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"Cotdamn! Calvin Ridley suspended the entire '22 season for betting...."
Mon Mar-07-22 03:40 PM by Dstl1

          

on games. WTF!!
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1500932749846265861?s=20&t=tX4lykXQ_H7KZQzrzMP-QQ

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i can see this becoming a recurrent issue in the future
Mar 07th 2022
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Agreed, he def won't be the last
Mar 07th 2022
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      the NFL(and other pro sports leagues) have made their bed by embracing.....
Mar 07th 2022
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breh bet 1500 to lose 11 mil in salary. you hate to see it.
Mar 07th 2022
2
down ultra-bad, fam
Mar 07th 2022
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why not let your woman or homeboy place the bet
Mar 07th 2022
3
say that man played a parlay with the Falcons in it...SMH
Mar 07th 2022
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Yeah. Not much else to say. I do think a year suspension is way steep
Mar 07th 2022
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I think what needs to be acknowledged is that Calvin
Mar 07th 2022
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^^^^^^^^^
Mar 07th 2022
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yup
Mar 07th 2022
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he's suspended indefinitely and can apply for reinstatement in Feb 2023
Mar 08th 2022
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betting on the sport and league you play in is dumb as hell
Mar 08th 2022
15
Don’t matter. The rule for players is you can’t bet on the game at a...
Mar 08th 2022
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the fact he was placing open bets in the first place
Mar 07th 2022
12
yeah...that's my thought as well...
Mar 08th 2022
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Sports betting being ubiquitous is one of the stranger developments
Mar 08th 2022
16
Seriously. The fact that there's so many ads for it, with the
Mar 08th 2022
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      more than ever im seeing coaches in cfb playing for the spread
Mar 08th 2022
37
you'd have to be pretty naive to think players aren't using the betting ...
Mar 08th 2022
17
Exactly. I bet a ton of players were SHOOK when they saw this
Mar 08th 2022
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I don't know what the compromise would be here
Mar 08th 2022
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I don’t think there should be a compromise
Mar 08th 2022
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      right...if you wanna gamble on football don't play football
Mar 08th 2022
25
           ehhhh
Mar 08th 2022
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           I can kinda see betting on yourself in boxing since it’s a single
Mar 08th 2022
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           agreed. individual sports are different. it's all you.
Mar 09th 2022
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                RE: agreed. individual sports are different. it's all you.
Mar 09th 2022
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                     Kind of makes sense
Mar 09th 2022
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           lmao.. while I think its noble to bet on yourself
Mar 09th 2022
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           ideally
Mar 08th 2022
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nah.. just bet on other sports if you are addicted to gambling
Mar 08th 2022
26
      people like to bet on what they know
Mar 08th 2022
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           then bet college games
Mar 09th 2022
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                lol, right? It doesn’t seem very hard.
Mar 09th 2022
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                I'm thinking ridley had more insight into nfl games than flag football
Mar 09th 2022
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going to vegas in a week-
Mar 08th 2022
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lol
Mar 08th 2022
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I'll look for you, I'll be there too
Mar 08th 2022
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That dopamine addiction so real lol
Mar 08th 2022
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this is the dumbest shit ever. in college we learned all about how gambl...
Mar 08th 2022
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i agree with both sentiments...
Mar 08th 2022
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It's this worse than owners paying coaches to lose?
Mar 08th 2022
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mar 08th 2022
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Has that been confirmed ? If so then Ross has to be suspended too ,
Mar 09th 2022
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they swept that shut under rug fasther than the Spygate tapes & Kraft's....
Mar 09th 2022
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yes.. tanking is horrible shit but gambling on the sport you play
Mar 09th 2022
40
Genuine ?: Why is gambling on your sport the worst?
Mar 09th 2022
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      legs touched on it in post 41. But the reason gambling by players
Mar 10th 2022
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Paying coaches to lose is way worse in my opinion.
Mar 09th 2022
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the whole idea of tanking doesn't make sense unless everyone in the
Mar 09th 2022
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No, but that’s also not allowed lol
Mar 09th 2022
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Is there a chance he DID bet on his own games or performance, though?
Mar 09th 2022
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lol wtf
Mar 10th 2022
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yeesh
Mar 10th 2022
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the chiefs play was blatant af
Aug 01st 2022
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He was betting in 2020?
Aug 02nd 2022
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      that play sure looks like point shaving to me.. lol
Aug 03rd 2022
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           The drive ended with them up 7-0
Aug 04th 2022
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                I didn’t say the whole team was point shaving on that drive.. wtf
Aug 05th 2022
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                     I like my cheaters to actually be good at cheating
Aug 05th 2022
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                          He’s only one man. I think he did great at not scoring on that play.. ...
Aug 05th 2022
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LOL
Aug 04th 2022
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Not 6 games
Aug 01st 2022
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the NFL has always went harder on stuff that actually affected the game....
Aug 05th 2022
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      integrity of the game trumps everything else
Aug 05th 2022
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Reinstated. He wrote a good letter in player's tribune too:
Mar 08th 2023
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its still funny to me that they took such a hardline when on every sport...
Mar 08th 2023
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man, real shit. teared up a bit reading that.
Mar 08th 2023
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RE: man, real shit. teared up a bit reading that.
Mar 08th 2023
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breh, he talkin that SHIT, right now...
Mar 08th 2023
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Amazing read
Mar 08th 2023
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for all the oblivious "statements" put out after pros fuck up
Mar 08th 2023
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Ashy Achilles
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1. "i can see this becoming a recurrent issue in the future"
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4. "Agreed, he def won't be the last"
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5. "the NFL(and other pro sports leagues) have made their bed by embracing....."
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gambling and they have to lie in it.

Ridley is definitely not the only football player gambling. These dudes are driving 160mph drunk, dudes making social media videos with automatic weapons, they are definitely making bets on games as easy as it is now.

Its almost funny how normalized and easy gambling on sports have become to those of us that are old enough to remember Pete Rose getting banned life for betting on games that didn't involve the team he was managing at the time.

Gambling on sports used to be this secret dirty thing you had to call some shady guy in Vegas to do now you can do it on your cell phone and are encouraged to do so by almost ever sports program on television.

They used to say there would never be pro sports franchises in Vegas because of gambling now there are what like 3 or 4?

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2. "breh bet 1500 to lose 11 mil in salary. you hate to see it."
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6. "down ultra-bad, fam"
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3. "why not let your woman or homeboy place the bet"
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just read this bored ass dude was betting parlays lmao

  

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7. "say that man played a parlay with the Falcons in it...SMH"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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8. "Yeah. Not much else to say. I do think a year suspension is way steep"
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The league is obviously making an example of him as a warning to others.

Hopefully he bounces back from this

  

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9. "I think what needs to be acknowledged is that Calvin "
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made his sports bet while he was no longer playing with the team. Last season,
he took a leave absence for the remainder of the season. I wonder if he had
a misinterpretation of the rules in regards to sports betting, and if
all players actually know the rules.

Plus, this is a huge conflict of interest. The league has several sponsorships/licensing deals with betting services, and players have sponsorship deals with betting services,
but they are severely punished if they use those services to bet on football games?

It seems highly conflicting in my opinion, especially when the NFL preaches about
protecting the integrity of the game. And couple that with the fact that owners have
compensated coaches for tanking games, seems to all contradict the NFL integrity guidelines


The punishment doesn’t fit the crime. A one year suspension is too severe
of a penalty

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10. "^^^^^^^^^ "
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Yep. All this.

  

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11. "yup"
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13. "he's suspended indefinitely and can apply for reinstatement in Feb 2023"
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He was on a leave of absence for mental health reasons...

Of all the sports you can bet on, why the league you play in?

And by the way...somebody needs to take his phone immediately...

  

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15. "betting on the sport and league you play in is dumb as hell"
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22. "Don’t matter. The rule for players is you can’t bet on the game at a..."
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And definitely don’t be a moron and put it in your own name when you do

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12. "the fact he was placing open bets in the first place"
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makes me think he had no idea that betting on NFL games would put him in a bad spot

probably thought as long as he's not playing, he's good

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14. "yeah...that's my thought as well..."
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but man...gambling on your own game seems to be the ultimate cardinal sin...

  

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16. "Sports betting being ubiquitous is one of the stranger developments"
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In my lifetime as a sports fan
I'm old enough to remember when Pete Rose was the devil incarnate

Fast forward to today...
Every other commercial is for betting
Pre game includes spreads, over unders, etc...
ESPN has a show dedicated to betting


It reminds me of reefer madness...to now being legalized...and none of the boogey men showed up

Very hypocritical and IMO, the context of the Ridley situation is being ignored

I feel like players made statements about playing fantasy football...?

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19. "Seriously. The fact that there's so many ads for it, with the "
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leagues clearly profiting from it on multiple levels, and it being so normalized in the media to the point that ex-player commentators are talking about their bets on the air is just so weird to me...and not just the pro leagues, but the NCAA as well...

  

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37. "more than ever im seeing coaches in cfb playing for the spread"
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it's blatant


>leagues clearly profiting from it on multiple levels, and it
>being so normalized in the media to the point that ex-player
>commentators are talking about their bets on the air is just
>so weird to me...and not just the pro leagues, but the NCAA as
>well...

  

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17. "you'd have to be pretty naive to think players aren't using the betting ..."
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it's too easy and accessible.

ditch the gambling partnerships or figure out some sort of compromise on this one.

  

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18. "Exactly. I bet a ton of players were SHOOK when they saw this "
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news. And I'm sure there are many who've bet way more than 1500...

  

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21. "I don't know what the compromise would be here"
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It feels like there's gotta be a redline - if you're a football player under contract, don't bet on football.

The NFL is not gonna stop taking gambling site money either - that's helping players get paid more.

I feel like dude is kinda lucky it's probably only a year. I don't think his gambling had any influence on games (lols at 8 team parleys or whatevs), but dude got caught and put himself in a position to be made an example of by the NFL.


I'm kind of curious on what the NFLs policy is on gambling on other non-NFL sports, if any.

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23. "I don’t think there should be a compromise"
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There are certain things I can’t do representing my company, that my boss or VP can do. It isn’t unfair it’s just the game

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25. "right...if you wanna gamble on football don't play football"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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28. "ehhhh"
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Its a grey area and I fully acknowledge its a big taboo in the big team sports -- But should it be? In combat sports, including boxing -- fighters can bet on themselves.

I think obviously the big red flag is when anyone bets against themselves, but technically you should be able to bet on yourself.

Its a long male tradition when challenging someone in anything from video games to pool, when shit talking gets going, to be like...."aight then, put ____ up" Let's see what you really think

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34. "I can kinda see betting on yourself in boxing since it’s a single "
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player sport. In team sports - nah. Because you could have one person stretching themselves and the rest of the team more than normal for an individual game they happen to have money on that is easily detrimental to the goals of the team for that season. Just like with Pete Rose in baseball you couldn’t have coaches betting on the teams they are coaching - leaving starting pitchers out longer than normal and making other decisions for the individual game.

In an individual sport like boxing if you’re going all out for the win, hey that’s just on you.

  

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43. "agreed. individual sports are different. it's all you."
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But in football, you start asking questions like - if it's ok to bet on your team win, can you bet yourself to say run for 100 yards. Or could a QB bet that he'll throw 3 TDs in a game? Those type of bets quickly start getting into territory that could affect your decision making on the field. So then you're in a position of trying to legislate each individual type of bet a player can make on their own sport, which would be a goddamned nightmare and almost impossible to effectively monitor and enforce.

Still pretty sure players are using burners and/or placing bets through friends and associates right now, though... it's too easy and too accessible.

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48. "RE: agreed. individual sports are different. it's all you."
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>But in football, you start asking questions like - if it's ok
>to bet on your team win, can you bet yourself to say run for
>100 yards. Or could a QB bet that he'll throw 3 TDs in a game?
>Those type of bets quickly start getting into territory that
>could affect your decision making on the field. So then you're
>in a position of trying to legislate each individual type of
>bet a player can make on their own sport, which would be a
>goddamned nightmare and almost impossible to effectively
>monitor and enforce.
>
>Still pretty sure players are using burners and/or placing
>bets through friends and associates right now, though... it's
>too easy and too accessible.
>
>

One of the general rules in Combat sports betting is prop bets arent allowed. AKA win by TKo or win in round 8.

They generally just allow you to be straight on winning, thats it. Would that fix some of your concerns?

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49. "Kind of makes sense"
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what enforcement mechanisms are there in combat sports?

I think if I was an NFL Owner/Exec - I'd still probably prefer to have that line of no betting on your own sport at all if you're under contract as a player, coach, exec, etc.

It's a brave new world and sports gambling is part of the culture like never before, so it will be interesting to see how this is navigated.

I know gambling in soccer/EU has been around a bit longer. I'd be curious to see how they handle similar situations, and what if anything might be learned from that.

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41. "lmao.. while I think its noble to bet on yourself"
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the obvious becomes “what happens once you lose a ton of money?

Eventually you can end up betting against yourself to make that money back.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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35. "ideally"
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but this is far too accessible and impossible to regulate

i agree in a sense that i dont really know what the solution is other than fans burying their heads in the sand to think that this isn't going on

kinda like PED use

  

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26. "nah.. just bet on other sports if you are addicted to gambling"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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36. "people like to bet on what they know"
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42. "then bet college games"
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or HS games.

or Flag football..

just don’t bet on the fame you play and end up losing $11 mill for a quick adrenaline rush

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46. "lol, right? It doesn’t seem very hard."
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Also, I’m pretty sure athletes tend to follow sports they don’t play. Go bet on some basketball and everything is fine.

I get that people feel weird with all the money the leagues make off of these deals, but allowing players to bet on games in their league opens up a whole nother can of worms.

  

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50. "I'm thinking ridley had more insight into nfl games than flag football"
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and im sure you realize we're talking about something that can be very addictive and very accessible so simply saying 'don't do it' isn't always the easiest advice to follow no matter how sensible

  

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20. "going to vegas in a week-"
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will wear a ridley jersey.

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24. "lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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30. "I'll look for you, I'll be there too"
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27. "That dopamine addiction so real lol"
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>on games. WTF!!
>https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1500932749846265861?s=20&t=tX4lykXQ_H7KZQzrzMP-QQ


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29. "this is the dumbest shit ever. in college we learned all about how gambl..."
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was the zeroest of zero policies on like, the first day.

now, granted, the nfl is on the equivalent of having a big assed Just Say No / Alcohol Anonymous Meeting with an open bar and hella crack vials all over the place.

still tho. this is a major bag fumble.

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33. "i agree with both sentiments..."
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>was the zeroest of zero policies on like, the first day.
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>now, granted, the nfl is on the equivalent of having a big
>assed Just Say No / Alcohol Anonymous Meeting with an open bar
>and hella crack vials all over the place.
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>still tho. this is a major bag fumble.

we know how dumb these kids are today, I'd be surprised if he's the only one with the current commercialized gambling climate, the NFL is hoping if they make an example out of him they can keep things under control but I doubt it, its too easy

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31. "It's this worse than owners paying coaches to lose? "
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32. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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38. "Has that been confirmed ? If so then Ross has to be suspended too , "
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Or even expelled from the league


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39. "they swept that shut under rug fasther than the Spygate tapes & Kraft's...."
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whores

meanwhile Deshaun still a pariah for getting freaky with his masseuse and not paying her enough

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40. "yes.. tanking is horrible shit but gambling on the sport you play"
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is THE worst thing you can do IMO.

I mean.. they called it “Tanking for Tua” so its not like the media wasn’t telling us what was happening.

and this isn’t to say tanking or paying a coach to lose isn’t also horrible.

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51. "Genuine ?: Why is gambling on your sport the worst?"
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Assuming you're not gambling on your own games. If you're gambling on your own games, I totally agree. Obviously creates a point shaving situation, don't want that. That would be bad, no question.

But if you're gambling on games in your sport that you're not playing in? Why is that the worst? You aren't determining the action on the field. You might have some insider tips re: injuries and what have you, sure, but so do countless people legally allowed to gamble. You might be able to collude with your buddy on another team to get him to point shave and then you give him a cut... but literally any non-player with access to players could do that.

So what's the issue? Am I missing something?

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55. "legs touched on it in post 41. But the reason gambling by players"
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is looked at so negatively, and especially in your own sport, is the question of what happens if you start losing? It's not a big jump from betting on your own sport to betting against yourself once you start losing money. Could be a one time thing, easy to get away with, but eventually could become a PROBLEM.

  

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44. "Paying coaches to lose is way worse in my opinion. "
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This Miami shit should be a WAY bigger scandal.

If you want to rebuild, that's fine. GMs can trade players, you maybe sit vets who are injured if there's less to play for, but you should 100% be putting the players you're rolling with in a position to win.

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45. "the whole idea of tanking doesn't make sense unless everyone in the"
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organization is on board....which most players won't be.

Its a silly concept to dissect what's right and wrong within the confines of an organization trying to lose games on purpose. LOL

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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47. "No, but that’s also not allowed lol"
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52. "Is there a chance he DID bet on his own games or performance, though?"
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53. "lol wtf"
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54. "yeesh"
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57. "the chiefs play was blatant af"
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58. "He was betting in 2020? "
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59. "that play sure looks like point shaving to me.. lol"
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61. "The drive ended with them up 7-0"
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62. "I didn’t say the whole team was point shaving on that drive.. wtf"
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I said HE looked like he was point shaving on that PLAY

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65. "I like my cheaters to actually be good at cheating "
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66. "He’s only one man. I think he did great at not scoring on that play.. ..."
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60. "LOL"
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56. "Not 6 games "
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63. "the NFL has always went harder on stuff that actually affected the game...."
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on the field or had the potential to as far as gambling, performance-enhancing drugs.

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64. "integrity of the game trumps everything else"
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but we all know the NFL is all about those betting lines.

The end of the Sam Diego Steeler game when they wiped out a clear TD by Troy P showed me that point spread is serious business.

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67. "Reinstated. He wrote a good letter in player's tribune too:"
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I hope he's able to resurrect his career in Duval.

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To the football world, and everyone who loves this game:

I f***ed up. I’m not here to sugarcoat anything. In 2021, I made the worst mistake of my life by gambling on football.

I paid the price, believe me. I’ve seen all the jokes. I’ve seen all the hate. And I can shoulder all of that, no problem. All I want is for people to understand that, when I made those bets, there was a hell of a lot more going on with me.

This is hard for a dude like me to talk about, but I want to be real with everybody. Back then, I was depressed. I was battling anxiety. I didn’t even want to leave my house. Football was the only thing that ever gave my life meaning, and I couldn’t even find any joy in that at the time. Honestly, I couldn’t even get up off the chair in my living room. Everything was just … dark.

It started with my body breaking down. Hardly anybody knows this, but I played most of the 2020 season with a broken foot. Remember that 1,300-yard season? Nine touchdowns? I was killing it on one foot, for real. Actually, I had played through bone spurs my first two years. Just gritted through it with painkillers. But then, my third year, the wheels came off. Week 8, we were playing Carolina and I remember looking at Julio and I just knew. I said, “Nah, bro, this is different. My shit broke.”

When I got the MRI, though, the trainer told me it was just a bone bruise. So I kept it pushing. I took Toradol shots every Sunday, and I finished the season. Listen, I know the deal. I’m a football player. It was my decision. I know what we get paid for, you feel me? If it’s really just a bruise, I’m gonna be out there.

We finished 4–12, and then the whole staff got fired. Coach, GM, head trainer, everybody. When the new trainer finally came in, he sent me to a specialist in Green Bay. Within the first hour, the doctor said, “Your foot is definitely broken.”


I was devastated. It was only two months before the start of the season, and now you’re telling me it’s broken? You gotta remember — I was the No. 1 guy now with Julio gone. I was under so much pressure to be out there. I got the surgery and rushed back, but I showed up to camp just mentally drained. I still couldn’t plant without painkillers. So you get trapped in this cycle where it’s like, “If you take this pill, you can run.”

After practice, once that painkiller wears off, you still have to come home and be a husband and a father. My daughter don’t care. She’s two years old, and she’s running straight up to me, “Dadddyyyyyy!!!” She’s wanting to bake some cookies in the Fisher-Price oven, you know? But I’m coming home broken. I can’t even do anything but lie around in a dark room.

That’s when the anxiety really started. I knew something was off, but I didn’t want to let anybody down. My plan was to get through another season with pills and shots. Do my job. Grit it out. I suited up Week 1 a shell of myself, but I played.


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After the game, I drove home with my wife and daughter, and I saw the whole neighborhood lined up right outside our house. Our front door was kicked in. Police cars everywhere. Our house had been robbed while we were at the game. At first, me and my wife were pretty calm about everything. They took a bunch of jewelry and stuff, but nothing we couldn’t replace. But then we watched the security footage, and we saw about five or six guys come in with guns drawn. If you have a child, that’s your worst nightmare. My wife was traumatized. She couldn’t sleep at night. She couldn’t stand me being out of the house.

That’s when I really just started to feel the weight of the world on my chest. I didn’t have the words for what I was experiencing yet. It felt like I was getting attacked — but almost by something invisible. It’s like I’m getting hit in my chest, 24/7, by somebody I can’t see.

I would come into the facility and I just wasn’t myself. I mean, for three years, all those guys in that locker room know how I’m coming. I’m walking in there to compete like hell. I’m trying to take people’s souls, every day. Ask Julio. Ask anybody. But all I wanted was to be at home with my wife and daughter. We were supposed to go play in London, and I just couldn’t leave them. That’s when I finally broke down and told the team that I needed help.

And this is where it gets tricky for me, because I don’t want to badmouth anybody from the franchise. I know they got a lot of pressure to win, and they got their own job to do. But I just felt like some people in the building were supportive, and other people were looking at me like, “You good, bro.”

Since I was eight years old, I was on my own.

- Calvin Ridley
But I wasn't good. It’s as simple as that. I’m as mentally strong as they come, believe me. But I really just needed a break. So I stepped away from the team.

I started talking to a therapist almost immediately. I told him how I was feeling, and we went pretty deep. I told him some things that I can’t even talk to my own family about, because it’s just too much. I mean, y’all don’t even know what I’ve been through to get here. That’s the hardest part about this last year, honestly. People have questioned my toughness and my character. But I don't think most of those people could’ve lived the life I lived and even made it off the porch, let alone made it to the NFL.

Since I was eight years old, I was on my own. It’s crazy but I know the exact date: October 31, 2002. We were having our little Halloween party at school. Out of the blue, my aunt came and picked me and my three younger brothers up. The next thing I know, she’s dropping us off at some random place with a bunch of strangers. It was a foster home for kids in distress. But I didn’t know where I was or what was going on. No one would tell me anything. It was just, “Your mom and dad went away for a while. You need to stay here.”

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When it comes to my family, there’s things I can't talk about, you feel me? But let’s say my mom and dad lived that fast life. Some of my earliest memories are of people kicking our door down, running in with dogs. But I can’t blame my parents, really. I mean, we were poor poor. We lived off food stamps. I don’t know why I even remember this, but our rent was $26. When you’re in that situation, the fast money is enticing.

Eventually, it caught up to them. My dad got deported back to Guyana and my mom went away for a bit, so that’s when they took us to the foster home. I’ll never forget my youngest brother just screaming his head off, crying for our mom. He was only five years old, and he just would not calm down, no matter what. We kept telling him, “Chill! Chill!” But he was panicking, and they took him away somewhere else. We didn’t see him again for six months.

I was the oldest, so I had to be the man at a very young age. My brothers would be looking at me like, “What's going on? What’s about to happen? Are we gonna be alright?” Honestly I didn’t know. But I’d say, “We’ll be alright. It’ll get easier. Don’t worry about nothing.”

I’m as mentally strong as they come, believe me. But I really just needed a break.

- Calvin Ridley
I learned to put my armor on, you know?

That’s when football really saved my life. Eventually, they moved us to the SOS Children’s Village in Coconut Creek, Florida — it’s like a little complex with 10 houses, maybe 150 apartments. And I used to wake up in the morning, seven o’clock, and bang on all the doors, rounding up everybody. “Come on, we playing footbaaaaalllllllll! You coming???”

We’d be playing pickup — 15-on-15, 30-on-30 — from like seven in the morning til six at night. Maybe that's how I got so fast, because if you wanted the ball in all that chaos, you had to run your ass off. I remember these guys used to come around in these big vans, and I guess they were from a charity or something. They’d pull up on a Saturday and yell, “Who wants to play football?” And everybody would pile in there and they’d take us to the nice fields and give us real equipment. Those were the best days, because you could forget about everything. I wasn’t even thinking about the NFL or college or anything at that point. It was just happiness.

If I got a football, I’m straight.

After about six years, my mom came home and she got her life together, and I want to say that I really love my mom. But we were on our own for a long while, and I had to go through some wild experiences at a young age. I know how it feels to sleep in a homeless shelter. I know how it feels to be hungry. All I dreamed about in those times was a normal life.


I remember when I got to high school and I really started blowing up my junior year, and getting all these letters, I would always be thinking about a 50K job. I was like, “Alright, if I get a college degree, I’m gonna make at least 50 thou, no matter what.” It was 50 thou or die trying.

Football gave me everything. My first plane ride in my life was to Tuscaloosa on a recruiting trip for Alabama. My first big Christmas was during my freshman year. I remember getting that stipend money and coming home for Christmas break and handing one of my little brothers $1,000 cash and it was like he won the lottery. Forget about making M’s. Just that one band was mega to us.

And then to make it to the NFL … that was just life-changing for my people and for my neighborhood, for real. That’s why I want people to know my whole story, and know that I never meant to tarnish this game.

I just f***ed up. Period. In a dark moment, I made a stupid mistake. I wasn’t trying to cheat the game. That’s the thing I want to make clear. At the time, I had been completely away from the team for about a month. I was still just so depressed and angry, and the days were so long. I was looking for anything to take my mind off of things and make the day go by faster. One day, I saw a TV commercial for a betting app, and for whatever reason, I downloaded it on my phone. I deposited like $1,500 total, literally just for something to do. I was going to bet like $200 on some NBA games that night, but then I just added a bunch more games to a parlay. I put the Falcons in on it. I was just doing it to root on my boys, basically. I didn’t have any inside information. I wasn’t even talking to anybody on the team at the time. I was totally off the grid.

Whenever people ask, “What were you thinking?” The only answer I can give is, “I wasn’t.”

When you’re depressed, you’re not thinking about anything in the future. You’re just trying to get through the day.

When the NFL investigators called me in, that was probably the worst day of my life. Seeing my mom googling my name … and everything people were saying about her son…. That broke me down, man. But honestly, maybe I had to go through all of it. Maybe I had to hit rock bottom so I could get healthy. Thank God, with the help of my therapist, I was able to understand what was happening to me. I learned the names for the things that I was feeling — stress, depression, anxiety — and how to cope with those emotions.

Right now, I feel stronger than I’ve ever felt — mentally and physically. On the field, I’m flying. Believe me, I’m flying. That GPS band don't lie. On my daughter’s name, if I’m healthy? With Trevor Lawrence? I’m giving Jacksonville 1,400 yards a season, period.

I want to thank the Jaguars for showing faith in me, and understanding me as a human being who made a mistake. It feels so good to be back home in Florida, where this dream started, with a clean slate. But also I want to make it clear that I don’t have a bad word to say about the Falcons or the city of Atlanta. That’s still my second home, and where my daughter was born. I tried to give y’all everything I had, until the wheels came off. It’s all love, forever.


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Football saved my life. It’s still my purpose. I still love it, maybe now more than ever.

You know ... I can still remember when we first got put in foster care, just lying in bed at night, scared as hell, not knowing what the future was going to bring. All I knew was that tomorrow … rain or shine … I could play some football.

I know I have a debt to pay back to the game. But when y’all talk about the name Calvin Ridley in 10, 20, 30 years ... I’m gonna make sure it rings out for the right reasons.

Sincerely,

Calvin

  

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68. "its still funny to me that they took such a hardline when on every sport..."
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channel and broadcast every other ad is draftkings or some bs, ESPN has entire shows devoted to gambling, they probably tried to make an example out of him I seriously doubt he's the only pro athlete or coach doing that shit online its too easy. You don't have to put a call in to Vegas or AC just pull it up on your phone. I remember they used to say there will never be a pro team in Vegas and now there's at least 2 with more on the way lol

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69. "man, real shit. teared up a bit reading that."
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you never know. i remember clowning him like what a dummy, and then kept scrolling my timeline. Whole time this man was going through it.

Another reminder, empathy should be first, not this slander era we are stuck in. I'm here in Atlanta and had no idea, just getting text messages and memes of him.

Salute that man.

  

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73. "RE: man, real shit. teared up a bit reading that."
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>you never know. i remember clowning him like what a dummy,
>and then kept scrolling my timeline. Whole time this man was
>going through it.
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>Another reminder, empathy should be first, not this slander
>era we are stuck in. I'm here in Atlanta and had no idea, just
>getting text messages and memes of him.
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>Salute that man.

Yep. Sometimes, it is really easy to 'get mad at' these cats when things go sideways. I know I do sometimes. I almost can't help myself when it seems like dudes are just out of shape physically (and not due to some nagging injury).

This one right here..I'm very interested in things going really well for him. I hope he's healthy. I hope he's good mentally more often than not. And I hope he goes the hell off for the Jags.

It is wild how many players have these 'football is my escape' stories. Some other time for that though. Go Ridley and all of that shit!

  

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70. "breh, he talkin that SHIT, right now..."
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this line here:
"When you’re depressed, you’re not thinking about anything in the future. You’re just trying to get through the day."

It's like you're fighting for every minute that elapses. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

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71. "Amazing read "
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We all have our own personal stories with this and it’s great that athletes have a place to share theirs too

Also he’s going to balllll out with TLaw imo. That offense with Evan engram (2.0 version), etienne, etc should be a good one

  

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72. "for all the oblivious "statements" put out after pros fuck up"
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this isnt one of them

if he feels like he owes the game, i hope he gets enough success to feel like he paid it back in full

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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