point minimum effort protest game."
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67. "Fun ass game to watch."
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Kyrie going 2-12 after *waves arms around* all of THAT...is hilarious, too

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68. "Real ? … was KD fair to ask for a trade? Is he vindicated some?"
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I cannot imagine how much it must suck to go to work for Kevin Durant

He’s not without his blame

But I just think about being such a SPECIAL player , surrounded by bums, attached at the hip to a petulant and combative Narcissist like Kyrie Irving … it has to be exhausting

He made this bed so he’ll have to sleep in it but damn man he could’ve stayed in San Fran and won like 3 or 4 more rings

  

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70. "Oh, he's a weirdo. No question."
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I dunno, sure - any player can ask for a trade. But you have to be realistic in knowing what the market is, too. How could Kevin Durant think that his team could realistically trade him with however many years left he has on his contract? He had no leverage. Which makes sense - he really lacks self awareness sometimes. And I LOVE KD.

But yeah, this is - at least, in part - his mess. Had he kept his ego in check - or/and his mental health in realizing that winning titles might not be the cure all to whatever he was dealing with - the dude truly could have bounced back with the Warriors and have potentially 2 more rings.

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71. "fuck no he chose this"
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he chose kyrie. he chose Nash to not be a coach over Kenny Atkinson. chose to sign Deandre washed up ass and ship Jarrett Allen out of town.

yeah might be a special player but he's a special idiot too when it comes to leadership and being the player/GM. should've just accepted what it was in GSW and keep letting the smart people make the decisions.

all because he couldnt get out of his feelings and accept he would never be bigger than Steph in Steph's city

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72. "Totally fair, totally fair "
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Jussayin, it’s not what he thought you know? Date a girl , think it’s gonna go great , and it doesn’t…but a house, 6 months in there’s issues you didn’t notice in the inspection.

You’re right for sure, but I get it too

  

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69. "yeah im done watching the warriors til christmas."
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this shit aint good for my blood pressure lol.

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73. "Quick Jordan Poole update:"
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The Warriors +\- vs the Heat today:

Steph: +3
Dray: +7
Klay: +6
Wiggins: +8
Looney: +11
Poole: -23

Like… what?! lmao

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76. "Out there gunning and turning that rock over. "
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77. "makes no damn sense."
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79. "This Anthony Slater tweet says so much:"
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"Warriors' starters won the first 6.5 minutes of first quarter by four points. Bench started mixing in and they lost final 5.5 minutes by 13 points. Zero Jordan Poole shots/stats. Three James Wiseman fouls in five minutes. All five bench players double digit minus."

I mean, LMAO.

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75. "at this point, i won't be shocked..."
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if, barring a turnaround in the very near future, they trade Kuminga and Wiseman for solid bench vets.

doesn't feel like the youth movement i assume they were kinda banking on is gonna happen.

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78. "fam i didnt wanna overreact but im thinking the same."
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how many dunks is wiseman gonna miss? dude bricked an easy alley oop tonight. and his defense is atrocious. he has no idea where to be.

and kuminga is clearly in the dog house. if its just on the court stuff then send him down to the g league to develop. but i think kerr doesnt like some other shit (what people have been rumbling about).

package them up and get a vet with some inside presence who is ready to contribute now. let them dudes go grow on a rebuilding team with no pressure or expectations. you cant be wasting currys prime with this shit.

and theres no reason they should be getting outplayed by ty jerome lol.

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80. "If they come off Wiseman, they can probably keep Dray."
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So I absolutely think they should deal Wiseman, lol.

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83. "calm down they're called young players for a reason lol"
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84. "LOL they will be praising em by xmas."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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85. "Wiseman's played like 50 games since high school lol"
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86. "It's not even about "can they be good?" though imo."
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It's about dealing a contract that will still be on the books next year to retain Draymond. Because if they don't trade Wiseman, it will be very hard to resign Draymond. And for as much longterm upside as Wiseman has, he's not a net positive NBA player at this point-- and it may still be another year or two til he is.

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88. "calm down?"
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i'm not worked up.

SMH.

i'm not even saying anything that original here.

they were kind of taking the gamble that these guy were gonna be the fill ins for what they lost.

so far? they're failing horribly at that, and there's not a lot of signs that will turn around. i understand it's early, but it's not like Wiseman and Kuminga especially haven't seen an NBA floor. you'd think, with their experience and the vets around that they'd be doing better than this. shit, Wiseman and Kuminga have BEEN better than this on an NBA floor plenty of times before.

so, you have a choice: stick with that, or move some desirable young guys for some vets who can potentially do the job.

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81. "Honestly…Dwight’s a good move. "
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74. "38 minutes for KD."
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Like, I get that the Nets need to start winning before they let KD start resting.

But, uh, putting this much burden on both ends on a 34-year-old’s shoulders? Not great, Bob!

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82. "Jay Williams made a point on Get Up...."
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that I honestly hadn't considered. The Celtics got a 1st round pick for Doc Rivers. They gave Ume up for NOTHING...just take him, yo. That says a lot about whatever happened with him there and where the Nets are, right now. Like...here's an elite coach...get him outta here. We don't want anything, just take dude.

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87. "Yep. Mind-boggling that more people don't consider this. "
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Then again, people still think Udoka was fired for "having a consensual relationship," so their reading comprehension with these stories isn't very strong.

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98. "Udoka wasn't fired, he was "suspended" Reading comprehension."
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>Then again, people still think Udoka was fired for "having a
>consensual relationship," so their reading comprehension with
>these stories isn't very strong.

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102. "Or it could mean that Boston is dumb as hell!..plus it’s Boston"
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a city known for racism and treating black people differently….see I can speculate
too…

So quit with the reaching because it’s a form of demonizing…and trying to
paint Udoka in a bad light when you have no proof.

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89. "Minnesota's two-big lineup is a fucking mess."
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KAT can't defend the 4 at all, and Gobert is so sagged down into drop coverage as the 5. And Ant is just doing his own thing, trying to engage on-ball, no interest off-ball.

It's a shit show, lol.

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90. "anthony edwards realizing how bad the starting lineup is:"
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https://twitter.com/JaceFrederick/status/1587687730242326529

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97. "I died laughing when I saw that."
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He's not wrong either.

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93. "Everyone wants to be a (Cavalier) until it's time to BE a (Cavalier)"
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Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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92. "With the second OT win over the reigning EC Champs..."
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...the Cleveland Cavaliers are putting the NBA on notice.

SpidaLand is real. Darius's first game back against elite defenders: 29PTS, 12AST 5/11 from 3.

Team was getting HOSED on fouls in the paint. Boston (well, really Jaylen Brown) was getting whatever he wanted.

Mobley was in foul trouble early.


rumors of the Mitchell/Garland duo not working are just that.
Caris LeVert is a great "glue guy" for this team.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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105. "Utah fucked up..."
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A lot of chatter about the Knicks, but Ainge's dumbass fucked up by letting Mitchell go.


Trade Gobert...fire the serial-killer looking ass coach...make tweaks.


But the chances the Jazz draft another player of Mitchel's caliber that is actually okay with living in fucking Utah is slim slim.

Not a free agent destination, so they have to bank on the draft.


Chances are they are bad for a few years, maybe they draft a high potential player or two...the teams improves again...and they bounce because again, its fucking Utah.




Good for the Cavs though. Fun team.





  

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94. "westbrook look interested in playing basketball now"
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95. "that whole matt ryan sequence was fly as hell."
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96. "That was so shocking I didn’t even cheer or yell or anything"
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I couldn’t believe that shit went in.

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99. "he better do something lol, meanwhile Bron shooting a career worst 22%"
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from 3

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100. "J.T. is coming for yall, man..."
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there's nowhere to run. He's better and he's coming...LMAO!!!

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101. "you see it."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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103. "Giannis owns everyone on both ends of the court."
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104. "man, I was checking them out, last night...."
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I don't even know what you are supposed to do with that human being. I can't believe how easy everything is for him. His physical gifts are just mind-blowing and he's obviously worked his ass off to perfect them. He's legit the closest thing we have in the NBA to a create-a-player.

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108. "Agreed."
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110. "I truly think he could score 60 every night if he wanted to"
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111. "From my very limited time watching the Bucks"
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it appears as if both Brook Lopez and Bobby Portis are playing quite well in lieu of Middleton being out. Not to say they are on the same level of Giannis nor that Giannis isn't feasting, but both dudes are playing their respective roles quite well, especially Brook Lopez. Looks as if he's actually become a capable defensive presence, which is a far cry from how he played in his hey day on the Nets.

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106. "this season continues my love affair with Darius Garland...."
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fuck, this kid is fun to watch. I feared he might get stunted some, with Spida's arrival.....NOOOOO (c)Little Kevin from The Wire

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113. "the black steve nash"
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To people like US, a record is a piece of history. A moment in time.
Most people don't get it.

  

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107. " Adam Silver wants to meet with Kyrie over a"
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post of a movie/book for open discussion, but the NBA partners with a country that
exterminates certain ethnicities and denies a country its human rights and
refuses to recognize the independence of a country.

The NBA basically funds a country through its many business deals with that country….

One entity is dealing with something in regards to words and expression…the other
entity actually has a relationship with a country that is trying to exterminate people
just like Hitler was trying to exterminate Jews. The NBA clearly supports genocide.

But Adam put out a statement that the nba doesn’t tolerate or condone prejudice
or racism against any particular group, race or religion…..that’s a lie.

Yeah, let’s go after Kyrie!

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109. "Harden out a month with a right foot tendon sprain..."
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poor Joel, man.

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112. "'no' would be a simple answer to 'do you have any antisemitic beliefs?'"
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but its kyrie so...

https://twitter.com/SNYNets/status/1588204070447321088

the kyrie character arc put into perspective:
https://twitter.com/iamrahstradamus/status/1588222369792811008

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116. "apparently kyrie didnt personally meet with the adl"
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and wasnt in personal contact with them.

he sent a proxy from his team.

he was asked if he met with them (in regards to the donation) and he gave some aaron rodgers 'immunized' type of answer like 'my team was notified that they wanted to meet and we handled it'.

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114. "wrong post"
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115. "There’s Giannis and everyone else, man. "
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Nobody is on his level.

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117. "NETS suspend Kyrie for "no less than five games.""
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118. "their statement sounds pretty harsh."
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1588316913016655872

hes not fit to represent the nets?

how do we think kyrie is gonna react to that? lol.

this is prolly the end of the nets season. even if kyrie comes back. theres no way that dude is gonna come back and be remorseful in any way and be focused on winning. dude is gonna be bitter for the rest of the season. i wouldnt be surprised if *he* just decides to sit out indefinitely at some point.

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119. "he's uncooperative and unremorseful"
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that statement he put out the other day was an awful "apology" then when they directly asked him if he has antisemetic beliefs he on some "but what about slavery doooe"

his career might be over fr cause he just cant admit he was wrong

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121. "im bringing back my prediction from the previous nba post."
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https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2774756&mesg_id=2774756&page=#2775049

i think dude is gonna dig in and start talking about the hypocrisy of joe tsai and his relationship to china and the abuse of uyghur muslims.

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125. "It wasn't "what about slavery" he was talking Black Israelite shit"
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Hoteppin hoard.

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143. "Ooh nevermind just saw the clip you saw. You right."
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I'd only seen the one where they ask him "the people want a yes or no, do you have anti-semitic views?"

And he says "How could I be antisemitic if I know where I come from?"

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120. "He shared a movie that cites Hitler to support its thesis."
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End of the day, I don’t really care how Kyrie reacts to that, lol. And he’s one of my favorite players ever.

All he had to do was say “sorry I shared this.” And he couldn’t do it. So he has to pay the price.

And I tell you this: if he doesn’t actually apologize? He’s out the league by Christmas.

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122. "Legit, this morning on LeBatard…"
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after the segment where they had Abdul-Rauf on the show…Amin said this meeting with Silver could be the end of Kyrie’s NBA career if it doesn’t go well.

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123. "i mean, i have a feeling Silver is gonna suspend him for the year."
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i feel like this is the Nets doing CYA like, we suspended him too, which is why they said "at least 5 games" because Silver is supposed to talk to Kyrie next week aka in at least 5 games from now.

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126. "i would pay good money to see that silver/kyrie convo lol"
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like 100 bucks

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124. "a fake hitler quote at that."
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the same one desean jackson posted and apologized for.

fam how are you so uninformed and gullible enough to think hitler gave a fuck about black people? lol. the guy pushing for an aryan blonde haired blue eyed master race apparently was big on enlightening people of african descent informing them of their true heritage lol.

theres still a high percentage chance that kyrie didnt know most of this stuff was in the book/doc but his stubbornness just wont let him say 'yeah i posted some shit i saw someone else post and i never checked it out' lol.

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127. "The stubbornness is 100% the problem."
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Because if he’d said the next day “ah shit, I shared this before I saw the whole doc, my bad,” like, shit would’ve slid mostly unnoticed. Because apologies from celebs go a long way with most people.

But dude is ALLERGIC to a real apology, lmao. It’s wild. Even when a very simple one would save your career.

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131. "he deserves all of the backlash regardless imo."
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whether he knew what was in the book/video or not.

because he clearly saw the entire kanye shit playing out...and thought to himself...let me chime in and reaffirm what kanye is saying about black people being the original jews.

he just didnt know what he posted included all of that other shit.

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208. "Narcissists don’t apologize like that"
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And he clearly is a big narcissist. Just look at his twitter page and how he talks about himself.

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129. "Sorry for what?"
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He explained that he posted the video as an open discussion on what antisemitism
is and what it isn’t. That’s what study is. That’s what investigation is. What
do you think we do with newspapers that post media bias, and bad information as well
as good and informative information? We read around it or we disregard it.

Max Kellerman even said himself that what Kyrie did wasn’t so egregious where he
should be suspended because he posted something for the discussion of information regardless of it having negative or positive content. Kyrie explained that several times.

If you have an apple that has rotten spots on it, you can either cut them out and
continue to eat the apple, or you can throw away the apple..The apple still contains
good nutrition to be digested. People feel that since the book/movie has antisemitic
content it’s not worth acknowledging or reading, and should be disregarded, others
feel differently because there is other content in the book worth reading.
That’s Kyrie’s stance.

That’s a matter of personal interpretation and opinion and doesn’t target anyone in that instance. If you’re bothered by that, then that’s a personal issue and has nothing to do
with someone who is interested in reading the book or studying the book for the sake
of being informed or aware.

Someone had to read the book and study the book to understand it’s meaning
and to identify it’s antisemitic language. That’s the whole purpose of studying
something to see what it is and what it isn’t.

But yet and still Adam Silver and the NBA can continue to do financially business
with China and support China while China exterminates Muslims and brutalize, jail
and kill other Asians…that’s genocide, that’s racism and that’s prejudice… and the
NBA is firmly in bed with that because they are of aware it!

You all upset over a post where Kyrie targeted no one, but you’re invisible and
speechless in regards to the NBA supporting and promoting genocide due to their
business ties with China …I guess the lives of Muslims and Asians don’t matter.


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132. "This might make you boycott the NBA?"
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In that case, I believe Adam Silver should suspend Kyrie indefinitely. We will miss you in the NBA posts, but we’ll somehow find a way to persevere.

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136. "yup, i wish L Stah well on his crusade against Kyrie's..."
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"persecution."

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145. "You’re okay with a team and league condemning and "
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punishing a person for posting a link to a movie/book for OPEN DISCUSSION,
and one that is publicly sold on a public platform for all to consume, but the same
team and league faces no consequences, punishments or pushback for supporting
a country that is racist, prejudice and commits genocide against another culture
and ethnicity?

You don’t see the problem here?

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130. "On Reddit they said the Nets encapsulate 6 outta 7 deadly sins"
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Pride - Kyrie
Sloth - Simmons
Envy - Durant
Lust - Udoka (presumably)
Greed - Tsai
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128. "Meanwhile in San Antonio..."
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link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/lawsuit-filed-against-san-antonio-spurs-josh-primo-over-guards-alleged-indecent-exposure/ar-AA13HNKX

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Lawsuit filed against San Antonio Spurs, Josh Primo over guard's alleged indecent exposure
Jeff Zillgitt, USA TODAY - 4h ago



The San Antonio Spurs ignored the team’s former sports psychologist’s repeated reports of Josh Primo’s indecent exposure, an attorney for the woman said at a press conference in Houston Thursday.

A lawsuit has been filed against the Spurs and Primo, attorney Tony Buzbee said. He plans to file a criminal complaint, too.

The lawsuit says Primo exposed himself to Dr. Hillary Cauthen nine times over the course of one season, starting in December 2021. Cauthen told the Spurs, including general manager Brian Wright, about the incident in January 2022.

"Rather than act on Dr. Cauthen’s reports, the Spurs ignored her complaints, hoping the organization could ignore and then cover up Primo’s actions,” the lawsuit says. “The Spurs organization was willing to sacrifice Dr. Cauthen to keep what they hoped would one day be a star player. Once Primo’s conduct entered the public sphere, the Spurs were forced to act and release Primo.”

“It took a long time for her to get a meeting with the general manager,” Buzbee said. “He postponed a meeting multiple times. From her point of view, it seemed to be they weren’t taking it seriously or it didn’t matter to them. … Instead of something being done about (it), what instead happened was they continued to call upon her to have sessions with Mr. Primo. She did not want to lose this job. She was hoping this conduct was somehow outside of the norm and hoping it was a one-time thing. Unfortunately, the conduct continued to occur and in fact escalated.”

The lawsuit says Cauthen met with Wright in March.

"In that meeting, she voiced her concerns about Defendant Primo’s conduct, again without disclosing any communications in her sessions or any other information other than the offensive conduct," according to the lawsuit. "Dr. Cauthen expressed to Wright that she was uncomfortable meeting with Primo alone and she expressed feelings of confusion, embarrassment and fear. General Manager Wright promised to develop a plan with regard to Primo for the remainder of the season and said he would explore "how to navigate” the situation in general. The two also discussed the possibility of meeting with Primo and his agent to address his concerning behavior.

"Despite Dr. Cauthen’s report, nothing was done about Primo’s behavior. Instead, Dr. Cauthen was called upon to meet with Primo again. This time Dr. Cauthen met with Primo in a public setting, but unfortunately this was no deterrent. Primo again exposed his penis."

Buzbee said Primo exposed himself to another person during the team’s Las Vegas Summer League trip in July and again last week in Minnesota – just before the Spurs released Primo, saying in a statement, “It is our hope that, in the long run, this decision will serve the best interest of both the organization and Joshua.”

Buzbee called the Spurs’ conduct egregious and unreasonable.

Said Cauthen: “The organization I worked for failed me.”

Cauthen’s contract with the Spurs was not renewed.

Just before the season began, the Spurs picked up the option year on his contract for the 2023-24 season. Primo, 19, was the No. 12 pick in the 2021 draft and expected to be a key player in the Spurs’ rebuild. It took the NBA by surprise when the Spurs announced his release on Friday.

Primo’s attorney, William J. Briggs, released a statement following Buzbee’s news conference.

“Josh Primo is a 19-year-old NBA player who has suffered a lifetime of trauma and challenges,” Briggs said. “He is now being victimized by his former team appointed sports psychologist, who is playing to ugly stereotypes and racially charged fears for her own financial benefit. In an act of betrayal against her young client, Dr.Cauthen, who is 40 years old, falsely claims Josh Primo exposed himself to her during the course of her numerous therapy sessions.

“Dr. Cauthen's allegations are either a complete fabrication, a gross embellishment or utter fantasy. Josh Primo never intentionally exposed himself to her or anyone else and was not even aware that his private parts were visible outside of his workout shorts.”

The Spurs released their own statement on Thursday afternoon.

“We disagree with the accuracy of facts, details and timeline presented today," the statement read. "While we would like to share more information, we will allow the legal process to play out.

"Our organization remains committed to upholding the highest standards and will continue to live by our values and culture.”

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135. "It will he interesting to see how this turns out, because the"
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Spurs and Primo’s lawyer stated that she is lying about the events
and incidents that took place and how they took place. Is this a situation
where the culture and mental disorders of Primo are trying to be used
against him for the purpose of financial gains?


Dr. Cauthen’s allegations are either a complete fabrication, a gross embellishment or utter fantasy,” Briggs said.

The Spurs said in a statement: “We disagree with the accuracy of facts, details and timeline presented today. While we would like to share more information, we will allow the legal process to play out.”

Tony Buzzbee is her lawyer, and we all know his style of lawyering. The Spurs are a well
organized franchise, and they dot the I’s and cross the T’s..

Can only wait and see on this.



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140. "They cut a lottery pick and pulled his jerseys for sale. "
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>Spurs and Primo’s lawyer stated that she is lying about the
>events
>and incidents that took place and how they took place. Is this
>a situation
>where the culture and mental disorders of Primo are trying to
>be used
>against him for the purpose of financial gains?

And you somehow think ^^^ this is on the table.

Yikes, dude.

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142. "Damn you can’t read."
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"Josh Primo is a 19-year-old NBA player who has suffered a lifetime of trauma and challenges. He is now being victimized by his former team appointed sports psychologist, who is playing to ugly stereotypes and racially charged fears for her own financial benefit.

His lawyer does, so apparently it is on the table…

And the Spurs stated that the women’s allegations of events and incidents are not
factual regardless of the Spurs cutting him.

You are terrible…like really bad at comprehension. Read the information, think first
and then type.

And I took no sides, and said let’s see how this plays out.

Now sit there and look dumb like you always do.

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146. "Yeaaaaaaah guess he’d be the first defense lawyer to lie. "
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Enjoy this one.

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148. "Now he is a lying defense lawyer?"
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and you have no proof of that. So I guess a black man
can’t afford the benefit of the doubt?


SMH.

I might have to leave this place.

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172. "You’re not leaving. "
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173. "Wouldn't it be great if he did tho."
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133. "time to talk about how incompetent joe tsai is as an owner."
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nets lost *30%* of season ticket holders from last year. they are dead last in season ticket holders now. they were among the worst teams in ratings last year (in one of the biggest nba markets and with multiple stars).

he gutted one of the most feel good and most likable teams in the nba for 3 of the biggest malcontents and head cases in the league. and gave them the keys to franchise.

traded 1 of those players for an even bigger liability with less mental toughness.

'put his foot down' and kept the 2 stars who clearly didnt wanna be there. no matter how shitty of a deal you would have had to take for them...it couldnt have been worse than what theyre dealing with now.

fired a coach less than 10 games after saying you had his back. about to hire a coach fresh off a misconduct/adultery scandal and throw him right back into a soap opera with an even worse team (on the court and otherwise). this one really blows my mind.

its like dude just goes off of what looks good on paper and has no ability to process the real life potential ramifications of these decisions.

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134. "ADL said nah take your 500K back "
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ttps://twitter.com/sbondynydn/status/1588333295234093058
The ADL is no longer accepting the $500,000 from Kyrie Irving, per the organization’s CEO Jonathan Greenblatt.

“After watching the debacle of a press conference, it’s clear that Kyrie feels no accountability for his actions. ADL cannot in good conscience accept his donation.”

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137. "man this warriors bench is unsustainable."
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and its not something you can just develop your way out of in a single season with these younger players.

theyre routinely giving up like 25-5 runs against lower rung teams.

their starting 5...on paper...has been the best starting 5 in the league (+/-). even with klay struggling.

you cant waste these few prime or near-prime steph years developing the younger talent if its fucking up a chance at a chip.

that perfect two-track transition is looking more and more like a pipe dream. realistically/historically...youre gonna have to bring in hungry/complimentary vets who can help you win *now* and then at some later date decide when its time to cut your older stars loose and start a hard rebuild.

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138. "lol"
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i looked at one point and dubs were up by like 16, all the starters are like double digits plus or close in +/-, and even the bench is all in the plus though not a lot.

i look 20 mins later, dubs are down by 8, the bench is well in the minus now (all of them) and the starters are barely hanging on to their plus +/- numbers.

so yeah, just shows anytime the starters have to sit in any combination and the bench comes in, they are just BLOWING it.

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139. "smh its the story of every game."
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also it says a lot that the warriors are committed to seeing what wiseman looks like...regardless of how bad the lineup looks when hes in. but kuminga is planted on the bench.

niggas like ty jerome and anthony lamb get more tick than kuminga.

kerr/steph said they wanna see jk get angry about the demotion. he must not be working hard and this is a last ditch effort to get him to focus.

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141. "yeah, they even wasted nice Klay game tonight..."
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vs. a team w/ ONE win.

something has to give.

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187. "thats not a normal terrible team"
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Suggs/Banchero/Wagner are 2 years away from being a serious problem

theyre talented enough to win any game, just not experienced enough to string them together

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165. "Steph leading the team in rebounds."
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Steph.

LOL

the vets will come (maybe). lot of space between now and the deadline.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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186. "he was leading every major statistical category just a few days ago."
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https://twitter.com/WarriorsMuse/status/1587635310313189376

this squad is looking like that 2019 team.

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144. "Kyrie apologizes."
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https://twitter.com/chrisbhaynes/status/1588377956900278272?s=46&t=oVVvzMlSAW0Ltkvy19w-fA

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147. "Good start. I truly hope it’s sincere. "
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151. "It's not sincere. Lmao"
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He had about twenty opportunities to apologize and chose not to...until he got suspended.

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157. "right. it's clear he didn't want to apologize."
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only now it's to the point he has to if he wants to play.

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158. "I mean, probably not. But…"
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I can’t in good conscience look at someone’s apology and say, “NOT GOOD ENOUGH” when he, finally, said the right thing.

What comes next is the more important part, but the dude apologized.

I do think a large part of “cancel culture” starts with people not accepting apologies. He deserves the opportunity to change. And so, while probably not sincere given the timeline and everything, I’m personally going to wait and see.

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199. "is it possible for him to only be 'antisemitic' at home games? "
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that covid half and half vacation looking mighty good rn to nets fans.


peace & blessings,

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154. "We’ll see when they ask him at the next press conference"
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I know Kyrie ain’t gonna be able to hold face when they press him

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149. "Don't know if this helps."
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Maybe he should read this on video while crying and thoroughly denouncing the movie. Demonstrate legit remorse over posting that Amazon link.

His contract can be voided over this so he needs to go on an apology world tour. Meet with everybody he needs to. Donate to more causes etc etc etc.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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150. "You’re silly as hell. "
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lol

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153. "hes on your side of the argument "
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>lol

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160. "No shit."
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190. "Don't lump me in with him."
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>>lol
>

Kyrie is wrong for his anti-Semitic actions. Under no circumstances is promotion of such film acceptable. Kyrie Irving faces punishment for his hateful, hurtful, and despicable actions. I do not agree with, stand with, or side with Kyrie's tweet at all.

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184. "I'm sure I'm not the first to mention this"
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>Maybe he should read this on video while crying and
>thoroughly denouncing the movie. Demonstrate legit remorse
>over posting that Amazon link.


but it is pretty messed up that the same folks going after Kyrie aren't calling for Amazon to pull that movie from their website. If I'm not mistaken, it's reached top selling status since this whole nonsense got kicked off. Not that I side with Kyrie at all for his views or his approach to this, but Amazon is literally the main source for what folks are calling hate speech, yet they are still profiting from it.

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152. "Hopefully everyone involved can build from this."
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Going forward, I wonder what Kyrie will do to curate his social media content so he doesn't get into trouble.

Perhaps it's because I'm an old head that doesn't post content on twitter/instagram and I social media doesn't hold much weight to me, but it's wild to me so much grief is coming from something dude posted on social media away from the court. To be clear, I'm not defending what he posted nor am I saying folks that got offended are on the wrong, but it's wild to me the crux of this is because of his away from the court social media posts.

First Anthony Edwards got in trouble in the pre-season because of his social media content and now this huge mess with Kyrie. Wonder if the league will look to do something about this is another incident happens that bring negative attention to the league.

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155. "He didn't fucking write that."
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If he'd written it there'd be about 20 words used incorrectly sprinkled throughout.

Kyrie fucking sucks.

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159. "yeah i think his account got hacked."
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156. "hope he's pressed about this until the day he retires "
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171. "^^this is an example of our inhumane society"
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175. "But anti-semitism is totally humane, to you."
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161. "Now his apology isn’t good enough and they want him to meet"
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with Jewish leaders?


He explained his position. He apologized. He donated money….

and that still ain’t good enough over a post of a link of an item
that is available to the public where he didn’t target anyone?

Don’t let them break you bro….

Tell all those hypocritical mofos to fuck off and go play BB overseas….
You’re paid and are worth millions. You don’t need those racist focks.

because none of them give a Fock about racism, prejudice or genocide, which
is why the NBA is allowed to do what it does.

Stern was a Jew and gave no fucks about the genocide in China….
Silver is a Jew and gives no fucks about the genocide in China….they know
about genocide and the holocaust, but give no fucks about the genocide of
other cultures…think about that.

But they coming hard at you as if you’re the second coming of Hitler… while they
are being anti-human and anti-culturalists towards Asian Muslims.

What a hypocritical/ double standard world we live in.


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162. "he's about to be playing in China"
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164. "making no judgement about whether kyrie should/shouldn't do this..."
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but Nick Cannon apologized, did a sit down, and now he's back to gettin' it like he never stopped.

so, IF that's Kyrie's goal (to put it all behind him and just get back to "normalcy") then maybe he considers this.

now, it seems like something like that might be going against what he truly feels about the whole thing.

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168. "Some of what you said re: racism is true, but beyond that, loud and wron..."
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He "apologized" (read: someone wrote a boilerplate apology template for him) only after the team made it clear that they'd no longer be tolerating his abhorrent bullshit.

It's phony, forced, coerced. He has no remorse. He meant not a single word of it. It's your standard "I'm sorry I got caught" nonsense.

The Nets absolutely should not take the bait until he shows actual, true remorse. Good on them (for once).

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170. "^^^ I rest my case. "
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174. "You should've a long time ago."
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On about 500 different subjects.

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177. "Why can't you care about the Uyghurs, call out China"
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call out anti-Black hate, *and* call out anti-Jewish hate simultaneously?

Incidentally, Malika Andrews had one of the most important takes this week on this when she called our society's tendency to always compartmentalize our defense of human rights and not embrace universality as it pertains to the respective dignity of every group.

It is possible to actually stand for justice across the board - and if we can't do that - then we shouldn't be surprised when everyone retreats into their own corners of the world and only becomes outraged when hate is directed to their own perceived group.

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163. "kevin durant apparently blames the organization and the media"
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for the chaos.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/269271/Kevin-Durant-I-Felt-Like-We-Could-Have-Just-Kept-Playing-Basketball-Kept-Quiet-As-An-Organization
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Kevin Durant spoke to the media following the five-game suspension of Kyrie Irving following his unwillingness to "unequivocally say he has no antisemitic beliefs." Irving later issued an apology.

“I’m not here to judge somebody or talk down on the life or how they feel their views," said Durant. "I just didn't like anything that went on. I felt like it was all unnecessary. I felt like we could have just kept playing basketball and kept quiet as an organization.”

Durant also appeared to blame the media for the situation surrounding Irving.

"This is the way the NBA is now, media, so many outlets now and their stories hit pretty fast now," said Durant. "So that's where all the chaos is coming from. Everybody has an opinion on the situation, and we're hearing it nonstop."

Durant published a follow-up on Twitter in response to his comments.
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166. "now y’all want to go after Kevin Durant.. lol"
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167. "KD's follow up coulda been Kyrie's response..."
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and then this woulda been over as long as Kyrie had kept his mouth shut.

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169. "Durant blamed the media ?! Ya don't say."
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179. "LMAO this gotta be the most unsavviest famous motherfuckers ever"
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blames media in an interview

immediately feels the need to clarify his comments by saying things HE DIDNT TELL THE MEDIA

Fucking idiot

how can you not condone hate speech but are mad at the nets for acting on someone promoting hate speech and blame the media for asking the difficult questions to someone who promoted hate speech.


what in theee entire fuck.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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181. "two legitimate cornballs"
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That said, KD tying his prime-ish years to Kyrie gotta be one of the biggest fucking blunders ever.

Kyrie was never on a GOAT trajectory and he was already suspect.


KD on the other hand was/is a truly special player who made some corny moves (signing with the 73-win team that bounced you, burner accounts, etc)...but he was still on a GOAT path overall.


Now he's spending his years dealing with Kyrie's bullshit.


Dude could have gone pretty much anywhere he wanted, and he hitched on to a tin-foiled-hat Rod Strickland. Hate to see it.

  

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245. "LMAO @ tin-foiled-hat Rod Strickland"
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>Dude could have gone pretty much anywhere he wanted, and he
>hitched on to a tin-foiled-hat Rod Strickland. Hate to see
>it.

That's gold, Jerry! Gold!


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176. "I do think there's a bit too much sauce on the Kyrie hate"
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People are equating him to Kanye when there's significant difference between the two controversies. Kyrie is stubborn for sure and easily could've calmed the situation from the onset by issuing a genuine apology for sharing a film that he didn't fully grasp in terms of how harmful it was, but I think intention is also important.

I don't believe Kyrie had intentions of harming anyone or being hateful when he shared the film, whereas Kanye clearly has bad faith intentions with some of his direct rhetoric, intending to be harmful.

I give Kyrie some benefit of the doubt as well because he's done objectively great things in the community, including generous donations/support to Standing Rock Sioux during difficult times. Generally, I think Kyrie is being genuine when he talks about loving all cultures/people. However, he did need to own up to the glaring problems of the film he shared and learn/grow from it, and maybe he will, just on his own timeline.

Also - the problem with demanding an apology (driven by media pressure) inevitably meant that there would be many (including many here) who do not accept/buy his apology. It was always going to come off as forced in this context, but now that he's issued the apology, I do think we have to accept it and move on, particularly if you don't assign any ill intent from Kyrie. If you think he's a rabid anti-Semitic bigot I can understand why you wouldn't buy his apology and would want him to be further punished for this, but I'm not so sure it's fair to characterize him with that brand of bad faith.

  

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180. "it's the tipping point on all his fuckery since the flat earth mess"
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ppl shot him a lot of bail over the years instead of just checking him then and time is up on him

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200. "Nice post"
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Appreciate the nuance.

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251. "It's a campaign against Kyrie"
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It has zero to do with so called anti-semitism.. If so, they would have gone after Amazon for hosting and profitting off of the documentary instead of Kyrie for retweeting it without comment.


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178. "Has Ime put pen to paper yet?"
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Cause I wouldn’t, if I’m him. The Nets are desperate, but he doesn’t need to be (unless there’s still some really bad details of his controversy that haven’t come out yet that would truly cost him all chances at a future job, of course).

He can probably wait around for a better offer or just coach the Celtics in a year. This team/franchise is a mess, and in a year you’ll either have KD and Kyrie still causing you headaches or your two best players are Ben Simmons and Joe Harris. The chances of actually winning a championship with this team are becoming slimmer every day.

  

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182. "If Bos was just gonna let him walk, i don't think returning there is an ..."
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otherwise i agree. The Nets have turn into the Knicks, which was always why would you wanna go coach there.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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183. "It would be hilarious"
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if Ime made a verbal agreement to coach the Nets and at the last minute decided to change his mind and sit on the sidelines for reasons you just pointed out.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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185. "dude could ruin his entire career in brooklyn."
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right now hes the bright young coach who reached the finals in his 1st year and fucked up outside the lines.

if he fails in brooklyn...he will be another scapegoat for this ongoing shitshow with a bunch of scrutiny on how he failed to relate to players who have shown they arent to relatable. udoka is a good coach but hes not gonna be able to change the force of gravity here. this shit is a snowballing disaster.

and theres a chance the team will get blown up anyway in a year or two and they are back to rebuilding without much draft capital.

i dont see why he would take on that stress...with such high risk and relatively low comparable reward...with all that hes dealing with right now.

nothing about this nets situation looks good for anybody (who will be) involved.

udoka could wait it out and land in a much more favorable situation with a more stable franchise and better outlook for the future.



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189. "exactly"
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If he waits till the offseason, he could potentially have his pick of a few different great coaching jobs with teams that are set up well for the next five years or so. Jumping into a messy situation with malcontent stars who are probably leaving and no real draft picks to speak of? I mean on the off chance that everything comes together, yes, they could get a ring this year. But more likely is this team continuing to be a mess, then being a shittier mess, and then he’s coaching the Thunder or an NCAA team in a couple years.

Maybe his familiarity with the Nets org gives him a different perspective, but from the outside looking in, this is one of the riskiest gigs he could take.

  

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192. "this really should be the reason he doesnt go lol."
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>Maybe his familiarity with the Nets org gives him a different
>perspective

dude knows first hand what that place is looking like.

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191. "elephant in the room: what if the nets play better without kyrie?"
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they look better tonight.

the ball is moving better and durant is currently on the verge of a 30+ pt triple double.

the celtics looked better when kyrie didnt play.

what if the nets just play like a better team with kyrie out?

do you bring him back or do you john wall him?

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197. "nets blew the wizards out by *40* lol."
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193. "Nike suspends relationship with Kyrie...."
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Kyrie 8 shelved
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1588691623038562307?t=tLRUNFbX-wT7hyeJ77jBWQ&s=19

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195. "he getting fried from every angle rn"
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deal was up after this year anyway and Nike wasn't renewing. but they had to get their lick in too

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194. "anybody remember when durant said he couldnt play with lebron"
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because the environment around lebron was too toxic?

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196. "the Warriors really must be ass. Cavs blow Detroit OUT"
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wasn't even close when they started cookin'. Only Cade and Jaden could really hang on offense. Evan Mobley was bullying them.

And neither DG nor Donovan played tonight.

Off to California. After we take on the Lakers and Clippers, we want the Gold(en State), sucka.

Steph Curry! We comin for YOU, NIGGA!

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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204. "Damn dude.."
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"Jays | Cavs | Eagles | Sabres | Tarheels"

pick a town and stick to it? People are like "Dr Claw, where are you from??"


"I'm.. *waves one arm slowly in front of him* from the land of the Iroquois"

  

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220. "The answer to that question explains it:"
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>"Jays | Cavs | Eagles | Sabres | Tarheels"

I'm originally from Western NY but moved 2 times, to Indiana and to SC as I grew up.

The reason I was born/raised in WNY is closely related to my parents (who are from the Carolinas) meeting and marrying in Cleveland (where I live today).

Through the WNY/CLE ties gives you Blue Jays, Sabres, Cavaliers

Though my basketball team could have easily been Knicks (who I supported in the 90s, they used to practice in Charleston near where I lived at the time), or the Pacers.

My football team would have been one of the following AFC teams: Bills, Browns, Colts in that order

It's the Eagles because when I really got into football, it was in pre-Panthers Carolina where Washington was the most popular team, and a lot of fans there were either their fans or Cowboys fans. Some neighbors of mine who were mostly Philly sports fans convinced me to their side. Been Eagles since, since it removed that AFC confusion.

As for college sports, Tarheels won due to NC family ties and that was the team. Could have easily been the Gamecocks though. That's all sports, though, not just basketball.

Since I didn't stay in one place for a while and the place I did didn't have any teams for the longest, I just stuck to teams.

Had I?

The NY thread would have been Jays/Bills/Sabres/Knicks (probably Cuse)
The CLE thread would have been all Cleveland teams (and probably OSU)
The Indiana thread would have been Pacers/Colts (and the last two teams a tossup. My cousin went to Purdue so I might pick them over the area's favorite Hoosiers, baseball might end up being Reds because they were a local favorite. Could also be one of the Chicago teams)
The Carolina thread would have been Panthers/Hornets/Heels ...and NOW Hurricanes (f/k/a The "Butt" Team from Hartford)

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

Jays | Cavs | Eagles | Sabres | Tarheels

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205. "RE: the Warriors really must be ass. Cavs blow Detroit OUT"
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steph .. didn't play lol.

Neither did Klay or Draymond

  

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207. "Pistons, not Pelicans (GS had full team for Det)"
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219. "correct. "
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the Pelicans game was load balancing.

The Detroit and Magic losses were WTF.

GS ain't got anything going on the bench right now. And their defense over all as a team is ass.

Just watching the way Detroit went up against the Cavs (for the record Detroit was killing Cleveland from 3 with much of the same crew last night more than once last season)... it was hard to believe the same team could go against any form of GS and survive


I do recognize that Bagley and Duren were out (latter might have been a help against the Cavs bigs), but offensively, they at least had their dudes (Cunningham, Ivey, Bey + Bogdanovic) up.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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198. "ty jerome might be the warriors best bench player."
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206. "The kids still traumatized from seeing dad beat the oldest sibling"
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201. "Nba refs don’t know what a travel is bc Jerami Grant took 4.5 steps fo..."
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Refereeing has been shit across the board though in the last decade , from AAU HS NCAA to Nba

>Simmons out tonight for the Nets. Where Brooklyn at?? smh
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213. "I agree, half the time they‘re just guessing"
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Terrible

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202. "Portland has championship potential."
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That Grant pickup was huge. That’s 4 players in their starting lineup
that can drop 30 and get their own shot.

Nurkic
Grant
Simon
Lillard

And they are playing solid defense

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203. "Dinwiddie say Tony Brothers called him a “bitchass motherfucker”..da..."
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209. "*shoulder shrug* If that’s how he feels then hey. Lol"
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210. "I’d give up AD, Russ and both our picks for KD, Kyrie and Seth"
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________________________________________
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211. "Thank God Sean Marks isn’t that gullible "
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Plus , the Jews in LA would not go for that one bit

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215. "That would fix no problems whatsoever for either team. "
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216. "Completely throwing it out there(c)OKS"
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212. "lebron comments on kyrie:"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVjOy0CxzTE (~4:55 mark)

kinda vague in a usual lebron way. but im glad he came down firmly on a side other than kyrie. he at least didnt waffle on some 'well thats *his* opinion...' shit.

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214. "Seeing all these premature dudes in here talk about GS…."
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is wild.

When GS mashes your team in the spring, come back to this post
to take your L.

8 games in and dudes talking about not watching GS anymore…weak ass fans.

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221. "RE: Seeing all these premature dudes in here talk about GS…."
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Not sure if this is referring to me but It’s so damn early for nba

Im tryna focus on my Niners figuring it out for at least a few more weeks.

NFL is king for most of us.

  

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217. "nick friedell seems like an asshole."
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i hate the nets for making this dude a regular staple on multiple media outlets now because someone has to report the constant drama.

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218. "he's definitely a cornball"
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222. "Conditions for Ky to return to the team..."
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https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1589056640682426368

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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I could see him not complying , ya know because he’s Kyrie, but that would mean he probably never plays basketball again

  

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224. "there is one condition that I find absolute dogshit"
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and that's donating to/meeting with the ADL, as if they have the authority on anti-semitism and "anti-hate".

you could pay me $1M and I'd only meet with them fuck niggas to tell them to suck my motherfucking dick.

a group that hides behind Jewish identity and atrocities committed against Jewish people to prop up apartheid regimes (both South Africa and Israel) should not be the conditions of employment.

if I were Kyrie, I'd give 750K to If Not Now, do the math on antisemitism with them and issue a joint statement.

he isn't that smart nor shrewd, as he's demonstrated.

this is how capitalism moves, the point that all the niggas talking about this have missed.


the Nets can suck a dick for this.
dude already faced consequences with endorsement losses, and loss of pay.

just cut his ass or "John Wall" him at this point.

those criticizing him and Con-Yay Mess have missed the point. same thing with DeSean Jackson. these crackas are calling them "Nazis" when really this is a specific kind of Negro foolishness of which they are unfamiliar.

a lot of the public Black critics know this but are pretending not to touch the issue to protect the bag.

the difference between those critics and Ye/Rie is that the former is under no illusion as to their relationship to capital. doesn't make them right, it just makes Ye and Rie look even more like dumbasses in the light.

ducking the real conversation outside of the rank antisemitism is why this nonsense will continue on and on and on...

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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225. "They on his ass lol"
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227. "theres 2 ways to look at this list:"
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1. we know most of these checklists are silly in terms of actually gauging if someone is genuinely contrite/changed (assuming that is the *real* goal). but we know how the game goes at this point and its pretty much the standard playbook.

2. its a very specific/simple list that clearly spells out a path back. if kyrie is really interested in getting on the court as son as possible...all he has to do is run through it quickly and put it all behind him. it makes it reaaaaal easy for him without a bunch of ambiguity/uncertainty.

the ball is in his court. lets see how he plays it. you cant blame anybody but kyrie if he doesnt sign on to their easy to understand terms. if this is the hill he chooses to die on...thats on him.

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226. "More Cavs talk"
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this Cavs squad may not ever win a title, I've accepted that.
but the JBB era has been much more fun to watch as a unit then LeBron's second tour of Cleveland.

LeBron is a certified GOAT, a much more interesting player than most of the players in that conversation, and a much rarer one. I think going forward, depending on how Giannis pans out we may never see anything close to that.

But once he got cooking as a talent, you traded off that greatness with incredible lows when that team fell off (or his energy was depleted). losses in that 2017-18 season that was the last before he went to LA were TOXIC environments. the locker room was a fucking mess often. it took the random pair of Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye to pull the team together.

from a basketball perspective: LeBron + shooters heliocentric offense as the league moved toward "Pee Pee Ball" offense had a shelf life (Luka and em should be careful continuing that legacy in Dallas). you see what it is in LA right now without the right personnel.

I write this because that Pistons win and some others this season have highlighted some basketball differences that I thought I'd never see.

First of all, Kevin Love. We know what he is as far as defense is concerned. Under LeBron, he was converted to a spot up shooter. To Love's credit he became awesome at that. Post-LeBron, it looked like he was gonna ride that contract out to immense frustration until he found amazing life off the bench.

NOW, he's moving more like he did in Minnesota with the playmaking and off-ball movement. And he's still a tremendous 3-point shooter. All of this could have been possible under LeSystem, and it was even said in offseasons past that it would be a focus. Never happened until now.

Caris LeVert is looking more like his Nets self, less a herky-jerky ballhandler but a guy who can show some multi-positional versatility, even on defense. This was what the Cavs were hoping for when they traded the Rubio contract to get some semblance of creation.

Under JBB, they reversed the "Kevin Love" situation with Lauri Markkanen, brought from the Bulls to be a spot-up shooter, and made a guy who could play either forward position, plus improved his shooting.

Still stings he got traded, because after FIBA (just like Rubio in the Olympics), Lauri is killing it with the Jazz.

It's this kind of transformative property and versatility that has me optimistic about this team's ability to compete. Something that people thought would be impossible after 2018.

Having a front office that actually is competent also helps (something we didn't have with LeBron 2003-09, particularly the first 3 years).

This afternoon, Cavs face LeBron and the Lakers, who have been stringing together some decent basketball.

Hope Darius and Donovan get to play this one.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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228. "I watched both Cleveland games vs. Boston this year"
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and they are *legit* af. Totally understandable how you would deem them more fun than the '17-'18 cavs, even if they don't accomplish as much (finals berth). But this squad is super balanced and full of ascendant talent - and they play with an edge that has to be refreshing to watch for Cavs fans.

LeBron v. Cleveland is always a special game on the calendar and is almost always filled with drama/notable moments (crazy comeback when he was in Miami. Bubble game staring down exec courtside, head-to-rim levl year 19 Bron dunking on Love etc...)

Will be fun to see what today brings. But Lakers aren't careful - this game could be over before halftime.

Cavs ain't nothing to play with this year. Top-tier (1-4 seed) team in the East by year's end IMO.

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229. "This is hilarious. "
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You were Cavs fan that year. No you’re a Lakers fan.

Doc shouldn’t even respond to you.

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231. "lol yea damn that's crazy."
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>You were Cavs fan that year. No you’re a Lakers fan.



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230. "whew... what a damn game. "
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Darius and Donovan dominated the first half for the Cavs, scoring a combined 42 but were trailing by 6 at the half. Both bigs in foul trouble.

Cavs came back in the 2nd half, holding the Lakers to 16 in 3Q, and forcing them to play half-court basketball. if it was transition, LeBron and the Lakers destroyed.

Ham pulled the starters with about 6 minutes left. Game got out of reach. Donovan rested quite a bit in the 4th quarter.

Hated the officiating in this game so much. though it benefitted the Cavs, that call on Schroeder was bullshit. how did AD get a foul removed?

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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232. "also DAMMIT I wish the Cavs could have kept Lauri."
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because LeVert looked like a Micromaster trying to guard LeBron LOL

ah well.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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233. "westbrook gotta be the most celebratingest nigga "
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with like 7 mins to go in the 1st quarter.

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234. "Rock the baby!"
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235. "all good until the last 5 minutes"
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refs put their thumb on the scale
that call on LeVert when he was standing in the corner and got bulldozed by Powell? bullshit.

DG started playing absolutely garbage on offense to boot. Donovan, who had barely missed from 3, didn't get the ball at all

Evan Mobley in bogus foul troubles, refs continue to not call hacks on Allen.

next time they getting cooked, even if Kawhi is in the building

on to the Kangz and Warriors

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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242. "1st time I watched Cavs this season (what are odds for them to make ECF?..."
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As long as Middleton's thing isn't a kawhi thing, I don't see anyone beating the Bucks.

But damn Spida... between how he looks, and how Conley/JC have played with this version of Jazz..what's Will Smith movie where he gets more powerful the farther away he is from Charlize Theron? Yeah, that. Rudy was their Charlize Theron I guess. Except he doesn't gain power too, he just continues to be shitty & shooting 3s like a halftime-fan contestant.

  

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236. "Did Jordan Poole scam all of us?"
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This dude been the most roller coaster player so far this season.

Last night? ABSENT.

Took Steph going apeshit to BARELY beat the Kings, and Jordan Poole was no where to be found.

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237. "Dray fault."
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238. "He didnt do much in the playoffs either."
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Warriors winning it all kinda hid the fact that he wasnt nearly the same player in the playoffs and regular season last year. I never agreed with the massive contract i knew he'd get. Way too streaky and absolute monstrosity on defense.

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239. "Who's "us"? lol"
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I've been saying on here that I have real concerns about how Poole fits longterm with that team, especially if Draymond leaves, because I think the defense could fall apart in a hurry. If Poole's not making his shots, his defense is bad enough that he's a pure net negative player.

For that reason, Poole always struck me as the sort of dude who long term feels like a 20 PPG scorer on a 30-35 win team. He was gonna get paid-- and his offensive performance the last 1-2 years and his development merits that, the money is well-earned... I'm just kinda surprised Golden State ended up being the ones to pay him.

Then again, when it's home grown talent, maybe they believe there's more there. And over time, Steph went from someone who was a zero on defense to someone who at least knew where to stand and how to not blow a rotation. Like, Steph *works* on that end, even despite his limitations. Maybe they think, over time, Poole can do the same. I'm skeptical, personally, but I'm also not a member of one of the best player development franchises of the last decade, so the fuck do I know.

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240. "what's really confounding me is he's getting minutes."
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i get not showing up if you're not playing, but if you're like instant offense (or you were, more or less, last season) and you're getting minutes, you shouldn't be putting up single digit points.

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241. "I feel like the incident with Dray expedited his contract & his minutes"
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243. "shit has the entire dubs team scammed us"
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outside of steph, dray, looney, wigs, and ty jerome?

that poole-wiseman 2 man game had me kinda hype in the preseason...and both them niggas been extra doo doo once the games started counting for real.

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244. "Can't carry the ball can't score lol"
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246. "Nets announce Jacque Vaughn as head coach. 🤔🤔🤔"
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247. "he should've had the job before Nash, with their current PR nightmares....."
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they couldn't afford to bring Ime Udoka in right now

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249. "He was the head coach before Nash was there."
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He was in the interim coach after Kenny Atkinson was fired years ago. Once Nash was brought in, Vaughn had to serve as Nash's assistant.

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248. "PR move. Not the right time to bring in Udoka…"
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but he will be brought in.

Vaughn ain’t it. Assistant at best.

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250. "Maybe but Vaughn is signed thru next season. "
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