Coby, Coby, Coby. I never thought I would be chanting such a name
in my life.

Kid nearly amassed a triple double the other night, even
though he didn’t shoot well.

AD is back to try and save the pathetic lakers...They don’t deserve
you AD

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though the circumstances have thrust him into a more active role, before then, he could play without the pressure of needing to make something happen. Probably the 2nd biggest beneficiary of the changes next to Zach.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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I think Caruso getting injured then catching COVID was the best thing
for both him and Ayo. They got a ton of minutes and played well.
Not sure they play as much if both Ball and Caruso don't miss so much time.

And now, with Caruso out again, if the front office was thinking of trading him,
they shouldn't now. We're using every bit of guard depth we have right now.

I'm glad he's playing well. He's much improved over last year.
And it's not just his scoring. He's driving and finding guys much better, and it's helping.
Honestly I think the influence of DeRozan's playmaking ability is
rubbing off on the entire team, especially Ayo and White.

https://digife.com

Someone told me that wasn't allowed on this thread. Can't remember who tho.

ANYWAY...AD is back. Let's see if there's any hope to be gleaned from the last 30 or so games (there isn't, but whatever...pressure's off now. Let's have some fun).

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before we lose him for another five games.

Not to say he'll stay healthy - but I'd rather him have January off than April.

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Honestly - just free up a roster spot.

He's cooked. Sign Stanley for the year, cut Trevor and DJ and hope for some buyout guys.

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>Honestly - just free up a roster spot.
>
>He's cooked. Sign Stanley for the year, cut Trevor and DJ and
>hope for some buyout guys.

Ariza has played well and is still getting his legs

Stanley Johnson has had his moments but there are reasons he was in the g-league after being a lottery pick…

https://sports.yahoo.com/raptors-stanley-johnson-masai-ujiri-said-he-was-bad-at-basketball-235503869.html

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Stanley clearly humbled himself.

Ariza is cooked. Let go of the nostalgia.

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>Stanley clearly humbled himself.
>
>Ariza is cooked. Let go of the nostalgia.

he's not there to score, he's there to be a 3&D wing which we're short of and are must haves in the league, at this point in his career he'll be more relied on in the playoffs than the regular season

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need versatile defenders like him to help defend wing players so Lebron doesn't have to and Carmelo can't. Pelinka didn't think about wing defenders when he put together this roster and Vogel doesn't want to play our centers for whatever reason so in some lineups he has ended up at the 5.

I know in this fantasy/fanduel world defense isn't as sexy but its important.

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He’s also far from a 3 and D guy.

He’s done.

Do we need wings? Yes. Is he the one? No.

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Harden and scrubs

vs

Lebron AD Melo and scrubs

yea good luck




>Coby, Coby, Coby. I never thought I would be chanting such a
>name
>in my life.
>
>Kid nearly amassed a triple double the other night, even
>though he didn’t shoot well.
>
>AD is back to try and save the pathetic lakers...They don’t
>deserve
>you AD

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Good for him betting on himself.

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Truly hope this man stays healthy enough to break Kareem's record. He deserves it.

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just filthy. Had a couple LeFuckYou 3s in there tonight.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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Yeeesh.

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Fuck a sig, my presence is enough.

Just had to sit and wait.

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And I LOVE Kuz. But if he’s your 2nd best player…it’s gonna be a bad time.

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He is doing 16/10 numbers almost every night.


The Wizard’s main problem is they have too many good/ offensive players,
and the coach is too busy focused on making sure that everyone
gets minutes.

The players on their bench would be starters on other teams

Bertans, Avdija, Kispert, Harrell, Bryant Hachimura.....

So moving all those pieces in and out of the lineup during a game
creates chemistry issues. They is why they always have highs and lows
throughout each game.

Every night you see them put up around 115-130 a game, because
of the many offensive weapons on the team....But when it comes to situational
basketball and closing out games, they suck at it because the coach doesn’t know
which lineup to go with. Gafford starts but doesn’t close out games, because he will
go with Harrell and Bryant down the stretch...knowing damn well neither one of them
can play defense. They are offensive guys only.

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He’s not even a Top 25 player in the East, let alone an All-Star.

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for the Wiz this year it’s ridiculous, and has played all but 2 games for the Wiz.
He is possibly their best player and is definitely their most consistent player.

For a stretch of nine games he avg 25/11 while shooting 54 percent
from the field. He’s scored 25-plus points five times and recorded six double-doubles.

Kuzma has started all 40 games in which he’s appeared this season, already eight more starts than he made in Los Angeles last season. His career-high 33.4 minutes per game are nearly five more than the 28.7 he averaged last season. His 21.6 usage rate this season – and 27.3 usage rate in his last nine games – ranks second on the team, trailing only Bradley Beal.

He ranks sixth in the NBA in total clutch minutes (88), which the league defines as any time the game is within five points with five-or-fewer minutes remaining. Among players that have played at least 50 clutch minutes this season, Kuzma ranks first in plus-minus (+59), first in 3-pointers made (14), seventh in points (65) and second in rebounds (26).


Argument can be made that he is the best clutch player in the league across
the board.....again he is a freaking + 59 with the game on the line. He is the
main reason they won the games that they have won this season.

But you knew that already, right? Lol

I swear you just like to type to type, and how is that Lakers top 3
working out for you? You saying that he isn’t even a top 25 player in the east
proves you know nothing....You seriously type that.

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You’ll be a .500 team at absolute best.

He is not an all star. He’s a great complimentary piece but he is not the guy.

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he is the possibly the best clutch player in the league, and you’re still in denial.

He is not the reason why they lose games, but he is the reason why they
win games.

More than likely Andrew Wiggins will make his first all star team this year. Kuzma
has similar numbers. Wiggins is the better 3pt shooter during regulation, but Kuzma’s
shooting is superior in the final moments of the game.

Wiggins:

Per: 15.8
Points: 18
Rebounds: 4
Fg: 48 pct
3pt: 40 pct

Kuzma:

Per: 18.4
Points: 16
Rebounds: 9
Fg: 45 pct
3pt: 32 pct

And again Kuzma has the best clutch stats across the board in the NBA,
so his game increases when the game is on the line. He is the main reason
why the Wizards are in PO contention....and Beal has missed games due to injuries
and Covid protocols.

But that’s not all star level?

Okay, pal. This must be some type of hate by lakers fan...because the numbers
say that you’re wrong. The lakers have 4 top 75 players and still have a similar
record to the wiz. Kuzma and the Wiz are overachieving and the Lakers are under
achieving based on lineup comparisons.

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Nobody is given an All Star spot because of "clutch stats" so...stop. Wiggins MIGHT get an All Star bid which is attributed much more so to a) team success and b) narrative (which matters - should it? No, but it does.)

Again - I love Kuzma. He's one of the more malleable talents in the league. He can be a first option and put up numbers on a bad team, or he can drill down and be a great complimentary piece on a good one. He took a back seat on the Lakers to accept a bench role where he became a really nice defensive player who could score if needed.

But that doesn't make for an all star. There are more deserving players in the East than Kuz. I'd be shocked if he makes it. The dude's career has been really nice and I'm happy to see him thrive. You calling me a hater because I'm a Laker fan is really weird, especially when you're using the Lakers record to justify Kuzma's phantom all star bid.

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They are superior when it matters, and not stat padding. Your
perception in basketball is way off.

Add his clutch performance with his complete game performance and Kuz
is an allStar and top 25 player in the east.

Watch some Wizards game and every night Kuz is the main player
putting in work, and he is their most available player.

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We'll see if everyone agrees with the guy who knows nothing or if everyone agrees with you.

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Yes, because okayplayer is definitely a credible institution when it comes
to determining/listing allStar players.

I have no beef with you, Frankie.

You’re simply incorrect about Kuz

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The poll itself, I get. The poll itself lends itself to wisdom of the crowd, which is a valid, particularly as a means of collecting data for a best educated guess on something.

Ask 20 people how many coins are in a jar, and there's a good chance that the average guess winds up close to the real number.

But whether or not the crowd agrees or disagrees, particularly on something as subjective as this (despite obvious objective metrics we can use to arrive at a conclusion, the parameters of this- top 25 in the east- is gray enough that it's still a subjective proposition) is immaterial to whether or not a proposition is correct, or even has merit theoretically.

But you know all this- which makes it worse, IMO.

So running to a poll to settle a discussion point is a little weak IMO. the poll itself presents a good discussion point, but that doesn't win the argument, even you get 100% "no" to the poll.

This is a friendly critique, FYI, because I think you're better than that.

I really just did it (a) to see if anyone thought it was worth arguing/discussing, and (b) to see if there really was any sort of popular consensus. Sometimes I'm the one that's out of touch.

Although, yes, I couldn't help but throw the "know nothing" insult he tossed at me back into my reply. If it's a little beneath me to respond to his insults with a suggestion that perhaps he shouldn't be lobbing those insults at me when everyone might agree with my take on this, then fair enough, I reckon. Lord knows there are certain forms of bait and certain takes rooted in factually inaccurate statistics that just shouldn't be responded to, and I'm not always the best at just letting perceived insanity exist without rebuttal.

But yes, I realize that poll results don't make something true, lol. Besides, as you noted, there's no way for there to be a "real answer" on this anyway. There was no way I was going to convince him that he's wrong, and there certainly wasn't anything he was saying that was convincing me I was wrong. But I did think a poll would inspire a few "obviously" or "obviously not" replies from people worth listening to, which would at least help me take the temperature of whether I was completely off-base in my thinking-- or if it was closer to true than I was considering-- and maybe would inspire similar thoughts from the other party in this debate, although I realize that's incredibly wishful thinking.

More than anything else, I'm just depressed a poll like that got so little action. Feels like in 2014, that shit would've had a lot more back-and-forth. Sigh, the slow heat death of OKP is depressing to witness sometimes, lol.

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I think it's beneath you to say, "let's go to the polls and see what they say", though I think the poll itself was worthwhile.

FTR, he's the coach I wanted for the sixers
He got us too last week
Up 24 in the 3rd
He went small, with Batum on Embiid
Glenn made no adjustments
...and they got us...

Incredible job w/o the LAC's 2 best players.

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>FTR, he's the coach I wanted for the sixers
>He got us too last week
>Up 24 in the 3rd
>He went small, with Batum on Embiid
>Glenn made no adjustments
>...and they got us...
>
>Incredible job w/o the LAC's 2 best players.

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In the post game presser
A reporter asked what responsibility was the HC's for blowing the lead
He did the Tomlin...you wouldn't ask Pop that question
Greg Popovich he is not
This team blows big leads
He has a history as HC of blowing leads
See game 7 vs ATL
Blowing 3-1 leads
and IRT this game, he shortened the bench up 24 in the 3rd

It's interesting watching EMVPiid's maturation into a leader
Down to the Pelle's at half time
he raised his hand and told his team
That's on me, I gotta do a better job on D

Glenn deflects accountability while preaching it
He's fortunate Little Ben casts a big shadow
He was #2 on the hit list for last year's 2nd round exit.

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Brooklyn would be such a flaming bullshit team fully assembled. But Dr. K decides he's going to play part time, and the unfortunate injuries including to Durant got them looking thin.

but they have some nice players down the rotation. Edwards is a bit of a surprise. And there's LA in the back pocket.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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He's just one of those guys every team would want. It's hacky to say, and they're vastly different players...but he's like Caruso in that way.

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the visual of LeBron trying to explain to him all the stuff he saw on the court was hilarious.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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https://youtu.be/MBRnUKz3bus


>Coby, Coby, Coby. I never thought I would be chanting such a
>name
>in my life.
>
>Kid nearly amassed a triple double the other night, even
>though he didn’t shoot well.
>
>AD is back to try and save the pathetic lakers...They don’t
>deserve
>you AD

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i know he wants to wait til free agency and make whatever move then...but itd be dope if he forced a trade from nj to philly for simmons this year and we got to see him next to embiid for a championship push.

you ever see someone and think "how does that guy have any friends?" and then you meet his friends and you're like "oh this makes perfect sense"

I sorta knew that he was a pussy from burner accounts to letting draymond disrespect him and run him out of town

Harden just wants to wear his little purses and hoop, without all of the burden like in Houston. Philly would be perfect

(when motivated, he works hard as hell. I hardly ever remember him missing games in a rockets jersey)

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He was guarding luka and getting his shots up on the other end.

It wasn’t over the entire course of the game or anything. But still super encouraging to see his progress.

1. (as I've stated on here before) Caruso is a coach on the floor.
That game against the Cavs was the first time this year we'd looked that good since November and December.

2. The Bulls are going to struggle against the elite and mid-tier teams until both Caruso and Ball return.
Our defense is perimeter based, so with those guys out
the Bulls are just gonna have to hope we can outscore teams.

3. Fully healthy I think this team can reach the Finals.

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And we are better defensively with Ball and Caruso on the floor. However,
Green provides a defensive impact inside, which will allow us to still compete
at a top level against the best teams in the NBA. We will be able to maintain
our top 5 East status.

Also, due to our defense being perimeter based, we are vulnerable against
teams with dominant big men. So even when fully healthy, we still lack NBA finals
potential. We are just too weak inside to be able to get to the NBA finals. I can
see us making it to the second round, and a slim chance of getting to the conference
finals.

One thing I realized against Orlando with Ball and Caruso out is, we are very poor
with dealing with ball pressure. Ayo was our best ball handling guard on the floor,
and even he had issues dealing with Orlando’s defensive pressure. Lavine and
White have already proven to be bad in those situations when they were the
main ball handlers in previous years, because neither are pure PGs. They are
scorers. They can handle the ball in normal situations and run the offense,
and they can get assists. But when it comes to effectively getting out of traps and full
court pressure, they are extremely shaky.

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and that they will not fall apart. I never uttered anything about the finals.

Surely, you don’t need everything explained to you.

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I said the defense would fall off a cliff without their best 2 defenders. That's not exactly a radical thought.

But then you told me to worry about my team, which was very funny coming from you.

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We have other players like Green, Cook and Mckennie who
will contribute on defense....so we will not completely fall
off a cliff.

You’re the same guy who said Rondo was completely washed,
and then he helped the lakers to win a chip and is now helping the
Cavs.

Your takes need some work.

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And you lost to the Magic by 19.

Are you *STILL* seriously not addressing telling me to worry about my own team?

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You gifting me Ws, dog.

Between this and Kuz.

You’re a frustrated lakers fan.

I love it.

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And again…when Kuz was on the Lakers he was trash, right?

*im* the frustrated fan…but when one of YOUR guys got injured it was “worry about your own team”. A thing you said that you can’t stand by, because obviously, but also you refuse to say “lol yeah that was dumb”.

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I've already taken the L on Rondo. He was absolutely instrumental in the 2020 title. He's useful in spurts and better served on the Cavs (he wasn't gonna help the Lakers this year).

He's not the guy he once was, but he's not totally useless.

Now...when are you gonna own up to being wrong...ever?

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Jones, Jr. will be out 6-8 weeks due to fracturing his finger in
training..

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