Is it to early to start taking about this?

Does Kyrie opt out for a max deal? do the Nets give it to him?

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Kyrie needs to be on a per game contract, fa real.

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There's no way it doesn't address guaranteed contracts in regard to shit like this.

A few pods back he was talking about how he expects owners to push for GP tied to payment regardless of its “rest” or actual injury and thinks it could be the biggest fight at the table


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During his exit interviews he's been saying the typical
"keeping all of his options open" line. I mean, he's supposed to say that.

I'll be shocked if Zach LaVine doesn't resign with Chicago.

The REAL offseason move to watch with the Bulls is Coby White.
I think the organization is going to put their chips behind Ayo
and try to trade White.

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San Antonio?
Indiana?

Ha. He ain't leaving all that money on the table.

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That’s all you need to know. Loyalty is not his signature.

Plus Bulls don’t super max players. They didn’t
max Butler, and it’s not going to happen here. 40 something million
per for a defensive liability and 2nd scoring option?

We can’t have 3 weak defenders on the floor at the same time.

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David Griffin on an extension: …that conversation is going to be one that will be a challenge. Right now what we are focused on is him being healthy and kind of elite condition to play basketball…

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He can't wait to get *paid*
Not to play in NO
They need to trade him this offseason.

If not, they'll sign him, and he'll want out early in the contract, and then it will become a problem. Cut bait now before that happens.

>David Griffin on an extension: …that conversation is going
>to be one that will be a challenge. Right now what we are
>focused on is him being healthy and kind of elite condition to
>play basketball…

He shouldn't be saying shit like that publicly IMO, but he's right.

Then, we can talk about bread.

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Griffin shouldn't be expressing hesitation publicly like that, but he's right to be reluctant. Because you're right: he could extend and demand a trade nearly instantly, lol.

And the Pelicans played pretty well with McCollum and Ingram as The Guys. If you think Zion won't be able to take the court regularly enough to maximize on his absolutely absurd talent, and you think the guys you have are enough to build around?

Then I'd see if there's a team willing to run a sign-and-trade-- where they give Zion the extension they have available as the drafting team, and see if there's a team with a star or some package of strong pieces worth that amount of salary that they can bring in to supplement McCollum and Ingram.

Obviously might backfire if Zion can stay on a court, because dude isn't even 22 yet and already has an ASG under his belt, so the upside if it works out is super apparent...

... but if the Pelicans have two stars now (they do), if they think they can start pushing for higher playoff seeding next season (possible, depending on offseason deals), and they think Zion isn't genuinely interested in staying (clearly), then deal Zion to a team that is willing to ship win-now pieces in exchange for the insanely-high-future-upside swing of the bat.

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they've been garbage his whole life but his face lights up and he gets all starry-eyed when talking about The Mecca lol

I wonder what the Knicks would have to do to get him, Randle + picks to start with probably

>Griffin shouldn't be expressing hesitation publicly like
>that, but he's right to be reluctant. Because you're right: he
>could extend and demand a trade nearly instantly, lol.
>
>And the Pelicans played pretty well with McCollum and Ingram
>as The Guys. If you think Zion won't be able to take the court
>regularly enough to maximize on his absolutely absurd talent,
>and you think the guys you have are enough to build around?
>
>Then I'd see if there's a team willing to run a
>sign-and-trade-- where they give Zion the extension they have
>available as the drafting team, and see if there's a team with
>a star or some package of strong pieces worth that amount of
>salary that they can bring in to supplement McCollum and
>Ingram.
>
>Obviously might backfire if Zion can stay on a court, because
>dude isn't even 22 yet and already has an ASG under his belt,
>so the upside if it works out is super apparent...
>
>... but if the Pelicans have two stars now (they do), if they
>think they can start pushing for higher playoff seeding next
>season (possible, depending on offseason deals), and they
>think Zion isn't genuinely interested in staying (clearly),
>then deal Zion to a team that is willing to ship win-now
>pieces in exchange for the insanely-high-future-upside swing
>of the bat.

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With the NBA Draft three days away and free agency around the corner, trade conversations, signings and pursuits for all 30 teams have begun in earnest. Across the league, major free agents — and potential free agents — are being monitored: Chicago’s Zach LaVine, Washington’s Bradley Beal, Philadelphia’s James Harden, Phoenix’s Deandre Ayton, Charlotte’s Miles Bridges, Dallas’ Jalen Brunson, Portland’s Anfernee Simons and more.

But one of the most anticipated free-agency situations involves Brooklyn’s Kyrie Irving, who has a June 29 deadline on his $36.9 million player option for the 2022-23 season. However, multiple sources tell The Athletic that conversations about Irving’s future have gone stagnant between him and the Nets. An impasse currently exists among the parties that clears the way for the seven-time All-Star to consider the open marketplace, those sources said.

Irving joined the Nets along with Kevin Durant in the summer of 2019, though Durant missed their first season together as he recovered from a torn Achilles tendon. Irving made the All-Star team in 2020-21 and helped lead the franchise to the Eastern Conference semifinals alongside Durant and James Harden prior to an ankle injury in a series against the Bucks. After the past season, in which he played just 29 ngames and missed most of the season’s home games because of his decision not to comply with New York City’s vaccine mandate, Irving made clear that he intended to return to the Nets in the summer and continue to build with Durant and newcomer Ben Simmons. He has averaged 27.2 points, 6.1 assists and 3.9 rebounds per game and made 40.4 percent of his 3-point attempts in three seasons with Brooklyn, but he has appeared in 103 of 216 regular-season games.

“I don’t really plan on going anywhere,” Irving said on April 25 after the Nets’ season-ending sweep to the Celtics in the first round of the East playoffs.

Nearly two months later, it appears both sides have serious work to do in order to find a resolution that brings Irving back to Brooklyn and his co-star in Durant, who is under contract with the Nets through 2025-26. Several teams across the league have kept tabs on the situation, wondering about the future of Irving and Brooklyn.

The Lakers, Knicks and Clippers are expected to be among the interested suitors if Irving heads elsewhere, multiple sources tell The Athletic.

For the Lakers, the likely path to acquire Irving — and reunite him with LeBron James — would be Irving opting in to facilitate a trade, because the Lakers cannot realistically clear cap space to sign him themselves, and a sign-and-trade would trigger the hard cap, thus making acquiring Irving significantly more difficult. If Irving would opt in, Lakers general manager Rob Pelinka would have to satisfy the collective bargaining agreement’s salary-matching rules, meaning if Irving’s $36.6 million was the only incoming salary, the Lakers could send anywhere from $29.3 million to $45.8 million to the Nets and/or a third team in a legal transaction.

For the Knicks, the likely path to acquire Irving depends on what the Nets prioritize. New York is even with the salary-cap line for 2022-23 so it could clear enough space to sign Irving on a maximum contract by offloading salaries such as Evan Fournier, Alec Burks, Nerlens Noel and Kemba Walker. But the Knicks could also offer some or all of those players to the Nets or a third team in a possible sign-and-trade.

For the Clippers, the likely path to get Irving requires him to opt in, because they are significantly over both the luxury-tax line and the hard cap for 2022-23. To satisfy salary matching, the Clippers would need to send out between $29.3 million and $45.8 million to the Nets and/or a third team if Irving is the only salary headed their way. The Clippers’ scenario is less complicated than the Lakers, as the Clippers have a series of players making $11 million to $17 million to work with. For example, two or three of Norman Powell, Marcus Morris, Luke Kennard and Reggie Jackson going out satisfies the CBA’s trade rules, and they also have a collection of young players like Terance Mann or Brandon Boston who could help sweeten the deal.

A potential Irving departure would be incredibly damaging to the Nets because of their limited ability to replace him and his salary slot should Irving sign elsewhere as a free agent. A likelier path to any departure would be via sign-and-trade. Brooklyn owes $111 million to six players in 2022-23, not including Irving, so even filling out the roster with minimum salaries would put the Nets over next season’s projected salary cap of $122 million. If Irving bolts, Brooklyn’s strongest path to adding talent would be the full $10.3 million midlevel exception. Irving is also eligible for a new deal via exercising his player option and extending his contract from there, which could land him a starting salary of $45.2 million for 2023-24.

“We’re looking for guys that want to be a part of something bigger than themselves, play team basketball and be available,” Net GM Sean Marks said in May. “That goes not only for Kyrie but everybody here.”

For the Nets, the fate of Irving’s free agency is one to keep an eye on as the NBA Draft and free agency near.

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... that the offseason contains rumors that Bron would rather attempt to mend the fence with Kyrie and deal with all the baggage that comes with such a reunion rather than play with Russell Westbrook for another season, lol.

And Kyrie's obviously a much better basketball player than Westbrook today... but man, I can't even imagine what the team therapist would be taking on next year if they made that happen, lmao. So many hurt feelings, so many dynamics based on past, two easily injured stars alongside a 38-year-old Bron, I mean... good heavens. It'd be Christmas come early for sports media.

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LA instituted the same "Home players must be vaccinated" mandate as NY and SF. As far as I know, it hasn't been repealed. Though concede I may be wrong.

If it's still in effect, I could see someone like Caruso lifting it should he be elected. But otherwise, it might lead to the same impasse with the Lakers/Clippers that it did with the Nets.

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So as a GM, I would offer him a contract. However, it would come with
a PLETHORA of stipulations. It would basically be a pay to play
contract. He must be committed to playing all 82 games plus the playoffs,
barring injury. If he gets injured, that’s different. But if he is healthy, and
he is available to play, then he must play.

If he doesn’t play or suit up when he is a available, then the pay or income for each
game that he misses gets forfeited. That would be a fair contractual agreement.

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>If he doesn’t play or suit up when he is a available, then the pay or income for each
game that he misses gets forfeited. That would be a fair contractual agreement.


But something that gets enforced in varying capacities by teams trying to keep good relationships with players. We saw Philly refuse to pay Simmons...however, when kyrie needed that 'mental break' in the previous season, i think the Nets still paid him (except for when the league stepped in for his covid protocol violations)

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Fox is the same way. They are all slaves to their sponsors, and sponsors want
them to focus on big markets, or they will stop paying for tv time. Plus they want
them to focus on athletes who they have big endorsement deals with.

You’re forced to listen to podcasts for universal basketball talk,
and I hate podcasts. Platforms are HIGHLY subjective and bias,
and anyone can make a podcast.

I miss the days of a bunch of true sports reporters talking about all of sports.

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But if the owners wanted to tie pay to games played somehow, shit i wouldnt be mad at that.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

That is the recent hot rumor, and if that’s the case, the Bulls
have sealed their fate of losing for the next 5 years.

AK was supposed to be different from the previous management of basketball
operations, but he is just as bad. He traded away Gafford and Carter for a center
who has been absolute trash defensively, and our defensive rating is worse than
what it was prior to the trade.

2019-20 we were ranked in 9th place. We are now 23rd in the league.
We went from top 10 to shit in one year.

And now it appears they are going to re-up LaVine,
who is a defensive dummy, which means the Bulls are going to
be defensively dumb next year.



We are going to put the same dumb ass team on the floor next year.....
Save us Patrick Williams. You are our only hope. He is going to have to
accelerate his growth.

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...and didn't extend LaVine,
that was your sign that both the Bulls and Zach
had agreed that he was coming back for the max.
So none of this should be a surprise.

What also doesn't surprise me is your flopping,
as you were claiming that we had the best duo in the NBA
when DeRozan was having that great November/December.

This is the team.

From KC Johnson:
"Artūras Karnišovas has not once but twice publicly stated that he’s seeking continuity for his core."

I also think the LaVine signing secures our team for post-DeRozan.
DeMar has what...2 years left (if that) playing at this level.
Williams, Domsumnu, White, Ball are all under 25.
Outside of Ball, those guys are still 2-3 years away from their best basketball.
LaVine is the transition to that next core.

>2019-20 we were ranked in 9th place. We are now 23rd in the
>league.
>We went from top 10 to shit in one year.

You're willfully leaving out that that 2019-20 team didn't make the playoffs.
Last years team was in the playoff run all season, and at one point was the #1 seed.
But go 'head and get these takes off.

>And now it appears they are going to re-up LaVine,
>who is a defensive dummy, which means the Bulls are going to
>be defensively dumb next year.

When both Ball and Caruso were healthy, the Bulls had a top 10 defense.

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the best scoring duo doesn’t mean shit. I never liked Lavine, and you know this.
We all know Lavine can score, but he is shit on defense.

And you know this.

And you want to talk about flopping?

You the same dude that said Vuch is was our guy, and that
he was going to put us over the top....didn’t happen,
and it’s not going to happen. It’s one of the worst trades
in Bulls’ History. And I told you that when deal happened.

You’re also the same dude clamoring about trading Williams for
Rudy Gobert....which would be the dumbest shit in the world.

And when he develops into an elite player, I will be pointing you
out.

We made the POs only to get shitted on, BECAUSE our DEFENSE
SUCKED. I’m not sure what you don’t understand about that.

Lavine, Derozan and Vuch guarantees that our defense will be trash.

There is nothing about this team that spells championship in the
next 5 years..

And giving Lavine a 5 year, 200 million dollar contract ...a guy who has a questionable knee, fades in the second half of the season, and is a terrible defender....that contract
is going to go down as one of the worst contracts in nba history.....Tobias Harris 2.0

We didn’t re-up Jimmy, but we are going to re-up a defensive clown.

Ain’t nothing changed about this management.

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>We all know Lavine can score, but he is shit on defense.

As long as he can be serviceable on defense, I'm good.
And his time on the USA team showed he can be that.

>And you want to talk about flopping?
>You the same dude that said Vuch is was our guy, and that
>he was going to put us over the top....didn’t happen,

I can sit in this. Vucevic was a bad trade.
I'm hoping he can fix whatever shooting issues he had
last fall because his shooting is so key.
I don't recall saying he'd "put us over the top",
but I stand by him being a solid rebounder and playmaker.


>You’re also the same dude clamoring about trading Williams
>for
>Rudy Gobert....which would be the dumbest shit in the world.

I feel better about our chances in the playoffs against Milwaukee and Philly with Gobert in the paint.
I'd feel a LOT better with Gobert, Caruso and Ball.
That's a death lineup that I'd be hype to watch.
Unfortunately I don't see this deal happening because Ainge will
want to overwhelmingly win the trade.


>We made the POs only to get shitted on, BECAUSE our DEFENSE
>SUCKED. I’m not sure what you don’t understand about that.

Soooo yeah, every NBA move isn't ring or bust.
In fact, there is no one move the Bulls can make to get to the Finals.
I may have said before the season that I'd gladly take
a first round exit vs. not making the playoffs.
You gotta start somewhere.

But back to the Gobert thing. I just want the Bulls to put themselves in position.
The NBA season is unpredictable. People had the Nets in the ECF. What happened?
Bucks lost Middleton, then they get bounced.
The Celtics were playing .500 basketball and made the Finals.
As an NBA GM you just have to have your team hanging around at the right time.
There is no over the top because too many things can happen that will disrupt that.

>We didn’t re-up Jimmy, but we are going to re-up a defensive
>clown.


1. We should have re-up'd Jimmy.
2. I think the fact that we didn't sent a bad message to free agents.
3. Not offering LaVine the Max here would tarnish our image even more.

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