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"Ey Dem Folks Really About To Draft Chet Holmgren #1 Huh?"


          

they still keeping that hope/hype alive in 2022?

its funny to watch them talk themselves into this shit time and time again.

i guess its a lil more interesting this time with them betting on a project and not the typical 'nba ready' model.

ive seen someone call him a great lob catcher...and...well...thats definitely one of the first skills you think of building a franchise around. 🙃

somebody really about to mortgage their future on a player whose ceiling is cherokee parks with bad posture.

whats the definition of insanity again?

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Tell me you haven't watched Chet play without telling me you haven't.
Apr 23rd 2022
1
He is too thin. He got exposed in the tourney.
Apr 23rd 2022
3
      I’m def concerned about his frame.
Apr 23rd 2022
4
           he did get ate up in the tourney tho.
Apr 23rd 2022
5
           You’re not drafting him for a ready player.
Apr 24th 2022
6
           Enes Kanter is not a bad player. He has a nice offensive
Apr 24th 2022
8
           Explain his special skill to us Frank.
Apr 24th 2022
9
                ... did you read reply #1?
Apr 24th 2022
15
                     I really didn’t lol. Ain’t nothing special about his game.
Apr 24th 2022
17
They flooded us with basic layup & rebound highlights against scrubs..
Apr 23rd 2022
2
Yep & I knew who would be the 1st person in here caping for him too lol
Apr 24th 2022
7
the one who made it a point to watch him play?
Apr 24th 2022
11
      lmfao right?
Apr 24th 2022
12
      Everybody that watched the tournament saw him play a couple games and…
Apr 24th 2022
13
      I don't know, judging 45 mins of game tape is probably all you need.
Apr 24th 2022
14
      Lol, damn
Apr 24th 2022
16
      LOL
Apr 24th 2022
19
      ThaTruth takes ThaL
Apr 24th 2022
20
           No that will be for whatever team drafts him.
Apr 24th 2022
24
                Yea I see Sam Dekker pt II…
Apr 24th 2022
26
                     Chet is 7'1", Decker MIGHT be 6'9"
Apr 28th 2022
40
                          Well well well look who we have here lol
Apr 28th 2022
42
he's a good enough rim protector I suppose
Apr 24th 2022
10
He’s good. And if you can’t understand why he’s projected so high....
Apr 24th 2022
18
Why is Zag's Chet Holmgren so polarizing w NBA scouts? ESPN+
Apr 24th 2022
21
One of a kind prospect that we have never seen before???
Apr 24th 2022
22
      … do you think I wrote the above article? lol
Apr 24th 2022
23
have any of those Gonzaga dudes ever panned out?
Apr 24th 2022
25
Sabonis, obviously.
Apr 24th 2022
27
Nope!
Apr 24th 2022
28
I almost forgot.
Apr 24th 2022
29
Brandon Clarke looks pretty good
May 02nd 2022
48
      I was *really* high on him going into the draft.
May 02nd 2022
49
ESPN + Mock Draft swipe
Apr 25th 2022
30
Please let Paolo and Cade land together.
Apr 25th 2022
31
Yes please , & keep my guys away from Sac , and it’d be a success
Apr 25th 2022
34
      lol I say this every single draft
Apr 25th 2022
38
           The NBA Fan's Serenity Prayer. n/m
Apr 28th 2022
46
                Sacramento is the Ohio of California
Apr 29th 2022
47
Respectfully speaking, can you cease pasting articles
Apr 25th 2022
32
No….
Apr 25th 2022
33
Yeah, keep doing it please
Apr 25th 2022
35
      No prob nm
Apr 25th 2022
36
      ^^^
Apr 25th 2022
37
^^^^Another horrible Allstah take.
Apr 28th 2022
41
lol fuckin bootlicker
Apr 28th 2022
43
SO MUCH APPRECIATED by me
Apr 28th 2022
44
      There was no detailed write ups , thats why i didnt
Apr 28th 2022
45
Wouldn't take him #1, but at WORST he's a 13/4/3 guy.
Apr 28th 2022
39
2023 NBA mock Draft...
May 10th 2022
50
I think people are sleeping on Scoot a bit.
May 10th 2022
51
      NGL Idk shit about any of them except Victor bc of his intl buzz
May 10th 2022
52
      A lot of the Ignite games were on one of the ESPNs.
May 10th 2022
54
      /
May 10th 2022
53
      When did the Chets and Scoots of the world start hoopin?
Jun 01st 2022
56
I just KNEW this dude was a baseball or football player
Jun 01st 2022
55
Not much to fuss about... No matter who drafts him...he gonna end up in ...
Jun 02nd 2022
57
Dallas does not have a lottery pick
Jun 02nd 2022
58
jay bilas called chet a baby giannis.
Jun 21st 2022
59
Giannis wasn't even Giannis when he was drafted, no?
Jun 22nd 2022
60
this is how these dudes sucker themselves
Jun 22nd 2022
61
I trust JAY BILAS, Woj not so much lol
Jun 22nd 2022
62
if he is available when the Hornets pick… smh, lol
Jun 23rd 2022
66
      do the Hornets have a top 3 pick?
Jun 23rd 2022
67
           it was a joke
Jun 23rd 2022
69
Vegas books have swung drastically to Paolo at #1.
Jun 23rd 2022
63
"most of the "experts" I hear now are saying Jabari
Jun 23rd 2022
64
SAUCES are reporting Jabari,Chet, Paolo as 123...
Jun 23rd 2022
65
I always love the rumors leading up to the draft.
Jun 23rd 2022
68
jay bilas softened his language and now compares chet to porzingis.
Jun 23rd 2022
70
RE: jay bilas softened his language and now compares chet to porzingis.
Jul 07th 2022
72
lol that's who he reminds me of but i only saw some highlights
Jul 07th 2022
73
From the limited action I've seen
Aug 25th 2022
85
moved:
Jul 06th 2022
71
i'm off the anti-chet bandwagon.
Aug 24th 2022
74
people, man (c)Lorenz Tate in CRASH
Aug 24th 2022
75
Disregarding people cheering on his injury,
Aug 24th 2022
76
i mean he got hurt coming down funny off a jump.
Aug 24th 2022
77
      exactly....it's such a lazy way to approach it...
Aug 24th 2022
78
           that was the first thing i told my boy who was clowning about it...
Aug 24th 2022
79
           yup and people are overlooking the fact he altered *brons* shot.
Aug 24th 2022
80
A bigger question, are these pro-am games over?
Aug 24th 2022
81
Chet's injury happened at a game with an unsafe court.
Aug 24th 2022
82
      i mean the nba has had exhibition games stopped mid way bc of
Aug 25th 2022
86
           the ONLY thing that could have been done in this situation...
Aug 25th 2022
88
                I was at the Crawsover
Aug 26th 2022
91
                     oh i agree with everything you said even though i wasn't THERE.
Aug 26th 2022
93
                          Heard more about the court today
Aug 26th 2022
94
Firmly in this line now too
Aug 25th 2022
89
Will miss the 22-23 season....the internet celebrates! FUUUUUUCCCKKK!!
Aug 25th 2022
83
Holmgren out for the 2022-2023 season.
Aug 25th 2022
84
Got Sick for Vic
Aug 25th 2022
87
what a bummer, I feel bad for him.
Aug 25th 2022
90
7ft, 190lbs? no way that frame was making through the season...
Aug 26th 2022
92
damn
Nov 20th 2023
97
what a shot!!!!
Nov 18th 2023
95
Chet!
Nov 20th 2023
96
This post is going to age incredibly pooly
Dec 02nd 2023
98
lmao no he wont
Dec 02nd 2023
99

Frank Longo
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1. "Tell me you haven't watched Chet play without telling me you haven't."
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>ive seen someone call him a great lob catcher...and...well...thats definitely one of the first skills you think of building a franchise around. 🙃

Whoever said that, if they were attempting to describe Chet's game... is an idiot, lol. He shot 39% from 3, so he's a legit pick-and-pop threat. He's one of the best ball handlers I've ever seen for his size-- he ran the point in transition a good number of times, which is crazy for his height. He was also one of the five best defenders in college basketball. One of the best shot blockers in the game and absurdly mobile at the perimeter for his size.

Not saying he should defend the perimeter in the NBA or lead the break in transition as a pro... but his skill level is just so far above "lob catching," lol.

>somebody really about to mortgage their future on a player whose ceiling is cherokee parks with bad posture.

Yeah, I mean, the only thing they have in common is that they're tall, white, and have names that start with CHE, lol. I realize you were just cracking a joke, but their games in college were different in basically every way.

I don't know if he'll make it as a pro or not-- and I don't think I'd draft him first overall-- but the comparison is, like, a more mobile and better-on-defense Porzingis. So I get why a bad team would look at Chet and go, "oh holy shit, if this guys pops, he's a unicorn."

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3. "He is too thin. He got exposed in the tourney."
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Sat Apr-23-22 08:47 PM by allStah

          

Plus his shot is very slow. He will be serviceable, but not worthy of being a first
rounder. Also he is really slow in general.

He will probably be an Enes Canter type player with slightly better defense,
but he will still get ate up by Giannis, Ayton, Embid.

See Frank Kaminsky.

He will definitely get drafted though because of his size....serviceable big
to help protect the rim. He will make it in the NBA for sure.

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4. "I’m def concerned about his frame."
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But it’s insane to suggest he’s not worthy of a first round pick, and it’s insane to compare his game to Enes Kanter at all, lol.

I watched him play, like, 20+ games this year. I saw him in high school and watched him in person this year. Some of the things being said are just baffling to me. I might just have to leave this post, lmao.

I’ve no problem with people having concerns about him as a prospect especially pertaining to strength/frame. I think that’s a fair concern. But I don’t have much else negative to say about him. He’s got a lot of special skill for his size.

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5. "he did get ate up in the tourney tho."
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and i RARELY agree with allstah.

  

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6. "You’re not drafting him for a ready player."
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Sun Apr-24-22 01:03 AM by Frank Longo

  

          

You’re drafting him based on taking a big upside swing.

So him getting in foul trouble against Memphis and Arkansas and not being as effective— when any team drafting him knows his first year or two likely won’t be terribly effective, they’ll be dedicating to building his body up and getting him used to playing with added weight/muscle— doesn’t move the needle for me imo. If I’m drafting a guy at the top who I want to help me win now, I wasn’t going to draft Chet anyway.

I wish New Orleans could find a way to snag him. He’s the ideal guy to pair with Zion. They both love to run, Chet stretches the floor on offense and defends the rim beautifully, Zion can bully inside on offense in that space and play more free safety on defense since he’s not an ideal rim protector. Doubt it would happen, but it’d be real cool.

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8. "Enes Kanter is not a bad player. He has a nice offensive "
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game. He just has slow feet and can’t guard anyone.

And Chet will not be as good as Porzingis. Porzingis is offensively quick.
He is just injury prone and can’t play defense. But Porzingis is highly skilled
offensively.

I don’t see that in Holmgren. He is too thin and too slow.

Like I said, Frank Kaminsky or Luka Garza....serviceable

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9. "Explain his special skill to us Frank."
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>He’s got a lot of special skill for his
>size.

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15. "... did you read reply #1?"
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Or did you just read the subject line? lol

I literally answer the question within the very first reply of this post.

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17. "I really didn’t lol. Ain’t nothing special about his game."
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2. "They flooded us with basic layup & rebound highlights against scrubs.."
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.. all year long. The shit was ridiculous and he's gonna get somebody fired.

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7. "Yep & I knew who would be the 1st person in here caping for him too lol"
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11. "the one who made it a point to watch him play?"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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12. "lmfao right?"
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13. "Everybody that watched the tournament saw him play a couple games and…"
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he got exposed lol, shit is not rocket science

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14. "I don't know, judging 45 mins of game tape is probably all you need. "
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Btw, here's Sam Vecenie of The Athletic on Holmgren's last two games. Think this is an appropriate inclusion here:

The evaluators who like him noticed how terrific he was on defense in his minutes, shutting down the interior and holding the gates for a flawed Gonzaga team that lacked lateral foot speed to contain dribble penetration. The evaluators who don’t like him will note that he consistently was in foul trouble because teams attacked his body (and got rewarded with crummy foul calls). The ones who like him will point to the fact that he had 11 points, 14 rebounds and two blocks in 23 minutes before fouling out in a game in which he didn’t play particularly well — which, in the grand scheme, is a pretty solid night. Detractors will point to the fact that he still struggles a bit to create his own shot despite being able to handle in transition and shoot. The Holmgren conversation is going to be this year’s annoying dialogue that people who haven’t watched him play all year take up. It’s already annoying. Be ready for the takes!"

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16. "Lol, damn"
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19. "LOL"
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20. "ThaTruth takes ThaL "
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>

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24. "No that will be for whatever team drafts him."
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26. "Yea I see Sam Dekker pt II…"
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…but I also thought duck sauce was can’t miss and trae young would be too small and ….

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40. "Chet is 7'1", Decker MIGHT be 6'9""
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www.Tupreme.com

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42. "Well well well look who we have here lol"
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>>www.Tupreme.com
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>>https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

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10. "he's a good enough rim protector I suppose"
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the thought of him in the paint with actual nba bigs is pretty hilarious though. Let's see how he's moving in the fourth quarter of games late in the season after banging with a Jokic, Embiid, etc all damn game/season (LOL)


also, his three point shooting is fine. But when people bring up his shooting it feels a little like when Karl Anthony Towns calls himself the best shooting big man of all time. This isn't why you're here.





  

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18. "He’s good. And if you can’t understand why he’s projected so high...."
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That’s on you.

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21. "Why is Zag's Chet Holmgren so polarizing w NBA scouts? ESPN+"
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Gonzaga freshman Chet Holmgren has been atop ESPN NBA mock drafts all season, but that doesn't mean there aren't questions about his future at the next level in the eyes of scouts. The 7-foot and 195-pound Holmgren has had his unique frame questioned since his high school days at Minnehaha Academy in Minnesota. It didn't prevent the 19-year-old from coming to Gonzaga as the No. 1 prospect in high school basketball last year, but with the NCAA tournament right around the corner, Holmgren will be under the microscope in the eyes of NBA scouts.

What are the questions surrounding Holmgren's one-of-a-kind frame that makes him so polarizing for NBA scouts? Could a poor showing in the NCAA tournament help catapult Auburn's Jabari Smith or Duke's Paolo Banchero to the top spot in the draft?

Holmgren and the Zags will try to wrap up a No. 1 seed on Tuesday in Las Vegas when they play Saint Mary's in the WCC tournament final (9 p.m. ET, ESPN and ESPN app) in front of several NBA general managers and 40-plus scouts. ESPN draft experts Jonathan Givony and Mike Schmitz answer the questions surrounding the most intriguing NBA prospect in quite some time.

Why is Chet Holmgren so polarizing with NBA scouts?

Familiarity breeds comfort in the world of the NBA draft. Spend any amount of time with an NBA executive discussing draft prospects, and often the topic will turn to which NBA player future draft picks "remind you of." It's helpful to put prospects in context by comparing them to NBA players, to visualize their pathway to success and gauge their fit on existing rosters. How does James Wiseman get drafted over LaMelo Ball? Or Marvin Bagley III over Luka Doncic? Special can also be a synonym for scary in the evaluation process.

The "problem" with Holmgren is he's a one-of-a-kind prospect, the likes of which we have simply never seen before. There are no great NBA comparisons that truly capture his rare skill set on both ends of the floor, and that's unnerving in many ways, as we're operating in unfamiliar territory. For draft analysts, that's incredibly exciting. But for NBA executives whose careers hinge on making the right choice atop June's draft, that can be downright frightening.

Start with his dimensions. Holmgren was measured over 7-feet barefoot by USA Basketball last summer, with a 7-foot-5 wingspan. There are 16 active NBA players who stand over 7-feet, and none of them weigh anywhere close to 195 pounds like Holmgren.

The closest physical comparisons we can find are Aleksej Pokusevski, Bol Bol, Chris Boucher, Isaiah Jackson -- hardly the most inspiring or imposing group.

None of these players came remotely close to producing the way Holmgren has thus far. You have to look back to Shaquille O'Neal, David Robinson and Hakeem Olajuwon for lottery picks who put up the type of scoring/rebounding/blocking numbers Holmgren has produced on a per-minute basis, and none of them did so as freshmen.

Those are also true centers who did their damage inside the paint while physically dominating overmatched college competition. By contrast, Holmgren is shooting five 3-pointers per-40 minutes, making 43% of his attempts, better than all but two players currently projected to be drafted, both of whom are under 6-7. He is also shooting 74% from 2-point range (better than any projected draft pick), including 49 dunks, more than both Banchero and Smith combined, per Synergy Sports Tech.

Holmgren's ability to ignite Gonzaga's offense by pushing off the defensive glass, go coast to coast acrobatically, and find teammates off a live dribble are things that further separate him from other big men past or present. Despite towering over opponents, his mobility, lateral quickness and length makes him better equipped for guarding smaller players on the perimeter than strong-framed traditional bigs on the block.

Everything about Holmgren is uncommon, unconventional and completely unfamiliar. We have never seen a prospect like him before. -- Jonathan Givony

How much are NBA scouts factoring their evaluations of Holmgren based on the level of Gonzaga's opponents?
That process started long before he enrolled at Gonzaga. Thankfully, Holmgren has a fairly significant body of work to point to, which led him to be anointed the consensus No. 1 prospect in his high school class (from a fairly early stage). That process was muddled by the coronavirus pandemic, which prevented several opportunities to evaluate him against his peers. Holmgren cemented himself atop this class with standout showings at the Iverson Classic in April 2021 and the FIBA U19 World Cup last July, when he was named MVP after leading USA Basketball to gold. That team included fellow projected top-10 picks Jaden Ivey and Johnny Davis, while the tournament featured future draft picks in Canada's Bennedict Mathurin and France's Victor Wembanyama (who outplayed Holmgren in the final).

While some of Holmgren's best games have come against weaker competition (San Diego, Bellarmine, Pepperdine, etc), he's also had strong non-conference showings against UCLA, Alabama and Duke, as well as at home against Saint Mary's and home and away San Francisco games in the WCC, both of whom are top-20 caliber teams according to several metrics. By comparison, the ACC has zero top-25 teams for Banchero to match up with. It is safe to say that NBA teams have seen Holmgren excel against better competition, although they'd certainly like to see more head-to-head matchups with fellow NBA prospects, something the NCAA tournament should hopefully provide. -- Givony

How concerned are NBA scouts with Holmgren's slender frame holding up against NBA players?
​​You generally have two factions in the NBA regarding physical projections: The "body scouts" who value day one physicality, and the evaluators who tend to think more long term, noting that almost every slender prospect ranging from Giannis Antetokounmpo to Anthony Davis to Kevin Durant ultimately fills in with NBA strength and conditioning. You'll hear some of the most accomplished NBA execs rightfully ponder, "When is the last time skinny hasn't worked in the NBA?"

Yet there's still a contingent of NBA evaluators who seem more skeptical than usual regarding how quickly Holmgren will fill out, and by how much. You hear scouts say: "Look at his gait" or "I'm worried about his hips." Some evaluators said they left his underwhelming performances this season with "more questions than answers" regarding how he will survive physically in the NBA. Whether valid, others are even evaluating Holmgren's father, Dave Holmgren, a former standout at Minnesota who is lean himself at 7-0. Some see Chet's future going the way of Dave's, which seems a little ridiculous given the evolution of sports science since Dave's playing days.

As Givony outlined, there simply haven't been many players at Holmgren's height with his body type. Here's a look at how certain prospects were similar or different than Holmgren:

• Giannis Antetokounmpo, who was 6-9, 196 pounds entering the NBA, is a physical outlier who sprouted to 7-0 and added almost 50 pounds of muscle to his always-broad shoulders.

• Anthony Davis was 6-9, 187 pounds as a 17-year-old, yet weighed 222 pounds by the time he reached the NBA combine two years later. He now plays at 253 pounds.

• Evan Mobley tipped the scales at 198 pounds as an 18-year-old at USA Basketball and ultimately entered the NBA at closer to 215 pounds, which is around his current playing weight.

• Brandon Ingram was skinny coming up on the AAU circuit and is still listed at 190 pounds. Although there's been a clear physical progression since his Lakers days, Ingram hasn't seen a physical boom quite like Antetokounmpo, Davis, or Kevin Durant, who weighed 215 pounds as an 18-year-old and is now listed at 240 pounds.

• Rudy Gobert was almost 240 pounds by the time he reached the NBA combine as a 21-year-old.

• Mo Bamba weighed 196 pounds as a 17-year-old, yet eventually topped 225 pounds as a 20-year-old at the 2018 combine. He now plays at 231 pounds.

• Anthony Randolph weighed 197 pounds as an 18-year-old, yet was playing at a slender 230 by his mid-20s.

• Chris Boucher is another unique case as he weighed 182 pounds at the combine as a 24-year-old, and is now listed at 200 pounds.

• Austin Daye, who was 192 pounds as a 21-year-old, played a lot of his NBA basketball at 220 pounds.

• Pokusevski weighed 196 pounds as a 16-year-old with a better base than upper body, yet is now listed at 7-0, 190 pounds. Only able to compete in the Greek 2nd League abroad, Pokusevksi's question marks were more about toughness and durability than body construction, even with his narrow shoulders.

• Bol Bol weighed 208 pounds at the combine, but he was coming off a season-ending foot injury and weighed as much as 234 pounds as an 18-year-old. His frame is more in line with Pokusevski's than Holmgren's.

How does Holmgren compare physically? He doesn't quite have the same lower body or quickness as Mobley, even if he has a little more room to fill out the top. He's clearly skinnier than guys like Gobert, and even Davis and Durant at the same stage (Holmgren turns 20 on May 1). Although a bit lighter, he's tougher than Pokusevski, Bol and Bamba. We don't have combine measurements for Kristaps Porzingis, but he had a more projectable frame at the same stage, especially in the lower body, and plays at around 240 pounds now.

In terms of body construction with somewhat narrow hips, almost zero backside, high and wide shoulders, long arms and movements that are rangier, a 7-1 Ingram is probably the closest physical comparison to Holmgren in terms of frame. And Holmgren, who looked a bit stronger when I saw him Monday night against San Francisco, has more physical upside given his height and reach, and his fluidity is nothing short of spectacular.

The question then becomes, if Holmgren is truly closer to a 7-1 Ingram physically than Gobert, Mobley or Durant, what does that mean for his long-term projection? Where will being thin affect him, and for how long, if at all? Surely, Holmgren figures to struggle with the physicality of bigs such as Joel Embiid and Nikola Jokic when they play out of the post. Most NBA bigs do. Watching Estonian Saint Mary's big man Matthias Tass have his way with Holmgren on a few possessions in a recent loss re-emphasized that point. Whether in the post or on a drive from a physical big such as Banchero (see their November matchup), Holmgren will take his lumps. But will Holmgren have to check Embiid and Jokic in those matchups? As Givony outlined, Holmgren is also capable of playing the 4 early in his career because of his mobility and defensive range, even if it's not quite to Mobley's level in terms of switch ability. That has surely helped Mobley, who doesn't have to worry about consistently banging inside while alongside center Jarrett Allen.

It's also important to note how many shots Holmgren's length and timing changes versus how many points he gives up by sheer force and physicality. It's the quiet toughness and mean streak he plays with -- which has similarly helped a guy like Ingram find so much success in the NBA -- that will help him hold up more than his biggest naysayers suggest. And as we've seen with Mobley being one of the NBA's top rim defenders in the league already at 215 pounds, you don't need to be Hercules to be a great rim protector. Holmgren is blocking more shots per 40 minutes (5.3 to 5.0) against teams over .500, with at least 10 altered shots against Alabama. His biggest NBA fans praise the nastiness his plays with, as do opposing coaches.

"He's a generational player," San Francisco coach Todd Golden recently said after a narrow loss to Gonzaga and Holmgren, who went for 21 points, 15 rebounds and six blocks. "Obviously he's skinny. There are times when he looks like Bambi out there. But he really doesn't get overpowered out there. He can fight the fight. We have some grown men in our front line . He can bang with those guys."

The other concern would be on the defensive glass, yet Holmgren's reach and toughness still outshine his lack of physicality, as he's regularly tapping the ball to himself or an open teammate or snatching the ball in traffic, even if he takes at least a few hard spills to the floor every game. It's important to note rebounds are far more uncontested in the NBA than in college. Offensively, Holmgren's finishing should translate even with his lean frame given his reach and the fact he's an agile lob-catcher. For reference, Mobley is posting a 73.8% eFG% in the restricted area, good for 18th out of 44 high volume finishers.

Where Holmgren could get in trouble is when teams switch on him to take away his pick-and-pop 3 and force him into post isolations, where he's easily pushed off his spots. But I imagine we'll see more and more of Holmgren's Dirk Nowitzki fallaway in the NBA, and the fact that he can handle, shoot off the dribble and pass at 7-1 will allow him to overcome some of the physicality concerns.

Teams seem slightly more concerned about Holmgren's frame than previous slender prospects, yet with the NBA being more of a "length and skill" league, some of the most respected voices are clearly optimistic that what he does well will translate to the NBA. The questions are more along the lines of durability. You never want to fully downplay any physical concerns (Zion Williamson, Porzingis), but Holmgren has never needed to rely on physicality to have an impact, and that shouldn't change at the next level. Holmgren is maybe the most intriguing prospect I've evaluated not named Wembanyama over the past decade or so, skinny frame and all, and has done nothing to show me he shouldn't be the No. 1 pick in June. -- Mike Schmitz

How important will Holmgren's performance in the NCAA tournament be for his draft status? Is there a scenario where he plays his way out of the top 3?
It's hard to envision a scenario in which Holmgren drops draft wise, even if Gonzaga suffers an early upset in the first weekend, but that will also depend on how Duke's Banchero and Purdue's Jaden Ivey finish their seasons. Teams don't tend to overreact to one bad single-game performance in an environment like the NCAA tournament. With that said, leading Gonzaga to the Final Four with some strong performances against NBA-caliber big men would go a long way in solidifying himself at No. 1.

Holmgren entered college in a very different situation than Banchero and Jabari Smith, playing alongside two upperclassmen in Drew Timme and Andrew Nembhard that put him in more of a complementary role. He looked passive at times in non-conference play, blending in and wanting to play the right way, passing up quite a few open shots in the process. He has looked like a completely different player in the WCC, allowing him to gain confidence while showing different facets of his game. Dominating in March like he has the past two months would bolster his cause significantly.

Gonzaga's coaching staff privately says they've encouraged Holmgren to be much more assertive recently and have found ways to utilize his unique skill set while still playing through Timme as their clear-cut go-to guy. Holmgren's struggles with the physicality of teams such as Texas, Texas Tech and Saint Mary's in Gonzaga's lone WCC loss does put some pressure on him to perform better in the NCAA tournament against those types of tough, veteran frontcourts. But it's difficult to see him falling out of the top-two based on what NBA teams are currently saying privately. -- Givony

Which of the most likely top-5 teams in the 2022 NBA draft would be best-suited to developing Holmgren at the next level? Which could be the worst fit?
Finding a situation in which Holmgren can play alongside a more physically developed interior force early on in his career -- while still being able to slide up to the 5 for stretches like Mobley does -- will be key. According to CleaningTheGlass.com, 13% of Mobley's minutes come at the 5, which feels like a solid target range for Holmgren. What teams in the top-10 can provide that?

The Detroit Pistons jump out. I love Holmgren's fit alongside Isaiah Stewart in the frontcourt. Although he lacks in the height and vertical pop departments, Stewart is as physical of a center as you'll find in the NBA, and he's proven he's more than willing to throw his weight around with anyone regardless of stature. Stewart checking 5s would allow Holmgren to function more as a rover, using his length and instincts to change shots at the rim from the weakside or roam the perimeter on switches. Having big-bodied guards and wings in Cade Cunningham and Saddiq Bey would also allow the Pistons to switch more and take away offensive rebounds when Holmgren has to converge on downhill guards in pick-and-roll drop situations.

Then there would be the offensive fit with Cunningham. The Pistons rank 29th in 3-point accuracy, and Cunningham is in dire need of a floor-spacing big like Holmgren to give him room to operate. Holmgren doesn't play with an offensively aggressive, scorer-mentality, which fits well next to a hungry bucket-getter like Bey and allows him to also operate more as a third option with Cunningham running the controls. Mobley not having to be Cleveland's primary offensive option alongside Darius Garland, Allen, Collin Sexton (when healthy) and Caris LeVert is a big reason why he's looked so comfortable, so early in his career. The Pistons could offer a similar platform to function as an offensive blender and defensive rover.

Holmgren is also an interesting fit next to the Orlando Magic's 250-pound Wendell Carter Jr. and Franz Wagner when Holmgren slides up to the 5. He'd mesh well with a post savant such as a 245-pound Alperen Sengun, (at least offensively) in Houston, as Sengun has some of the same strengths and weaknesses as Zags big man Timme.

Although they're currently projected outside the top-5, the big I'd like to see Holmgren paired with most is former Zag Domantas Sabonis in Sacramento. The Lithuanian lefty is powerful enough to battle traditional centers in the post, yet doesn't really shoot 3s or protect the rim, both things that Holmgren is elite at. The type of pick-and-roll combinations you could run with Sabonis and Holmgren would be glorious to watch. To a lesser degree, Holmgren could also unlock the best version of New York's Julius Randle.

As far as the most questionable fit, I'm not sure how Holmgren would look alongside some of the Pacers' current bigs. While he'd be must-see TV in pick-and-roll with guard Tyrese Haliburton, I'd be curious to see how he'd work alongside center Myles Turner, who, although a tremendous rim protector, isn't traditionally a great rebounder and prefers to do most of his damage beyond the arc offensively, like Holmgren. Rookie Isaiah Jackson, who has had some tremendous moments thus far, is incredibly light in his own right and doesn't have the body to bang with the 5s Holmgren will need him to early in his career. Holmgren is ultimately a much better player than all the aforementioned bigs, so his fit alongside key pieces like Haliburton and Chris Duarte should take priority. If the Rockets are committed to Christian Wood long-term, I'd wonder about that fit, as he makes more sense next to Sengun than Wood. -- Schmitz

Jonathan Givony is an NBA Draft expert and the founder and co-owner of DraftExpress.com, a private scouting and analytics service utilized by NBA, NCAA and International teams.

Mike Schmitz is an NBA Draft expert and a contributor to DraftExpress.com, a private scouting and analytics service utilized by NBA, NCAA and International teams.

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22. "One of a kind prospect that we have never seen before???"
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Good lord. This is worse than when dudes where drooling over Porzingis.

Frank, this is going to be worse than your top 3 Lakers prediction.

You need to ABORT.

I hope he does go number 1, so dudes can target his ass and send him
to the G league. I get the white hype job in the NFL, but in the NBA?

We ain’t having it.

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23. "… do you think I wrote the above article? lol"
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I haven’t really said anything controversial in this post at all.

I told you he was very good in college (he was).
I told you about the things that make him unique as a prospect.
I told you I understand his upside.

I also told you I wouldn’t take him #1 in all likelihood, and I also told you his frame does concern me.

So.. I don’t really know what bold claim you think I made here, other than the bold claim of understanding why the consensus of NBA scouts and GMs believe he’s a contender for the #1 pick and shooting down a couple player comparisons that made no sense in relation to how Holmgren plays.

Also, Porzingis has averaged 19/8 for his career and made an All-Star Game. If you think he’s anywhere near Zingis, of course you take him Top 3. That’s a given. I don’t even like Porzingis and that’s a given, lmao.

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25. "have any of those Gonzaga dudes ever panned out?"
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a lot of people hyped Suggs last year but he couldn't even beat out Greg Anthony's son for a starting job, he wasn't even the best rookie on his team

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27. "Sabonis, obviously."
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Most PGs struggle with efficiency year 1 in the NBA, especially on bad rosters, so not surprised that Suggs struggled. I still really like him long term.

But Gonzaga normally doesn't have recruits of the pedigree of Sabonis/Suggs/Holmgren. So not too much of a surprise that some of their better players like Hachimura or Brandon Clarke have become Just Guys in the league. Hachimura was 152nd in the RCSI (Recruiting Services Consensus Index), and Clarke didn't even make the list.

But Suggs was 11th in the RCSI, and Holmgren was... #1, lol. Easily their biggest two blue chip recruits to date. It'll be interesting to see if they can shine in the league, and it'd then be interesting to see what that means going forward for Zags recruiting.

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Morrison- Trash
Turiaf- Trash
Suggs - Trash
Hachimura - Trash....

Now Brandon Clarke can ball. I like him, but that’s about it.

FSU has out produced the Zags, and they are a football schoool.

Sabonis doesn’t count. Straight genetics, and a product of Europe.

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29. "I almost forgot."
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Killian Tillie- Super Trash

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and imma need you to take a position on Suggs now in the likely case he takes a big step

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49. "I was *really* high on him going into the draft."
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https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2697432&mesg_id=2697432&listing_type=search#2698069

I've admittedly been discouraged by his last season, in which he regressed (though injury definitely played a role), and this season pre-playoffs, when his role really regressed to the point of being not in the rotation at times. I kinda began to wonder if, considering his occasional health issues, his occasional consistency issues, and the fact that he'll be 26 next season, if instead of being this high-upside, high-efficiency two-way guy if he was instead, in fact, Just a Guy.

I do like what I've seen in the playoffs, and I love what I've seen in spurts... hopefully he can stick around and stay healthy long enough to really become a Starter on a Contender kinda dude.

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(Two Buckeyes projected to go first round...#footballschool)

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As the NBA playoffs continue and we draw ever closer to the NBA draft lottery in Chicago on May 17, matching players with prospective teams has become something more than a theoretical exercise. Teams beyond those in the lottery have established their draft positions ahead of the 2022 NBA draft on June 23rd.

ESPN draft experts Jonathan Givony and Mike Schmitz have spent the season evaluating all of the prospects who might be selected at the draft, talking to NBA team executives and scouts, and considering the likeliest paths for players and teams. Givony and Schmitz's latest NBA mock draft accounts for the draft order released by the NBA at the conclusion of the play-in tournament, including picks owed and owned by all 30 teams.

The top three teams on the board and worst three teams in the league this season -- the Houston Rockets, Orlando Magic and Detroit Pistons -- each carry 14% odds to secure the No. 1 overall pick. Gonzaga's Chet Holmgren, Auburn's Jabari Smith and Duke's Paolo Banchero are still considered the most likely candidates to go in the top 3.


1. Houston Rockets

Chet Holmgren
Gonzaga
PF
Age: 19.9

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The Rockets drafted a franchise building block in Jalen Green last year and will now likely look to improve their frontcourt, which happens to be the strength of this class. In Holmgren, the Rockets can acquire the draft's biggest difference-maker defensively, a force on the glass and a rim-protector who also shot 39% from beyond the arc and brings significant upside as a passer, finisher and shot creator. Holmgren's game should complement Green well, while also not detracting from what Houston's existing frontcourt pieces -- Alperen Sengun and Christian Wood -- offer. Jabari Smith and Paolo Banchero would also be extremely attractive here and will likely be in play at No. 1 regardless of who lands this pick. The team that gets it will have a tough choice. -- Givony


2. Orlando Magic
Jabari Smith
Auburn
SF/PF
Age: 18.9

The Auburn star forward would give a Magic team that ranked 28th in the NBA in 3-point percentage a season ago one of the best shooters in the draft (43% from 3) at 6-foot-10 with the type of defensive versatility Orlando generally covets. Smith's incredibly high floor combined with his age, trajectory at just 18 years old and ability to shoot over the top of virtually any defender from all over the floor makes him as strong a candidate as any to hear his name called first overall. The Magic would have to be thrilled to pair him with similarly versatile forwards like Franz Wagner and Jonathan Isaac (when healthy) while giving Jalen Suggs and Cole Anthony an ideal pick-and-pop partner who can also punish switches with his polished midpost game. Smith immediately makes the Magic more competitive on both ends of the floor while brightening their long-term outlook. -- Schmitz


3. Detroit Pistons
Paolo Banchero
Duke
PF/C
Age: 19.4

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The Pistons struck gold in potential rookie of the year Cade Cunningham last year and can now look to add another dynamic frontcourt player who can help shoulder offensive responsibility. Banchero's ability to create offense off the dribble both for himself and teammates should pair well with the versatility, basketball instincts and perimeter shooting Cunningham offers. Banchero could start next to a physical big man like Isaiah Stewart and then slide to the 5 and operate alongside another perimeter-oriented forward like Jerami Grant or Saddiq Bey, making him a strong fit for the Pistons long-term. Smith and Holmgren will also surely be in play here depending on where the Pistons land. -- Givony


4. Oklahoma City Thunder
Jaden Ivey
Purdue
PG/SG
Age: 20.1

While Oklahoma City is already flush with talent on the perimeter in Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Josh Giddey, Ivey has as much long-term upside as any prospect in the draft, and he would offer an immediate injection of transition speed, quickness and leaping ability that would rival even the league's elite. Drafting another guard who is best with the ball in his hands wouldn't be the most natural fit on paper, but Ivey's talent and star power could be too tantalizing to pass up. Ivey also has experience playing in multiguard lineups, and the fact that he's improved greatly as a spot-up shooter (36% from 3) would allow him to play alongside SGA and Giddey while buying him time to sharpen the lead-guard acumen he'll need to maximize his sky-high upside. -- Schmitz


5. Indiana Pacers
Keegan Murray
Iowa
PF/C
Age: 21.6

Domantas Sabonis was traded to Sacramento, leaving the Pacers with a gaping hole at power forward that could be plugged very effectively by Murray, arguably the best player in college basketball this past season. Murray doesn't need plays called for him to be effective and looks like a strong fit alongside backcourt starters Tyrese Haliburton and Malcolm Brogdon. His perimeter shooting and defensive versatility could even allow him to see some time at small forward in supersized lineups alongside the likes of Myles Turner and Isaiah Jackson. Indiana may be disappointed not to move into the top-4 on the night of the lottery in this scenario, but Murray should quell that quickly with a Rookie of the Year-caliber campaign. -- Givony


6. Portland Trail Blazers
Shaedon Sharpe
Kentucky
SG
Age: 18.8

With the Trail Blazers clearing the books and going younger and more development-focused at the moment, 18-year-old Sharpe makes a lot of sense here. The former No. 1 player in his high school class, Sharpe is a smooth shot creator who shoots it easy from 3, is effortless getting to his spots off the bounce, can play above the rim explosively, and at least has the tools and size (6-foot-6, 7-0 wingspan) to eventually evolve into a serviceable defender as he gains experience. After watching him live at Kentucky practice this season, Sharpe is also an underrated passer with the offensive talent you see from NBA All-Stars. Sharpe may not be ready to help turn the Blazers into a playoff contender as a rookie, but given the recent success of physically gifted, shot-creating guards like Anthony Edwards, he's a valuable talent at this part of the draft, as there simply aren't many other players who can create offense like he can. -- Schmitz


7. Sacramento Kings
Johnny Davis
Wisconsin
PG/SG
Age: 20.1

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Swapping Tyrese Haliburton for Domantas Sabonis, the Kings could very well be in the market for an upgrade on the perimeter, especially at the shooting guard position. Enter Davis, who brings many of the winning intangibles the Kings should be looking for with his defensive versatility, unselfishness and ability to score with or without the ball. Davis would fit well alongside either De'Aaron Fox or Davion Mitchell and could even see some minutes alongside the two thanks to the toughness he offers. The Kings' pathway back to contention, or even making the playoffs, isn't perfectly clear at this stage, but nailing their coaching hire and this draft pick would go a long way in helping them return to respectability. -- Givony


8. New Orleans Pelicans (via Lakers)
AJ Griffin
Duke
SF/PF
Age: 18.6

With three rookies already making valuable contributions in postseason play in Herbert Jones, Trey Murphy III and Jose Alvarado, the Pelicans add yet another floor spacer to fit alongside Brandon Ingram, CJ McCollum and Zion Williamson (if healthy). Although he still has a ways to go defensively, the 18-year-old Griffin is one of the best spot-shooters in the draft (45% from 3), with underrated ball skills and the strength (225 pounds) and length (7-0 wingspan) to develop into a sound defender as he improves his technique and awareness. The Pelicans have proved they clearly value wings with positional versatility, and Griffin is the best on the board in this part of the draft. With Ingram, McCollum and potentially Williamson as the primary shot creators, adding another off-ball threat who doesn't need offensive volume to add value makes sense for the surging Pelicans. -- Schmitz


9. San Antonio Spurs
Jalen Duren
Memphis
C
Age: 18.4

The Spurs have focused heavily on adding perimeter pieces in the draft the past few years, with Devin Vassell, Joshua Primo, Lonnie Walker IV and Keldon Johnson forming a solid backcourt core with Dejounte Murray. They may look to the frontcourt in this draft, where they don't have quite as much depth. Duren is the most physically gifted big man in this class, bringing impressive finishing prowess as well as outstanding defensive potential as both a rim-protector and guarding pick-and-roll. As the youngest player in this class, he has considerable upside to grow into as well. -- Givony


10. Washington Wizards
Dyson Daniels
G League Ignite
PG/SG
Age: 19.0

While Daniels might not be the conventional "point guard of the future" the Wizards have been searching for since the departure of John Wall, Daniels is a picture-perfect fit alongside Bradley Beal. At 6-8, the unselfish Daniels plays the type of ball-moving style that complements Washington's high-usage star. Although comfortable playing pick-and-roll and functioning as a lead guard for stretches, Daniels doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective, as he's a smart cutter, active rebounder, improved spot-shooter and quick-decision passer who also defends multiple positions on the other end. Daniels, who ranked first or second on the Ignite in rebounds, assists, steals and blocks, has as high of a floor as any prospect projected outside the top five. Although he's not the shiftiest ball handler or most aggressive scorer, given his recent growth spurt, continual development and impressive approach to the game, the Aussie might also have more upside than most executives think. -- Schmitz


11. New York Knicks
Bennedict Mathurin
Arizona
SF
Age: 19.8

Coming off a disappointing season, the Knicks desperately need to upgrade at point guard but don't have many great options to choose from here. Adding a more ready player, such as the All-American Mathurin, who is also an outstanding perimeter shooter, could make sense as they look to reconfigure the roster and surround their existing pieces with additional talent. Mathurin can play either wing spot alongside cornerstone RJ Barrett and has plenty of upside to grow into at just 19 years old. -- Givony


12. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Clippers)
Ousmane Dieng
NZ Breakers
SF/PF
Age: 18.9

The Thunder are a perfect landing spot for Dieng, who isn't ready to make an immediate impact on a playoff team but has an incredibly intriguing combination of size, fluidity and skill for an organization with time to invest in his development. In the interim, Dieng offers spot shooting (albeit streaky at 27%) with the tools to defend multiple positions at 6-10 with a 7-0 wingspan, even if he's not the rebounder or physical stopper he could be quite yet. Long term, Dieng has real shot-creation potential given his smooth handle, passing feel in pick-and-roll, ability to make pull-up 3s (often of the step-back variety) and toss in floaters from different angles. He may never be the aggressive driver, forceful finisher or high-motor rebounder whom coaches would hope for from a player with his tools, but given OKC's timeline and recent track record of players with positional size and skill -- think Giddey, SGA, Aleksej Pokusevski -- Dieng could be a fit. -- Schmitz


13. Charlotte Hornets
Mark Williams
Duke
C
Age: 20.3

The Hornets have been seeking a legitimate rim-protecting, lob-catching center to pair with LaMelo Ball from the moment they drafted the pick-and-roll maestro, and could very well be attracted to Williams, with whom they'll be very familiar from down the road in Durham. Williams led college basketball in dunks this season, won ACC defensive player of the year honors and made considerable progress in his sophomore season. -- Givony


14. Cleveland Cavaliers
Ochai Agbaji
Kansas
SF
Age: 22.0

With Cleveland competing for a playoff spot quicker than most league executives expected, the Cavs can add another quality rotation player on the perimeter in Agbaji, who has turned himself into one of the best shooters in the draft -- 41% on 6.5 attempts per game. Given Darius Garland's All-Star ascension in addition to the presence of shot creators like Caris LeVert, Collin Sexton (a potential free agent) and Evan Mobley, adding a prospect who doesn't need much volume to be effective makes sense for J.B. Bickerstaff's club. Agbaji fits the bill as he's an impressive open-court athlete, can space the floor out of spot-ups and serve as a weapon via off-ball screens and handoffs while possessing the tools to defend up to three positions when at his best. There are players with more traditional "upside" on the board, but Agbaji is arguably the draft's most ready prospect behind Iowa star Keegan Murray, with a clear NBA role. -- Schmitz


15. Charlotte Hornets (via Pelicans)
Jeremy Sochan
Baylor
PF
Age: 18.9

With several frontcourt options on expiring contracts, the Hornets may look to add another big man with their second pick of the first round. Sochan brings some different dimensions the team could be attracted to his ability to defend all over the floor, pass the ball effectively and slide up or down positions depending on the matchup. The Polish national has plenty of upside to grow into at 18 years old. -- Givony


16. Atlanta Hawks
Malaki Branham
Ohio State
SG
Age: 18.9

A surprise one-and-done thanks to his productivity at Ohio State, Branham would be an intriguing fit alongside a high-usage star like Trae Young and offers an excellent combination of ready-made production and future growth at just 18 years old. He's comfortable playing a 3-and-D style role given his spot shooting (41%), ability to score without needing many dribbles and positional length with a wingspan around 6-10. Adding Branham would give the Hawks yet another floor spacer who can eventually function as a secondary ball handler in spurts, as evidenced by his tremendous midrange game and improving court vision. Even with Atlanta's postseason struggles, Young (23), Kevin Huerter (23), De'Andre Hunter (24), John Collins (24) and Onyeka Okongwu (21) is a strong under-25 core that Branham would only bolster. -- Schmitz


17. Houston Rockets
TyTy Washington Jr.
Kentucky
PG/SG
Age: 20.4

Opinions around the NBA are mixed regarding the long-term future of Kevin Porter Jr. in Houston after what's been a roller-coaster ride of a short NBA career thus far. Adding another steady-handed guard in the backcourt in Washington who can play with or without the ball, excels in pick-and-roll and is a strong perimeter shooter makes some sense here, especially since he has the size and length to play in many different lineup configurations. -- Givony


18. Chicago Bulls
Tari Eason
LSU
PF
Age: 20.9

The Bulls ranked 23rd in defensive efficiency in the regular season, and they could without question use another versatile wing defender like Eason, one of the most productive and efficient all-around players in the NCAA as a 20-year-old junior. While likely more of a 4/3 at the NBA level (a spot currently occupied by Patrick Williams), Eason played a fair amount of small-ball 5 in college and could give the Bulls a different look with his length and foot speed, as they're used to playing in deep drop coverage with Nikola Vucevic at the 5. Eason isn't the most polished ball handler or decision-maker and had his fair share of no-show games at LSU. But the fact that he can add value as a transition finisher, rebounder, cutter, occasional spot shooter and defender at 6-8 with a 7-1 wingspan alongside a perimeter creator like DeMar DeRozan makes him an intriguing fit in Chicago. -- Schmitz


19. Minnesota Timberwolves
Nikola Jovic
Mega Mozzart
SF
Age: 18.8

After an encouraging season, the Timberwolves may look to bolster their depth at the forward spots with another dynamic shooter who doesn't need the ball, can facilitate for others and has upside to grow into long-term. Enter Jovic, who has excellent size at 6-10, a strong feel for the game and could slide nicely in between Jalen McDaniels and Jarred Vanderbilt while not detracting from the Timberwolves' core of Anthony Edwards and Karl-Anthony Towns. -- Givony


20. San Antonio Spurs (via Raptors)
Kennedy Chandler
Tennessee
PG
Age: 19.5

The Spurs aren't short on young perimeter players, but none have the same level of burst and shift as Chandler, who could eventually evolve into a change-of-pace backup to franchise lead guard Dejounte Murray. Despite his size at 6-0, Chandler has also proved capable of co-existing with other big guards like Murray, as he shot almost 50% from 3 over his last 10 games at Tennessee and plays a bit bigger than his listed height given the ground he covers along with his 6-5 wingspan and defensive quickness. Chandler may not pass the eye test given his stature, but he has a relatively high floor thanks to his speed, handle, feel for the game, shooting and winning pedigree. -- Schmitz


21. Denver Nuggets
MarJon Beauchamp
G League Ignite
SG/SF
Age: 21.5

With Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Jr. back in the fold next season alongside MVP Nikola Jokic and Aaron Gordon, adding quality depth on the wing looks like a priority for the Nuggets, who cycled through different options all season at this position. Beauchamp's ability to defend multiple positions, score without having plays called for him, and do the dirty work to help a team win games could be attractive, as well as the fact that he's already 21 years old and has pro experience under his belt. -- Givony


22. Memphis Grizzlies (via Jazz)
Blake Wesley
Notre Dame
SG
Age: 19.1

So far the Grizzlies have hit on both ready-made college stars (Desmond Bane, Brandon Clarke, Dillon Brooks) and talent swings (Ziaire Williams), with Wesley falling more in the latter category. Memphis played with the fourth-fastest pace in the NBA during the regular season, and few prospects are as dynamic in the open floor as the 6-5 Notre Dame standout. Wesley has NBA burst off the bounce and the tools to defend either guard spot, which he did with much more intensity as the collegiate season progressed. Wesley's inconsistency beyond the arc (30% from 3), sometimes erratic decision-making and high-usage style (31.3) make him more of a long-term prospect, but he'd give Memphis a level of juice off the bounce the Grizzlies don't have in the backcourt outside of franchise star Ja Morant. -- Schmitz


23. Brooklyn Nets (via 76ers; Nets can defer to 2023)
Walker Kessler
Auburn
C
Age: 20.7

With all of the Nets' center options on expiring contracts, it would certainly make sense to look to this position as an option to add a young prospect on a rookie-scale deal. Kessler was the best defender in college basketball this season, a force as a rim-protector who also brings upside as a pick-and-roll finisher and even as a perimeter shooter. -- Givony


24. Milwaukee Bucks
E.J. Liddell
Ohio State
PF
Age: 21.3

The Bucks are in the midst of a championship window, making a mature, NBA-ready prospect like the 21-year-old Liddell incredibly appealing if available. Liddell will have to prove his improved shooting (37% from 3) will translate to the NBA line in order to fit seamlessly next to Giannis Antetokounmpo on offense. But the fact that he can switch and protect the rim at only 6-7 gives him clear value defensively off the bench, along with his motor, winning intangibles and feel for the game. Like fellow ex-college star Grant Williams, Liddell is the exact type of prospect teams too often nitpick, only to see them contribute on a rookie deal for a title contender. -- Schmitz


25. San Antonio Spurs (via Celtics)
Kendall Brown
Baylor
SF
Age: 18.9

In this scenario, the Spurs drafted a center in the lottery and a guard with the 20th pick, so adding a wing in the late first round could make sense, especially since Brown is among the most explosive players in the draft and brings significant upside to grow into at just 18 years old. Finding more confidence and consistency in his jump shot, which Brown could very well locate in the Spurs' vaunted player development program, and discipline defensively -- a trademark of Gregg Popovich teams -- would make him a major steal at this stage of the draft. -- Givony


26. Dallas Mavericks
Jaden Hardy
G League Ignite
SG
Age: 19.7

Hardy is the type of microwave shot-maker with the scoring instincts to help pick up the offensive slack if Jalen Brunson were to leave in free agency. Although he wasn't overly efficient and still has room to grow as a decision-maker or defender, Hardy made a lot of NBA-style shots with the G League Ignite, and in time he could serve as a secondary ball handler alongside Luka Doncic. There are players on the board more ready to contribute than Hardy, but this is a talent swing on a prolific scorer who entered the season as a projected top-five pick and continued to show strides as a playmaker as the G League season progressed. The success of guards like Jordan Poole bodes well for Hardy's NBA outlook. -- Schmitz


27. Miami Heat
Trevor Keels
Duke
PG/SG
Age: 18.6

Few teams have been as successful drafting in the first round as the Heat have over the past few years. The team seems to prioritize finding young players who fit their mentality culturally and have room to grow in their strong player development infrastructure. Keels is one of the youngest prospects in the draft and brings the type of toughness, feel for the game and winning spirit the organization covets. Improving his body and finding more consistency as a perimeter shooter are priorities for Keels moving forward, something he could elect to try to do with another year in college, potentially. -- Givony


28. Golden State Warriors
Christian Braun
Kansas
SG/SF
Age: 21.0

The 6-6 wing Braun fits the Warriors style perfectly, as he's a quick decision-maker, hard-nosed defender, active cutter, impressive transition finisher, excellent positional rebounder and capable standstill shooter who is comfortable filling in the gaps and playing off other stars. He doesn't quite have one elite NBA skill to hang his hat on and his shooting confidence ebbs and flows, but Braun is a national champion with winning pedigree and the type of role-player whom potential title contenders like the Warriors covet. -- Schmitz


29. Memphis Grizzlies
Bryce McGowens
Nebraska
SG
Age: 19.4

The Grizzlies have proved to be one of the shrewdest teams in the NBA the past few years in terms of using their draft capital. With a loaded roster, it remains to be seen how attractive adding another two first-round picks will be, but it wouldn't be surprising to see the team swing for the fences with a high-upside prospect to see if it can uncover another draft-day steal. McGowens is one of the most talented wing prospects in this class long-term, a fluid scorer who needs time to build up his frame and improve his defensive intensity, but he has intriguing tools that are hard to come by from a talent perspective. -- Givony


30. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Suns)
Jean Montero
Overtime Elite
PG/SG
Age: 18.8

Montero is one of the most skilled guards in the draft with deep range on his pull-up 3, impressive pace in pick-and-roll and the ability to pass off the dribble with either hand. At 6-2, 172 pounds his margin for error is slim, meaning he'll have to improve as a defender and finisher to carve out a consistent role in the NBA. But Montero has put up big numbers everywhere he's gone throughout his career, and the deep shooting, slick handle and pick-and-roll passing are enough to make him an intriguing option toward the end of the first round. -- Schmitz

Second round
31. Pacers (via Rockets)

Patrick Baldwin Jr. | Milwaukee | SF/PF | Age: 19.4

32. Magic

Hugo Besson | NZ Breakers | PG/SG | Age: 20.9

33. Raptors (via Pistons)

Ismael Kamagate | Paris | C | Age: 21.2

34. Thunder

David Roddy | Colorado St | PF | Age: 21.0

35. Magic (via Pacers)

Wendell Moore Jr. | Duke | SF | Age: 20.5

36. Trail Blazers

Christian Koloko | Arizona | C | Age: 21.8

37. Kings

Terquavion Smith | NC State | SG | Age: 19.3

38. Spurs (via Lakers)

Leonard Miller | Fort Erie International Academy | SF/PF | Age: 18.4

39. Cavaliers (via Spurs)

Khalifa Diop | Gran Canaria | C | Age: 20.2

40. Timberwolves (via Wizards)

Justin Lewis | Marquette | SF/PF | Age: 20.0

41. Hornets (via Pelicans)

JD Davison | Alabama | PG | Age: 19.5

42. Knicks

Jake LaRavia | Wake Forest | PF | Age: 20.4

43. Clippers

Max Christie | Michigan State | SG | Age: 19.1

44. Hawks

Dalen Terry | Arizona | PG/SG | Age: 19.7

45. Hornets

Jaylin Williams | Arkansas | C | Age: 19.8

46. Pistons (via Nets)

Yannick Nzosa | Unicaja Malaga | C | Age: 18.4

47. Grizzlies (via Cavaliers)

Josh Minott | Memphis | PF | Age: 19.4

48. Timberwolves (via Bulls)

Keon Ellis | Alabama | SG/SF | Age: 22.2

49. Timberwolves

Trevion Williams | Purdue | C | Age: 21.5

50. Warriors (via Raptors)

Andrew Nembhard | Gonzaga | PG | Age: 22.2

51. Timberwolves (via Nuggets)

Jalen Williams | Santa Clara | SF | Age: 21.0

52. Pelicans (via Jazz)

Matteo Spagnolo | Cremona | PG | Age: 19.2

53. Celtics

Gabriele Procida | Fortitudo Bologna | SG | Age: 19.8

54. Wizards (via Mavericks)

Harrison Ingram | Stanford | SF/PF | Age: 19.4

55. Warriors

Drew Timme | Gonzaga | PF/C | Age: 21.6

56. Cavaliers (via Heat)

Alondes Williams | Wake Forest | PG/SG | Age: 22.8

57. Trail Blazers (via Grizzlies)

Michael Foster | G League Ignite | PF | Age: 19.2

58. Pacers (via Suns)

Dominick Barlow | Overtime Elite | PF/C | Age: 18.9

Note: The Chicago Bulls and Miami Heat each lost a second-round draft pick after an NBA investigation revealed premature discussions into the free agency of guards Lonzo Ball and Kyle Lowry.

Jonathan Givony is an NBA draft expert and the founder and co-owner of DraftExpress.com, a private scouting and analytics service utilized by NBA, NCAA and International teams.

Mike Schmitz is an NBA draft expert and a contributor to DraftExpress.com, a private scouting and analytics service used by NBA, NCAA and International teams.



>they still keeping that hope/hype alive in 2022?
>
>its funny to watch them talk themselves into this shit time
>and time again.
>
>i guess its a lil more interesting this time with them betting
>on a project and not the typical 'nba ready' model.
>
>ive seen someone call him a great lob
>catcher...and...well...thats definitely one of the first
>skills you think of building a franchise around. 🙃
>
>somebody really about to mortgage their future on a player
>whose ceiling is cherokee parks with bad posture.
>
>whats the definition of insanity again?
>
>

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31. "Please let Paolo and Cade land together."
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Please please pretty please, lmao.

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34. "Yes please , & keep my guys away from Sac , and it’d be a success "
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>Please please pretty please, lmao.

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38. "lol I say this every single draft"
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"keep my guys away from Sac"

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peace & blessings,

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47. "Sacramento is the Ohio of California "
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32. "Respectfully speaking, can you cease pasting articles "
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into threads

It makes the thread longer than what it needs to be.

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33. "No…."
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These swipes are way more informative than you clogging up the posts bickering with Frank over a player you barely watched


>into threads
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>It makes the thread longer than what it needs to be.

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35. "Yeah, keep doing it please"
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I'd rather read the whole thing here than click through. Thank you.

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36. "No prob nm"
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>I'd rather read the whole thing here than click through.
>Thank you.

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37. "^^^"
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I'll be posting some snippets from The Athletic as the draft gets closer too.

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41. "^^^^Another horrible Allstah take."
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In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
-Hunter S. Thompson

  

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youre the only one...

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44. "SO MUCH APPRECIATED by me"
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though i guess id be fine with you not swiping rd 2



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>As the NBA playoffs continue and we draw ever closer to the
>NBA draft lottery in Chicago on May 17, matching players with
>prospective teams has become something more than a theoretical
>exercise. Teams beyond those in the lottery have established
>their draft positions ahead of the 2022 NBA draft on June
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>ESPN draft experts Jonathan Givony and Mike Schmitz have spent
>the season evaluating all of the prospects who might be
>selected at the draft, talking to NBA team executives and
>scouts, and considering the likeliest paths for players and
>teams. Givony and Schmitz's latest NBA mock draft accounts for
>the draft order released by the NBA at the conclusion of the
>play-in tournament, including picks owed and owned by all 30
>teams.
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>The top three teams on the board and worst three teams in the
>league this season -- the Houston Rockets, Orlando Magic and
>Detroit Pistons -- each carry 14% odds to secure the No. 1
>overall pick. Gonzaga's Chet Holmgren, Auburn's Jabari Smith
>and Duke's Paolo Banchero are still considered the most likely
>candidates to go in the top 3.
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>The Chet Holmgren 'problem' is he's a one-of-a-kind NBA
>prospect
>20dJonathan Givony and Mike Schmitz
>The Rockets drafted a franchise building block in Jalen Green
>last year and will now likely look to improve their
>frontcourt, which happens to be the strength of this class. In
>Holmgren, the Rockets can acquire the draft's biggest
>difference-maker defensively, a force on the glass and a
>rim-protector who also shot 39% from beyond the arc and brings
>significant upside as a passer, finisher and shot creator.
>Holmgren's game should complement Green well, while also not
>detracting from what Houston's existing frontcourt pieces --
>Alperen Sengun and Christian Wood -- offer. Jabari Smith and
>Paolo Banchero would also be extremely attractive here and
>will likely be in play at No. 1 regardless of who lands this
>pick. The team that gets it will have a tough choice. --
>Givony
>
>
>2. Orlando Magic
>Jabari Smith
>Auburn
>SF/PF
>Age: 18.9
>
>The Auburn star forward would give a Magic team that ranked
>28th in the NBA in 3-point percentage a season ago one of the
>best shooters in the draft (43% from 3) at 6-foot-10 with the
>type of defensive versatility Orlando generally covets.
>Smith's incredibly high floor combined with his age,
>trajectory at just 18 years old and ability to shoot over the
>top of virtually any defender from all over the floor makes
>him as strong a candidate as any to hear his name called first
>overall. The Magic would have to be thrilled to pair him with
>similarly versatile forwards like Franz Wagner and Jonathan
>Isaac (when healthy) while giving Jalen Suggs and Cole Anthony
>an ideal pick-and-pop partner who can also punish switches
>with his polished midpost game. Smith immediately makes the
>Magic more competitive on both ends of the floor while
>brightening their long-term outlook. -- Schmitz
>
>
>3. Detroit Pistons
>Paolo Banchero
>Duke
>PF/C
>Age: 19.4
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>The Pistons struck gold in potential rookie of the year Cade
>Cunningham last year and can now look to add another dynamic
>frontcourt player who can help shoulder offensive
>responsibility. Banchero's ability to create offense off the
>dribble both for himself and teammates should pair well with
>the versatility, basketball instincts and perimeter shooting
>Cunningham offers. Banchero could start next to a physical big
>man like Isaiah Stewart and then slide to the 5 and operate
>alongside another perimeter-oriented forward like Jerami Grant
>or Saddiq Bey, making him a strong fit for the Pistons
>long-term. Smith and Holmgren will also surely be in play here
>depending on where the Pistons land. -- Givony
>
>
>4. Oklahoma City Thunder
>Jaden Ivey
>Purdue
>PG/SG
>Age: 20.1
>
>While Oklahoma City is already flush with talent on the
>perimeter in Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Josh Giddey, Ivey has
>as much long-term upside as any prospect in the draft, and he
>would offer an immediate injection of transition speed,
>quickness and leaping ability that would rival even the
>league's elite. Drafting another guard who is best with the
>ball in his hands wouldn't be the most natural fit on paper,
>but Ivey's talent and star power could be too tantalizing to
>pass up. Ivey also has experience playing in multiguard
>lineups, and the fact that he's improved greatly as a spot-up
>shooter (36% from 3) would allow him to play alongside SGA and
>Giddey while buying him time to sharpen the lead-guard acumen
>he'll need to maximize his sky-high upside. -- Schmitz
>
>
>5. Indiana Pacers
>Keegan Murray
>Iowa
>PF/C
>Age: 21.6
>
>Domantas Sabonis was traded to Sacramento, leaving the Pacers
>with a gaping hole at power forward that could be plugged very
>effectively by Murray, arguably the best player in college
>basketball this past season. Murray doesn't need plays called
>for him to be effective and looks like a strong fit alongside
>backcourt starters Tyrese Haliburton and Malcolm Brogdon. His
>perimeter shooting and defensive versatility could even allow
>him to see some time at small forward in supersized lineups
>alongside the likes of Myles Turner and Isaiah Jackson.
>Indiana may be disappointed not to move into the top-4 on the
>night of the lottery in this scenario, but Murray should quell
>that quickly with a Rookie of the Year-caliber campaign. --
>Givony
>
>
>6. Portland Trail Blazers
>Shaedon Sharpe
>Kentucky
>SG
>Age: 18.8
>
>With the Trail Blazers clearing the books and going younger
>and more development-focused at the moment, 18-year-old Sharpe
>makes a lot of sense here. The former No. 1 player in his high
>school class, Sharpe is a smooth shot creator who shoots it
>easy from 3, is effortless getting to his spots off the
>bounce, can play above the rim explosively, and at least has
>the tools and size (6-foot-6, 7-0 wingspan) to eventually
>evolve into a serviceable defender as he gains experience.
>After watching him live at Kentucky practice this season,
>Sharpe is also an underrated passer with the offensive talent
>you see from NBA All-Stars. Sharpe may not be ready to help
>turn the Blazers into a playoff contender as a rookie, but
>given the recent success of physically gifted, shot-creating
>guards like Anthony Edwards, he's a valuable talent at this
>part of the draft, as there simply aren't many other players
>who can create offense like he can. -- Schmitz
>
>
>7. Sacramento Kings
>Johnny Davis
>Wisconsin
>PG/SG
>Age: 20.1
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>Swapping Tyrese Haliburton for Domantas Sabonis, the Kings
>could very well be in the market for an upgrade on the
>perimeter, especially at the shooting guard position. Enter
>Davis, who brings many of the winning intangibles the Kings
>should be looking for with his defensive versatility,
>unselfishness and ability to score with or without the ball.
>Davis would fit well alongside either De'Aaron Fox or Davion
>Mitchell and could even see some minutes alongside the two
>thanks to the toughness he offers. The Kings' pathway back to
>contention, or even making the playoffs, isn't perfectly clear
>at this stage, but nailing their coaching hire and this draft
>pick would go a long way in helping them return to
>respectability. -- Givony
>
>
>8. New Orleans Pelicans (via Lakers)
>AJ Griffin
>Duke
>SF/PF
>Age: 18.6
>
>With three rookies already making valuable contributions in
>postseason play in Herbert Jones, Trey Murphy III and Jose
>Alvarado, the Pelicans add yet another floor spacer to fit
>alongside Brandon Ingram, CJ McCollum and Zion Williamson (if
>healthy). Although he still has a ways to go defensively, the
>18-year-old Griffin is one of the best spot-shooters in the
>draft (45% from 3), with underrated ball skills and the
>strength (225 pounds) and length (7-0 wingspan) to develop
>into a sound defender as he improves his technique and
>awareness. The Pelicans have proved they clearly value wings
>with positional versatility, and Griffin is the best on the
>board in this part of the draft. With Ingram, McCollum and
>potentially Williamson as the primary shot creators, adding
>another off-ball threat who doesn't need offensive volume to
>add value makes sense for the surging Pelicans. -- Schmitz
>
>
>9. San Antonio Spurs
>Jalen Duren
>Memphis
>C
>Age: 18.4
>
>The Spurs have focused heavily on adding perimeter pieces in
>the draft the past few years, with Devin Vassell, Joshua
>Primo, Lonnie Walker IV and Keldon Johnson forming a solid
>backcourt core with Dejounte Murray. They may look to the
>frontcourt in this draft, where they don't have quite as much
>depth. Duren is the most physically gifted big man in this
>class, bringing impressive finishing prowess as well as
>outstanding defensive potential as both a rim-protector and
>guarding pick-and-roll. As the youngest player in this class,
>he has considerable upside to grow into as well. -- Givony
>
>
>10. Washington Wizards
>Dyson Daniels
>G League Ignite
>PG/SG
>Age: 19.0
>
>While Daniels might not be the conventional "point guard of
>the future" the Wizards have been searching for since the
>departure of John Wall, Daniels is a picture-perfect fit
>alongside Bradley Beal. At 6-8, the unselfish Daniels plays
>the type of ball-moving style that complements Washington's
>high-usage star. Although comfortable playing pick-and-roll
>and functioning as a lead guard for stretches, Daniels doesn't
>need the ball in his hands to be effective, as he's a smart
>cutter, active rebounder, improved spot-shooter and
>quick-decision passer who also defends multiple positions on
>the other end. Daniels, who ranked first or second on the
>Ignite in rebounds, assists, steals and blocks, has as high of
>a floor as any prospect projected outside the top five.
>Although he's not the shiftiest ball handler or most
>aggressive scorer, given his recent growth spurt, continual
>development and impressive approach to the game, the Aussie
>might also have more upside than most executives think. --
>Schmitz
>
>
>11. New York Knicks
>Bennedict Mathurin
>Arizona
>SF
>Age: 19.8
>
>Coming off a disappointing season, the Knicks desperately need
>to upgrade at point guard but don't have many great options to
>choose from here. Adding a more ready player, such as the
>All-American Mathurin, who is also an outstanding perimeter
>shooter, could make sense as they look to reconfigure the
>roster and surround their existing pieces with additional
>talent. Mathurin can play either wing spot alongside
>cornerstone RJ Barrett and has plenty of upside to grow into
>at just 19 years old. -- Givony
>
>
>12. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Clippers)
>Ousmane Dieng
>NZ Breakers
>SF/PF
>Age: 18.9
>
>The Thunder are a perfect landing spot for Dieng, who isn't
>ready to make an immediate impact on a playoff team but has an
>incredibly intriguing combination of size, fluidity and skill
>for an organization with time to invest in his development. In
>the interim, Dieng offers spot shooting (albeit streaky at
>27%) with the tools to defend multiple positions at 6-10 with
>a 7-0 wingspan, even if he's not the rebounder or physical
>stopper he could be quite yet. Long term, Dieng has real
>shot-creation potential given his smooth handle, passing feel
>in pick-and-roll, ability to make pull-up 3s (often of the
>step-back variety) and toss in floaters from different angles.
>He may never be the aggressive driver, forceful finisher or
>high-motor rebounder whom coaches would hope for from a player
>with his tools, but given OKC's timeline and recent track
>record of players with positional size and skill -- think
>Giddey, SGA, Aleksej Pokusevski -- Dieng could be a fit. --
>Schmitz
>
>
>13. Charlotte Hornets
>Mark Williams
>Duke
>C
>Age: 20.3
>
>The Hornets have been seeking a legitimate rim-protecting,
>lob-catching center to pair with LaMelo Ball from the moment
>they drafted the pick-and-roll maestro, and could very well be
>attracted to Williams, with whom they'll be very familiar from
>down the road in Durham. Williams led college basketball in
>dunks this season, won ACC defensive player of the year honors
>and made considerable progress in his sophomore season. --
>Givony
>
>
>14. Cleveland Cavaliers
>Ochai Agbaji
>Kansas
>SF
>Age: 22.0
>
>With Cleveland competing for a playoff spot quicker than most
>league executives expected, the Cavs can add another quality
>rotation player on the perimeter in Agbaji, who has turned
>himself into one of the best shooters in the draft -- 41% on
>6.5 attempts per game. Given Darius Garland's All-Star
>ascension in addition to the presence of shot creators like
>Caris LeVert, Collin Sexton (a potential free agent) and Evan
>Mobley, adding a prospect who doesn't need much volume to be
>effective makes sense for J.B. Bickerstaff's club. Agbaji fits
>the bill as he's an impressive open-court athlete, can space
>the floor out of spot-ups and serve as a weapon via off-ball
>screens and handoffs while possessing the tools to defend up
>to three positions when at his best. There are players with
>more traditional "upside" on the board, but Agbaji is arguably
>the draft's most ready prospect behind Iowa star Keegan
>Murray, with a clear NBA role. -- Schmitz
>
>
>15. Charlotte Hornets (via Pelicans)
>Jeremy Sochan
>Baylor
>PF
>Age: 18.9
>
>With several frontcourt options on expiring contracts, the
>Hornets may look to add another big man with their second pick
>of the first round. Sochan brings some different dimensions
>the team could be attracted to his ability to defend all over
>the floor, pass the ball effectively and slide up or down
>positions depending on the matchup. The Polish national has
>plenty of upside to grow into at 18 years old. -- Givony
>
>
>16. Atlanta Hawks
>Malaki Branham
>Ohio State
>SG
>Age: 18.9
>
>A surprise one-and-done thanks to his productivity at Ohio
>State, Branham would be an intriguing fit alongside a
>high-usage star like Trae Young and offers an excellent
>combination of ready-made production and future growth at just
>18 years old. He's comfortable playing a 3-and-D style role
>given his spot shooting (41%), ability to score without
>needing many dribbles and positional length with a wingspan
>around 6-10. Adding Branham would give the Hawks yet another
>floor spacer who can eventually function as a secondary ball
>handler in spurts, as evidenced by his tremendous midrange
>game and improving court vision. Even with Atlanta's
>postseason struggles, Young (23), Kevin Huerter (23), De'Andre
>Hunter (24), John Collins (24) and Onyeka Okongwu (21) is a
>strong under-25 core that Branham would only bolster. --
>Schmitz
>
>
>17. Houston Rockets
>TyTy Washington Jr.
>Kentucky
>PG/SG
>Age: 20.4
>
>Opinions around the NBA are mixed regarding the long-term
>future of Kevin Porter Jr. in Houston after what's been a
>roller-coaster ride of a short NBA career thus far. Adding
>another steady-handed guard in the backcourt in Washington who
>can play with or without the ball, excels in pick-and-roll and
>is a strong perimeter shooter makes some sense here,
>especially since he has the size and length to play in many
>different lineup configurations. -- Givony
>
>
>18. Chicago Bulls
>Tari Eason
>LSU
>PF
>Age: 20.9
>
>The Bulls ranked 23rd in defensive efficiency in the regular
>season, and they could without question use another versatile
>wing defender like Eason, one of the most productive and
>efficient all-around players in the NCAA as a 20-year-old
>junior. While likely more of a 4/3 at the NBA level (a spot
>currently occupied by Patrick Williams), Eason played a fair
>amount of small-ball 5 in college and could give the Bulls a
>different look with his length and foot speed, as they're used
>to playing in deep drop coverage with Nikola Vucevic at the 5.
>Eason isn't the most polished ball handler or decision-maker
>and had his fair share of no-show games at LSU. But the fact
>that he can add value as a transition finisher, rebounder,
>cutter, occasional spot shooter and defender at 6-8 with a 7-1
>wingspan alongside a perimeter creator like DeMar DeRozan
>makes him an intriguing fit in Chicago. -- Schmitz
>
>
>19. Minnesota Timberwolves
>Nikola Jovic
>Mega Mozzart
>SF
>Age: 18.8
>
>After an encouraging season, the Timberwolves may look to
>bolster their depth at the forward spots with another dynamic
>shooter who doesn't need the ball, can facilitate for others
>and has upside to grow into long-term. Enter Jovic, who has
>excellent size at 6-10, a strong feel for the game and could
>slide nicely in between Jalen McDaniels and Jarred Vanderbilt
>while not detracting from the Timberwolves' core of Anthony
>Edwards and Karl-Anthony Towns. -- Givony
>
>
>20. San Antonio Spurs (via Raptors)
>Kennedy Chandler
>Tennessee
>PG
>Age: 19.5
>
>The Spurs aren't short on young perimeter players, but none
>have the same level of burst and shift as Chandler, who could
>eventually evolve into a change-of-pace backup to franchise
>lead guard Dejounte Murray. Despite his size at 6-0, Chandler
>has also proved capable of co-existing with other big guards
>like Murray, as he shot almost 50% from 3 over his last 10
>games at Tennessee and plays a bit bigger than his listed
>height given the ground he covers along with his 6-5 wingspan
>and defensive quickness. Chandler may not pass the eye test
>given his stature, but he has a relatively high floor thanks
>to his speed, handle, feel for the game, shooting and winning
>pedigree. -- Schmitz
>
>
>21. Denver Nuggets
>MarJon Beauchamp
>G League Ignite
>SG/SF
>Age: 21.5
>
>With Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Jr. back in the fold next
>season alongside MVP Nikola Jokic and Aaron Gordon, adding
>quality depth on the wing looks like a priority for the
>Nuggets, who cycled through different options all season at
>this position. Beauchamp's ability to defend multiple
>positions, score without having plays called for him, and do
>the dirty work to help a team win games could be attractive,
>as well as the fact that he's already 21 years old and has pro
>experience under his belt. -- Givony
>
>
>22. Memphis Grizzlies (via Jazz)
>Blake Wesley
>Notre Dame
>SG
>Age: 19.1
>
>So far the Grizzlies have hit on both ready-made college stars
>(Desmond Bane, Brandon Clarke, Dillon Brooks) and talent
>swings (Ziaire Williams), with Wesley falling more in the
>latter category. Memphis played with the fourth-fastest pace
>in the NBA during the regular season, and few prospects are as
>dynamic in the open floor as the 6-5 Notre Dame standout.
>Wesley has NBA burst off the bounce and the tools to defend
>either guard spot, which he did with much more intensity as
>the collegiate season progressed. Wesley's inconsistency
>beyond the arc (30% from 3), sometimes erratic decision-making
>and high-usage style (31.3) make him more of a long-term
>prospect, but he'd give Memphis a level of juice off the
>bounce the Grizzlies don't have in the backcourt outside of
>franchise star Ja Morant. -- Schmitz
>
>
>23. Brooklyn Nets (via 76ers; Nets can defer to 2023)
>Walker Kessler
>Auburn
>C
>Age: 20.7
>
>With all of the Nets' center options on expiring contracts, it
>would certainly make sense to look to this position as an
>option to add a young prospect on a rookie-scale deal. Kessler
>was the best defender in college basketball this season, a
>force as a rim-protector who also brings upside as a
>pick-and-roll finisher and even as a perimeter shooter. --
>Givony
>
>
>24. Milwaukee Bucks
>E.J. Liddell
>Ohio State
>PF
>Age: 21.3
>
>The Bucks are in the midst of a championship window, making a
>mature, NBA-ready prospect like the 21-year-old Liddell
>incredibly appealing if available. Liddell will have to prove
>his improved shooting (37% from 3) will translate to the NBA
>line in order to fit seamlessly next to Giannis Antetokounmpo
>on offense. But the fact that he can switch and protect the
>rim at only 6-7 gives him clear value defensively off the
>bench, along with his motor, winning intangibles and feel for
>the game. Like fellow ex-college star Grant Williams, Liddell
>is the exact type of prospect teams too often nitpick, only to
>see them contribute on a rookie deal for a title contender. --
>Schmitz
>
>
>25. San Antonio Spurs (via Celtics)
>Kendall Brown
>Baylor
>SF
>Age: 18.9
>
>In this scenario, the Spurs drafted a center in the lottery
>and a guard with the 20th pick, so adding a wing in the late
>first round could make sense, especially since Brown is among
>the most explosive players in the draft and brings significant
>upside to grow into at just 18 years old. Finding more
>confidence and consistency in his jump shot, which Brown could
>very well locate in the Spurs' vaunted player development
>program, and discipline defensively -- a trademark of Gregg
>Popovich teams -- would make him a major steal at this stage
>of the draft. -- Givony
>
>
>26. Dallas Mavericks
>Jaden Hardy
>G League Ignite
>SG
>Age: 19.7
>
>Hardy is the type of microwave shot-maker with the scoring
>instincts to help pick up the offensive slack if Jalen Brunson
>were to leave in free agency. Although he wasn't overly
>efficient and still has room to grow as a decision-maker or
>defender, Hardy made a lot of NBA-style shots with the G
>League Ignite, and in time he could serve as a secondary ball
>handler alongside Luka Doncic. There are players on the board
>more ready to contribute than Hardy, but this is a talent
>swing on a prolific scorer who entered the season as a
>projected top-five pick and continued to show strides as a
>playmaker as the G League season progressed. The success of
>guards like Jordan Poole bodes well for Hardy's NBA outlook.
>-- Schmitz
>
>
>27. Miami Heat
>Trevor Keels
>Duke
>PG/SG
>Age: 18.6
>
>Few teams have been as successful drafting in the first round
>as the Heat have over the past few years. The team seems to
>prioritize finding young players who fit their mentality
>culturally and have room to grow in their strong player
>development infrastructure. Keels is one of the youngest
>prospects in the draft and brings the type of toughness, feel
>for the game and winning spirit the organization covets.
>Improving his body and finding more consistency as a perimeter
>shooter are priorities for Keels moving forward, something he
>could elect to try to do with another year in college,
>potentially. -- Givony
>
>
>28. Golden State Warriors
>Christian Braun
>Kansas
>SG/SF
>Age: 21.0
>
>The 6-6 wing Braun fits the Warriors style perfectly, as he's
>a quick decision-maker, hard-nosed defender, active cutter,
>impressive transition finisher, excellent positional rebounder
>and capable standstill shooter who is comfortable filling in
>the gaps and playing off other stars. He doesn't quite have
>one elite NBA skill to hang his hat on and his shooting
>confidence ebbs and flows, but Braun is a national champion
>with winning pedigree and the type of role-player whom
>potential title contenders like the Warriors covet. --
>Schmitz
>
>
>29. Memphis Grizzlies
>Bryce McGowens
>Nebraska
>SG
>Age: 19.4
>
>The Grizzlies have proved to be one of the shrewdest teams in
>the NBA the past few years in terms of using their draft
>capital. With a loaded roster, it remains to be seen how
>attractive adding another two first-round picks will be, but
>it wouldn't be surprising to see the team swing for the fences
>with a high-upside prospect to see if it can uncover another
>draft-day steal. McGowens is one of the most talented wing
>prospects in this class long-term, a fluid scorer who needs
>time to build up his frame and improve his defensive
>intensity, but he has intriguing tools that are hard to come
>by from a talent perspective. -- Givony
>
>
>30. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Suns)
>Jean Montero
>Overtime Elite
>PG/SG
>Age: 18.8
>
>Montero is one of the most skilled guards in the draft with
>deep range on his pull-up 3, impressive pace in pick-and-roll
>and the ability to pass off the dribble with either hand. At
>6-2, 172 pounds his margin for error is slim, meaning he'll
>have to improve as a defender and finisher to carve out a
>consistent role in the NBA. But Montero has put up big numbers
>everywhere he's gone throughout his career, and the deep
>shooting, slick handle and pick-and-roll passing are enough to
>make him an intriguing option toward the end of the first
>round. -- Schmitz
>
>Second round
>31. Pacers (via Rockets)
>
>Patrick Baldwin Jr. | Milwaukee | SF/PF | Age: 19.4
>
>32. Magic
>
>Hugo Besson | NZ Breakers | PG/SG | Age: 20.9
>
>33. Raptors (via Pistons)
>
>Ismael Kamagate | Paris | C | Age: 21.2
>
>34. Thunder
>
>David Roddy | Colorado St | PF | Age: 21.0
>
>35. Magic (via Pacers)
>
>Wendell Moore Jr. | Duke | SF | Age: 20.5
>
>36. Trail Blazers
>
>Christian Koloko | Arizona | C | Age: 21.8
>
>37. Kings
>
>Terquavion Smith | NC State | SG | Age: 19.3
>
>38. Spurs (via Lakers)
>
>Leonard Miller | Fort Erie International Academy | SF/PF |
>Age: 18.4
>
>39. Cavaliers (via Spurs)
>
>Khalifa Diop | Gran Canaria | C | Age: 20.2
>
>40. Timberwolves (via Wizards)
>
>Justin Lewis | Marquette | SF/PF | Age: 20.0
>
>41. Hornets (via Pelicans)
>
>JD Davison | Alabama | PG | Age: 19.5
>
>42. Knicks
>
>Jake LaRavia | Wake Forest | PF | Age: 20.4
>
>43. Clippers
>
>Max Christie | Michigan State | SG | Age: 19.1
>
>44. Hawks
>
>Dalen Terry | Arizona | PG/SG | Age: 19.7
>
>45. Hornets
>
>Jaylin Williams | Arkansas | C | Age: 19.8
>
>46. Pistons (via Nets)
>
>Yannick Nzosa | Unicaja Malaga | C | Age: 18.4
>
>47. Grizzlies (via Cavaliers)
>
>Josh Minott | Memphis | PF | Age: 19.4
>
>48. Timberwolves (via Bulls)
>
>Keon Ellis | Alabama | SG/SF | Age: 22.2
>
>49. Timberwolves
>
>Trevion Williams | Purdue | C | Age: 21.5
>
>50. Warriors (via Raptors)
>
>Andrew Nembhard | Gonzaga | PG | Age: 22.2
>
>51. Timberwolves (via Nuggets)
>
>Jalen Williams | Santa Clara | SF | Age: 21.0
>
>52. Pelicans (via Jazz)
>
>Matteo Spagnolo | Cremona | PG | Age: 19.2
>
>53. Celtics
>
>Gabriele Procida | Fortitudo Bologna | SG | Age: 19.8
>
>54. Wizards (via Mavericks)
>
>Harrison Ingram | Stanford | SF/PF | Age: 19.4
>
>55. Warriors
>
>Drew Timme | Gonzaga | PF/C | Age: 21.6
>
>56. Cavaliers (via Heat)
>
>Alondes Williams | Wake Forest | PG/SG | Age: 22.8
>
>57. Trail Blazers (via Grizzlies)
>
>Michael Foster | G League Ignite | PF | Age: 19.2
>
>58. Pacers (via Suns)
>
>Dominick Barlow | Overtime Elite | PF/C | Age: 18.9
>
>Note: The Chicago Bulls and Miami Heat each lost a
>second-round draft pick after an NBA investigation revealed
>premature discussions into the free agency of guards Lonzo
>Ball and Kyle Lowry.
>
>Jonathan Givony is an NBA draft expert and the founder and
>co-owner of DraftExpress.com, a private scouting and analytics
>service utilized by NBA, NCAA and International teams.
>
>Mike Schmitz is an NBA draft expert and a contributor to
>DraftExpress.com, a private scouting and analytics service
>used by NBA, NCAA and International teams.
>
>
>
>>they still keeping that hope/hype alive in 2022?
>>
>>its funny to watch them talk themselves into this shit time
>>and time again.
>>
>>i guess its a lil more interesting this time with them
>betting
>>on a project and not the typical 'nba ready' model.
>>
>>ive seen someone call him a great lob
>>catcher...and...well...thats definitely one of the first
>>skills you think of building a franchise around. 🙃
>>
>>somebody really about to mortgage their future on a player
>>whose ceiling is cherokee parks with bad posture.
>>
>>whats the definition of insanity again?
>>
>>
>

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45. "There was no detailed write ups , thats why i didnt"
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Second round
31. Pacers (via Rockets)

Patrick Baldwin Jr. | Milwaukee | SF/PF | Age: 19.4

32. Magic

Hugo Besson | NZ Breakers | PG/SG | Age: 20.9

33. Raptors (via Pistons)

Ismael Kamagate | Paris | C | Age: 21.2

34. Thunder

David Roddy | Colorado St | PF | Age: 21.0

35. Magic (via Pacers)

Wendell Moore Jr. | Duke | SF | Age: 20.5

36. Trail Blazers

Christian Koloko | Arizona | C | Age: 21.8

37. Kings

Terquavion Smith | NC State | SG | Age: 19.3

38. Spurs (via Lakers)

Leonard Miller | Fort Erie International Academy | SF/PF | Age: 18.4

39. Cavaliers (via Spurs)

Khalifa Diop | Gran Canaria | C | Age: 20.2

40. Timberwolves (via Wizards)

Justin Lewis | Marquette | SF/PF | Age: 20.0

41. Hornets (via Pelicans)

JD Davison | Alabama | PG | Age: 19.5

42. Knicks

Jake LaRavia | Wake Forest | PF | Age: 20.4

43. Clippers

Max Christie | Michigan State | SG | Age: 19.1

44. Hawks

Dalen Terry | Arizona | PG/SG | Age: 19.7

45. Hornets

Jaylin Williams | Arkansas | C | Age: 19.8

46. Pistons (via Nets)

Yannick Nzosa | Unicaja Malaga | C | Age: 18.4

47. Grizzlies (via Cavaliers)

Josh Minott | Memphis | PF | Age: 19.4

48. Timberwolves (via Bulls)

Keon Ellis | Alabama | SG/SF | Age: 22.2

49. Timberwolves

Trevion Williams | Purdue | C | Age: 21.5

50. Warriors (via Raptors)

Andrew Nembhard | Gonzaga | PG | Age: 22.2

51. Timberwolves (via Nuggets)

Jalen Williams | Santa Clara | SF | Age: 21.0

52. Pelicans (via Jazz)

Matteo Spagnolo | Cremona | PG | Age: 19.2

53. Celtics

Gabriele Procida | Fortitudo Bologna | SG | Age: 19.8

54. Wizards (via Mavericks)

Harrison Ingram | Stanford | SF/PF | Age: 19.4

55. Warriors

Drew Timme | Gonzaga | PF/C | Age: 21.6

56. Cavaliers (via Heat)

Alondes Williams | Wake Forest | PG/SG | Age: 22.8

57. Trail Blazers (via Grizzlies)

Michael Foster | G League Ignite | PF | Age: 19.2

58. Pacers (via Suns)

Dominick Barlow | Overtime Elite | PF/C | Age: 18.9









>though i guess id be fine with you not swiping rd 2
>
>
>
>>(Two Buckeyes projected to go first round...#footballschool)
>>
>>Jonathan GivonyMike Schmitz
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>>As the NBA playoffs continue and we draw ever closer to the
>>NBA draft lottery in Chicago on May 17, matching players
>with
>>prospective teams has become something more than a
>theoretical
>>exercise. Teams beyond those in the lottery have established
>>their draft positions ahead of the 2022 NBA draft on June
>>23rd.
>>
>>ESPN draft experts Jonathan Givony and Mike Schmitz have
>spent
>>the season evaluating all of the prospects who might be
>>selected at the draft, talking to NBA team executives and
>>scouts, and considering the likeliest paths for players and
>>teams. Givony and Schmitz's latest NBA mock draft accounts
>for
>>the draft order released by the NBA at the conclusion of the
>>play-in tournament, including picks owed and owned by all 30
>>teams.
>>
>>The top three teams on the board and worst three teams in
>the
>>league this season -- the Houston Rockets, Orlando Magic and
>>Detroit Pistons -- each carry 14% odds to secure the No. 1
>>overall pick. Gonzaga's Chet Holmgren, Auburn's Jabari Smith
>>and Duke's Paolo Banchero are still considered the most
>likely
>>candidates to go in the top 3.
>>
>>
>>1. Houston Rockets
>>
>>Chet Holmgren
>>Gonzaga
>>PF
>>Age: 19.9
>>
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>>
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>>is a massive win for the Thunder
>>7dESPN.com
>>
>>The Chet Holmgren 'problem' is he's a one-of-a-kind NBA
>>prospect
>>20dJonathan Givony and Mike Schmitz
>>The Rockets drafted a franchise building block in Jalen
>Green
>>last year and will now likely look to improve their
>>frontcourt, which happens to be the strength of this class.
>In
>>Holmgren, the Rockets can acquire the draft's biggest
>>difference-maker defensively, a force on the glass and a
>>rim-protector who also shot 39% from beyond the arc and
>brings
>>significant upside as a passer, finisher and shot creator.
>>Holmgren's game should complement Green well, while also not
>>detracting from what Houston's existing frontcourt pieces --
>>Alperen Sengun and Christian Wood -- offer. Jabari Smith and
>>Paolo Banchero would also be extremely attractive here and
>>will likely be in play at No. 1 regardless of who lands this
>>pick. The team that gets it will have a tough choice. --
>>Givony
>>
>>
>>2. Orlando Magic
>>Jabari Smith
>>Auburn
>>SF/PF
>>Age: 18.9
>>
>>The Auburn star forward would give a Magic team that ranked
>>28th in the NBA in 3-point percentage a season ago one of
>the
>>best shooters in the draft (43% from 3) at 6-foot-10 with
>the
>>type of defensive versatility Orlando generally covets.
>>Smith's incredibly high floor combined with his age,
>>trajectory at just 18 years old and ability to shoot over
>the
>>top of virtually any defender from all over the floor makes
>>him as strong a candidate as any to hear his name called
>first
>>overall. The Magic would have to be thrilled to pair him
>with
>>similarly versatile forwards like Franz Wagner and Jonathan
>>Isaac (when healthy) while giving Jalen Suggs and Cole
>Anthony
>>an ideal pick-and-pop partner who can also punish switches
>>with his polished midpost game. Smith immediately makes the
>>Magic more competitive on both ends of the floor while
>>brightening their long-term outlook. -- Schmitz
>>
>>
>>3. Detroit Pistons
>>Paolo Banchero
>>Duke
>>PF/C
>>Age: 19.4
>>
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>>
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>>
>>The Pistons struck gold in potential rookie of the year Cade
>>Cunningham last year and can now look to add another dynamic
>>frontcourt player who can help shoulder offensive
>>responsibility. Banchero's ability to create offense off the
>>dribble both for himself and teammates should pair well with
>>the versatility, basketball instincts and perimeter shooting
>>Cunningham offers. Banchero could start next to a physical
>big
>>man like Isaiah Stewart and then slide to the 5 and operate
>>alongside another perimeter-oriented forward like Jerami
>Grant
>>or Saddiq Bey, making him a strong fit for the Pistons
>>long-term. Smith and Holmgren will also surely be in play
>here
>>depending on where the Pistons land. -- Givony
>>
>>
>>4. Oklahoma City Thunder
>>Jaden Ivey
>>Purdue
>>PG/SG
>>Age: 20.1
>>
>>While Oklahoma City is already flush with talent on the
>>perimeter in Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Josh Giddey, Ivey
>has
>>as much long-term upside as any prospect in the draft, and
>he
>>would offer an immediate injection of transition speed,
>>quickness and leaping ability that would rival even the
>>league's elite. Drafting another guard who is best with the
>>ball in his hands wouldn't be the most natural fit on paper,
>>but Ivey's talent and star power could be too tantalizing to
>>pass up. Ivey also has experience playing in multiguard
>>lineups, and the fact that he's improved greatly as a
>spot-up
>>shooter (36% from 3) would allow him to play alongside SGA
>and
>>Giddey while buying him time to sharpen the lead-guard
>acumen
>>he'll need to maximize his sky-high upside. -- Schmitz
>>
>>
>>5. Indiana Pacers
>>Keegan Murray
>>Iowa
>>PF/C
>>Age: 21.6
>>
>>Domantas Sabonis was traded to Sacramento, leaving the
>Pacers
>>with a gaping hole at power forward that could be plugged
>very
>>effectively by Murray, arguably the best player in college
>>basketball this past season. Murray doesn't need plays
>called
>>for him to be effective and looks like a strong fit
>alongside
>>backcourt starters Tyrese Haliburton and Malcolm Brogdon.
>His
>>perimeter shooting and defensive versatility could even
>allow
>>him to see some time at small forward in supersized lineups
>>alongside the likes of Myles Turner and Isaiah Jackson.
>>Indiana may be disappointed not to move into the top-4 on
>the
>>night of the lottery in this scenario, but Murray should
>quell
>>that quickly with a Rookie of the Year-caliber campaign. --
>>Givony
>>
>>
>>6. Portland Trail Blazers
>>Shaedon Sharpe
>>Kentucky
>>SG
>>Age: 18.8
>>
>>With the Trail Blazers clearing the books and going younger
>>and more development-focused at the moment, 18-year-old
>Sharpe
>>makes a lot of sense here. The former No. 1 player in his
>high
>>school class, Sharpe is a smooth shot creator who shoots it
>>easy from 3, is effortless getting to his spots off the
>>bounce, can play above the rim explosively, and at least has
>>the tools and size (6-foot-6, 7-0 wingspan) to eventually
>>evolve into a serviceable defender as he gains experience.
>>After watching him live at Kentucky practice this season,
>>Sharpe is also an underrated passer with the offensive
>talent
>>you see from NBA All-Stars. Sharpe may not be ready to help
>>turn the Blazers into a playoff contender as a rookie, but
>>given the recent success of physically gifted, shot-creating
>>guards like Anthony Edwards, he's a valuable talent at this
>>part of the draft, as there simply aren't many other players
>>who can create offense like he can. -- Schmitz
>>
>>
>>7. Sacramento Kings
>>Johnny Davis
>>Wisconsin
>>PG/SG
>>Age: 20.1
>>
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>>
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>>look at the most interesting stories at ESPN, as told by the
>>top reporters and insiders on the planet. Listen
>>
>>Swapping Tyrese Haliburton for Domantas Sabonis, the Kings
>>could very well be in the market for an upgrade on the
>>perimeter, especially at the shooting guard position. Enter
>>Davis, who brings many of the winning intangibles the Kings
>>should be looking for with his defensive versatility,
>>unselfishness and ability to score with or without the ball.
>>Davis would fit well alongside either De'Aaron Fox or Davion
>>Mitchell and could even see some minutes alongside the two
>>thanks to the toughness he offers. The Kings' pathway back
>to
>>contention, or even making the playoffs, isn't perfectly
>clear
>>at this stage, but nailing their coaching hire and this
>draft
>>pick would go a long way in helping them return to
>>respectability. -- Givony
>>
>>
>>8. New Orleans Pelicans (via Lakers)
>>AJ Griffin
>>Duke
>>SF/PF
>>Age: 18.6
>>
>>With three rookies already making valuable contributions in
>>postseason play in Herbert Jones, Trey Murphy III and Jose
>>Alvarado, the Pelicans add yet another floor spacer to fit
>>alongside Brandon Ingram, CJ McCollum and Zion Williamson
>(if
>>healthy). Although he still has a ways to go defensively,
>the
>>18-year-old Griffin is one of the best spot-shooters in the
>>draft (45% from 3), with underrated ball skills and the
>>strength (225 pounds) and length (7-0 wingspan) to develop
>>into a sound defender as he improves his technique and
>>awareness. The Pelicans have proved they clearly value wings
>>with positional versatility, and Griffin is the best on the
>>board in this part of the draft. With Ingram, McCollum and
>>potentially Williamson as the primary shot creators, adding
>>another off-ball threat who doesn't need offensive volume to
>>add value makes sense for the surging Pelicans. -- Schmitz
>>
>>
>>9. San Antonio Spurs
>>Jalen Duren
>>Memphis
>>C
>>Age: 18.4
>>
>>The Spurs have focused heavily on adding perimeter pieces in
>>the draft the past few years, with Devin Vassell, Joshua
>>Primo, Lonnie Walker IV and Keldon Johnson forming a solid
>>backcourt core with Dejounte Murray. They may look to the
>>frontcourt in this draft, where they don't have quite as
>much
>>depth. Duren is the most physically gifted big man in this
>>class, bringing impressive finishing prowess as well as
>>outstanding defensive potential as both a rim-protector and
>>guarding pick-and-roll. As the youngest player in this
>class,
>>he has considerable upside to grow into as well. -- Givony
>>
>>
>>10. Washington Wizards
>>Dyson Daniels
>>G League Ignite
>>PG/SG
>>Age: 19.0
>>
>>While Daniels might not be the conventional "point guard of
>>the future" the Wizards have been searching for since the
>>departure of John Wall, Daniels is a picture-perfect fit
>>alongside Bradley Beal. At 6-8, the unselfish Daniels plays
>>the type of ball-moving style that complements Washington's
>>high-usage star. Although comfortable playing pick-and-roll
>>and functioning as a lead guard for stretches, Daniels
>doesn't
>>need the ball in his hands to be effective, as he's a smart
>>cutter, active rebounder, improved spot-shooter and
>>quick-decision passer who also defends multiple positions on
>>the other end. Daniels, who ranked first or second on the
>>Ignite in rebounds, assists, steals and blocks, has as high
>of
>>a floor as any prospect projected outside the top five.
>>Although he's not the shiftiest ball handler or most
>>aggressive scorer, given his recent growth spurt, continual
>>development and impressive approach to the game, the Aussie
>>might also have more upside than most executives think. --
>>Schmitz
>>
>>
>>11. New York Knicks
>>Bennedict Mathurin
>>Arizona
>>SF
>>Age: 19.8
>>
>>Coming off a disappointing season, the Knicks desperately
>need
>>to upgrade at point guard but don't have many great options
>to
>>choose from here. Adding a more ready player, such as the
>>All-American Mathurin, who is also an outstanding perimeter
>>shooter, could make sense as they look to reconfigure the
>>roster and surround their existing pieces with additional
>>talent. Mathurin can play either wing spot alongside
>>cornerstone RJ Barrett and has plenty of upside to grow into
>>at just 19 years old. -- Givony
>>
>>
>>12. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Clippers)
>>Ousmane Dieng
>>NZ Breakers
>>SF/PF
>>Age: 18.9
>>
>>The Thunder are a perfect landing spot for Dieng, who isn't
>>ready to make an immediate impact on a playoff team but has
>an
>>incredibly intriguing combination of size, fluidity and
>skill
>>for an organization with time to invest in his development.
>In
>>the interim, Dieng offers spot shooting (albeit streaky at
>>27%) with the tools to defend multiple positions at 6-10
>with
>>a 7-0 wingspan, even if he's not the rebounder or physical
>>stopper he could be quite yet. Long term, Dieng has real
>>shot-creation potential given his smooth handle, passing
>feel
>>in pick-and-roll, ability to make pull-up 3s (often of the
>>step-back variety) and toss in floaters from different
>angles.
>>He may never be the aggressive driver, forceful finisher or
>>high-motor rebounder whom coaches would hope for from a
>player
>>with his tools, but given OKC's timeline and recent track
>>record of players with positional size and skill -- think
>>Giddey, SGA, Aleksej Pokusevski -- Dieng could be a fit. --
>>Schmitz
>>
>>
>>13. Charlotte Hornets
>>Mark Williams
>>Duke
>>C
>>Age: 20.3
>>
>>The Hornets have been seeking a legitimate rim-protecting,
>>lob-catching center to pair with LaMelo Ball from the moment
>>they drafted the pick-and-roll maestro, and could very well
>be
>>attracted to Williams, with whom they'll be very familiar
>from
>>down the road in Durham. Williams led college basketball in
>>dunks this season, won ACC defensive player of the year
>honors
>>and made considerable progress in his sophomore season. --
>>Givony
>>
>>
>>14. Cleveland Cavaliers
>>Ochai Agbaji
>>Kansas
>>SF
>>Age: 22.0
>>
>>With Cleveland competing for a playoff spot quicker than
>most
>>league executives expected, the Cavs can add another quality
>>rotation player on the perimeter in Agbaji, who has turned
>>himself into one of the best shooters in the draft -- 41% on
>>6.5 attempts per game. Given Darius Garland's All-Star
>>ascension in addition to the presence of shot creators like
>>Caris LeVert, Collin Sexton (a potential free agent) and
>Evan
>>Mobley, adding a prospect who doesn't need much volume to be
>>effective makes sense for J.B. Bickerstaff's club. Agbaji
>fits
>>the bill as he's an impressive open-court athlete, can space
>>the floor out of spot-ups and serve as a weapon via off-ball
>>screens and handoffs while possessing the tools to defend up
>>to three positions when at his best. There are players with
>>more traditional "upside" on the board, but Agbaji is
>arguably
>>the draft's most ready prospect behind Iowa star Keegan
>>Murray, with a clear NBA role. -- Schmitz
>>
>>
>>15. Charlotte Hornets (via Pelicans)
>>Jeremy Sochan
>>Baylor
>>PF
>>Age: 18.9
>>
>>With several frontcourt options on expiring contracts, the
>>Hornets may look to add another big man with their second
>pick
>>of the first round. Sochan brings some different dimensions
>>the team could be attracted to his ability to defend all
>over
>>the floor, pass the ball effectively and slide up or down
>>positions depending on the matchup. The Polish national has
>>plenty of upside to grow into at 18 years old. -- Givony
>>
>>
>>16. Atlanta Hawks
>>Malaki Branham
>>Ohio State
>>SG
>>Age: 18.9
>>
>>A surprise one-and-done thanks to his productivity at Ohio
>>State, Branham would be an intriguing fit alongside a
>>high-usage star like Trae Young and offers an excellent
>>combination of ready-made production and future growth at
>just
>>18 years old. He's comfortable playing a 3-and-D style role
>>given his spot shooting (41%), ability to score without
>>needing many dribbles and positional length with a wingspan
>>around 6-10. Adding Branham would give the Hawks yet another
>>floor spacer who can eventually function as a secondary ball
>>handler in spurts, as evidenced by his tremendous midrange
>>game and improving court vision. Even with Atlanta's
>>postseason struggles, Young (23), Kevin Huerter (23),
>De'Andre
>>Hunter (24), John Collins (24) and Onyeka Okongwu (21) is a
>>strong under-25 core that Branham would only bolster. --
>>Schmitz
>>
>>
>>17. Houston Rockets
>>TyTy Washington Jr.
>>Kentucky
>>PG/SG
>>Age: 20.4
>>
>>Opinions around the NBA are mixed regarding the long-term
>>future of Kevin Porter Jr. in Houston after what's been a
>>roller-coaster ride of a short NBA career thus far. Adding
>>another steady-handed guard in the backcourt in Washington
>who
>>can play with or without the ball, excels in pick-and-roll
>and
>>is a strong perimeter shooter makes some sense here,
>>especially since he has the size and length to play in many
>>different lineup configurations. -- Givony
>>
>>
>>18. Chicago Bulls
>>Tari Eason
>>LSU
>>PF
>>Age: 20.9
>>
>>The Bulls ranked 23rd in defensive efficiency in the regular
>>season, and they could without question use another
>versatile
>>wing defender like Eason, one of the most productive and
>>efficient all-around players in the NCAA as a 20-year-old
>>junior. While likely more of a 4/3 at the NBA level (a spot
>>currently occupied by Patrick Williams), Eason played a fair
>>amount of small-ball 5 in college and could give the Bulls a
>>different look with his length and foot speed, as they're
>used
>>to playing in deep drop coverage with Nikola Vucevic at the
>5.
>>Eason isn't the most polished ball handler or decision-maker
>>and had his fair share of no-show games at LSU. But the fact
>>that he can add value as a transition finisher, rebounder,
>>cutter, occasional spot shooter and defender at 6-8 with a
>7-1
>>wingspan alongside a perimeter creator like DeMar DeRozan
>>makes him an intriguing fit in Chicago. -- Schmitz
>>
>>
>>19. Minnesota Timberwolves
>>Nikola Jovic
>>Mega Mozzart
>>SF
>>Age: 18.8
>>
>>After an encouraging season, the Timberwolves may look to
>>bolster their depth at the forward spots with another
>dynamic
>>shooter who doesn't need the ball, can facilitate for others
>>and has upside to grow into long-term. Enter Jovic, who has
>>excellent size at 6-10, a strong feel for the game and could
>>slide nicely in between Jalen McDaniels and Jarred
>Vanderbilt
>>while not detracting from the Timberwolves' core of Anthony
>>Edwards and Karl-Anthony Towns. -- Givony
>>
>>
>>20. San Antonio Spurs (via Raptors)
>>Kennedy Chandler
>>Tennessee
>>PG
>>Age: 19.5
>>
>>The Spurs aren't short on young perimeter players, but none
>>have the same level of burst and shift as Chandler, who
>could
>>eventually evolve into a change-of-pace backup to franchise
>>lead guard Dejounte Murray. Despite his size at 6-0,
>Chandler
>>has also proved capable of co-existing with other big guards
>>like Murray, as he shot almost 50% from 3 over his last 10
>>games at Tennessee and plays a bit bigger than his listed
>>height given the ground he covers along with his 6-5
>wingspan
>>and defensive quickness. Chandler may not pass the eye test
>>given his stature, but he has a relatively high floor thanks
>>to his speed, handle, feel for the game, shooting and
>winning
>>pedigree. -- Schmitz
>>
>>
>>21. Denver Nuggets
>>MarJon Beauchamp
>>G League Ignite
>>SG/SF
>>Age: 21.5
>>
>>With Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Jr. back in the fold
>next
>>season alongside MVP Nikola Jokic and Aaron Gordon, adding
>>quality depth on the wing looks like a priority for the
>>Nuggets, who cycled through different options all season at
>>this position. Beauchamp's ability to defend multiple
>>positions, score without having plays called for him, and do
>>the dirty work to help a team win games could be attractive,
>>as well as the fact that he's already 21 years old and has
>pro
>>experience under his belt. -- Givony
>>
>>
>>22. Memphis Grizzlies (via Jazz)
>>Blake Wesley
>>Notre Dame
>>SG
>>Age: 19.1
>>
>>So far the Grizzlies have hit on both ready-made college
>stars
>>(Desmond Bane, Brandon Clarke, Dillon Brooks) and talent
>>swings (Ziaire Williams), with Wesley falling more in the
>>latter category. Memphis played with the fourth-fastest pace
>>in the NBA during the regular season, and few prospects are
>as
>>dynamic in the open floor as the 6-5 Notre Dame standout.
>>Wesley has NBA burst off the bounce and the tools to defend
>>either guard spot, which he did with much more intensity as
>>the collegiate season progressed. Wesley's inconsistency
>>beyond the arc (30% from 3), sometimes erratic
>decision-making
>>and high-usage style (31.3) make him more of a long-term
>>prospect, but he'd give Memphis a level of juice off the
>>bounce the Grizzlies don't have in the backcourt outside of
>>franchise star Ja Morant. -- Schmitz
>>
>>
>>23. Brooklyn Nets (via 76ers; Nets can defer to 2023)
>>Walker Kessler
>>Auburn
>>C
>>Age: 20.7
>>
>>With all of the Nets' center options on expiring contracts,
>it
>>would certainly make sense to look to this position as an
>>option to add a young prospect on a rookie-scale deal.
>Kessler
>>was the best defender in college basketball this season, a
>>force as a rim-protector who also brings upside as a
>>pick-and-roll finisher and even as a perimeter shooter. --
>>Givony
>>
>>
>>24. Milwaukee Bucks
>>E.J. Liddell
>>Ohio State
>>PF
>>Age: 21.3
>>
>>The Bucks are in the midst of a championship window, making
>a
>>mature, NBA-ready prospect like the 21-year-old Liddell
>>incredibly appealing if available. Liddell will have to
>prove
>>his improved shooting (37% from 3) will translate to the NBA
>>line in order to fit seamlessly next to Giannis
>Antetokounmpo
>>on offense. But the fact that he can switch and protect the
>>rim at only 6-7 gives him clear value defensively off the
>>bench, along with his motor, winning intangibles and feel
>for
>>the game. Like fellow ex-college star Grant Williams,
>Liddell
>>is the exact type of prospect teams too often nitpick, only
>to
>>see them contribute on a rookie deal for a title contender.
>--
>>Schmitz
>>
>>
>>25. San Antonio Spurs (via Celtics)
>>Kendall Brown
>>Baylor
>>SF
>>Age: 18.9
>>
>>In this scenario, the Spurs drafted a center in the lottery
>>and a guard with the 20th pick, so adding a wing in the late
>>first round could make sense, especially since Brown is
>among
>>the most explosive players in the draft and brings
>significant
>>upside to grow into at just 18 years old. Finding more
>>confidence and consistency in his jump shot, which Brown
>could
>>very well locate in the Spurs' vaunted player development
>>program, and discipline defensively -- a trademark of Gregg
>>Popovich teams -- would make him a major steal at this stage
>>of the draft. -- Givony
>>
>>
>>26. Dallas Mavericks
>>Jaden Hardy
>>G League Ignite
>>SG
>>Age: 19.7
>>
>>Hardy is the type of microwave shot-maker with the scoring
>>instincts to help pick up the offensive slack if Jalen
>Brunson
>>were to leave in free agency. Although he wasn't overly
>>efficient and still has room to grow as a decision-maker or
>>defender, Hardy made a lot of NBA-style shots with the G
>>League Ignite, and in time he could serve as a secondary
>ball
>>handler alongside Luka Doncic. There are players on the
>board
>>more ready to contribute than Hardy, but this is a talent
>>swing on a prolific scorer who entered the season as a
>>projected top-five pick and continued to show strides as a
>>playmaker as the G League season progressed. The success of
>>guards like Jordan Poole bodes well for Hardy's NBA outlook.
>>-- Schmitz
>>
>>
>>27. Miami Heat
>>Trevor Keels
>>Duke
>>PG/SG
>>Age: 18.6
>>
>>Few teams have been as successful drafting in the first
>round
>>as the Heat have over the past few years. The team seems to
>>prioritize finding young players who fit their mentality
>>culturally and have room to grow in their strong player
>>development infrastructure. Keels is one of the youngest
>>prospects in the draft and brings the type of toughness,
>feel
>>for the game and winning spirit the organization covets.
>>Improving his body and finding more consistency as a
>perimeter
>>shooter are priorities for Keels moving forward, something
>he
>>could elect to try to do with another year in college,
>>potentially. -- Givony
>>
>>
>>28. Golden State Warriors
>>Christian Braun
>>Kansas
>>SG/SF
>>Age: 21.0
>>
>>The 6-6 wing Braun fits the Warriors style perfectly, as
>he's
>>a quick decision-maker, hard-nosed defender, active cutter,
>>impressive transition finisher, excellent positional
>rebounder
>>and capable standstill shooter who is comfortable filling in
>>the gaps and playing off other stars. He doesn't quite have
>>one elite NBA skill to hang his hat on and his shooting
>>confidence ebbs and flows, but Braun is a national champion
>>with winning pedigree and the type of role-player whom
>>potential title contenders like the Warriors covet. --
>>Schmitz
>>
>>
>>29. Memphis Grizzlies
>>Bryce McGowens
>>Nebraska
>>SG
>>Age: 19.4
>>
>>The Grizzlies have proved to be one of the shrewdest teams
>in
>>the NBA the past few years in terms of using their draft
>>capital. With a loaded roster, it remains to be seen how
>>attractive adding another two first-round picks will be, but
>>it wouldn't be surprising to see the team swing for the
>fences
>>with a high-upside prospect to see if it can uncover another
>>draft-day steal. McGowens is one of the most talented wing
>>prospects in this class long-term, a fluid scorer who needs
>>time to build up his frame and improve his defensive
>>intensity, but he has intriguing tools that are hard to come
>>by from a talent perspective. -- Givony
>>
>>
>>30. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Suns)
>>Jean Montero
>>Overtime Elite
>>PG/SG
>>Age: 18.8
>>
>>Montero is one of the most skilled guards in the draft with
>>deep range on his pull-up 3, impressive pace in
>pick-and-roll
>>and the ability to pass off the dribble with either hand. At
>>6-2, 172 pounds his margin for error is slim, meaning he'll
>>have to improve as a defender and finisher to carve out a
>>consistent role in the NBA. But Montero has put up big
>numbers
>>everywhere he's gone throughout his career, and the deep
>>shooting, slick handle and pick-and-roll passing are enough
>to
>>make him an intriguing option toward the end of the first
>>round. -- Schmitz
>>
>>Second round
>>31. Pacers (via Rockets)
>>
>>Patrick Baldwin Jr. | Milwaukee | SF/PF | Age: 19.4
>>
>>32. Magic
>>
>>Hugo Besson | NZ Breakers | PG/SG | Age: 20.9
>>
>>33. Raptors (via Pistons)
>>
>>Ismael Kamagate | Paris | C | Age: 21.2
>>
>>34. Thunder
>>
>>David Roddy | Colorado St | PF | Age: 21.0
>>
>>35. Magic (via Pacers)
>>
>>Wendell Moore Jr. | Duke | SF | Age: 20.5
>>
>>36. Trail Blazers
>>
>>Christian Koloko | Arizona | C | Age: 21.8
>>
>>37. Kings
>>
>>Terquavion Smith | NC State | SG | Age: 19.3
>>
>>38. Spurs (via Lakers)
>>
>>Leonard Miller | Fort Erie International Academy | SF/PF |
>>Age: 18.4
>>
>>39. Cavaliers (via Spurs)
>>
>>Khalifa Diop | Gran Canaria | C | Age: 20.2
>>
>>40. Timberwolves (via Wizards)
>>
>>Justin Lewis | Marquette | SF/PF | Age: 20.0
>>
>>41. Hornets (via Pelicans)
>>
>>JD Davison | Alabama | PG | Age: 19.5
>>
>>42. Knicks
>>
>>Jake LaRavia | Wake Forest | PF | Age: 20.4
>>
>>43. Clippers
>>
>>Max Christie | Michigan State | SG | Age: 19.1
>>
>>44. Hawks
>>
>>Dalen Terry | Arizona | PG/SG | Age: 19.7
>>
>>45. Hornets
>>
>>Jaylin Williams | Arkansas | C | Age: 19.8
>>
>>46. Pistons (via Nets)
>>
>>Yannick Nzosa | Unicaja Malaga | C | Age: 18.4
>>
>>47. Grizzlies (via Cavaliers)
>>
>>Josh Minott | Memphis | PF | Age: 19.4
>>
>>48. Timberwolves (via Bulls)
>>
>>Keon Ellis | Alabama | SG/SF | Age: 22.2
>>
>>49. Timberwolves
>>
>>Trevion Williams | Purdue | C | Age: 21.5
>>
>>50. Warriors (via Raptors)
>>
>>Andrew Nembhard | Gonzaga | PG | Age: 22.2
>>
>>51. Timberwolves (via Nuggets)
>>
>>Jalen Williams | Santa Clara | SF | Age: 21.0
>>
>>52. Pelicans (via Jazz)
>>
>>Matteo Spagnolo | Cremona | PG | Age: 19.2
>>
>>53. Celtics
>>
>>Gabriele Procida | Fortitudo Bologna | SG | Age: 19.8
>>
>>54. Wizards (via Mavericks)
>>
>>Harrison Ingram | Stanford | SF/PF | Age: 19.4
>>
>>55. Warriors
>>
>>Drew Timme | Gonzaga | PF/C | Age: 21.6
>>
>>56. Cavaliers (via Heat)
>>
>>Alondes Williams | Wake Forest | PG/SG | Age: 22.8
>>
>>57. Trail Blazers (via Grizzlies)
>>
>>Michael Foster | G League Ignite | PF | Age: 19.2
>>
>>58. Pacers (via Suns)
>>
>>Dominick Barlow | Overtime Elite | PF/C | Age: 18.9
>>
>>Note: The Chicago Bulls and Miami Heat each lost a
>>second-round draft pick after an NBA investigation revealed
>>premature discussions into the free agency of guards Lonzo
>>Ball and Kyle Lowry.
>>
>>Jonathan Givony is an NBA draft expert and the founder and
>>co-owner of DraftExpress.com, a private scouting and
>analytics
>>service utilized by NBA, NCAA and International teams.
>>
>>Mike Schmitz is an NBA draft expert and a contributor to
>>DraftExpress.com, a private scouting and analytics service
>>used by NBA, NCAA and International teams.
>>
>>
>>
>>>they still keeping that hope/hype alive in 2022?
>>>
>>>its funny to watch them talk themselves into this shit time
>>>and time again.
>>>
>>>i guess its a lil more interesting this time with them
>>betting
>>>on a project and not the typical 'nba ready' model.
>>>
>>>ive seen someone call him a great lob
>>>catcher...and...well...thats definitely one of the first
>>>skills you think of building a franchise around. 🙃
>>>
>>>somebody really about to mortgage their future on a player
>>>whose ceiling is cherokee parks with bad posture.
>>>
>>>whats the definition of insanity again?
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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Although the 2022 draft remains the primary focus for NBA teams -- at least for the 22 teams no longer pursuing a championship this season -- evaluations are also being made and intel is being gathered for a 2023 draft that projects as potentially historic.

Much of that sentiment has to do with the presumptive No. 1 pick -- 7-foot-3 French big man Victor Wembanyama, an 18-year-old with guard skills who a growing legion of evaluators believe can be an NBA All-Star ... as a rookie. The chance to select Wembanyama, a generational talent with the ability to instantly transform a team's fortunes, will be greatly coveted and figures to be a subplot that runs throughout the 2022-23 NBA season.

As that storyline unfolds, ESPN draft experts Jonathan Givony and Mike Schmitz have been watching, collecting data and talking to evaluators about all of the potential 2023 picks, updating their 2023 NBA mock draft accordingly. Givony and Schmitz offer projections below for all 59 projected picks, including evaluations of every first-rounder.

The 2023 draft order is based on ESPN projections, and reflects the current state of picks owed and owned. Also, please note that anyone currently in the 2022 draft -- including those just testing the waters -- was not considered for this edition of the 2023 mock.


1. Oklahoma City Thunder

Victor Wembanyama
ASVEL
PF/C
Age: 18.3

Wembanyama is the true prize of this class and the best prospect in the world regardless of age. I've long considered the 18-year-old French big man the best prospect I've personally ever evaluated, and at 7-3 with a 7-9 wingspan and 9-7 standing reach, he's starting to turn that sky-high potential into real production for the ASVEL team in France.

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After missing some time because of injury earlier in the year, Wembanyama has hit stride over the past 10 games (EuroLeague and France Pro A), averaging 13.0 points, 5.9 rebounds and 2.5 blocks in 21.6 minutes while shooting 63% from 2 and 50% from 3. Even more impressive than the production has been how Wembanyama is getting his numbers. ASVEL is springing him free with off-ball screens like a wing, unleashing his feathery shooting touch. With his handle and footwork on display, he has been looking like a bigger Kevin Durant at times by splashing self-created step-back 3s. He's starting to add a more advanced midpost package, fading into back-shoulder turnarounds with incredible ease. He's getting to lobs no other player on the planet could even think of. On top of that, he's protecting the rim at an elite level -- well ahead of Rudy Gobert at the same stage -- while also showing the ability to step out and switch onto guards unlike any player we've previously seen at his height. Wembanyama is the only player in EuroLeague history to record a block percentage over 12%.

He still has his lapses on the defensive glass, can get a little overzealous offensively and with a lean frame has some questions to answer about his durability. But Wembanyama is a one-of-one-caliber prospect, a franchise changer and a future NBA MVP so long as he can stay healthy. He's the exact type of superstar that could quickly turn the Thunder into a playoff team and future contender the moment he puts on that Oklahoma City hat. -- Schmitz

2. Detroit Pistons


Scoot Henderson
G League Ignite
PG
Age: 18.2

Henderson had an excellent debut season with Ignite, posting 14.3 points, 4.8 rebounds, 4.2 assists and 1.6 steals in 28 minutes per game despite being just 17 years old. He was especially impressive down the stretch, shooting the ball much better as the season moved on and making real strides as a playmaker as well.

Henderson's physical tools give him NBA All-Star-caliber upside. He has a terrific frame, a near 6-9 wingspan and powerful explosiveness operating in the open court, playing off hesitation moves and finishing downhill drives above the rim, often in highlight-reel fashion. He's also a flashy passer who shows the ability to create off a live dribble and get teammates involved unselfishly.

Henderson's decision-making, shooting and defense all need work, but that's to be expected at his age and he has huge potential to grow into, making him a real candidate as the potential No. 1 pick if Wembanyama doesn't take the next step in his development. -- Givony

3. Orlando Magic


Nick Smith
Arkansas
PG/SG
Age: 18.0

The Arkansas-bound 18-year-old guard was one of the biggest winners of the high school All-Star circuit and is the clear front-runner to be the first NCAA player to hear his name called from the 2022 high school class. While he did have some ups and downs during Hoop Summit week, Smith put on an absolute show in Chicago during a Jordan Brand Classic scrimmage in one of the more impressive performances I've seen live from a prospect in that type of setting.

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Smith showed the whole bag with NBA execs in attendance, making 3s off the bounce, changing speed and direction suddenly with incredible footwork, finishing creatively in traffic, spraying the ball out to open teammates, threading the needle in the open court and bringing energy on the defensive end of the floor. We've seen shifty shot-creating guards like Smith before, but it's a rarity when they also share the defensive motor and intensity that he brings to the court. He routinely shows real leadership qualities as well, getting on teammates for lack of effort or taking ownership of his own mistakes.

For as talented as he is, Smith still has room to grow as a decision-maker, ball handler versus aggressive pressure, and shooter, as he's more streaky than knockdown at this stage. While still refining a few aspects of his game, the Little Rock-born Smith has legitimate star power and has an excellent situation to showcase his talent on an Arkansas team that could compete for a national championship. With the NBA valuing shot-creating guards who can defend more than ever, Smith should be highly sought after if he has the type of freshman season I think he's capable of in Fayetteville. -- Schmitz

4. Houston Rockets


Dillon Mitchell
Texas
SF/PF
Age: 18.5

Mitchell's ascent has been remarkable, as he wasn't considered a top-100 caliber recruit a year ago but is now firmly in lottery consideration after transferring to Montverde Academy, having an outstanding senior year and then blowing NBA people away during the all-star game circuit, particularly in practices.

Mitchell might be the most explosive athlete in the high school game, as it's hard to find players with his combination of quickness and leaping ability, allowing him to make a plethora of SportsCenter highlight reel-type plays on both ends of the floor.

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More than just a dunker, Mitchell has increasingly been dropping impressive flashes of passing and touch inside the arc, even if his skill level still has a way to go. He makes up for the gap with the intensity and versatility he brings defensively, showing the ability to take on everyone from point guards to big men, and being a significant playmaker crashing the glass, getting into passing lanes and protecting the rim. Mitchell will need to continue to improve and show he can put the ball in the basket frequently enough to warrant this high of a ranking, but it's hard to find players with this type of long-term upside, especially now that he has grown to 6-9. -- Givony

5. Sacramento Kings


Ausar Thompson
Overtime Elite
SG/SF
Age: 19.2

Thompson has as high an upside as any prospect not named Wembanyama thanks to his NBA tools on the wing at 6-7 with a 6-10 wingspan, quickness with the ball, incredible fluidity, elite leaping ability and strong overall basketball instincts on both ends of the floor.

Thompson finished the Overtime Elite season averaging 15.4 points, 8.6 rebounds, 3.0 assists, 2.4 blocks, 1.8 steals and 27.4 minutes across 27 games. While the level of competition needs to improve, Thompson's film is eye-opening regardless of the opponent. He's capable of functioning as a lead shot-creator for stretches, attacking the rim into powerful or finesse finishes with a slow-to-fast pace you see from some of the NBA's best creators. He'll have to continue to address his shooting (25.8% from 3 and 64.8% from the free throw line), but Thompson has touch and is capable of rising into midrange pull-ups and even pull-up 3s. He's a comfortable live dribble passer, showing the type of ambidexterity necessary to pick defenses apart in the NBA.

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On top of that, Thompson has incredible defensive instincts and quickness reminiscent of a young wing like Herb Jones. Like most teenagers, his consistency and motor can still improve on that end, but he gravitates toward the ball and gets to blocks around the rim few NBA wings could. So long as Thompson can continue to improve his shooting while being challenged more by the level of competition next season, there's no reason he can't solidify his standing as a top-five -- and maybe even top-three -- pick in a league that covets defensive versatility and wing creators. -- Schmitz

6. San Antonio Spurs


Amen Thompson
Overtime Elite
PG/SG
Age: 19.2

The older of the twins by one minute, Amen isn't as quite as productive as his brother, but is more of a ballhandling, shot-creating guard who is virtually unstoppable in the open floor, showing an incredible combination of power, quickness and explosiveness getting off his feet. His footwork and body control as a slasher lead to some outrageous moments when paired with his quick-twitch ability to change gears out of hesitation moves or in-and-out dribbles, and he's a willing ball mover on top of that who can really pass off a live dribble. Thompson is an outstanding defender as well, showing an incredible knack for rebounding, blocking shots and getting in passing lanes, often being tasked with guarding point guards, but having the size and strength to hold his ground against big men as well.

Shooting is the big thing teams will want to monitor next season -- he shot just 23% for 3 and 53% from the free throw line. OTE says it will significantly upgrade the level of competition its teams face next season, something NBA teams pointed out they'd like to see improve, which could include some matchups with international opponents. -- Givony

7. Indiana Pacers


Dereck Lively
Duke
C
Age: 18.2

The No. 1 player in his high school class, Lively has an incredibly high floor as a fluid, rangy two-way big who offers a lot of the same things scouts loved about Evan Mobley at a young age. Standing 7-1 in shoes with a 9-4 standing reach, Lively's clear NBA skill is his shot-blocking as he displays excellent timing and instincts, putting a lid on the rim. He's also incredibly vocal in pick-and-roll, calling out coverages, bringing the type of personality NBA coaches like from a young big and even showing the ability to step out and switch. Lively is also a lob threat who has the court sense and feel to play out of the short roll as a playmaker. On the flip side, Lively has a high center of gravity and struggles a bit to play through contact offensively -- particularly as a finisher -- at this stage of his physical development. While he has shown shooting potential out to 3, that hasn't quite materialized in a game setting consistently yet, which isn't uncommon for teenage bigs. Even with his vocal nature, he's not the most naturally aggressive player yet.

With that said, Lively looks like a clear NBA starter with the approach and skill potential to develop into even more than that, especially after what should be a competitive freshman campaign on a loaded Blue Devils team. Lively earns rave reviews off the court, and is the type of two-way connector who should be able to impact winning in a big way in the ACC. With Myles Turner a free agent after next season, the Pacers would have to be thrilled to land the best non-Wembanyama 7-footer in the draft and a franchise center. -- Schmitz

8. Portland Trail Blazers


Dariq Whitehead
Duke
SG/SF
Age: 17.7

Whitehead has one of the highest floors of any player in the freshman class -- a battle-tested four-year contributor at Montverde Academy who has been on the radar since he was 14. He has good size and length for a wing at 6-7 with a near 6-10 wingspan, and is a willing and capable defender who showed the ability to slow down guards and wings alike with his strong intensity level, physical style and excellent awareness off the ball. Offensively, Whitehead has made major strides with his jumper, showing the ability to hit shots in increasingly dynamic fashion, be it running off screens, pulling up in transition or playing off step-backs, although he's still very much on the streaky side, especially in terms of shot selection.

Whitehead is also a good decision-maker as a passer who was well-coached and does a lot of things that contribute to winning. He's not the most explosive athlete around, having some limitations as a ball handler and shot creator and playing a somewhat inefficient style this season, especially when his tough shots weren't falling. Still, he's one of the youngest players in this class, not turning 18 until August, and is already as proven a player as you'll find in the high school ranks. -- Givony

9. Washington Wizards


Keyonte George
Baylor
SG
Age: 18.4

One of the best scorers in this class with an impressive résumé coming out of IMG Academy, the strong-framed 6-4, 220-pound guard is a big-time shot-maker from 3 with the type of shooting versatility NBA teams covet. Although they're different in terms of height and physicality, the success of a shot-making guard like Jordan Poole certainly helps boost George's intrigue, as he's a microwave scorer who can catch fire out of a variety of different actions, rising into highly contested jumpers like few prospects in his class. While more scorer than point guard and still improving as a decision-maker, George has shown glimpses of playmaking potential, threading the needle with left-handed passes in transition that suggest he'll be capable of playing some minutes on the ball down the road, especially after a year of seasoning with a Baylor program that generally has success with multiple-guard lineups.

George showed glimpses of competitiveness on the defensive end during the high school all-star circuit as well, although his motor fluctuated quite a bit during his high school career, an area that will surely be challenged in Waco, Texas. George will also benefit from adding more ways to impact the game when his shot isn't falling, especially considering the type of tough shots he tends to take. More powerful than shifty and not overly long, George continuing to improve as a passer, ball handler and finisher will make the 18-year-old an even tougher cover in the Big 12. Whether it's Poole, Cam Thomas or a star like Bradley Beal, there is no shortage of players similar to George finding success in the NBA. -- Schmitz

10. New Orleans Pelicans (from Lakers)


Kel'el Ware
Oregon
C
Age: 18.0

Ware is one of the biggest players physically in this class, a 7-footer with a well-proportioned frame, a huge standing reach and impressive quickness getting off his feet. Ware has excellent hands, soft touch out to the 3-point line and impressive body control and dexterity as a finisher, giving him significant upside to grow into offensively. He also shows excellent instincts as a shot-blocker, covering ground fluidly and making a high impact with his length when he's in position to make a play.

He's still at an early stage of development, walking around defensively much more than you'd like to see and slow to react to things happening on the floor. Ware's shot selection, decision-making and competitiveness are still a work in progress, as he doesn't quite know what his limitations are and can be fairly mistake-prone on both ends of the floor. It's difficult to tell if his lack of productivity against low-level competition was more so due to his youth, bad habits or just his extremely early stage of development, with NBA comps ranging from Jarrett Allen to Jaxson Hayes to JaVale McGee, with a better jump shot at the same age. -- Givony

11. New York Knicks


Cameron Whitmore
Villanova
SF
Age: 17.8

No player improved his draft stock in the month of April more than Whitmore, who averaged 18 points, 5 rebounds and 3.3 assists in just 17 minutes per game across the Nike Hoop Summit, Jordan Brand Classic and McDonald's All American games while also shining in practice settings. Whitmore is a power wing at 6-7 with a strong upper and lower body who resembles the Cavs' Isaac Okoro, the No. 5 overall pick in 2020. Although not overly long (6-7 wingspan), Whitmore brings a no-nonsense approach to the floor. He competes on the defensive end, runs the court hard in transition, attacks the rim aggressively and even showcases the type of playmaking potential and handle you don't traditionally see from downhill wings with his frame and vertical pop. Even if his decision-making is still improving, Whitmore isn't short on vision, as he made a handful of impressive deliveries off the live dribble with either hand over the course of Hoop Summit week. He's also a comfortable ball handler with an impressive blend of power and shift, which pairs well with his underrated playmaking ability.

Whitmore's clear swing skill is his shooting, as he's just a 22% 3-point shooter (46 attempts) and a 50% free throw shooter (58 attempts) according to our database. He's far from a nonshooter, but speeding up and fine-tuning his stroke could certainly move him into the top-10 conversation, especially when you consider that he has a relatively high floor as a 3-and-D wing with additional upside given the glimpses of shot creation he has shown. Whitmore is one of the most NBA-ready prospects the Wildcats have ever hauled in, and could be the type of one-and-done lottery pick to help usher in the Kyle Neptune era in Philly. -- Schmitz

12. Atlanta Hawks (from Charlotte)


Cason Wallace
Kentucky
PG/SG
Age: 18.4

Wallace was one of the best defenders in the high school game, a long-armed combo guard with outstanding toughness, intensity and instincts getting in passing lanes, chasing down blocks and crashing the glass energetically. He made major strides over the past year with his playmaking ability and perimeter shooting, showing good mechanics and range on his pull-up jumper, even if he's still on the streaky side offensively. He is still developing as a shot creator, but has nice fluidity operating at different speeds and plays an unselfish style that has helped him win plenty of games everywhere he has been.

Wallace doesn't blow you away with his skill level or explosiveness currently and still has some questions to answer regarding his ability to transition to the point guard position full-time as his size suggests suits him. Teams will appreciate the competitiveness, versatility and businesslike approach he brings, but productivity will ultimately help determine how high he ends up being picked. -- Givony

13. Atlanta Hawks


Kyle Filipowski
Duke
PF/C
Age: 18.4

The 6-11, 230-pound Filipowski is a versatile, modern big who can do a little bit of everything offensively: handling the ball in the open court, playing pick-and-roll, popping to open space for catch-and-shoot 3s and scoring out of the post with turnaround jumpers. The 18-year-old Wawayanda, New York, native is also really light on his feet for his size, regularly playing above the rim in space. With measurements similar to Kelly Olynyk's, Filipowski's negative wingspan and average standing reach will make it that much more important that he turns himself into a knockdown shooter and taps into the glimpses of passing potential he has shown to help neutralize the length he is bound to see in the NBA.

He's also still finding his identity on the defensive end of the floor, as he's not quite rangy enough to consistently chase around modern forwards, yet isn't the rim protector you'd hope for in a center. Not laden with the same type of high-level experience as prospects from powerhouses Montverde or IMG, Filipowski could take some time to adjust to the length of top-tier ACC teams from an offensive efficiency standpoint. With that said, he has the type of frame, skill level and mobility to thrive in Duke's offense alongside Dereck Lively, with all the makings of a future lottery pick, especially if the Blue Devils use him like they did Paolo Banchero, giving him the freedom to push off the break, handle in 4/5 pick-and-rolls and create in space. -- Schmitz

14. Orlando Magic (via Chicago)


Jarace Walker
Houston
PF
Age: 18.6

Walker is coming off an outstanding season at IMG Academy, emerging as a two-way force with impressive versatility while dropping flashes of ability as a midrange shooter, ball handler and passer that gives him significant room for growth long-term. He doesn't have great size for a power forward, standing just 6-7½ in shoes, but makes up for that and then some with his huge 7-2 wingspan, chiseled frame and intriguing combination of power and explosiveness, which should allow him to even see some minutes as a small-ball center in the NBA.

Walker is a highly competitive defender who shows the ability to slow down guards, wings and big men alike, being quick off his feet for blocks, and a force in the passing lanes thanks to his length. He's an inconsistent offensive player with questionable shooting mechanics and decision-making who nevertheless impacts the game in a plethora of ways, especially with his passing and ability to push the ball off the defensive glass. His physical style of play, outstanding demeanor and competitive spirit give him a high floor as a prospect. Making strides with his jumper could propel him firmly into top-10 candidacy. -- Givony

15. Cleveland Cavaliers


Julian Phillips
Undecided
SF
Age: 18.4

One of the only uncommitted one-and-done prospects in the country, Phillips is long and fluid at 6-7 with measurements similar to wings ranging from Jaden McDaniels to Terrance Ferguson to a young Herbert Jones. Although lean and wiry at this stage, the 18-year-old Phillips has the type of positional length and on-the-move shooting potential NBA teams generally look for in a teenage wing prospect. A Columbia, South Carolina, native, Phillips, who originally committed to LSU, led a strong Link Academy squad in scoring during three Geico High School Nationals games at 15.7 points in 25.7 minutes before falling to Whitehead, Lively and Montverde in the Finals. We couldn't get quite as extensive of a look at Phillips as other elite prospects since he didn't compete in the Nike Hoop Summit or Jordan Brand Classic, but from watching him at various high school events and studying his film, it's easy to see him generating lottery buzz depending on where he ultimately decides to spend his draft-eligible year.

On top of his quickness, length and leaping ability, Phillips' shooting stroke is his most projectable NBA skill. He's comfortable rising into catch-and-shoot jumpers off pin-downs and staggers, while also elevating in midrange spots with sharp footwork. With that said, he's not all that physical of a finisher at this stage and is still searching for a more consistent defensive motor, despite having the tools to defend multiple perimeter spots and make plays off the ball. Overall, Phillips is one of the more intriguing non-lottery prospects in this class as he possesses several of the ingredients teams look for in an NBA wing. -- Schmitz

16. Toronto Raptors


Jordan Walsh
Arkansas
SF/PF
Age: 18.1

Walsh is one of the most impressive players physically in the class, a strong-framed, long-armed, highly explosive leaper with terrific quickness and defensive versatility. He can slow down guards on the perimeter and put a body on big men inside the paint, covering ground seamlessly and showing outstanding instincts getting in passing lanes and crashing the glass.

Offensively, Walsh is a mixed bag, a force in transition and getting downhill in the half court with long strides and a willingness to absorb contact in the paint. While he shows some flashes of passing ability, his decision-making and skill level often leave something to be desired, especially from the perimeter, where he's a very inconsistent shooter. Walsh's toughness, motor and physical tools will intrigue NBA teams, but how his scoring ability evolves as a freshman will play a big role in how he's ultimately viewed as a prospect. -- Givony

17. Los Angeles Lakers (via Pelicans)


Anthony Black
Arkansas
SG
Age: 18.2

The 18-year-old Black is one of the more versatile guards in the country, with the ability to play on the ball at 6-7 as a lead playmaker while also adding value as a fill-in-the-gaps wing when the ball isn't in his hands. Operating as a lead facilitator at times for Texas powerhouse Duncanville alongside elite 2023 recruit Ron Holland, Black became a proven passer who plays a ball-moving style predicated on transition hit-aheads and heady pick-and-roll reads. He's not the most dynamic ball handler and is still evolving as a half-court scorer and perimeter shooter, which is what makes him an excellent fit alongside a guard like Nick Smith at Arkansas.

Although his streaky spot shooting hampers him some when the ball isn't in his hands, Black proved during Nike Hoop Summit week that he's capable of filling a role by running the floor, moving off the ball, getting downhill off the catch and staying active on the offensive glass. He's also a well-rounded defender with the feet and feel to check multiple positions, even if he's not overly long with a 6-7 wingspan. As was the case for other 6-6, feel-based guards like Lonzo Ball before him, Black will have to prove he can make enough shots both off the catch and the dribble to keep the defense honest. He's also not the most offensively aggressive player. But scouts are likely to appreciate his versatility, feel and positional size, especially if he's able to play a major role on a talented Arkansas team that appears poised for another NCAA tournament run. -- Schmitz

18. Minnesota Timberwolves


Gradey Dick
Kansas
SG/SF
Age: 18.4

Dick fits an obvious mold the NBA is actively seeking as a 6-7 wing who made 47% of his 3-pointers this season, on significant volume, per Synergy. The Jayhawk-to-be shows the ability to rise up beautifully off screens, pull up in transition or execute step-backs in small doses, while being nearly automatic spacing the floors from the corner. While known for his jumper, he shows some ability to do more than that, as he has a good feel for the game and some explosiveness filling lanes in transition, attacking closeouts and going out of his area for rebounds on occasion. His defense improved significantly over his high school career, as he shows good activity, smarts and competitiveness, but he does have plenty to prove in this area with his thin frame and lack of length and physicality. Kansas hasn't had a one-and-done player since Josh Jackson in 2017, so it remains to be seen how much of a fast track Dick will be on with the defending national champions. -- Givony

19. Utah Jazz


James Nnaji
Barcelona
C
Age: 17.7

Nnaji is arguably the most NBA-ready prospect in this class from a physical perspective, standing 6-10, 245 pounds with a huge 7-7 wingspan and the type of frame that would make even a powerful big like Isaiah Stewart proud. He also has similar measurements to a young Bismack Biyombo. After a rapid ascension from Nigeria to Hungary and now to Barcelona, Nnaji was a surprise success for the Spanish powerhouse this season, logging over 150 Euroleague and Spanish ACB minutes in his debut season under hard-nosed head coach and former NBA guard Šarūnas Jasikevičius.

Nnaji is still improving his offensive decision-making, perimeter defense and ability to play without fouling, but he's an elite offensive rebounder, an excellent rim-protector (4 blocks per 40 minutes in ACB play) and the type of highly regarded worker who should continue to improve. While his ceiling might be limited somewhat by his shortcomings as a half-court scorer or offensive hub, he has a clear role as an offensive-rebounding, shot-blocking center who has the agility to eventually add value defending the perimeter, as we've seen from Stewart with the Pistons. -- Schmitz

20. New York Knicks (from Dallas)


Brandon Miller
Alabama
SF
Age: 19.4

At 6-9 with a nice frame, fluidity and dynamic shot-making prowess, Miller looks like an easy one-and-done candidate on first glance, as the NBA is actively scouring the globe for players in this mold. Miller shows real offensive versatility with his ability to handle and pass in addition to his tough shot-making ability, giving him a great framework to build off in addition to his solid scoring instincts and budding defensive versatility he shows in smaller doses.

Miller was at times more of a theoretical prospect in high school than an overly productive, efficient player, as his shot selection, decision-making and intensity often left a lot to be desired at the very low level of competition he played against in Tennessee. Getting stronger, tougher and showing he can play a winning style in college could certainly make him a lottery-level prospect, but some of the doubts that have arisen around his profile could also cause him to slide if he struggles to make the transition to the college level. -- Givony

21. Oklahoma City Thunder (from Denver)


Rayan Rupert
Undecided
SG
Age: 17.9

Rupert is one of the most intriguing international prospects outside the top five in this class thanks to his combination of length (6-6 with a 7-3 wingspan) and shot creation on the perimeter. Rupert, who might still have a few inches of growth ahead of him, is the son of former Euroleague player and national team captain Thierry Rupert, who tragically died in 2013, and the brother of Iliana Rupert, who plays for the French national team and the WNBA's Las Vegas Aces.

As a prospect, Rupert is far from a finished product. He's contact-averse, he lives off a lot of tough pull-up 2s, and he's still not a consistent threat from 3 -- he shot just 20% from 3 over four Adidas Next Generation Tournament games in early April. But much like a shorter Brandon Ingram, he can get to his midrange pull-up against even the rangiest of defenders, with an incredibly high release and solid elevation. He's also incredibly disruptive defensively thanks to his excellent hands and elite length, which helped him average 4.0 steals per game at the ANGT in April. Rupert can stand to improve his decision-making, physicality, 3-ball and defensive rebounding, and it remains to be seen where he'll play his draft-eligible season next year -- he's currently finishing up at INSEP, a well-known under-18 academy in France. But few prospects can offer the same type of positional length and shot-creation potential, which gives Rupert lottery upside. -- Schmitz

22. Philadelphia 76ers


Chris Livingston
Kentucky
SF/PF
Age: 18.5

Livingston was an early bloomer who received quite a bit of attention as a high school freshman before bouncing around some and ending up at Oak Hill Academy. He's a strong-framed combo forward who is physically ready for the college level, playing the type of hard-nosed, aggressive style on both ends of the floor that John Calipari likes from his forwards. Livingston is very effective attacking in a straight line, pushing the ball in the open court, and using his strength around the rim. He can pass the ball effectively as well, even if his decision-making and shot selection leaves something to be desired at times.

Livingston's jumper was streaky in high school, but he has shown some ability to make shots with his feet set throughout his career, the evolution of which will play a big role in how he's perceived as an NBA prospect. He also has some multipositional versatility defensively with his length, strength and toughness. Livingston mostly played the 4 in high school but doesn't have great size for the position at 6-7, so it will be interesting to see how he's utilized at Kentucky and what that means for the Wildcats' offensive spacing. -- Givony

23. LA Clippers


Sidy Cissoko
Baskonia
SG/SF
Age: 18.0

Cissoko is a powerful 6-7 guard/wing who offers an intriguing blend of strength, court vision and defensive potential. A late bloomer who didn't truly burst onto the scene in Europe until the 2021 U18 European Championships, Cissoko had some tremendous highs playing for Baskonia's second team in LEB Gold, scoring 16 points or more eight times against grown men at just 17 years old.

An above-the-rim athlete in Spain, Cissoko didn't look quite as quick or vertically explosive in a Nike Hoop Summit setting, and his lack of wiggle and handle slowed him down in shot-creation situations. But when viewed through the lens of a playmaking wing who doesn't need to be the primary ball handler, Cissoko is quite interesting. With measurements similar to RJ Barrett's at the same stage, Cissoko has the body to guard wings (and even some small-ball 4s) when fully motivated. He's not a consistent shooter right now, converting just 26% of his career 170 3s according to our database, but his mechanics are projectable, and if Cissoko can make just enough spot 3s to force hard closeouts, he'll be able to use his physicality and court vision to add value as a playmaker, as we saw in the Nike Hoop Summit game.

Cissoko played with much better defensive energy than we saw at times in LEB Gold action, collecting three steals and one block in just 23 minutes while dazzling with several no-look feeds. He's comfortable in pick-and-roll -- using both sides of the floor as a passer -- even if he can be a bit wild or careless with his decision-making. Overall, Cissoko is still finding his identity as a player. But the French-Senegalese prospect has a solid foundation to work with given his size, strength, defensive potential and playmaking potential. -- Schmitz

24. Brooklyn Nets


J.J. Starling
Notre Dame
SG
Age: 18.1

Starling passes the eye test and then some, with good size for the off-guard spot to go along with a long wingspan, an excellent frame and impressive explosiveness. He has deep range on his jumper, with picture-perfect mechanics, footwork and balance, showing the ability to make 3-pointers with his feet set or off the dribble. More than just a shooter, he has some versatility with his ability to defend multiple positions, score in the open floor, get downhill in a straight line and move the ball unselfishly, even if his ballhandling and overall consistency are still very much a work in progress. Starling doesn't always insert himself into games as much as his talent level suggests he should, as his confidence wavers at times as he's still figuring out how good of a player he actually is, which could make him more of a multiyear college player if he doesn't hit the ground running at Notre Dame. -- Givony

25. Houston Rockets (from Milwaukee)


Amari Bailey
UCLA
PG
Age: 18.2

Although he might not be the surefire top-five pick his high school ranking suggests, Bailey proved during the high school all-star circuit that he's not just a big name with a massive social media following. Bailey is a competitive, hard-nosed 6-4 guard who brings energy and physicality defensively, can make the type of live-dribble pick-and-roll deliveries you see from today's NBA combo guards, and is willing to do the little things that impact winning -- a recipe for early playing time under Mick Cronin in Westwood. On the flip side, Bailey doesn't quite have the same physical upside as some guards in this class with a similar frame, wingspan (6-7) and leaping ability to Jalen Suggs at the same stage.

Because he's not overly rangy with the ball in his hands, Bailey will have to continue improving as a perimeter shooter and finisher around the rim to remain efficient at the collegiate and NBA level. He's capable of rising into midrange pull-ups comfortably, but is still inconsistent from beyond the arc at this stage. With all that said, it's important for fans and scouts alike to try to look at Bailey through a different lens than what his No. 5 high school ranking and Instagram would suggest, because if they don't, they're likely to miss on a really good basketball player -- a two-way competitor who makes winning plays and makes his teammates better. -- Schmitz

26. Boston Celtics


Ousmane Ndiaye
Telekom Bonn
PF/C
Age: 18.1

Ndiaye is one of the most intriguing long-term prospects in Europe at close to 6-11 with a 7-2 wingspan, a smooth shooting stroke, defensive instincts, positional rebounding (8.8 per game) and flashes of court vision rare for his size. Having dealt with knee injuries in the past and not having all that much high-level experience to his name, Ndiaye isn't an instant-impact type of prospect as he's likely a few years away from being able to help an NBA team. He also didn't have the most consistent season for Rhoendorf of the German 3rd division, shooting just 31.8% from 3 with more turnovers than assists and some issues defending the perimeter and finishing versus length and physicality. With that said, the shooting potential is undoubtedly NBA-level, as he even has shown the ability to create space with step-backs and generate offense for his teammates in space. It remains to be seen what Ndiaye will look like as his body matures and he faces a higher level of competition, but the talent is worthy of real consideration in the first round as he can offer the type of length and shooting few players in this draft class can. -- Schmitz

27. Oklahoma City Thunder (from Miami)


Arthur Kaluma
Creighton
PF
Age: 20.1

Kaluma finished his freshman season in exhilarating fashion, posting 24 points (4-of-10 from 3), 12 rebounds and 3 assists in an NCAA tournament loss to eventual national champion Kansas that was easily the best game of his career. At 6-8, with a near 7-foot wingspan and chiseled 225-pound frame, Kaluma has strong physical tools, allowing him to see minutes anywhere from 3 to 5 for Creighton. When at his best, Kaluma is making shots from beyond the arc, finishing lobs, finding teammates on the move, crashing the glass, using his length to slow down smaller opponents on the perimeter, and using his strength to put a body on bigger opponents in the paint, giving him the type of versatility every NBA team is looking for from a wing-forward.

With that said, he was very streaky shooting the ball from the perimeter as a freshman (27% from 3) and averaged twice as many turnovers as assists, as the game moves too fast for him at times and he doesn't always know his limitations. He'll have a chance to move even higher if he makes the jump as a sophomore his late-season 2021-22 progress suggested, as he'll be surrounded with quite a bit of talent on a Creighton team that will be a preseason Big East favorite for many. -- Givony

28. Golden State Warriors


Nikola Djurisic
Mega Mozzart
SG/SF
Age: 18.1

Djurisic has good size for a wing, standing 6-8 with a strong frame. He's a versatile player who can handle the ball, pass on the move and has clear shot-making prowess, even if his decision-making and efficiency left a lot to be desired this season. Djurisic was able to carve out a role as a 17-year-old playing versus grown men in the Adriatic League because of the physicality and intensity he brings on the defensive end, as he looked capable of slowing down guards, switching onto bigger players, denying off the ball and pushing much older players around despite his youth and lack of experience.

Djurisic will be well-positioned to have a strong season next season on a team that is run by his agency and is historically committed to giving young players minutes and the opportunity to play through mistakes. To rise into the top 20, he'll need to cut down on turnovers, improve his finishing ability around the basket, and show that his excellent 3-point percentages this season can be maintained with higher volume. Finding a way to mature in terms of his body language and interactions with teammates, which can be very poor at times, would go a long way as well. -- Givony

29. Memphis Grizzlies


Nolan Hickman
Gonzaga
PG
Age: 18.9

One of the best returning guards in the country, Hickman has an excellent opportunity to remind NBA scouts exactly why he was once a projected one-and-done prior to his freshman season in Spokane, Washington. With Andrew Nembhard now in the NBA, Hickman will take over the controls, giving him the perfect platform to showcase his court sense, poise and shooting touch. Hickman doesn't quite have the size, blow-by speed or vertical pop teams look for in a surefire first-round pick, but so long as he's productive and efficient as a table-setter for the Zags, I'd expect him to garner plenty of interest throughout the first round, especially if Drew Timme were to return for another year. The success of guards like Monte Morris, Tyus Jones and Jordan McLaughlin certainly helps Hickman's case. -- Schmitz

30. Phoenix Suns


Emoni Bates
Undecided
SG/SF
Age: 18.2

Bates, one of the most hyped high school prospects in recent history, had a difficult freshman year at Memphis, shooting just 44% from 2-point range, 33% from 3 and posting nearly twice as many turnovers as assists. Bates is on the move after electing to enter the transfer portal, with first-year coach Kenny Payne and Louisville considered the favorites to land his services. Still only 18, Bates' ability to gain strength and maximize his explosiveness will be major keys to reaching his potential, as he really struggled with the physicality of the college game, clearly lacking much in the way of elite length, quickness or vertical pop to play the wild style of basketball he was accustomed to at lower levels.

While his energy defensively was solid, his weak frame, average awareness and the lack of experience and high-level coaching he had received to this point in his career clearly worked against him on this end too. Bates still shows flashes of terrific scoring instincts, aggressiveness and shot-making prowess that aren't that easy to find with a 6-foot-9 18-year-old. Finding ways to slow down, simplify things and hopefully shed the expectations that were put on him as a 14-year old-will be major keys to solidifying himself in the first-round conversation and maybe beginning to make up some of the ground he lost in the past two years. -- Givony

Second Round
31. Oklahoma City Thunder

Jordan Hawkins | UConn | SG | Age: 20.0

32. New York Knicks (from Detroit)

Jaime Jaquez Jr., | UCLA | SF | Age: 21.2

33. Orlando Magic

Roko Prkacin | Cibona Zagreb | PF | Age: 19.4

34. Boston Celtics (from Houston)

Andre Jackson | UConn | SG/SF | Age: 20.4

35. Sacramento Kings

Adem Bona | UCLA | C | Age: 19.1

36. San Antonio Spurs

Oscar Tshiebwe | Kentucky | C | Age: 22.4

37. Sacramento Kings (via Indiana)

Caleb Love | North Carolina | SG | Age: 20.6

38. Boston Celtics (from Portland)

Daimion Collins | Kentucky | PF/C | Age: 19.5

39. Oklahoma City Thunder (from Washington)

Alex Fudge | Florida | SF/PF | Age: 18.9

40. Los Angeles Lakers

Coleman Hawkins | Illinois | PF | Age: 20.4

41. New York Knicks

Colby Jones | Xavier | SG/SF | Age: 19.9

42. Atlanta Hawks (from Charlotte)

Matthew Cleveland | Florida State | SG/SF | Age: 19.6

43. Philadelphia 76ers (from Atlanta)

Matthew Murrell | Ole Miss | SG | Age: 20.3

44. Los Angeles Lakers (from Chicago)

Taran Armstrong | Cal Baptist | PG | Age: 20.3

45. Milwaukee Bucks (via Cleveland)

Ryan Kalkbrenner | Creighton | C | Age: 20.2

46. Toronto Raptors

Jazian Gortman | Overtime Elite | PG/SG | Age: 19.0

47. New Orleans Pelicans

Mike Miles | TCU | PG | Age: 19.6

48. Minnesota Timberwolves

Ariel Hukporti | Melbourne | C | Age: 20.0

49. New York Knicks (from Utah)

Nijel Pack | Miami | PG | Age: 20.9

50. New York Knicks (from Dallas)

Tyrese Hunter | Undecided | PG | Age: 18.7

51. Philadelphia 76ers

Tarik Biberovic | Fenerbahce | SF | Age: 21.2

52. LA Clippers

Zach Edey | Purdue | C | Age: 19.9

53. Brooklyn Nets

Jamarion Sharp | Undecided | C | Age: 20.6

54. Milwaukee Bucks

Clifford Omoruyi | Rutgers | C | Age: 20.5

55. Charlotte Hornets (from Boston)

Anton Watson | Gonzaga | PF | Age: 21.5

56. Indiana Pacers (from Miami)

Azuolas Tubelis | Arizona | PF | Age: 20.1

57. Cleveland Cavaliers (via Golden State)

Hakim Hart | Maryland | SF/PF| Age: 21.0

58. Memphis Grizzlies

Terrence Shannon Jr., | Texas Tech | SG/SF | Age: 21.7

59. Phoenix Suns

Olivier-Maxence Prosper | Marquette | SF/PF | Age: 19.8

Jonathan Givony is an NBA draft expert and the founder and co-owner of DraftExpress.com, a private scouting and analytics service utilized by NBA, NCAA and international teams.

Mike Schmitz is an NBA draft expert and a contributor to DraftExpress.com, a private scouting and analytics service utilized by NBA, NCAA, and international teams.

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51. "I think people are sleeping on Scoot a bit. "
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I realize Victor is Victor, and the chances he doesn't go #1 are very thin... but Scoot's the sort of dude I'd take #1 in a lot of drafts, including in 2022. He was notably better than Jalen Green in the G-League... and was a full year behind Jalen Green when he took the G-League court. Putting up that level efficiency against *the G-League* when you're supposed to be a high school senior is... just bonkers.

There are very few prospects from the last few years that I'd have taken over Scoot in a draft.

Maybe Scoot flops this year or something, who knows, a lot can go down in the next twelve months... but I've no reason to believe he's going to be anything but awesome in the G-League next year as an 18-year-old, which makes me think he's a multi-year All-Star The Dude On A Winning Team type guard.

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52. "NGL Idk shit about any of them except Victor bc of his intl buzz"
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maybe if our recruiting was better id know more about the younger guys.

where can one even watch G league games? that has to be the downside of playing in the G league compared to the NCAA (fan exposure etc) but then again if Jonathan Givony etc know about you then maybe who cares?

Darius Bazeley could have definitely used some college coaching though


>I realize Victor is Victor, and the chances he doesn't go #1
>are very thin... but Scoot's the sort of dude I'd take #1 in a
>lot of drafts, including in 2022. He was notably better than
>Jalen Green in the G-League... and was a full year behind
>Jalen Green when he took the G-League court. Putting up that
>level efficiency against *the G-League* when you're supposed
>to be a high school senior is... just bonkers.
>
>There are very few prospects from the last few years that I'd
>have taken over Scoot in a draft.
>
>Maybe Scoot flops this year or something, who knows, a lot can
>go down in the next twelve months... but I've no reason to
>believe he's going to be anything but awesome in the G-League
>next year as an 18-year-old, which makes me think he's a
>multi-year All-Star The Dude On A Winning Team type guard.

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54. "A lot of the Ignite games were on one of the ESPNs. "
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I think the rest are on either ESPN+ or NBA TV.

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53. "/"
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56. "When did the Chets and Scoots of the world start hoopin?"
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Scoot sounds like an old time baseball manager that still calls women “broad” and spits anytime he hears Billy Bean’s name

  

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55. "I just KNEW this dude was a baseball or football player"
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I never really watched college ball on a consistent basis, but used to keep up on a basic level, until about ten years ago when I only checked for a name that was buzzing, and otherwise just looked at draft reports come draft time.

This year I paid it no mind at all until today, when I started digging into the draft

So I saw that shit and thought, Clayton Kershaw, Baker Mayfield, Chet Holmgrensits well next to those, kid must be on deck for MLB or the NFL.

But nope

That’s now an NBA name, right next to Jimmer

Except he seems to be a consensus top 3 pick
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57. "Not much to fuss about... No matter who drafts him...he gonna end up in ..."
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Mark Cuban's formula keeps his season ticket holders happy and now they have a good nucleus....and need a shot blocker.

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58. "Dallas does not have a lottery pick"
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59. "jay bilas called chet a baby giannis."
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and woj said he should be #1 and its not even close.

yeah this dude is about to be a bust.

  

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60. "Giannis wasn't even Giannis when he was drafted, no?"
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Before had got that insane growth spurt and molded his game around it, he was a completely different player for the Bucks. If memory serves me correct, he more of a slasher/passer compared to how he plays the game now.

I'm surprised Bilas would have that crazy clickbait-type take since I vaguely remember him being credible with his draft analysis.

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61. "this is how these dudes sucker themselves"
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into falling for the great white hype time and time again.

its an age old story.

now you know some execs eyes lit up at the prospect of drafting a white giannis lol.

  

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62. "I trust JAY BILAS, Woj not so much lol"
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66. "if he is available when the Hornets pick… smh, lol"
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67. "do the Hornets have a top 3 pick?"
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69. "it was a joke"
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63. "Vegas books have swung drastically to Paolo at #1."
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But Woj just tweeted he still believes Orlando will take Jabari.

Trade incoming? Or Vegas just buying the wrong rumor?

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64. ""most of the "experts" I hear now are saying Jabari"
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65. "SAUCES are reporting Jabari,Chet, Paolo as 123..."
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I always felt we were getting Chet at 2.

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68. "I always love the rumors leading up to the draft."
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The hot one recently was that OKC wants Paolo, but Houston also wants Paolo, so Houston will trade up to get Paolo at #1.

But Chet also fits so much of what Presti very transparently is building there. (Then again, so does Paolo.)

I genuinely don't know what will happen. I suspect Woj's Jabari-Chet-Paolo is correct, as that's been what's been reported, like, since the lottery. That said, who knows what's a smokescreen and what isn't, lol. Could be a wild draft.

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70. "jay bilas softened his language and now compares chet to porzingis."
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thats a pretty big adjustment from giannis.

nigga musta woke up in the morning and watched his own comments like wtf.

  

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72. "RE: jay bilas softened his language and now compares chet to porzingis."
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>thats a pretty big adjustment from giannis.
>
>nigga musta woke up in the morning and watched his own
>comments like wtf.

the thing is Giannis wasn't Giannis coming out that's why he went 15th

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73. "lol that's who he reminds me of but i only saw some highlights"
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85. "From the limited action I've seen"
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Chet is about 100 times better handles than Porzingis, especially on the open court.

Folks should just let Chet be Chet and see how he develops.

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71. "moved:"
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https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2769193&mode=full#2769222

  

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74. "i'm off the anti-chet bandwagon."
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the reactions to him getting hurt (successfully) contesting a lebron james drive disgust me.

i'm rooting for that young man to make a swift recovery and prosper.

  

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75. "people, man (c)Lorenz Tate in CRASH"
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76. "Disregarding people cheering on his injury, "
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it was bound to happen. The guy is too thin, and trying to defend against
highly muscular and athletic players was going to eventually lead to an
injury.

This is why you really have to appreciate Giannis as a big with wing/guard
like abilities. He knew he had to strengthen his body to play like that. Foot
issues even caught up with Durant.

I don’t know anything about OKC’s physios, but hopefully they can fortify his base,
because he isn’t a power 5…He is a stretch 5.



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77. "i mean he got hurt coming down funny off a jump."
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its not like muscular bron lowered his shoulder into this foot lol.

i mean how many prominent not-chet-level-skinny nba players got hurt before or during their rookie year?

ben simmons, embiid, blake griffin, julius randle, etc.

a lot of those folks with foot injuries. they were built pretty sturdy coming into the league too.

dude needs to get bigger and stronger no doubt...but im not buying that his frame made in any more inevitable that he would suffer an injury like this...compared to all the folks werent as thin as him.

  

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78. "exactly....it's such a lazy way to approach it..."
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he could have just as easily hurt his foot contesting Terrence Ferguson at the rim. WE GET IT...he's skinny. People on Twitter are PARTYING, though, on some...SEE!!!

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79. "that was the first thing i told my boy who was clowning about it..."
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re: his size.

i was like it didn't have nothing to do w/ his size he just stepped funky coulda happened to anyone.

  

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80. "yup and people are overlooking the fact he altered *brons* shot."
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straight up head to head with bron coming downhill.

its not an nba game but salute to him for having the heart to make that play and actually succeeding.

ive watched most of the games hes played so far (mostly so i could shit on him lol)...but hes prolly already pretty elite at contesting shots at the rim. even when he gets pushed around in the lane...dude is still gathering himself to make a play at the rim and block or alter the shot.

  

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81. "A bigger question, are these pro-am games over?"
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I've always been surprised NBA teams are OK with this in the first place.

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82. "Chet's injury happened at a game with an unsafe court."
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That's not me just saying that because Chet got hurt. They cancelled the game after a half because players had been slipping and sliding on the condensation and deemed continuing play unsafe.

There's certainly a non-zero chance that Chet landed differently than he would have because of that court-- either in the moment or choosing to land differently because he'd noticed the court was slippery earlier. And, to Reeq's point, he's too much of a bullheaded competitor to let Bron go up for an uncontested dunk in a pro-am game, lol.

I would imagine that, going forward, unless these events are more laboriously planned and more safety measures are insured, it might be hard to draw some of the bigger names out due to fear of injury.

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86. "i mean the nba has had exhibition games stopped mid way bc of "
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unsafe court conditions.

Its not that the court they use for pro am is just generally shitty, allegedly all the doors to the facility were closed due to an earlier incident which caused high humidity in the building. They usually keep the doors open for events

I'm not sure what more planning or safety measures would have done here.

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88. "the ONLY thing that could have been done in this situation..."
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as far as that court being "safe" would have been for them to move the event on like two days notice to the U of Washington or to Climate Pledge Arena (future home of the Sonics) which would have allowed for enough capacity to accomodate the crowd that turned up plus we're talking about ARENAS and not small gyms. even though the event is at Seattle Pacific UNIVERSITY??? i've played in that gym...it's a large high school gym equivalent. pack that many people in it on hot humid day and it's no surprise the court got "sweaty."

considering the logistics of booking arenas of those size (plus if there's already an event there you're out of luck) that would have been HIGHLY UNLIKELY to pull off.

the crowd control at the even was poor because of the amount of people that showed up, but you could have had the whole Seattle police force there and they'd still have had to close the doors.

all that being said, we don't even know if the court was "sweaty" when Chet got hurt.

also, Climate Pledge has now reached out to Jamal Crawford about hosting future Pro Ams. i guess the question now is even if you move it to an "NBA Arena" will players come seeing that Chet's whole season is gone.

  

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91. "I was at the Crawsover"
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the Saturday before Lebron watching a friend play. the only sweat-mopping I saw was a ref in a hurry using a towel with his foot once. I wonder if they had a full mopping team if the court could have been kept safe. It's not clear Chet's injury was due to the court, but the injury and cancellation put a damper on a big day for Seattle hoops. SPU isnt a good fit for the Pro-am. Gym too small/dangerous court. There's nothing to do in walking distance. Not enough parking. And Nickerson st can't handle 'Lebron James is here' levels of traffic.


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93. "oh i agree with everything you said even though i wasn't THERE."
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i knew a bunch of people who went.

i believe everything you said.

as soon at it was announced Bron was coming, they should have considered or tried to at least move it to UW which has 10K capacity i believe.

and maybe they did, i don't know. but if it's to continue and guys like that are showing up, it has to be somewhere else despite the relationship Jamal has had w/ SPU.

  

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94. "Heard more about the court today"
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A pro mop crew wouldn't have helped, the whole floor was fogging up and getting slick. Also was told that the court when it is dry has good (better than average?) grip, but it has been known to get dangerously slick during AAU games. So sounds like it should have been anticipated.

  

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89. "Firmly in this line now too"
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Folks took it way too far

  

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83. "Will miss the 22-23 season....the internet celebrates! FUUUUUUCCCKKK!!"
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84. "Holmgren out for the 2022-2023 season. "
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The Seattle curse on OKC wins again.

(seriously though i feel bad for the kid. i wanted to see what he could do.)

  

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87. "Got Sick for Vic"
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I hope he doesn't get Oden'd.


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90. "what a bummer, I feel bad for him. "
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>they still keeping that hope/hype alive in 2022?
>
>its funny to watch them talk themselves into this shit time
>and time again.
>
>i guess its a lil more interesting this time with them betting
>on a project and not the typical 'nba ready' model.
>
>ive seen someone call him a great lob
>catcher...and...well...thats definitely one of the first
>skills you think of building a franchise around. 🙃
>
>somebody really about to mortgage their future on a player
>whose ceiling is cherokee parks with bad posture.
>
>whats the definition of insanity again?
>
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92. "7ft, 190lbs? no way that frame was making through the season..."
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OKC isn't trying to compete anyway, maybe they'll free SGA

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97. "damn"
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>OKC isn't trying to compete anyway, maybe they'll free SGA

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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95. "what a shot!!!!"
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96. "Chet!"
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98. "This post is going to age incredibly pooly"
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You will regret this for a long time brother. LOL


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99. "lmao no he wont"
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